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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2021 - 8:02 PM ET #2601

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

      strange that rumplickers across america r so upset with the rump-vaccine . afterall this vaccine is his doing

     

     

    Absolutely!   Anyone with an IQ above 99 knows trump insists on owning the trump-covid-vaccine.

    It's his puppy, and he tried to convince all of America to praise him for it.

    To this very day he still wants credit for the vaccine he says HE created.

    But I agree, its really weird how those adolf-trump lovers actually worship the very toilet trump dumps in  and yet say the vaccine HE TAKES CREDIT FOR IS BAD ?!?!?!?!

    Well I guess when you're already that brain-damaged ...

    yep the 'rump vaccine' is his

    he owns it

    he demands praise for it

    yet many of his own rumplickers say the rump vaccine is poison confused

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

      strange that rumplickers across america r so upset with the rump-vaccine . afterall this vaccine is his doing

     

     

    Absolutely!   Anyone with an IQ above 99 knows trump insists on owning the trump-covid-vaccine.

    It's his puppy, and he tried to convince all of America to praise him for it.

    To this very day he still wants credit for the vaccine he says HE created.

    But I agree, its really weird how those adolf-trump lovers actually worship the very toilet trump dumps in  and yet say the vaccine HE TAKES CREDIT FOR IS BAD ?!?!?!?!

    Well I guess when you're already that brain-damaged ...

    yep the 'rump vaccine' is his

    he owns it

    he demands praise for it

    yet many of his own rumplickers say the rump vaccine is poison confused

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2021 - 9:17 PM ET #2602

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    CDC Reports More Covid Vaccine Deaths than Covid Deaths Over the Last Two Weeks (basedunderground.com)

    Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.  False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people.   CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.   Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports.  After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact.  Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021.

    Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.  0.003% of fully vaccinated people experience breakthrough infections, but they tend to have no or mild symptoms.  Despite high vaccine coverage, most covid deaths occur in senior population which is more vulnerable because of weaker immune system.  However vaccinated seniors are far less likely to die or be hospitalized than unvaccinated seniors. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    CDC Reports More Covid Vaccine Deaths than Covid Deaths Over the Last Two Weeks (basedunderground.com)

    Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.  False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people.   CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.   Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports.  After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact.  Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021.

    Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.  0.003% of fully vaccinated people experience breakthrough infections, but they tend to have no or mild symptoms.  Despite high vaccine coverage, most covid deaths occur in senior population which is more vulnerable because of weaker immune system.  However vaccinated seniors are far less likely to die or be hospitalized than unvaccinated seniors. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2021 - 10:15 PM ET #2603

    Bad news for the people of La County. They will have to wear masks indoors even if vaccinated! While having dinner at a restaurant you must put your mask on between swallows of Miller Lite and after taking a bite of your $40 burger! Insanity!

     

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    Bad news for the people of La County. They will have to wear masks indoors even if vaccinated! While having dinner at a restaurant you must put your mask on between swallows of Miller Lite and after taking a bite of your $40 burger! Insanity!

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2021 - 11:03 PM ET #2604

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Bad news for the people of La County. They will have to wear masks indoors even if vaccinated! While having dinner at a restaurant you must put your mask on between swallows of Miller Lite and after taking a bite of your $40 burger! Insanity!
    Just two more booster shots and you can go back to normal 

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    Bad news for the people of La County. They will have to wear masks indoors even if vaccinated! While having dinner at a restaurant you must put your mask on between swallows of Miller Lite and after taking a bite of your $40 burger! Insanity!
    Just two more booster shots and you can go back to normal 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2021 - 12:37 AM ET #2605

    It's a choice of indoor masking or ventilator in an ICU, the answer appears apparently. 

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    It's a choice of indoor masking or ventilator in an ICU, the answer appears apparently. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2021 - 1:04 AM ET #2606

    The Delta variant is so contagious, those unprotected will likely get it, a Trump administration FDA chief says

    "Most people will either get vaccinated, or have been previously infected, or they will get this Delta variant," Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

    For those not fully vaccinated, "quality of mask is going to make a difference with a variant that spreads more aggressively, like Delta does, where people are more contagious and exude more virus," he said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

    Dr. Scott Gottlieb was the FDA commissioner under the Trump administration, science over politics and ideology. 

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    The Delta variant is so contagious, those unprotected will likely get it, a Trump administration FDA chief says

    "Most people will either get vaccinated, or have been previously infected, or they will get this Delta variant," Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

    For those not fully vaccinated, "quality of mask is going to make a difference with a variant that spreads more aggressively, like Delta does, where people are more contagious and exude more virus," he said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

    Dr. Scott Gottlieb was the FDA commissioner under the Trump administration, science over politics and ideology. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2021 - 1:54 AM ET #2607

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.

    False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people. CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports. After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact. Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021.

    Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.

     

    Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts.

    And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements!

    Go figure.

    Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would

    -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR??

    -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???

     

    Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.

     

    This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large!

    If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is!

    Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.

    False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people. CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports. After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact. Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021.

    Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.

     

    Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts.

    And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements!

    Go figure.

    Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would

    -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR??

    -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???

     

    Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.

     

    This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large!

    If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is!

    Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2021 - 2:26 PM ET #2608

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines. False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people. CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports. After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact. Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021. Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.   Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts. And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements! Go figure. Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR?? -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???   Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.   This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large! If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is! Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!
    Show me proof of unvaccinated being Right wingers. 2nd Any moron who would vote the American Rescue Plan which included a 80 million dollar pickle ball facility in Massachusetts should be shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines. False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people. CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe. Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports. After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact. Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021. Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.   Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts. And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements! Go figure. Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR?? -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???   Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.   This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large! If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is! Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!
    Show me proof of unvaccinated being Right wingers. 2nd Any moron who would vote the American Rescue Plan which included a 80 million dollar pickle ball facility in Massachusetts should be shot.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2021 - 2:30 PM ET #2609

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts.

    And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements!

    Go figure.

    Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would

    -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR??

    -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???

     

    Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.

     

    This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large!

    If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is!

    Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!

     

    of course if rump was endorsing the same thing the dems r today   then rumplickers would b all in favor of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts.

    And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements!

    Go figure.

    Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would

    -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR??

    -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???

     

    Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.

     

    This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large!

    If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is!

    Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!

     

    of course if rump was endorsing the same thing the dems r today   then rumplickers would b all in favor of it

    an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    It's the typical bull shit you try to perceive because it fits your narrative. The Dem's don't try to get bills passed to help Americans. Their to busy adding the absolutely useless bullshit to every bill that anyone with an IQ over 99 WOULD NOT VOTE FOR. You are part of the problem fudging your comments to make you think you know what you are talking about. Again, you and kelly are two biggest misinformation dudes on this forum. Your monotonous post become more useless everyday. 

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    It's the typical bull shit you try to perceive because it fits your narrative. The Dem's don't try to get bills passed to help Americans. Their to busy adding the absolutely useless bullshit to every bill that anyone with an IQ over 99 WOULD NOT VOTE FOR. You are part of the problem fudging your comments to make you think you know what you are talking about. Again, you and kelly are two biggest misinformation dudes on this forum. Your monotonous post become more useless everyday. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts.

    And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements!

    Go figure.

    Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would

    -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR??

    -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???

     

    Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.

     

    This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large!

    If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is!

    Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!

     

     

     

    of course if rump was endorsing the same thing the dems r today   then rumplickers would b all in favor of it

    an_roll_laugh

    Oh ABSOLUTELY!!!  Then they would make up sht and blame the Dems as anti-vaxers!!! an_roll_laugh

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Of course the overwhelming majority of anti-vaxers are rightwingnuts.

    And they are in effect protesting what trump claims as one of his greatest achievements!

    Go figure.

    Think for a minute.... *IF* trump himself was, all along and even right now, appearing frequently on FOX News to promote HIS life-saving trump-vaccines and repeatedly encouraging all his supporters to get vaccinated, would

    -- Carlson and Ingraham be openly disagreeing with/and mocking him ON AIR??

    -- and would all his cult-supporters still refuse HIS vaccine (to the same degree they are now) ???

     

    Only an irrational idiot would claim "yes" to either of those two hypothetical Qs.

     

    This is largely political now.  Not only political -----> but largely. Very large!

    If the Democrats promote *ANYTHING* the trump-toilet-worshippers will AUTOMATICALLY oppose it, no matter what it is!

    Hell, they couldn't even get one single vote for the American Rescue Plan to help the American people *DESPITE* 68% of the American public was all for it!

     

     

     

    of course if rump was endorsing the same thing the dems r today   then rumplickers would b all in favor of it

    an_roll_laugh

    Oh ABSOLUTELY!!!  Then they would make up sht and blame the Dems as anti-vaxers!!! an_roll_laugh

     

     

     

     
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    Donald Trump takes full ownership
    of the trump-vaccines!

     

    "Joe Biden kept talking about how good of a job he's doing
     on the distribution of the Vaccine that was developed by an_light
     Operation Warp Speed or, quite simply, the Trump Administration,"
              trump said in a statement released via his Save America PAC on Sunday.

     

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    Donald Trump takes full ownership
    of the trump-vaccines!

     

    "Joe Biden kept talking about how good of a job he's doing
     on the distribution of the Vaccine that was developed by an_light
     Operation Warp Speed or, quite simply, the Trump Administration,"
              trump said in a statement released via his Save America PAC on Sunday.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: CDC Reports More Covid Vaccine Deaths than Covid Deaths Over the Last Two Weeks (basedunderground.com) Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.  False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people.   CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.   Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports.  After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact.  Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021. Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.  0.003% of fully vaccinated people experience breakthrough infections, but they tend to have no or mild symptoms.  Despite high vaccine coverage, most covid deaths occur in senior population which is more vulnerable because of weaker immune system.  However vaccinated seniors are far less likely to die or be hospitalized than unvaccinated seniors.

    WHY do you continue to put MISINFORMATION on Covers?? DIDN'T you read the thread "THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS KNOWINGLY SPREADING FALSE INFO TO VULNERABLE PEOPLE"???

    You could be hurting "vulnerable people".

    Israel reports that up to 50% infected are vaccinated people; https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-50-of-delta-variant-cases-vaccinated-severe-2021-6

    UK just reported that 60% of HOSPITALIZATIONS are the unvaxed. The other 40%????

    UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. 

    Here in the U.S. a plane load of 50 VACCINATED democrats had 6 already test positive!!!! That's 12% and sure to climb some more!!!!

    0.003% is obviously an EXAGGAERATED NUMBER!!!!

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: CDC Reports More Covid Vaccine Deaths than Covid Deaths Over the Last Two Weeks (basedunderground.com) Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.  False to claim covid deaths are more likely in vaccinated people.   CDC disclaimer warns VAERS data doesn't prove vaccines are unsafe.   Number of vaccine deaths are often inflated by false reports.  After doctors investigate, there has been no definitive proof that covid vaccines kill people according to fact checker politifact.  Instead Commonwealth fund found US vaccination has prevented 279,000 extra deaths and 1.2 milllion hospitalizations. Now US is in a better position in 2021. Vaccines are highly safe and effective but not 100% perfect.  0.003% of fully vaccinated people experience breakthrough infections, but they tend to have no or mild symptoms.  Despite high vaccine coverage, most covid deaths occur in senior population which is more vulnerable because of weaker immune system.  However vaccinated seniors are far less likely to die or be hospitalized than unvaccinated seniors.

    WHY do you continue to put MISINFORMATION on Covers?? DIDN'T you read the thread "THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS KNOWINGLY SPREADING FALSE INFO TO VULNERABLE PEOPLE"???

    You could be hurting "vulnerable people".

    Israel reports that up to 50% infected are vaccinated people; https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-50-of-delta-variant-cases-vaccinated-severe-2021-6

    UK just reported that 60% of HOSPITALIZATIONS are the unvaxed. The other 40%????

    UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. 

    Here in the U.S. a plane load of 50 VACCINATED democrats had 6 already test positive!!!! That's 12% and sure to climb some more!!!!

    0.003% is obviously an EXAGGAERATED NUMBER!!!!

     

     

     

     
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    I’m old enough to remember when Kamala Harris said she wouldn’t take the vaccine if Trump was President. 

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    I’m old enough to remember when Kamala Harris said she wouldn’t take the vaccine if Trump was President. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Donald Trump takes full ownershipof the trump-vaccines!   "Joe Biden kept talking about how good of a job he's doing  on the distribution of the Vaccine that was developed by  Operation Warp Speed or, quite simply, the Trump Administration,"           trump said in a statement released via his Save America PAC on Sunday.

    Yes, because Covid-19 vaccines are very very effective and low risk. And here is the thing, Trump's own family is vaccinated, good for him and his family. Trump trusts the vaccines, so does his FDA commissioner, Scott Gottlieb. Gottlieb says 97% of the hospitalizations are in people who are unvaccinated and most of the deaths that are occurring right now are and people who are unvaccinated*. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-scott-gottlieb-on-face-the-nation-on-july-18-2021/

    Eventually, it comes down to the choice of protection through vaccination, or unvaccinated and infected with the Covid. Regardless, there might be some 20-30% never vaxxers in this country.  

     

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    Donald Trump takes full ownershipof the trump-vaccines!   "Joe Biden kept talking about how good of a job he's doing  on the distribution of the Vaccine that was developed by  Operation Warp Speed or, quite simply, the Trump Administration,"           trump said in a statement released via his Save America PAC on Sunday.

    Yes, because Covid-19 vaccines are very very effective and low risk. And here is the thing, Trump's own family is vaccinated, good for him and his family. Trump trusts the vaccines, so does his FDA commissioner, Scott Gottlieb. Gottlieb says 97% of the hospitalizations are in people who are unvaccinated and most of the deaths that are occurring right now are and people who are unvaccinated*. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-scott-gottlieb-on-face-the-nation-on-july-18-2021/

    Eventually, it comes down to the choice of protection through vaccination, or unvaccinated and infected with the Covid. Regardless, there might be some 20-30% never vaxxers in this country.  

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.   Israel reports that up to 50% infected are vaccinated people;   UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. 

    Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated.  The more vaccinated a population, the more we hear of cases, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccinated.  For example if population is 100% vaccinated, 100% of cases, deaths and hospitalizations would be from the vaccinated. 

    In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations.  Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated.   In both countries, weekly hospital admissions are a tiny fraction of their peaks in January.  Also number of covid deaths are far lower now.  Actually, Israel and UK provide evidences for effectiveness of vaccines.

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    Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.   Israel reports that up to 50% infected are vaccinated people;   UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. 

    Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated.  The more vaccinated a population, the more we hear of cases, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccinated.  For example if population is 100% vaccinated, 100% of cases, deaths and hospitalizations would be from the vaccinated. 

    In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations.  Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated.   In both countries, weekly hospital admissions are a tiny fraction of their peaks in January.  Also number of covid deaths are far lower now.  Actually, Israel and UK provide evidences for effectiveness of vaccines.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.   Israel reports that up to 50% infected are vaccinated people;   UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. 

     

     

    Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated. The more vaccinated a population, the more we hear of cases, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccinated. For example if population is 100% vaccinated, 100% of cases, deaths and hospitalizations would be from the vaccinated.

    In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations. Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated.

    As usual, your fact-checking-logic makes PERFECT SENSE, thirdperson! Keep up the great work! thumbs_up

    The trump-vaccines (the vaccines for which he continues to thsi day to DEMAND credit for) never were expected to provide 100% protection.

    Just like wearing seatbelts does not *GUARANTEE* you are 100% risk-free from death or injury in every collision.

    People die in collisons every week in the US while wearing seatbelts!!  Does this mean seatbelts are a bad thing?  Or, does it mean driving is a bad thing??  What MORON would believe either??? 

    The trump-vaccines are safe and effective, even though trump's "Operation Warp-Speed" did in fact *rush* both the availability and emergency approval of the vaccines TRUMP  demands full credit for.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Anti-vaxers misinterpret data to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.   Israel reports that up to 50% infected are vaccinated people;   UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. 

     

     

    Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated. The more vaccinated a population, the more we hear of cases, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccinated. For example if population is 100% vaccinated, 100% of cases, deaths and hospitalizations would be from the vaccinated.

    In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations. Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated.

    As usual, your fact-checking-logic makes PERFECT SENSE, thirdperson! Keep up the great work! thumbs_up

    The trump-vaccines (the vaccines for which he continues to thsi day to DEMAND credit for) never were expected to provide 100% protection.

    Just like wearing seatbelts does not *GUARANTEE* you are 100% risk-free from death or injury in every collision.

    People die in collisons every week in the US while wearing seatbelts!!  Does this mean seatbelts are a bad thing?  Or, does it mean driving is a bad thing??  What MORON would believe either??? 

    The trump-vaccines are safe and effective, even though trump's "Operation Warp-Speed" did in fact *rush* both the availability and emergency approval of the vaccines TRUMP  demands full credit for.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !


    That means its working you bigot!

    Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal!

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    UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !


    That means its working you bigot!

    Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated.  The more vaccinated a population, the more we hear of cases, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccinated.  For example if population is 100% vaccinated, 100% of cases, deaths and hospitalizations would be from the vaccinated.  In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations.  Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated.   In both countries, weekly hospital admissions are a tiny fraction of their peaks in January.  Also number of covid deaths are far lower now.  Actually, Israel and UK provide evidences for effectiveness of vaccines.

    "Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated."

    I NEVER MADE THAT CLAIM. WHY RESPOND WITH THIS STATEMENT? It's a deflection.

    "In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations."

    MISINFORMATION, UK vaccination rate 54.2%, Israel 57.9%. FAR LARGER, 4.2 and 7.9%?? a false statement. 

    "Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated."

    Maybe true here now, but not overseas NOW. Delta variant will change those numbers as they did in UK and Israel, CDC knows this is coming. Anyone with a brain should know this is coming.

    "In both countries, weekly hospital admissions are a tiny fraction of their peaks in January."

    Show me the numbers. UK reported yesterday 60% of hospitalizations are unvaxed, so the 40%, vaxed. 54.2% of the population vaxed so you would hypothetically expect 45.8% unvaxed hospitalized and 54.2% vaxed hospitalized IF vaccine did nothing AT ALL. You gain 14% with vaccination, that's all according to these numbers. Do the math!!!

    "Also number of covid deaths are far lower now."

    According to the UK report on Delta variant deaths the overall death rate was a very low .13%. EXCEPT, those over 50 it was a full 1%, 1 in a hundred.

    I'm not anti vaccine, I'm anti-bullchit!!!! The vaccine does help. With older variants really helps. Not so much with Delta. The numbers are coming in from overseas and they're not good. To repeat 99,now 97% success is just fooling people. For college football leagues telling their athletes if most are vaccinated, no testing or masks, is bullchit. The dems from Texas just proved that. 

    Vaccines do help, there are side effects for some. That data is not given out. A Saginaw county Michigan boy just died in his sleep a couple of days after shot #2. Autopsy has been done, will not be released!! It happens, people have concerns. They are shamed rather than given factual information. Large cities like Detroit and St Louis are far behind in vax rates. (30's%) They have population densities of 4000 or more people per square mile yet rural counties with population densities of less than 50 per square mile are singled out daily. You know why. These large cities are superspreaders waiting to happen. When it does, white supremacy caused it. LOL 

    So stupid. 

     

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    Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated.  The more vaccinated a population, the more we hear of cases, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccinated.  For example if population is 100% vaccinated, 100% of cases, deaths and hospitalizations would be from the vaccinated.  In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations.  Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated.   In both countries, weekly hospital admissions are a tiny fraction of their peaks in January.  Also number of covid deaths are far lower now.  Actually, Israel and UK provide evidences for effectiveness of vaccines.

    "Fallacy to claim higher rates of covid infections, deaths and hospitalizations among the vaccinated."

    I NEVER MADE THAT CLAIM. WHY RESPOND WITH THIS STATEMENT? It's a deflection.

    "In Israel and UK, vaccinated populations are far larger than unvaccinated populations."

    MISINFORMATION, UK vaccination rate 54.2%, Israel 57.9%. FAR LARGER, 4.2 and 7.9%?? a false statement. 

    "Although rare, most covid deaths and hospitalizations are expected among the vaccinated."

    Maybe true here now, but not overseas NOW. Delta variant will change those numbers as they did in UK and Israel, CDC knows this is coming. Anyone with a brain should know this is coming.

    "In both countries, weekly hospital admissions are a tiny fraction of their peaks in January."

    Show me the numbers. UK reported yesterday 60% of hospitalizations are unvaxed, so the 40%, vaxed. 54.2% of the population vaxed so you would hypothetically expect 45.8% unvaxed hospitalized and 54.2% vaxed hospitalized IF vaccine did nothing AT ALL. You gain 14% with vaccination, that's all according to these numbers. Do the math!!!

    "Also number of covid deaths are far lower now."

    According to the UK report on Delta variant deaths the overall death rate was a very low .13%. EXCEPT, those over 50 it was a full 1%, 1 in a hundred.

    I'm not anti vaccine, I'm anti-bullchit!!!! The vaccine does help. With older variants really helps. Not so much with Delta. The numbers are coming in from overseas and they're not good. To repeat 99,now 97% success is just fooling people. For college football leagues telling their athletes if most are vaccinated, no testing or masks, is bullchit. The dems from Texas just proved that. 

    Vaccines do help, there are side effects for some. That data is not given out. A Saginaw county Michigan boy just died in his sleep a couple of days after shot #2. Autopsy has been done, will not be released!! It happens, people have concerns. They are shamed rather than given factual information. Large cities like Detroit and St Louis are far behind in vax rates. (30's%) They have population densities of 4000 or more people per square mile yet rural counties with population densities of less than 50 per square mile are singled out daily. You know why. These large cities are superspreaders waiting to happen. When it does, white supremacy caused it. LOL 

    So stupid. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzyme13:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !That means its working you bigot!Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal!

    Exactly, even with 58% of efficacy with two doses of vaccines beats unvaccinated portion, 42%. Let alone many other science sources indicate 97%+ efficacy of two doses against death.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !That means its working you bigot!Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal!

    Exactly, even with 58% of efficacy with two doses of vaccines beats unvaccinated portion, 42%. Let alone many other science sources indicate 97%+ efficacy of two doses against death.   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzyme13:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !That means its working you bigot!Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal!

    Name calling, like talking to a 4 year old. Everybody in the cult give him a thumbs up! an_roll_laugh

    Time will tell my friend. Vaccine does do good, not arguing that. 

    Let's revisit this thread in say, late November, and see what the numbers here in the U.S. are for the vaccinated vs unvaxed. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !That means its working you bigot!Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal!

    Name calling, like talking to a 4 year old. Everybody in the cult give him a thumbs up! an_roll_laugh

    Time will tell my friend. Vaccine does do good, not arguing that. 

    Let's revisit this thread in say, late November, and see what the numbers here in the U.S. are for the vaccinated vs unvaxed. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As usual, your fact-checking-logic makes PERFECT SENSE, thirdperson! Keep up the great work! thumbs_up

    The trump-vaccines (the vaccines for which he continues to thsi day to DEMAND credit for) never were expected to provide 100% protection.

    Just like wearing seatbelts does not *GUARANTEE* you are 100% risk-free from death or injury in every collision.

    People die in collisons every week in the US while wearing seatbelts!!  Does this mean seatbelts are a bad thing?  Or, does it mean driving is a bad thing??  What MORON would believe either??? 

    The trump-vaccines are safe and effective, even though trump's "Operation Warp-Speed" did in fact *rush* both the availability and emergency approval of the vaccines TRUMP  demands full credit for.

     

    rump vaccines thumbs_up

    rumps operation warp speed for rump vaccines thumbs_up

    rump and his entire crimefamily all vaccinated with rump vaccines after rump got very sick from covid infection

    rump still insisting he get praised  for rump vaccines he pushed to b approved early

     

     

     

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    As usual, your fact-checking-logic makes PERFECT SENSE, thirdperson! Keep up the great work! thumbs_up

    The trump-vaccines (the vaccines for which he continues to thsi day to DEMAND credit for) never were expected to provide 100% protection.

    Just like wearing seatbelts does not *GUARANTEE* you are 100% risk-free from death or injury in every collision.

    People die in collisons every week in the US while wearing seatbelts!!  Does this mean seatbelts are a bad thing?  Or, does it mean driving is a bad thing??  What MORON would believe either??? 

    The trump-vaccines are safe and effective, even though trump's "Operation Warp-Speed" did in fact *rush* both the availability and emergency approval of the vaccines TRUMP  demands full credit for.

     

    rump vaccines thumbs_up

    rumps operation warp speed for rump vaccines thumbs_up

    rump and his entire crimefamily all vaccinated with rump vaccines after rump got very sick from covid infection

    rump still insisting he get praised  for rump vaccines he pushed to b approved early

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Enzyme13: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !That means its working you bigot!Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal! Name calling, like talking to a 4 year old. Everybody in the cult give him a thumbs up!  Time will tell my friend. Vaccine does do good, not arguing that.  Let's revisit this thread in say, late November, and see what the numbers here in the U.S. are for the vaccinated vs unvaxed.
    I was actually being sarcastic lol. 42% or 58%, whatever the case,  is absolutely horrible efficacy lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzyme13: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: UK reported earlier this month that 42% of Delta variant deaths were those with both doses of vaccine. !That means its working you bigot!Just 2 more booster shots and we can go back to normal! Name calling, like talking to a 4 year old. Everybody in the cult give him a thumbs up!  Time will tell my friend. Vaccine does do good, not arguing that.  Let's revisit this thread in say, late November, and see what the numbers here in the U.S. are for the vaccinated vs unvaxed.
    I was actually being sarcastic lol. 42% or 58%, whatever the case,  is absolutely horrible efficacy lmao

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2021 - 2:31 PM ET #2624

    Since everyone has the statistics, I'd like to know, of the covid deaths, how many are elderly, have underlying conditions, and/or are obese? Why doesn't the media break down the stats?

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    Since everyone has the statistics, I'd like to know, of the covid deaths, how many are elderly, have underlying conditions, and/or are obese? Why doesn't the media break down the stats?

     
     
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    Literal 99.95% survival rate in the CDC statistics 

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    Literal 99.95% survival rate in the CDC statistics 

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