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@Brooklyncapper

 I took a cheap shot comment at you with the dog and mom comment and it was at 3am so dont take it the wrong way.  I used you as an example because you are from the city, and us NYers bear the brunt of political chaos on the daily peace_5

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 I took a cheap shot comment at you with the dog and mom comment and it was at 3am so dont take it the wrong way.  I used you as an example because you are from the city, and us NYers bear the brunt of political chaos on the daily peace_5

 
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and it was for Amazon hq not a trucking warehouse like people think with highway problems with tractor trailers or semi’s… big rigs etc.  Its no different than what steve money bags wants to do with the chop shop villages surrounding citi field.  There was nothing but up and she wanted her face to be the talk of killing that plan

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and it was for Amazon hq not a trucking warehouse like people think with highway problems with tractor trailers or semi’s… big rigs etc.  Its no different than what steve money bags wants to do with the chop shop villages surrounding citi field.  There was nothing but up and she wanted her face to be the talk of killing that plan

 
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Quote Originally Posted by soup-can@Raiders22  she completely messed that Amazon hq up.  I get what you say about the jobs, but when states like NY give these ten year tax credits to the corps it is way more than jobs.  Those people need to sleep so apartments or house sales jump.  More money in the local economy which in the city means mom and pop bodegas get their own in an area of decline.  Like when someone opens a food truck in a food desert town.  There is only an upside, it also draws in other smaller companys to the general area which boosts everywhere around it, the job pool of expendable people that amazon likes to exploit is endless around NYC.  And lets just say in 10years when the tax credits expire, those communities are thriving at that point and the incentives to stay go way up.  On that point she Fu-d up[/Quote:

I am not so sure.  I am not here to defend her at all. 

But she got some obvious 'I told you so' when they had to put a pause on the HQ in VA.  Then they followed that up with an announcement of their huge layoffs.

But she was not the only one that did not want it -- she was simply the loudest and most well-known.

Whether you agree with her or the think tank's position of it 'subsidizing' Amazon because of the $3Billion in tax cuts or not -- there would certainly have been some hidden costs, etc.

You may be correct that longterm and overall it would be good.

But, if you are one of the very many that did not get a job there -- are you really wanting the costs in the area of everything, including housing, to go up that much?  I understand that bringing jobs to the community is good.  

But a rising tide lifting all boats is fine -- if you are in a boat.  Otherwise, where is your benefit?

Amazon should have done a much better job of getting across the many ways they would help ALL citizens and the area -- not just the ones they hired.

When they decided to go elsewhere, it was a bad look for them.  It was also a bad look for the others that were for it on the council, etc. that could not convince the ones that were against it of what a benefit to ALL it would have been.

At any rate, I think it is too big a knock on her.  There are many other things she truly can be knocked for.  Certainly, not getting enough done in her precinct is one of them.

In retrospect, maybe she has considered if she had run with the Amazon idea -- then she could have taken credit for it.  Maybe next time it will be different.

But when the folks there keep overwhelmingly re-electing her -- it can be said they deserve what they vote for.

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Quote Originally Posted by soup-can@Raiders22  she completely messed that Amazon hq up.  I get what you say about the jobs, but when states like NY give these ten year tax credits to the corps it is way more than jobs.  Those people need to sleep so apartments or house sales jump.  More money in the local economy which in the city means mom and pop bodegas get their own in an area of decline.  Like when someone opens a food truck in a food desert town.  There is only an upside, it also draws in other smaller companys to the general area which boosts everywhere around it, the job pool of expendable people that amazon likes to exploit is endless around NYC.  And lets just say in 10years when the tax credits expire, those communities are thriving at that point and the incentives to stay go way up.  On that point she Fu-d up[/Quote:

I am not so sure.  I am not here to defend her at all. 

But she got some obvious 'I told you so' when they had to put a pause on the HQ in VA.  Then they followed that up with an announcement of their huge layoffs.

But she was not the only one that did not want it -- she was simply the loudest and most well-known.

Whether you agree with her or the think tank's position of it 'subsidizing' Amazon because of the $3Billion in tax cuts or not -- there would certainly have been some hidden costs, etc.

You may be correct that longterm and overall it would be good.

But, if you are one of the very many that did not get a job there -- are you really wanting the costs in the area of everything, including housing, to go up that much?  I understand that bringing jobs to the community is good.  

But a rising tide lifting all boats is fine -- if you are in a boat.  Otherwise, where is your benefit?

Amazon should have done a much better job of getting across the many ways they would help ALL citizens and the area -- not just the ones they hired.

When they decided to go elsewhere, it was a bad look for them.  It was also a bad look for the others that were for it on the council, etc. that could not convince the ones that were against it of what a benefit to ALL it would have been.

At any rate, I think it is too big a knock on her.  There are many other things she truly can be knocked for.  Certainly, not getting enough done in her precinct is one of them.

In retrospect, maybe she has considered if she had run with the Amazon idea -- then she could have taken credit for it.  Maybe next time it will be different.

But when the folks there keep overwhelmingly re-electing her -- it can be said they deserve what they vote for.

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No idea why it posted like that.

 

I am not so sure.  I am not here to defend her at all. 

But she got some obvious 'I told you so' when they had to put a pause on the HQ in VA.  Then they followed that up with an announcement of their huge layoffs.

But she was not the only one that did not want it -- she was simply the loudest and most well-known.

Whether you agree with her or the think tank's position of it 'subsidizing' Amazon because of the $3Billion in tax cuts or not -- there would certainly have been some hidden costs, etc.

You may be correct that longterm and overall it would be good.

But, if you are one of the very many that did not get a job there -- are you really wanting the costs in the area of everything, including housing, to go up that much?  I understand that bringing jobs to the community is good.  

But a rising tide lifting all boats is fine -- if you are in a boat.  Otherwise, where is your benefit?

Amazon should have done a much better job of getting across the many ways they would help ALL citizens and the area -- not just the ones they hired.

When they decided to go elsewhere, it was a bad look for them.  It was also a bad look for the others that were for it on the council, etc. that could not convince the ones that were against it of what a benefit to ALL it would have been.

At any rate, I think it is too big a knock on her.  There are many other things she truly can be knocked for.  Certainly, not getting enough done in her precinct is one of them.

In retrospect, maybe she has considered if she had run with the Amazon idea -- then she could have taken credit for it.  Maybe next time it will be different.

But when the folks there keep overwhelmingly re-electing her -- it can be said they deserve what they vote for.

peace_5

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No idea why it posted like that.

 

I am not so sure.  I am not here to defend her at all. 

But she got some obvious 'I told you so' when they had to put a pause on the HQ in VA.  Then they followed that up with an announcement of their huge layoffs.

But she was not the only one that did not want it -- she was simply the loudest and most well-known.

Whether you agree with her or the think tank's position of it 'subsidizing' Amazon because of the $3Billion in tax cuts or not -- there would certainly have been some hidden costs, etc.

You may be correct that longterm and overall it would be good.

But, if you are one of the very many that did not get a job there -- are you really wanting the costs in the area of everything, including housing, to go up that much?  I understand that bringing jobs to the community is good.  

But a rising tide lifting all boats is fine -- if you are in a boat.  Otherwise, where is your benefit?

Amazon should have done a much better job of getting across the many ways they would help ALL citizens and the area -- not just the ones they hired.

When they decided to go elsewhere, it was a bad look for them.  It was also a bad look for the others that were for it on the council, etc. that could not convince the ones that were against it of what a benefit to ALL it would have been.

At any rate, I think it is too big a knock on her.  There are many other things she truly can be knocked for.  Certainly, not getting enough done in her precinct is one of them.

In retrospect, maybe she has considered if she had run with the Amazon idea -- then she could have taken credit for it.  Maybe next time it will be different.

But when the folks there keep overwhelmingly re-electing her -- it can be said they deserve what they vote for.

peace_5

 
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"I have spoken to the president over the weekend. I have spoken with him extensively. He made clear then, and he has made clear since, that he is in this race." "The matter is closed. He had reiterated that this morning. He has reiterated that to the public. Joe Biden is our nominee. He is not leaving this race. He is in this race and I support him."

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"I have spoken to the president over the weekend. I have spoken with him extensively. He made clear then, and he has made clear since, that he is in this race." "The matter is closed. He had reiterated that this morning. He has reiterated that to the public. Joe Biden is our nominee. He is not leaving this race. He is in this race and I support him."

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Thinking back that HQ2 was to end up in Long Island City, and I don't know if you read the NY Post the other day or if you happen to keep up with the migrant crisis in NYC but Long Island City right now is like a third world country down around all the migrant shelters.  Queens has the most shelters of all the boroughs and its now reported from residents that they line the streets giving haircuts and tattoos during the day, but at night it's like fight club in the streets.  Latin Americans on one side and African countries on the other, just like in the beginning of Coming to America when Eddie pulls up in Queens in the winter with burn barrels cooking food and fires in the streets

In hindsight if HQ2 did end up there, those shelters probably would've been placed in other areas 

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Thinking back that HQ2 was to end up in Long Island City, and I don't know if you read the NY Post the other day or if you happen to keep up with the migrant crisis in NYC but Long Island City right now is like a third world country down around all the migrant shelters.  Queens has the most shelters of all the boroughs and its now reported from residents that they line the streets giving haircuts and tattoos during the day, but at night it's like fight club in the streets.  Latin Americans on one side and African countries on the other, just like in the beginning of Coming to America when Eddie pulls up in Queens in the winter with burn barrels cooking food and fires in the streets

In hindsight if HQ2 did end up there, those shelters probably would've been placed in other areas 

 
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Lefty New York City Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed Monday that Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, is stupid during a fiery screed that drew mockery from her critics.

“This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met or seen or witnessed,” Ocasio-Cortez, 35, said during an Instagram Live video session.

 

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Lefty New York City Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed Monday that Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, is stupid during a fiery screed that drew mockery from her critics.

“This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met or seen or witnessed,” Ocasio-Cortez, 35, said during an Instagram Live video session.

 

 You can't make this up. an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

 
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 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., warned people who voted based on grocery prices to just "wait until the farms are empty" after mass deportations.

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 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., warned people who voted based on grocery prices to just "wait until the farms are empty" after mass deportations.

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 She is either misinformed or just trying to stir things up.  Very few illegals work in agriculture or farming.  There are migrant programs for that.  Besides, so what?  Even if it were true, all this would prove is that the Left only care about making illegals pseudo-slaves for cheap labor and goods.

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To begin with the biggest big picture: It is a myth that American agriculture is dominated by illegal-immigrant labor, and that enforcing U.S. labor laws would either shut down farms around the country, as the most hysterical critics claim, or result in wildly higher food prices. The evidence does not support this position or anything close to that position.

Most illegals do not work in agriculture — only about 4 percent of the illegal-immigrant population is employed in farming. In no state is farming the predominant occupation of illegal immigrants; even in places such as California, where labor-intensive fruit-and-vegetable farming attracts a relatively large illegal workforce, the main occupations of illegals are in hospitality (restaurants and hotels), services, and transportation.

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 She is either misinformed or just trying to stir things up.  Very few illegals work in agriculture or farming.  There are migrant programs for that.  Besides, so what?  Even if it were true, all this would prove is that the Left only care about making illegals pseudo-slaves for cheap labor and goods.

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For example:

To begin with the biggest big picture: It is a myth that American agriculture is dominated by illegal-immigrant labor, and that enforcing U.S. labor laws would either shut down farms around the country, as the most hysterical critics claim, or result in wildly higher food prices. The evidence does not support this position or anything close to that position.

Most illegals do not work in agriculture — only about 4 percent of the illegal-immigrant population is employed in farming. In no state is farming the predominant occupation of illegal immigrants; even in places such as California, where labor-intensive fruit-and-vegetable farming attracts a relatively large illegal workforce, the main occupations of illegals are in hospitality (restaurants and hotels), services, and transportation.

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The family farm of Devin Nunes has been accused of using illegals on their dairy farms for years. Where there's smoke there's fire.

From the Center For Migration Studies in their report dated 8/30/22, the agricultural sector relies on foreign workers 86% of the time & 45% are undocumented. I don't think much as changed in basically 3 years.

As far as AOC she has a huge following & she says quiet subjects out loud. She's still a rookie in politics & will become more seasoned as time progresses. She has a way of making a connection with common folk which every politician strives for. She's one of the poorest members of Congress & hasn't been bought yet which I find refreshing.  

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The family farm of Devin Nunes has been accused of using illegals on their dairy farms for years. Where there's smoke there's fire.

From the Center For Migration Studies in their report dated 8/30/22, the agricultural sector relies on foreign workers 86% of the time & 45% are undocumented. I don't think much as changed in basically 3 years.

As far as AOC she has a huge following & she says quiet subjects out loud. She's still a rookie in politics & will become more seasoned as time progresses. She has a way of making a connection with common folk which every politician strives for. She's one of the poorest members of Congress & hasn't been bought yet which I find refreshing.  

 
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 I see where you got the 4% figure totalling 283k undocumented agricultural workers.

4% sounds small but 283,000 doesn't sound small to me at all.

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 I see where you got the 4% figure totalling 283k undocumented agricultural workers.

4% sounds small but 283,000 doesn't sound small to me at all.

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 Yessir.  But a lot of people assume it is far higher than 4%.

In fact, I think most assume it is a majority of workers.

But, nonetheless, those jobs could easily be filled with the migrant programs or citizens there.

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 Yessir.  But a lot of people assume it is far higher than 4%.

In fact, I think most assume it is a majority of workers.

But, nonetheless, those jobs could easily be filled with the migrant programs or citizens there.

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 As far as AOC she has a huge following & she says quiet subjects out loud. She's still a rookie in politics & will become more seasoned as time progresses. She has a way of making a connection with common folk which every politician strives for. She's one of the poorest members of Congress & hasn't been bought yet which I find refreshing.  

I can easily see her as a Presidential candidate soon.  I think she is very articulate and has a grasp on the topics.

I do not agree with her politics, of course.  

But if she were to move somewhat to the center, I think she could garner a lot more support.

Some time back I saw a very good speech she did.  Very big difference from some of the politicians that have to read or prep the speech.

I am quite surprised at how much she has improved since first coming into office.

You are very correct, she knows how to connect to the people.

Plus, she looks very nice!

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 As far as AOC she has a huge following & she says quiet subjects out loud. She's still a rookie in politics & will become more seasoned as time progresses. She has a way of making a connection with common folk which every politician strives for. She's one of the poorest members of Congress & hasn't been bought yet which I find refreshing.  

I can easily see her as a Presidential candidate soon.  I think she is very articulate and has a grasp on the topics.

I do not agree with her politics, of course.  

But if she were to move somewhat to the center, I think she could garner a lot more support.

Some time back I saw a very good speech she did.  Very big difference from some of the politicians that have to read or prep the speech.

I am quite surprised at how much she has improved since first coming into office.

You are very correct, she knows how to connect to the people.

Plus, she looks very nice!

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 AOC is a laughing stock. She gets elected due to an uninformed & disinterested base/district. She hasn't been bought because she has no appeal. She's the epitome of the saying "better to remain silent & thought to be a fool than to open your mouth & remove all doubt".

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 AOC is a laughing stock. She gets elected due to an uninformed & disinterested base/district. She hasn't been bought because she has no appeal. She's the epitome of the saying "better to remain silent & thought to be a fool than to open your mouth & remove all doubt".

 
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These people are getting caught , they are in quick sand, and it's glorious.   The closer we get the louder they cry.  Why?  Cause they have been deceitful to the American people.  Truth is coming out and they can't stand it.

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These people are getting caught , they are in quick sand, and it's glorious.   The closer we get the louder they cry.  Why?  Cause they have been deceitful to the American people.  Truth is coming out and they can't stand it.

 
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 Now that wasn't nice Mugg.

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 Now that wasn't nice Mugg.

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  C'mon man, she's a bimbo.......we both know it. She may have enthusiasm but she has no substance other than her ideologies. She's a NAIA cheerleader at best.

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  C'mon man, she's a bimbo.......we both know it. She may have enthusiasm but she has no substance other than her ideologies. She's a NAIA cheerleader at best.

 
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 It wasn't nice because it's true.   AOC's political views are God awful.... 

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 It wasn't nice because it's true.   AOC's political views are God awful.... 

 
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 AOC is now under scrutiny from the feds for aiding criminals in evading ICE. I'm guessing nothing happens immediately as there are more important thing to deal with.

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 AOC is now under scrutiny from the feds for aiding criminals in evading ICE. I'm guessing nothing happens immediately as there are more important thing to deal with.

 
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 From her point of view, she's educating immigrants regarding their rights under our immigration laws.

Homan says only 14,000 migrants have been arrested since the Donald took office.

The numbers have been so disappointing that Homan’s team has stopped giving daily ICE updates on their deportations. So maybe he's looking for a scapegoat to blame.

Like everything else, I wouldn't be surprised to see this end up in the courts.

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 From her point of view, she's educating immigrants regarding their rights under our immigration laws.

Homan says only 14,000 migrants have been arrested since the Donald took office.

The numbers have been so disappointing that Homan’s team has stopped giving daily ICE updates on their deportations. So maybe he's looking for a scapegoat to blame.

Like everything else, I wouldn't be surprised to see this end up in the courts.

 
 
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The entire Squad is a disgrace. All filthy anti-white/anti-western/Anti-American trash. Exactly why the countries they are descendant from are trash.

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