Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Droll. Is it really worth the effort to dumb it down further for sundance? I'm not so sure he would get it even then. In any case, he'd just follow the playbook of trump-worshippers and deflect to another issue when confronted with a losing argument. i see your point . simlple but valid logic escapes him . not sure why
You certainly need help writing English. What 3rd world country are you from?
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Droll. Is it really worth the effort to dumb it down further for sundance? I'm not so sure he would get it even then. In any case, he'd just follow the playbook of trump-worshippers and deflect to another issue when confronted with a losing argument. i see your point . simlple but valid logic escapes him . not sure why
You certainly need help writing English. What 3rd world country are you from?
delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
cnn reporting that israel claims now their us made vaccines are 93% effective against severe illness (hospitalization) but efficacy has dropped to only 64% for contracting the disease
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
cnn reporting that israel claims now their us made vaccines are 93% effective against severe illness (hospitalization) but efficacy has dropped to only 64% for contracting the disease
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states cnn reporting that israel claims now their us made vaccines are 93% effective against severe illness (hospitalization) but efficacy has dropped to only 64% for contracting the disease
This is concerning news.
As well as the fact that the new Delta variant now makes up HALF of all covid cases in the US and that number continues to rise, particularly in low vaccination states. You can probably guess which government is in charge in those states.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states cnn reporting that israel claims now their us made vaccines are 93% effective against severe illness (hospitalization) but efficacy has dropped to only 64% for contracting the disease
This is concerning news.
As well as the fact that the new Delta variant now makes up HALF of all covid cases in the US and that number continues to rise, particularly in low vaccination states. You can probably guess which government is in charge in those states.
delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US.
Stop.... covid is serious however its not an instant death sentence...think for yourself... give yourself some credit cause the government sure does not..
Stop.... covid is serious however its not an instant death sentence...think for yourself... give yourself some credit cause the government sure does not..
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US.
Hmph. All but one of those named states are red states (as expected) Imagine that.
With the emergence of the faster-spreading and DEADLIER "DELTA" variant among those who are *NOT* vaccinated, it seems unlikely we will escape another rough winter season (beginning in late October)
And since so many people are NOT vaccinated, this allows more time and hosts for the virus to mutate even more, and may eventually reach a point where the current vaccines are no longer effective. IOW, if everyone got vaccinated tomorrow, that would effectively shutdown all chances for the virus to mutate further......But if we do not, then further mutations *WILL* occur, and eventually we start all over with the shutdowns, social-distancing, NO SPORTS, and mask-wearing until the next vaccines are ready and EVERYBODY learns from this experience.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US.
Hmph. All but one of those named states are red states (as expected) Imagine that.
With the emergence of the faster-spreading and DEADLIER "DELTA" variant among those who are *NOT* vaccinated, it seems unlikely we will escape another rough winter season (beginning in late October)
And since so many people are NOT vaccinated, this allows more time and hosts for the virus to mutate even more, and may eventually reach a point where the current vaccines are no longer effective. IOW, if everyone got vaccinated tomorrow, that would effectively shutdown all chances for the virus to mutate further......But if we do not, then further mutations *WILL* occur, and eventually we start all over with the shutdowns, social-distancing, NO SPORTS, and mask-wearing until the next vaccines are ready and EVERYBODY learns from this experience.
Stop.... covid is serious however its not an instant death sentence...think for yourself... give yourself some credit cause the government sure does not..
Yeah, my sister is asthmatic, black, and was 50 last year when she got it. Wasn't too rough on her at all. It's a crap shoot. She's not obese but she isn't running marathons either.
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Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:
Stop.... covid is serious however its not an instant death sentence...think for yourself... give yourself some credit cause the government sure does not..
Yeah, my sister is asthmatic, black, and was 50 last year when she got it. Wasn't too rough on her at all. It's a crap shoot. She's not obese but she isn't running marathons either.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US.
Hmph. All but one of those named states are red states (as expected) Imagine that.
With the emergence of the faster-spreading and DEADLIER "DELTA" variant among those who are *NOT* vaccinated, it seems unlikely we will escape another rough winter season (beginning in late October)
And since so many people are NOT vaccinated, this allows more time and hosts for the virus to mutate even more, and may eventually reach a point where the current vaccines are no longer effective. IOW, if everyone got vaccinated tomorrow, that would effectively shutdown all chances for the virus to mutate further......But if we do not, then further mutations *WILL* occur, and eventually we start all over with the shutdowns, social-distancing, NO SPORTS, and mask-wearing until the next vaccines are ready and EVERYBODY learns from this experience.
exactly
its too early to say just yet but i think that when the light is shone later we will likely discover that the resurgence of the deadly virus and variants will largely be the fault of rumplicker states
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states
12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US.
Hmph. All but one of those named states are red states (as expected) Imagine that.
With the emergence of the faster-spreading and DEADLIER "DELTA" variant among those who are *NOT* vaccinated, it seems unlikely we will escape another rough winter season (beginning in late October)
And since so many people are NOT vaccinated, this allows more time and hosts for the virus to mutate even more, and may eventually reach a point where the current vaccines are no longer effective. IOW, if everyone got vaccinated tomorrow, that would effectively shutdown all chances for the virus to mutate further......But if we do not, then further mutations *WILL* occur, and eventually we start all over with the shutdowns, social-distancing, NO SPORTS, and mask-wearing until the next vaccines are ready and EVERYBODY learns from this experience.
exactly
its too early to say just yet but i think that when the light is shone later we will likely discover that the resurgence of the deadly virus and variants will largely be the fault of rumplicker states
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states 12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US. Hmph. All but one of those named states are red states (as expected) Imagine that. With the emergence of the faster-spreading and DEADLIER "DELTA" variant among those who are *NOT* vaccinated, it seems unlikely we will escape another rough winter season (beginning in late October) And since so many people are NOT vaccinated, this allows more time and hosts for the virus to mutate even more, and may eventually reach a point where the current vaccines are no longer effective. IOW, if everyone got vaccinated tomorrow, that would effectively shutdown all chances for the virus to mutate further......But if we do not, then further mutations *WILL* occur, and eventually we start all over with the shutdowns, social-distancing, NO SPORTS, and mask-wearing until the next vaccines are ready and EVERYBODY learns from this experience. exactly its too early to say just yet but i think that when the light is shone later we will likely discover that the resurgence of the deadly virus and variants will largely be the fault of rumplicker states
This is a very minor illness if you are healthy, not fat/obese and have proper levels of vitamins d and c. This was/is not rocket science. Every part of the process eminating from Fauci was to eventually vaccinate everybody on the planet. Amazing die hard libs can not see this!
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: delta variant sprreading fast across usa especially in red states 12 states most at risk have high infection rates and low vaccination rates. Arkansas, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Missouri and Florida. World health organization warns against lifting public health restrictions prematurely unless vaccination rate is high enough. But politicians are eager to gamble by lifting restrictions while public health experts are more cautious. 80% population immunity is needed to prevent winter surge in US. Hmph. All but one of those named states are red states (as expected) Imagine that. With the emergence of the faster-spreading and DEADLIER "DELTA" variant among those who are *NOT* vaccinated, it seems unlikely we will escape another rough winter season (beginning in late October) And since so many people are NOT vaccinated, this allows more time and hosts for the virus to mutate even more, and may eventually reach a point where the current vaccines are no longer effective. IOW, if everyone got vaccinated tomorrow, that would effectively shutdown all chances for the virus to mutate further......But if we do not, then further mutations *WILL* occur, and eventually we start all over with the shutdowns, social-distancing, NO SPORTS, and mask-wearing until the next vaccines are ready and EVERYBODY learns from this experience. exactly its too early to say just yet but i think that when the light is shone later we will likely discover that the resurgence of the deadly virus and variants will largely be the fault of rumplicker states
This is a very minor illness if you are healthy, not fat/obese and have proper levels of vitamins d and c. This was/is not rocket science. Every part of the process eminating from Fauci was to eventually vaccinate everybody on the planet. Amazing die hard libs can not see this!
There are over 606,000 Dead Americans from this "very minor illness" -- and MILLIONS more who survived but suffered horribly at home or in the hospital for WEEKS!! Thousands more are reported to have long lasting NEGATIVE affects after recovering from covid attack -- many of which will last forever.
ANd that was the original strain ov covid.
The NEW strain, dubbed "DELTA" is reportedly not only more infectious bu8t leads to more severe symptoms and negative health effects. So far it is killing at the same rate but it is too early to tell if it may be even more deadly, as suspected. Furthermore, withot vaccinations to END covid once and for all, the virus will continue to spread -- EVEN IF IT DOESN'T KILL -- and as a result of bouncing around from one host to another *IT MUTATES EVEN MORE* -- each time becoming more resistant and more deadly. ONLY a fool or a moron *refuses* to understand this.
Vitamin D in relation to covid has been debunked as bullsht, an reported here TWICE.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
This is a very minor illness
Amazing die hard libs can not see this!
There are over 606,000 Dead Americans from this "very minor illness" -- and MILLIONS more who survived but suffered horribly at home or in the hospital for WEEKS!! Thousands more are reported to have long lasting NEGATIVE affects after recovering from covid attack -- many of which will last forever.
ANd that was the original strain ov covid.
The NEW strain, dubbed "DELTA" is reportedly not only more infectious bu8t leads to more severe symptoms and negative health effects. So far it is killing at the same rate but it is too early to tell if it may be even more deadly, as suspected. Furthermore, withot vaccinations to END covid once and for all, the virus will continue to spread -- EVEN IF IT DOESN'T KILL -- and as a result of bouncing around from one host to another *IT MUTATES EVEN MORE* -- each time becoming more resistant and more deadly. ONLY a fool or a moron *refuses* to understand this.
Vitamin D in relation to covid has been debunked as bullsht, an reported here TWICE.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: This is a very minor illness Amazing die hard libs can not see this! There are over 606,000 Dead Americans from this "very minor illness" -- and MILLIONS more who survived but suffered horribly at home or in the hospital for WEEKS!! Thousands more are reported to have long lasting NEGATIVE affects after recovering from covid attack -- many of which will last forever. ANd that was the original strain ov covid. The NEW strain, dubbed "DELTA" is reportedly not only more infectious bu8t leads to more severe symptoms and negative health effects. So far it is killing at the same rate but it is too early to tell if it may be even more deadly, as suspected. Furthermore, withot vaccinations to END covid once and for all, the virus will continue to spread -- EVEN IF IT DOESN'T KILL -- and as a result of bouncing around from one host to another *IT MUTATES EVEN MORE* -- each time becoming more resistant and more deadly. ONLY a fool or a moron *refuses* to understand this. Vitamin D in relation to covid has been debunked as bullsht, an reported here TWICE.
Delta, Lambda, Epsilon
Time is a flat circle....
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: This is a very minor illness Amazing die hard libs can not see this! There are over 606,000 Dead Americans from this "very minor illness" -- and MILLIONS more who survived but suffered horribly at home or in the hospital for WEEKS!! Thousands more are reported to have long lasting NEGATIVE affects after recovering from covid attack -- many of which will last forever. ANd that was the original strain ov covid. The NEW strain, dubbed "DELTA" is reportedly not only more infectious bu8t leads to more severe symptoms and negative health effects. So far it is killing at the same rate but it is too early to tell if it may be even more deadly, as suspected. Furthermore, withot vaccinations to END covid once and for all, the virus will continue to spread -- EVEN IF IT DOESN'T KILL -- and as a result of bouncing around from one host to another *IT MUTATES EVEN MORE* -- each time becoming more resistant and more deadly. ONLY a fool or a moron *refuses* to understand this. Vitamin D in relation to covid has been debunked as bullsht, an reported here TWICE.
Correcting the record of today's erroneous posts inside this thread. The following basic, simple facts are all true. Show me your 'fake' science that proves me wrong.
This is a very minor illness if you are healthy, not fat/obese and have proper levels of vitamins d and c. This was/is not rocket science. Every part of the process eminating from Fauci was to eventually vaccinate everybody on the planet. Amazing die hard libs can not see this!
Correcting the record of today's erroneous posts inside this thread. The following basic, simple facts are all true. Show me your 'fake' science that proves me wrong.
This is a very minor illness if you are healthy, not fat/obese and have proper levels of vitamins d and c. This was/is not rocket science. Every part of the process eminating from Fauci was to eventually vaccinate everybody on the planet. Amazing die hard libs can not see this!
Over 600,000.... is .0018 of the US Population.... average flu deaths in American are roughly 60k per year so covid has done 10 times that (in a year when there were virtually non existent cases of death through influenza - completely different discussion there).
Just putting some perspective out there with regards to the "minor illness"
Obesity rate is 42% which is roughly 138 million Americans.... it could've been much worse
Time is a flat circle....
@fubah2
@sundance
Over 600,000.... is .0018 of the US Population.... average flu deaths in American are roughly 60k per year so covid has done 10 times that (in a year when there were virtually non existent cases of death through influenza - completely different discussion there).
Just putting some perspective out there with regards to the "minor illness"
Obesity rate is 42% which is roughly 138 million Americans.... it could've been much worse
@fubah2 @sundance Over 600,000.... is .0018 of the US Population.... average flu deaths in American are roughly 60k per year so covid has done 10 times that (in a year when there were virtually non existent cases of death through influenza - completely different discussion there). Just putting some perspective out there with regards to the "minor illness" Obesity rate is 42% which is roughly 138 million Americans.... it could've been much worse
Your point is well taken. Without writing a book. My point is the following. American citizens were never told the truth regarding how they can prevent or minimize the affects of covid. The death toll would have been much less if we were instructed to take vitamins d and c in suffficient levels on a daily basis.
Instead we were told to cover our mouth and nose with a mask and to socially distance. It has been and will continue to be a toal disinformation campaign vs the American citizens from Fauci to Biden to Psaki. The disinformation campaign is all about vaccinating everybody in the country even though the survivabilty rate is roughly 99.5% or thereabouts.
Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
@fubah2 @sundance Over 600,000.... is .0018 of the US Population.... average flu deaths in American are roughly 60k per year so covid has done 10 times that (in a year when there were virtually non existent cases of death through influenza - completely different discussion there). Just putting some perspective out there with regards to the "minor illness" Obesity rate is 42% which is roughly 138 million Americans.... it could've been much worse
Your point is well taken. Without writing a book. My point is the following. American citizens were never told the truth regarding how they can prevent or minimize the affects of covid. The death toll would have been much less if we were instructed to take vitamins d and c in suffficient levels on a daily basis.
Instead we were told to cover our mouth and nose with a mask and to socially distance. It has been and will continue to be a toal disinformation campaign vs the American citizens from Fauci to Biden to Psaki. The disinformation campaign is all about vaccinating everybody in the country even though the survivabilty rate is roughly 99.5% or thereabouts.
The death toll would have been much less if we were instructed to take vitamins d and c in suffficient levels on a daily basis. Instead we were told to cover our mouth and nose with a mask and to socially distance.
Fubah2 is right. In many countries, vitamins supplement have been tested and they don't work. No evidence that vitamins treat or protect against coronavirus according to Oxford and McGill universities. However masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccinations have proven effective worldwide. Every top public health organization in the world recommend them. Despite extensive public health measures, over 600,000 still died in the US.
Downplaying seriousness of pandemic is one of the reasons why US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Even at low 1% death rate, there could be 6 million deaths if entire US population is infected without vaccines. 2020 is among the deadliest years in US history with casualties greater than multiple wars combined.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
The death toll would have been much less if we were instructed to take vitamins d and c in suffficient levels on a daily basis. Instead we were told to cover our mouth and nose with a mask and to socially distance.
Fubah2 is right. In many countries, vitamins supplement have been tested and they don't work. No evidence that vitamins treat or protect against coronavirus according to Oxford and McGill universities. However masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccinations have proven effective worldwide. Every top public health organization in the world recommend them. Despite extensive public health measures, over 600,000 still died in the US.
Downplaying seriousness of pandemic is one of the reasons why US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Even at low 1% death rate, there could be 6 million deaths if entire US population is infected without vaccines. 2020 is among the deadliest years in US history with casualties greater than multiple wars combined.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The death toll would have been much less if we were instructed to take vitamins d and c in suffficient levels on a daily basis. Instead we were told to cover our mouth and nose with a mask and to socially distance. Fubah2 is right. In many countries, vitamins supplement have been tested and they don't work. No evidence that vitamins treat or protect against coronavirus according to Oxford and McGill universities. However masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccinations have proven effective worldwide. Every top public health organization in the world recommend them. Despite extensive public health measures, over 600,000 still died in the US. Downplaying seriousness of pandemic is one of the reasons why US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Even at low 1% death rate, there could be 6 million deaths if entire US population is infected without vaccines. 2020 is among the deadliest years in US history with casualties greater than multiple wars combined.
The vitamin aspect goes hand in hand with healthy immune systems....someone high risk that got covid wasn't going to magically recover/survive by loading up on vitamin D & C. They were already compromised. People with healthy immune systems, those who take care of themselves by eating right/vitamins/exercise/etc., were not and are not the ones at risk of dying.
Time is a flat circle....
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The death toll would have been much less if we were instructed to take vitamins d and c in suffficient levels on a daily basis. Instead we were told to cover our mouth and nose with a mask and to socially distance. Fubah2 is right. In many countries, vitamins supplement have been tested and they don't work. No evidence that vitamins treat or protect against coronavirus according to Oxford and McGill universities. However masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccinations have proven effective worldwide. Every top public health organization in the world recommend them. Despite extensive public health measures, over 600,000 still died in the US. Downplaying seriousness of pandemic is one of the reasons why US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Even at low 1% death rate, there could be 6 million deaths if entire US population is infected without vaccines. 2020 is among the deadliest years in US history with casualties greater than multiple wars combined.
The vitamin aspect goes hand in hand with healthy immune systems....someone high risk that got covid wasn't going to magically recover/survive by loading up on vitamin D & C. They were already compromised. People with healthy immune systems, those who take care of themselves by eating right/vitamins/exercise/etc., were not and are not the ones at risk of dying.
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