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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 5:30 PM ET #2551

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.*

    *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html

    Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!  

     

    covid cases  have recently risen  close to 50% from the week before  

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.*

    *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html

    Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!  

     

    covid cases  have recently risen  close to 50% from the week before  

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 5:44 PM ET #2552

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.*

    *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html

    Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!  

     

     

    covid cases  have recently risen  close to 50% from the week before  

    Missouri does not have 'herd immunity'!

    As the Delta variant rapidly spreads, US hot spots have seen climbing case
    numbers -- and an expert warns a "surprising amount of death" from
    Covid-19 could soon follow.
    The US is averaging about 19,455 new cases over the past seven days,
    a whopping 47% increase from the week prior,
    according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

    Medical analyst Dr. Jonathan Reiner said a third of those come from
    just five hot spots: Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri and Nevada.


        "In places like Missouri where ICUs are packed, we're going to see
         a surprising amount of death," Reiner said on Sunday.

    At Mercy Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, 91% of patients in the ICU
      are on ventilators   and many are in their 20s, 30s and 40s,
    Chief Administrative Officer Erik Frederick said Saturday.

    That is especially concerning, he said, because at the peak last year
    there were only 40 to 50% of ICU patients on ventilators!

    Typically, spikes in Covid-19 cases leads to a rise in death rates 3-4 weeks later

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.*

    *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html

    Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!  

     

     

    covid cases  have recently risen  close to 50% from the week before  

    Missouri does not have 'herd immunity'!

    As the Delta variant rapidly spreads, US hot spots have seen climbing case
    numbers -- and an expert warns a "surprising amount of death" from
    Covid-19 could soon follow.
    The US is averaging about 19,455 new cases over the past seven days,
    a whopping 47% increase from the week prior,
    according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

    Medical analyst Dr. Jonathan Reiner said a third of those come from
    just five hot spots: Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri and Nevada.


        "In places like Missouri where ICUs are packed, we're going to see
         a surprising amount of death," Reiner said on Sunday.

    At Mercy Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, 91% of patients in the ICU
      are on ventilators   and many are in their 20s, 30s and 40s,
    Chief Administrative Officer Erik Frederick said Saturday.

    That is especially concerning, he said, because at the peak last year
    there were only 40 to 50% of ICU patients on ventilators!

    Typically, spikes in Covid-19 cases leads to a rise in death rates 3-4 weeks later

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2021 - 1:53 AM ET #2553

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.* *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!     covid cases  have recently risen  close to 50% from the week before

    Idiotic ideology can't bully Covid-19, it's not gonna work. Even this weekend in the CPAC, guys are mocking and cheering the underachievement by the Biden administration's Covid vaccination goal*. So stupid and cruel. 

    *https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/11/anthony-fauci-cpac-cheers-missing-vaccination-goal-sot-sotu-vpx.cnn

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.* *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!     covid cases  have recently risen  close to 50% from the week before

    Idiotic ideology can't bully Covid-19, it's not gonna work. Even this weekend in the CPAC, guys are mocking and cheering the underachievement by the Biden administration's Covid vaccination goal*. So stupid and cruel. 

    *https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/11/anthony-fauci-cpac-cheers-missing-vaccination-goal-sot-sotu-vpx.cnn

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2021 - 12:42 PM ET #2554

    "My right to swing my fists ENDS where YOUR nose begins."

                                                             - Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

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    "My right to swing my fists ENDS where YOUR nose begins."

                                                             - Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2021 - 8:45 PM ET #2555

    Healthy 57 year old London father fighting for his life while being paralyzed after taking the 1st dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine. The icing on the cake.

    The British health care system continues to text him to take the 2nd deadly dose from AstraZeneca! The sad story is inside the link below. You will not hear this story from Mr Biden.

     

    Dad In Hospital Paralyzed By 1st Covid Vaccine Continues Receiving Texts About Jab #2 (infowars.com)

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    Healthy 57 year old London father fighting for his life while being paralyzed after taking the 1st dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine. The icing on the cake.

    The British health care system continues to text him to take the 2nd deadly dose from AstraZeneca! The sad story is inside the link below. You will not hear this story from Mr Biden.

     

    Dad In Hospital Paralyzed By 1st Covid Vaccine Continues Receiving Texts About Jab #2 (infowars.com)

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2021 - 10:14 PM ET #2556

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     

     

     

    Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them!

    It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for.

    Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry?

    Let's ask trump and see what he says! 

    its odd that rumplickers across america believe everything rump tells them to believe and yet when it comes to the rump vaccine that he demands credit for  suddenly they all get selective amnesia and they say vaccines r all bidens fault

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     

     

     

    Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them!

    It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for.

    Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry?

    Let's ask trump and see what he says! 

    its odd that rumplickers across america believe everything rump tells them to believe and yet when it comes to the rump vaccine that he demands credit for  suddenly they all get selective amnesia and they say vaccines r all bidens fault

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2021 - 10:17 PM ET #2557

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!  Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!       Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them! It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for. Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry? Let's ask trump and see what he says!  its odd that rumplickers across america believe everything rump tells them to believe and yet when it comes to the rump vaccine that he demands credit for  suddenly they all get selective amnesia and they say vaccines r all bidens fault

    Please put your degree to good use and find where I said the vaccine is Biden's fault. I have not fdrank that much lately!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!  Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!       Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them! It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for. Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry? Let's ask trump and see what he says!  its odd that rumplickers across america believe everything rump tells them to believe and yet when it comes to the rump vaccine that he demands credit for  suddenly they all get selective amnesia and they say vaccines r all bidens fault

    Please put your degree to good use and find where I said the vaccine is Biden's fault. I have not fdrank that much lately!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     

     

     

    Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them!

    It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for.

    Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry?

    Let's ask trump and see what he says! 

     

     

     

    its odd that rumplickers across america believe everything rump tells them to believe and yet when it comes to the rump vaccine that he demands credit for  suddenly they all get selective amnesia and they say vaccines r all bidens fault

    They are a weird bunch, to be sure. 

    The vaccine is claimed by trump as one of his crowning achievements!  He does demand credit for it and whines repeatedly that left wing media doesn't give him enough credit.  The vaccine is trump's baby.  Not really sure why anone would rewrite that history and deny it.   trump insisted on taking full ownership of it.  In fact he bragged about  incessantly just before the election in hopes it would be available then and he could boast about it EVEN MORE!   Remember that?

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     

     

     

    Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them!

    It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for.

    Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry?

    Let's ask trump and see what he says! 

     

     

     

    its odd that rumplickers across america believe everything rump tells them to believe and yet when it comes to the rump vaccine that he demands credit for  suddenly they all get selective amnesia and they say vaccines r all bidens fault

    They are a weird bunch, to be sure. 

    The vaccine is claimed by trump as one of his crowning achievements!  He does demand credit for it and whines repeatedly that left wing media doesn't give him enough credit.  The vaccine is trump's baby.  Not really sure why anone would rewrite that history and deny it.   trump insisted on taking full ownership of it.  In fact he bragged about  incessantly just before the election in hopes it would be available then and he could boast about it EVEN MORE!   Remember that?

     

     

     

     
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    The latest numbers from Europe. Only 17,503 dead from the vaccine. Only 1.7 million injured. More important numbers inside the link below. For those of you injected with spike proteins. Please look into dandelion to help you.

    17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

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    The latest numbers from Europe. Only 17,503 dead from the vaccine. Only 1.7 million injured. More important numbers inside the link below. For those of you injected with spike proteins. Please look into dandelion to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on Globalization

    European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.  Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects.  Adverse events may be caused by another illness or drug.  Reports are unverified and further research is needed before making conclusions.  NATO has accused Global research of promoting conspiracy theories and Russian disinformation according to fact checker politifact.  Also Facebook has flagged its content as fake news.

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    17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on Globalization

    European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.  Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects.  Adverse events may be caused by another illness or drug.  Reports are unverified and further research is needed before making conclusions.  NATO has accused Global research of promoting conspiracy theories and Russian disinformation according to fact checker politifact.  Also Facebook has flagged its content as fake news.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on

     

    Globalization European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. 

    Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects

     

    Bottom line.  thumbs_up

    The  trump-vaccine  is the best option to vastly reduce the spread of covid, particularly here in the US

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on

     

    Globalization European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. 

    Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects

     

    Bottom line.  thumbs_up

    The  trump-vaccine  is the best option to vastly reduce the spread of covid, particularly here in the US

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on   Globalization European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.  Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects   Bottom line.  The  trump-vaccine  is the best option to vastly reduce the spread of covid, particularly here in the US

    I still have not come into contact with the Variant! Or is it the Variant has not come into contact with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on   Globalization European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.  Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects   Bottom line.  The  trump-vaccine  is the best option to vastly reduce the spread of covid, particularly here in the US

    I still have not come into contact with the Variant! Or is it the Variant has not come into contact with me?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
    17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on Globalization

     

     

    European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. 

    Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects. 

    Adverse events may be caused by another illness or drug. 

    Reports are unverified and further research is needed before making conclusions. 

    NATO has accused Global Research of promoting conspiracy theories and Russian disinformation according to fact checker politifact. 

    Also Facebook has flagged its content as fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
    17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on Globalization

     

     

    European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. 

    Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects. 

    Adverse events may be caused by another illness or drug. 

    Reports are unverified and further research is needed before making conclusions. 

    NATO has accused Global Research of promoting conspiracy theories and Russian disinformation according to fact checker politifact. 

    Also Facebook has flagged its content as fake news.

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    trump-vaccine can save lives!

    For many reluctant Americans it's too late,
    as the Delta variant of coronavirus sweeps through unvaccinated populations,
    especially in the South.
    The agony of patients who chose not to get vaccinated but then wish too late
    that they could change their minds is a heavy burden for health care providers.

    "Most of the patients I see are regretful that they didn't get vaccinated,"
    Missouri emergency physician Dr. Christopher Morrison said Monday.
    "I'm not there to wag a finger at them at that point, " Morrison said.
    But he added: "When people are that sick, they wish they had done
    anything they could to avoid being that sick."


    And it's all going to get even worse.

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    trump-vaccine can save lives!

    For many reluctant Americans it's too late,
    as the Delta variant of coronavirus sweeps through unvaccinated populations,
    especially in the South.
    The agony of patients who chose not to get vaccinated but then wish too late
    that they could change their minds is a heavy burden for health care providers.

    "Most of the patients I see are regretful that they didn't get vaccinated,"
    Missouri emergency physician Dr. Christopher Morrison said Monday.
    "I'm not there to wag a finger at them at that point, " Morrison said.
    But he added: "When people are that sick, they wish they had done
    anything they could to avoid being that sick."


    And it's all going to get even worse.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on Globalization European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.  Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects.  Adverse events may be caused by another illness or drug.  Reports are unverified and further research is needed before making conclusions.  NATO has accused Global research of promoting conspiracy theories and Russian disinformation according to fact checker politifact.  Also Facebook has flagged its content as fake news.

    Well if Zuckerberg says it's fake then it must be.... it's amazing that in today's world people still get their news (and believe it) from FB an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 17,503 Dead, 1.7 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots  - Centre for Research on Globalization European database doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.  Disclaimer warns that reports shouldn't be interpreted as meaning that vaccines cause suspected side effects.  Adverse events may be caused by another illness or drug.  Reports are unverified and further research is needed before making conclusions.  NATO has accused Global research of promoting conspiracy theories and Russian disinformation according to fact checker politifact.  Also Facebook has flagged its content as fake news.

    Well if Zuckerberg says it's fake then it must be.... it's amazing that in today's world people still get their news (and believe it) from FB an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    trump-vaccine can save lives!

    For many reluctant Americans it's too late,
    as the Delta variant of coronavirus sweeps through unvaccinated populations,
    especially in the South.
    The agony of patients who chose not to get vaccinated but then wish too late
    that they could change their minds is a heavy burden for health care providers.

    "Most of the patients I see are regretful that they didn't get vaccinated,"
    Missouri emergency physician Dr. Christopher Morrison said Monday.
    "I'm not there to wag a finger at them at that point, " Morrison said.
    But he added: "When people are that sick, they wish they had done
    anything they could to avoid being that sick."

    And it's all going to get even worse.

    rump vaccine would save rumplickers from severe sickness in a great many cases   and even death  but not just them but anyone they would come in contact with too

     

     

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    trump-vaccine can save lives!

    For many reluctant Americans it's too late,
    as the Delta variant of coronavirus sweeps through unvaccinated populations,
    especially in the South.
    The agony of patients who chose not to get vaccinated but then wish too late
    that they could change their minds is a heavy burden for health care providers.

    "Most of the patients I see are regretful that they didn't get vaccinated,"
    Missouri emergency physician Dr. Christopher Morrison said Monday.
    "I'm not there to wag a finger at them at that point, " Morrison said.
    But he added: "When people are that sick, they wish they had done
    anything they could to avoid being that sick."

    And it's all going to get even worse.

    rump vaccine would save rumplickers from severe sickness in a great many cases   and even death  but not just them but anyone they would come in contact with too

     

     

     
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    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.  In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.  Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.  Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.  Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers, airline staff and frontline workers. 

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    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.  In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.  Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.  Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.  Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers, airline staff and frontline workers. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.  In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.  Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.  Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.  Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers, airline staff and frontline workers.

    If they numbers are up in 35 states, that would mean they are up in states that came near, or surpassed their vaccination goals. Just saying.

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    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.  In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.  Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.  Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.  Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers, airline staff and frontline workers.

    If they numbers are up in 35 states, that would mean they are up in states that came near, or surpassed their vaccination goals. Just saying.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    If they numbers are up in 35 states, that would mean they are up in states that came near, or surpassed their vaccination goals. Just saying.

     

    Logically yes.   So?

    If a state achieves a goal of 60% or 70% or 80% vaccination, while continued infections still occuring daily among those 30% who are UNvaccinated, a surge among that segment from the more infectious Delta variant *PLUS* increasing close-contact socialization in crowds, INCREASES the infection rate in the state from the prior 14 day avg.  Fairly simple math.

     

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    If they numbers are up in 35 states, that would mean they are up in states that came near, or surpassed their vaccination goals. Just saying.

     

    Logically yes.   So?

    If a state achieves a goal of 60% or 70% or 80% vaccination, while continued infections still occuring daily among those 30% who are UNvaccinated, a surge among that segment from the more infectious Delta variant *PLUS* increasing close-contact socialization in crowds, INCREASES the infection rate in the state from the prior 14 day avg.  Fairly simple math.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.
    In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.
    Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.
    Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.
    Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers,
    airline staff and frontline workers.

    Exactly.

     

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    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.
    In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.
    Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.
    Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.
    Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers,
    airline staff and frontline workers.

    Exactly.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.  In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.  Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.  Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.  Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers, airline staff and frontline workers.

     

    as i understand it the vast majority of states with the worst vaccination rates r red states  and the vast majority of americans refusing vaccination , meaning those who could easily and conveniently get it but they still refuse , r rumplickers

     

     

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    US surgeon general Murphy warns of the dangers of misinformation.  In 35 states, covid cases are up over 50% according to John Hopkins university.  Misleading vaccine claims are largely to blame for the number of unvaccinated Americans.  Misinformation can cause confusion, sow distrust, harm people's health and undermine public health efforts.  Also it lead to harassment or violence against healthcare workers, airline staff and frontline workers.

     

    as i understand it the vast majority of states with the worst vaccination rates r red states  and the vast majority of americans refusing vaccination , meaning those who could easily and conveniently get it but they still refuse , r rumplickers

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: If they numbers are up in 35 states, that would mean they are up in states that came near, or surpassed their vaccination goals. Just saying.   Logically yes.   So? If a state achieves a goal of 60% or 70% or 80% vaccination, while continued infections still occuring daily among those 30% who are UNvaccinated, a surge among that segment from the more infectious Delta variant *PLUS* increasing close-contact socialization in crowds, INCREASES the infection rate in the state from the prior 14 day avg.  Fairly simple math.

    Fully inoculated people can still get infected with Covid-19, MLB has to postpone today's BOS/NYY game since Yankees have three fully vaccinated players tested Covid positive. However, nowadays 99+% of Covid deaths are unvaccinated*. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/07/04/more-than-99-us-covid-deaths-involve-unvaccinated-people/7856564002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: If they numbers are up in 35 states, that would mean they are up in states that came near, or surpassed their vaccination goals. Just saying.   Logically yes.   So? If a state achieves a goal of 60% or 70% or 80% vaccination, while continued infections still occuring daily among those 30% who are UNvaccinated, a surge among that segment from the more infectious Delta variant *PLUS* increasing close-contact socialization in crowds, INCREASES the infection rate in the state from the prior 14 day avg.  Fairly simple math.

    Fully inoculated people can still get infected with Covid-19, MLB has to postpone today's BOS/NYY game since Yankees have three fully vaccinated players tested Covid positive. However, nowadays 99+% of Covid deaths are unvaccinated*. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/07/04/more-than-99-us-covid-deaths-involve-unvaccinated-people/7856564002/

     
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    Our country is experiencing 26,448 new virus cases each day per a Johns Hopkins University spokesman. This is the highest 7-day average since May 21st. 

    We have plenty of vaccine available but very few takers.

     

     

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    Our country is experiencing 26,448 new virus cases each day per a Johns Hopkins University spokesman. This is the highest 7-day average since May 21st. 

    We have plenty of vaccine available but very few takers.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Our country is experiencing 26,448 new virus cases each day per a Johns Hopkins University spokesman. This is the highest 7-day average since May 21st. 

    We have plenty of vaccine available but very few takers.

     

    this past week    1 in 5 of all new infections in america is in ron desantis' state

     

     

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    Our country is experiencing 26,448 new virus cases each day per a Johns Hopkins University spokesman. This is the highest 7-day average since May 21st. 

    We have plenty of vaccine available but very few takers.

     

    this past week    1 in 5 of all new infections in america is in ron desantis' state

     

     

     
     
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    I  borrowed the link below from the baseball forum. Michael Savage's wisdom is always a must listen! Here you go!

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