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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 12:36 PM ET #1276

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) praising his own response to the pandemic in May 20... Unfortunately, Florida now has the nation's highest new Covid-19 infection yesterday, at 10,109 cases. Do your job Mr. DeSantis, don't just rebuke media too early too soon. Mandating face mask in public and social distancing, these ordinances save lives. Florida smirked at New York’s virus crisis. Now it has its own. In late April, as new coronavirus cases in Florida were steadily decreasing, Gov. Ron DeSantis began crowing how his state had tamed the pandemic. He (Gov.DeSantis) credited his decision to impose a state-specific quarantine on New York, then the epicenter of the nation’s outbreak. The move earned him praise in the White House and the ire of Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York. https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-florida-new-york-coronavirus-20200627-i6tb4iekfbf3xixde7zr6k6sqi-story.html Florida shatters record with near 11,500 new Covid-19 cases on 7/4, it's very bad. whatever happened to that woman in florida who was fired by desantis for refusing to fugde the numbers down?

    I believe she starts up her own FL health stat or data related to Covid-19 cases firm. Ironically, a stuff was forced out by rendering the fact under her job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) praising his own response to the pandemic in May 20... Unfortunately, Florida now has the nation's highest new Covid-19 infection yesterday, at 10,109 cases. Do your job Mr. DeSantis, don't just rebuke media too early too soon. Mandating face mask in public and social distancing, these ordinances save lives. Florida smirked at New York’s virus crisis. Now it has its own. In late April, as new coronavirus cases in Florida were steadily decreasing, Gov. Ron DeSantis began crowing how his state had tamed the pandemic. He (Gov.DeSantis) credited his decision to impose a state-specific quarantine on New York, then the epicenter of the nation’s outbreak. The move earned him praise in the White House and the ire of Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York. https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-florida-new-york-coronavirus-20200627-i6tb4iekfbf3xixde7zr6k6sqi-story.html Florida shatters record with near 11,500 new Covid-19 cases on 7/4, it's very bad. whatever happened to that woman in florida who was fired by desantis for refusing to fugde the numbers down?

    I believe she starts up her own FL health stat or data related to Covid-19 cases firm. Ironically, a stuff was forced out by rendering the fact under her job.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 1:58 PM ET #1277

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Comments from good article online.  Some make some good points.  There is a good point to being made — again — about building up the herd immunity.  That is why in many places there is a big push to get the kids back to school in the late summer.   More and more — it looks like this has been here since way before originally thought.   So, now when you force people home — before immunity can be established — then let them back out, there will be more outbreaks.  People still have not built up immunity.  But as with all of these things it will weaken over time as folks build the needed immunity.  So, you are seeing it become less fatal now.  The fatality rate now is nowhere near where it first had been predicted.   We know the target group.  We should protect them and let the others have some exposure as this subsides.
    sir not to break your train of thought but as Molly asked not so long ago... How does any of this get us some money? Pm me if you feel the need...

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    Comments from good article online.  Some make some good points.  There is a good point to being made — again — about building up the herd immunity.  That is why in many places there is a big push to get the kids back to school in the late summer.   More and more — it looks like this has been here since way before originally thought.   So, now when you force people home — before immunity can be established — then let them back out, there will be more outbreaks.  People still have not built up immunity.  But as with all of these things it will weaken over time as folks build the needed immunity.  So, you are seeing it become less fatal now.  The fatality rate now is nowhere near where it first had been predicted.   We know the target group.  We should protect them and let the others have some exposure as this subsides.
    sir not to break your train of thought but as Molly asked not so long ago... How does any of this get us some money? Pm me if you feel the need...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 2:38 PM ET #1278

    Without evidence, Trump falsely claims 99% of coronavirus cases are totally harmless as he continues to contradict public health experts.  According to Food drug administration, 60% of infected people show symptoms.  10-15% of them develop pneumonia and 2-5% are hospitalized.  Some patients suffer long term effects such as blood clotting, neurological impairment, damage to heart and lung according to Yale school of medicine.

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    Without evidence, Trump falsely claims 99% of coronavirus cases are totally harmless as he continues to contradict public health experts.  According to Food drug administration, 60% of infected people show symptoms.  10-15% of them develop pneumonia and 2-5% are hospitalized.  Some patients suffer long term effects such as blood clotting, neurological impairment, damage to heart and lung according to Yale school of medicine.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 2:57 PM ET #1279

    This whay divided him from the Republican party. Most governor's down to his VP. Says use common sense a put on a mask in public.

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    This whay divided him from the Republican party. Most governor's down to his VP. Says use common sense a put on a mask in public.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 3:00 PM ET #1280

    True dat Stu!!!

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    True dat Stu!!!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 3:00 PM ET #1281

    Don't drink Clorox. And be good to yourself.

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    Don't drink Clorox. And be good to yourself.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 6:54 PM ET #1282

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    whatever happened to that woman in florida who was fired by desantis for refusing to fugde the numbers down?

    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/876584284/fired-florida-data-scientist-launches-a-coronavirus-dashboard-of-her-own

     

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press

     

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-03/fired-coronavirus-doctor

     

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/ex-st-louis-hospital-ceo-says-he-was-fired-for-proactive-coronavirus-response.html

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/business/coronavirus-health-workers-speak-out.html

     

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    whatever happened to that woman in florida who was fired by desantis for refusing to fugde the numbers down?

    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/876584284/fired-florida-data-scientist-launches-a-coronavirus-dashboard-of-her-own

     

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press

     

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-03/fired-coronavirus-doctor

     

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/ex-st-louis-hospital-ceo-says-he-was-fired-for-proactive-coronavirus-response.html

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/business/coronavirus-health-workers-speak-out.html

     

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2020 - 6:57 PM ET #1283

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Comments from good article online.  Some make some good points.  There is a good point to being made — again — about building up the herd immunity.  That is why in many places there is a big push to get the kids back to school in the late summer.   More and more — it looks like this has been here since way before originally thought.   So, now when you force people home — before immunity can be established — then let them back out, there will be more outbreaks.  People still have not built up immunity.  But as with all of these things it will weaken over time as folks build the needed immunity.  So, you are seeing it become less fatal now.  The fatality rate now is nowhere near where it first had been predicted.   We know the target group.  We should protect them and let the others have some exposure as this subsides. sir not to break your train of thought but as Molly asked not so long ago... How does any of this get us some money? Pm me if you feel the need...

    There are some things to look at.  There are some online blogs and forums where some folks are trying to take ‘advantage’ of this.  

    Even over here in the investment forum a guy has some insight into a PPE stock that is worth looking at. 

    In any situation there will be opportunists looking for spots to make money. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Comments from good article online.  Some make some good points.  There is a good point to being made — again — about building up the herd immunity.  That is why in many places there is a big push to get the kids back to school in the late summer.   More and more — it looks like this has been here since way before originally thought.   So, now when you force people home — before immunity can be established — then let them back out, there will be more outbreaks.  People still have not built up immunity.  But as with all of these things it will weaken over time as folks build the needed immunity.  So, you are seeing it become less fatal now.  The fatality rate now is nowhere near where it first had been predicted.   We know the target group.  We should protect them and let the others have some exposure as this subsides. sir not to break your train of thought but as Molly asked not so long ago... How does any of this get us some money? Pm me if you feel the need...

    There are some things to look at.  There are some online blogs and forums where some folks are trying to take ‘advantage’ of this.  

    Even over here in the investment forum a guy has some insight into a PPE stock that is worth looking at. 

    In any situation there will be opportunists looking for spots to make money. an_light

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2020 - 12:27 AM ET #1284

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Don't drink Clorox. And be good to yourself.

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    Don't drink Clorox. And be good to yourself.

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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2020 - 1:53 PM ET #1285

    Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible. 

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    Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible. 

     
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    Dr. Bime noted that as the infection worsens, there are unique attributes in the imaging that distinguish COVID-19 from other respiratory infections. “CT scans of patients’ lungs show patches of swelling and fluid in the lung tissue. The fluid is less dense than in other infections, resulting in a ‘ground glass’ appearance which we have found to be a tell-tale sign of COVID-19.” This pattern is recognized as common in patients, however, the “ground glass” imaging is not requisite to a diagnosis of COVID-19.

    The inflammation of the lung tissue causes the air sacs to fill up with fluid and makes the lung stiff and less elastic. Dr. Bime described the lungs ability to take in air as if it were a sponge. As the tissue fills with fluid, their ability to expand and contract is inhibited. Air capacity is diminished, and many patients work harder to breathe. Severe cases can require oxygen support and even respirators to keep the lungs functioning.

    Long-Term Effects of COVID-19
    With less than a year of cases, identifying the long-term effects of COVID-19 can feel a little bit like predicting the future. However, Dr. Bime emphasized that this coronavirus causes a well-known syndrome known as Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS). In ARDS fluid builds up in the tiny air sacs of the lung called alveoli, limiting the ability to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen. Dr. Bime explained that people who have recovered from ARDS may deal with:

    Limited lung capacity compared to their peers.
    Psychiatric issues such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), depression, cognitive impairment, and anxiety, due to the trauma of the illness and treatment.
    Kidney complications which could lead to a need for long-term dialysis.
    Poor conditioning due to limited lung and/or organ function.
    The areas of “ground glass” in CT scans of COVID-19 patients show where damage may be accumulating. Damage to lung tissue often results in scarring, which can limit the elasticity of the lung and decrease its function even after the initial damage has passed. “The body has an amazing way of healing and each patient is unique,” said Dr. Bime. “In some cases, scarring can partially heal, returning functionality to damaged lungs.”

    While COVID-19-associated ARDS shares a lot with “traditional” ARDS, we are watching for unique long-term effects for victims of the pandemic. Dr. Bime reassured us that “while it is possible, there is no evidence that recovering from COVID-19 makes you more susceptible to lung cancer and other serious conditions."

    Every Moment Counts
    Dr. Bime explained, “The virus replicates within infected cells, multiplying quickly until cells burst. It doesn’t take long for the virus to spread. Every moment counts. Early diagnosis could be the key to decreasing your risk and the potential for long-term lung damage.” If you feel that you may be experiencing symptoms related to COVID-19, please call Banner Health to get tested.

    This is a real Dr opinion not a paid professional pushing propaganda.

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    Dr. Bime noted that as the infection worsens, there are unique attributes in the imaging that distinguish COVID-19 from other respiratory infections. “CT scans of patients’ lungs show patches of swelling and fluid in the lung tissue. The fluid is less dense than in other infections, resulting in a ‘ground glass’ appearance which we have found to be a tell-tale sign of COVID-19.” This pattern is recognized as common in patients, however, the “ground glass” imaging is not requisite to a diagnosis of COVID-19.

    The inflammation of the lung tissue causes the air sacs to fill up with fluid and makes the lung stiff and less elastic. Dr. Bime described the lungs ability to take in air as if it were a sponge. As the tissue fills with fluid, their ability to expand and contract is inhibited. Air capacity is diminished, and many patients work harder to breathe. Severe cases can require oxygen support and even respirators to keep the lungs functioning.

    Long-Term Effects of COVID-19
    With less than a year of cases, identifying the long-term effects of COVID-19 can feel a little bit like predicting the future. However, Dr. Bime emphasized that this coronavirus causes a well-known syndrome known as Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS). In ARDS fluid builds up in the tiny air sacs of the lung called alveoli, limiting the ability to exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen. Dr. Bime explained that people who have recovered from ARDS may deal with:

    Limited lung capacity compared to their peers.
    Psychiatric issues such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), depression, cognitive impairment, and anxiety, due to the trauma of the illness and treatment.
    Kidney complications which could lead to a need for long-term dialysis.
    Poor conditioning due to limited lung and/or organ function.
    The areas of “ground glass” in CT scans of COVID-19 patients show where damage may be accumulating. Damage to lung tissue often results in scarring, which can limit the elasticity of the lung and decrease its function even after the initial damage has passed. “The body has an amazing way of healing and each patient is unique,” said Dr. Bime. “In some cases, scarring can partially heal, returning functionality to damaged lungs.”

    While COVID-19-associated ARDS shares a lot with “traditional” ARDS, we are watching for unique long-term effects for victims of the pandemic. Dr. Bime reassured us that “while it is possible, there is no evidence that recovering from COVID-19 makes you more susceptible to lung cancer and other serious conditions."

    Every Moment Counts
    Dr. Bime explained, “The virus replicates within infected cells, multiplying quickly until cells burst. It doesn’t take long for the virus to spread. Every moment counts. Early diagnosis could be the key to decreasing your risk and the potential for long-term lung damage.” If you feel that you may be experiencing symptoms related to COVID-19, please call Banner Health to get tested.

    This is a real Dr opinion not a paid professional pushing propaganda.

     
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    Remdesiver is the only FDA approved drug to destroy corona.

    Moderna reported Reuters they would be on schedual if the FDA would stop interfering with the conduct of the study.

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    Moderna reported Reuters they would be on schedual if the FDA would stop interfering with the conduct of the study.

     
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    Trump States he wants schools open.

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    As the United States accelerates the search for a coronavirus vaccine, tensions have erupted between government scientists and Moderna Inc, one of the leading developers, Reuters has learned.

    The federal government is supporting Moderna’s vaccine project with nearly half a billion dollars and has chosen it as one of the first to enter large-scale human trials.

    But the company - which has never produced an approved vaccine or run a large trial - has squabbled with government scientists over the process, delayed delivering trial protocols and resisted experts’ advice on how to run the study, according to three sources familiar with the vaccine project. The sources said those tensions, which have not been previously reported, have contributed to a delay of more than two weeks in launching the trial of the Moderna’s vaccine candidate, now expected in late July.

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    The federal government is supporting Moderna’s vaccine project with nearly half a billion dollars and has chosen it as one of the first to enter large-scale human trials.

    But the company - which has never produced an approved vaccine or run a large trial - has squabbled with government scientists over the process, delayed delivering trial protocols and resisted experts’ advice on how to run the study, according to three sources familiar with the vaccine project. The sources said those tensions, which have not been previously reported, have contributed to a delay of more than two weeks in launching the trial of the Moderna’s vaccine candidate, now expected in late July.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.
    well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil

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    Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.
    well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil

     
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    I've had this discussion with my son & daughter.

    Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe. 

    The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being. 

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    I've had this discussion with my son & daughter.

    Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe. 

    The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being. 

     
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    The Trump administration has officially notified the United Nations of its withdrawal from the World Health Organization, a White House official said Tuesday.

    That notice of withdrawal was submitted to the U.N. secretary general. Congress was also notified of the United States' official withdrawal from the international health agency,

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    That notice of withdrawal was submitted to the U.N. secretary general. Congress was also notified of the United States' official withdrawal from the international health agency,

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    The Trump administration has officially notified the United Nations of its withdrawal from the World Health Organization, a White House official said Tuesday. That notice of withdrawal was submitted to the U.N. secretary general. Congress was also notified of the United States' official withdrawal from the international health agency,

    Just one minor problem...withdrawal comes with a 1 year notice to the WHO before leaving.

    Your boy won't be around to see this to fruition.

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    The Trump administration has officially notified the United Nations of its withdrawal from the World Health Organization, a White House official said Tuesday. That notice of withdrawal was submitted to the U.N. secretary general. Congress was also notified of the United States' official withdrawal from the international health agency,

    Just one minor problem...withdrawal comes with a 1 year notice to the WHO before leaving.

    Your boy won't be around to see this to fruition.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I've had this discussion with my son & daughter. Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe.  The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being.

    But THEY tell you it is unsafe and you believe them. So why would you not believe them when they say IT is safe? confused

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    I've had this discussion with my son & daughter. Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe.  The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being.

    But THEY tell you it is unsafe and you believe them. So why would you not believe them when they say IT is safe? confused

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil

    Texas is as bad as Florida in terms of Covid-19 infection cases, however there are two different measures between these two Republican governors. 

    In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis, like (Greg) Abbott (Texas, Gov.), has encouraged masks and social distancing. But unlike Abbott, he has refused to issue a statewide mandate, insisting that new action isn't necessary. He has wiped out funding for coronavirus treatment in prisons and for online learning services, while insisting schools will reopen in the fall. And he is downplaying the spike in cases in his state, saying that those contracting the virus are younger.

    "There's no need to be fearful," DeSantis said Monday.--CNN

    Gov. Abbott has deemed cautious and respectful guidance toward Covid-19, but DeSantis appears trying to neglect and bully this virus.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil

    Texas is as bad as Florida in terms of Covid-19 infection cases, however there are two different measures between these two Republican governors. 

    In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis, like (Greg) Abbott (Texas, Gov.), has encouraged masks and social distancing. But unlike Abbott, he has refused to issue a statewide mandate, insisting that new action isn't necessary. He has wiped out funding for coronavirus treatment in prisons and for online learning services, while insisting schools will reopen in the fall. And he is downplaying the spike in cases in his state, saying that those contracting the virus are younger.

    "There's no need to be fearful," DeSantis said Monday.--CNN

    Gov. Abbott has deemed cautious and respectful guidance toward Covid-19, but DeSantis appears trying to neglect and bully this virus.   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I've had this discussion with my son & daughter. Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe.  The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being.

    Back to school in-class instruction is potentially the mega Covid-19 spreader. Americans need to be vigilant, and listen to the medical professionals guidance NOT Mr. Donald J Trump.

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    I've had this discussion with my son & daughter. Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe.  The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being.

    Back to school in-class instruction is potentially the mega Covid-19 spreader. Americans need to be vigilant, and listen to the medical professionals guidance NOT Mr. Donald J Trump.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: I've had this discussion with my son & daughter. Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe.  The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being. But THEY tell you it is unsafe and you believe them. So why would you not believe them when they say IT is safe?

    I can see it is unsafe with my own eyes. I see Florida has serious problems controlling the spread.

    THEY said is was safe & a number of states reopened to early & are suffering the consequences now.

    I'll listen to doctors before politicians any day of the week. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: I've had this discussion with my son & daughter. Their children, my grandchildren, are not going back to school until WE believe it's safe to do so and not some farking politician telling us it's safe.  The online classes have worked fine & I believe our parish will continue using this method of learning for the time being. But THEY tell you it is unsafe and you believe them. So why would you not believe them when they say IT is safe?

    I can see it is unsafe with my own eyes. I see Florida has serious problems controlling the spread.

    THEY said is was safe & a number of states reopened to early & are suffering the consequences now.

    I'll listen to doctors before politicians any day of the week. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil Texas is as bad as Florida in terms of Covid-19 infection cases, however there are two different measures between these two Republican governors.  In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis, like (Greg) Abbott (Texas, Gov.), has encouraged masks and social distancing. But unlike Abbott, he has refused to issue a statewide mandate, insisting that new action isn't necessary. He has wiped out funding for coronavirus treatment in prisons and for online learning services, while insisting schools will reopen in the fall. And he is downplaying the spike in cases in his state, saying that those contracting the virus are younger. "There's no need to be fearful," DeSantis said Monday.--CNN Gov. Abbott has deemed cautious and respectful guidance toward Covid-19, but DeSantis appears trying to neglect and bully this virus.

    56 florida hospitals are overwhelmed and exceeding capacity due to corona

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil Texas is as bad as Florida in terms of Covid-19 infection cases, however there are two different measures between these two Republican governors.  In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis, like (Greg) Abbott (Texas, Gov.), has encouraged masks and social distancing. But unlike Abbott, he has refused to issue a statewide mandate, insisting that new action isn't necessary. He has wiped out funding for coronavirus treatment in prisons and for online learning services, while insisting schools will reopen in the fall. And he is downplaying the spike in cases in his state, saying that those contracting the virus are younger. "There's no need to be fearful," DeSantis said Monday.--CNN Gov. Abbott has deemed cautious and respectful guidance toward Covid-19, but DeSantis appears trying to neglect and bully this virus.

    56 florida hospitals are overwhelmed and exceeding capacity due to corona

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I see Florida has serious problems controlling the spread. THEY said is was safe & a number of states reopened to early & are suffering the consequences now. I'll listen to doctors before politicians any day of the week.

    Right you are, Midnight1 thumbs_up

    FLORIDA, TEXAS, ARIZONA - all republican early open states - are suffering the WORST right now, by far!

    I read theat Houston (4th largest US city) has just imposed a mandatory face mask bylaw.  Atlanta too.  Both huge cities in states run by Republican governors.  Abbott (Texas) at least, as learned as is apologetic to some degree.

     

     

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    I see Florida has serious problems controlling the spread. THEY said is was safe & a number of states reopened to early & are suffering the consequences now. I'll listen to doctors before politicians any day of the week.

    Right you are, Midnight1 thumbs_up

    FLORIDA, TEXAS, ARIZONA - all republican early open states - are suffering the WORST right now, by far!

    I read theat Houston (4th largest US city) has just imposed a mandatory face mask bylaw.  Atlanta too.  Both huge cities in states run by Republican governors.  Abbott (Texas) at least, as learned as is apologetic to some degree.

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil Texas is as bad as Florida in terms of Covid-19 infection cases, however there are two different measures between these two Republican governors.  In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis, like (Greg) Abbott (Texas, Gov.), has encouraged masks and social distancing. But unlike Abbott, he has refused to issue a statewide mandate, insisting that new action isn't necessary. He has wiped out funding for coronavirus treatment in prisons and for online learning services, while insisting schools will reopen in the fall. And he is downplaying the spike in cases in his state, saying that those contracting the virus are younger. "There's no need to be fearful," DeSantis said Monday.--CNN Gov. Abbott has deemed cautious and respectful guidance toward Covid-19, but DeSantis appears trying to neglect and bully this virus. 56 florida hospitals are overwhelmed and exceeding capacity due to corona

    US has over 58,000 new Covid-19 cases today. Sadly, United States is the worst Covid-19 infected and death cases in the world, followed by Brazil and Russia. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Over the pass 72 hours, Florida has now surpassed any state in this country on the Covid-19 infection case, at 27,853. Florida is trending in the wrong direction against Covid pandemic, Governor DeSantis is sitting on the hot seat under his leadership. Not sure what's up his agenda, just go on and apply the ordinance of wearing mask, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation. It would mitigate the spread and save lives, but he just refuses to do it, mind boggling and incomprehensible.well hes republican trying to look loyal to the devil Texas is as bad as Florida in terms of Covid-19 infection cases, however there are two different measures between these two Republican governors.  In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis, like (Greg) Abbott (Texas, Gov.), has encouraged masks and social distancing. But unlike Abbott, he has refused to issue a statewide mandate, insisting that new action isn't necessary. He has wiped out funding for coronavirus treatment in prisons and for online learning services, while insisting schools will reopen in the fall. And he is downplaying the spike in cases in his state, saying that those contracting the virus are younger. "There's no need to be fearful," DeSantis said Monday.--CNN Gov. Abbott has deemed cautious and respectful guidance toward Covid-19, but DeSantis appears trying to neglect and bully this virus. 56 florida hospitals are overwhelmed and exceeding capacity due to corona

    US has over 58,000 new Covid-19 cases today. Sadly, United States is the worst Covid-19 infected and death cases in the world, followed by Brazil and Russia. 

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