Covid-19 Good And Bad

Ideological stupidity makes people hate, so unfortunately. 

Kind, it's the word. 

Pay attention to the rest of the thread and what it is in response to.  You have to stay caught up in these threads or you will continue to be left behind! 

Obviously, it is not a serious reply.  It is a retort to Midnight saying that Republican states are not testing as much as Democratic states — quite true.  

I simply pointed out that the outbreaks started there, they have more cases, and have more tests being done.  Quite obviously, the states hardest, and earliest, hit will be testing more!  He just wanted to bash on Republican states.  I am sure they see the other states being hit and are doing what they feel is best!  

Then Thirdperson jumped in and said I was implying that coronavirus was picking and choosing democrats.  He wanted to point out that the coronavirus was not picky by party affiliation.  

So, I was pointing out to him that the testing is NOT preventing the breakouts.  Quite obviously, the virus does NOT care what party a person is.  

My points were the testing is being done more where more breakouts are — the other states that are not that bad may have decided as much testing is not needed, at least yet.  Maybe they have done a better job containing it at earlier stages!

Of course they are NOT dying from the testing!  That is my whole point to them — because it does not PREVENT the person from getting it — they either have it or they don’t by then.  The TESTING is for treatment and to isolate the person and to inform their contacts.  

BUT it is not a foolproof and only answer as these guys want to imply — just so they can turn this into a Democrat vs. Republican thing.  That is why I gave them the snide reply.  Because if testing is the MOST important thing to do, as they both seem to imply, then why DO those states that are doing the most testing have the most cases and deaths?  The answer is there is no correlation at all!

See...that is what happens when you read/see something in a box.  

By now you know I am not the type of person to give a sick reply like that.  You have to see it in context.  Sometimes you have to get the point across by being blunt and showing someone how ridiculous it is at a time like this to nitpick and constantly turn everything into a political bias. 

i don’t think it is their ideological stupidity.  I think they just feel strongly about their ideologies.  But they just don’t have open-minded views of things.  I don’t think those guys hate — they just have strong convictions.  Well...maybe they do hate Trump a little. 

It seems that strict confinement in Italy starts to bear fruit. 

The curve of death rate in Italy from Covid-19 appears to start to flat out! 

Information source: Bloomber.com 

Prisons in Alabama may be the next virus hotspot. I don't know of any state that's prepared.

I haven't been real fond of millennials but they are doing some amazing things with technology and 3-D printing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=5pIMD1enwd4&feature=emb_logo

If link does not work:   You Tube/Title as follows:...More good news? Citizen reporters go & do what the medea won't.

I'm hearing of many deaths for all causes being marked as Covid.

I don't know personally what's going on....just putting this out there for thought. 

You Tube: Title: More good News? Citizen reporters go and do what the media won't

Stunning bombshell plea from Dr Kyle Sidell, NYC ICE doctor. Covid 19 is a condition of oxygen deprivation, not pneumonia.

Ventilators may be causing the lung damage, not the virus.

Dr Sidell has posted 2 videos on YouTube. He is pleading with medical practitioners to recognize that Covid 19 is not a pneumonia like disease but an oxygen deprivation condition.

The bombshell article is on the front page of Dave Hodges The Common Show. It is written by Mike Adam's of Natural News. Both of Dr Sidell's videos are posted in the article.

If I come down with the Chinese virus from Wuhan. I will tell my doc and RN that I do not need a ventilator. Just get me 5 days of hydroxichloroquine, a Zpac and a 6 pack of Sam Adam's for each of the next 5 days. Also. Make sure my remote is working properly. Do not wake me up in the middle of the night. It can wait till the morning.

Midnight — 

You guys trying to burn the rental cars up so nobody can drive around there I see. 

Wow— how did that fire start?  I just saw headlines and a couple pics!!

 hydroxichloroquine is the cure.... India is going to keep their whole supply for their own country.....No exporting....FDA should approve it next week for cor=19...game over.  Why are Dem Gov's trying to stop its use?

Drug companies/deep state wants to push for a vaccine for the $$'s.... Billions of dollars and years of testing are needed for a new drug to come out....The money is in vaccines for these drug companies.  They can bypass so much time and testing and save Billions with vaccines.

Spain's death rate from Covid-19 seems also flattening out. That's very encouraging!  

Prime Minister of the UK, Boris Johnson was rushed to a hospital yesterday. Rumors abound he was placed on a ventilator. His office has yet to confirm.

Meat of article:

Predicting the future is a tough racket. If people were any good at it, we’d all be multiple lottery winners. Since we aren’t, that’s a pretty good indication that we have the ability to guess what will happen, but possess no clairvoyance. That brings us to today, when the country and the world are shut down over what is expected to happen with the coronavirus. Like everything else, the predictions aren’t panning out. Were this just $2 wasted on a lottery ticket it wouldn’t matter. But are we hurting millions of people and spending trillions of dollars on nothing more than a hunch based on computer models that are wildly inaccurate?

There’s no question the coronavirus is deadly and dangerous, but is it going to kill hundreds of thousands in the US and millions around the world? We have no idea. All we have are guesses. But if you’re going to destroy the economy and severely restrict people’s lives, you’d better have some damn good information backing up your actions. There are questions about the computer models being used to impose just that.

One prominent model in the shutdown is from the University of Washington, from their Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), funded by Bill and Melinda Gates. How closely does what they predicted track with reality so far? Turns out, not so well.

On April 4th, for example, the IHME model predicted there would be between 120,963 and 203,436 Americans requiring hospitalization, with the average of that range being 164,745. In reality, there were 18,998.

Before your jaw goes through the floor, it must be noted that not all states have reported their numbers, so the actual total is incomplete. The largest states have reported, so the missing numbers from places like Kansas or even Michigan will add to that total, but still will not get it anywhere near the projections.

That’s just hospitalizations, when it comes to intensive care beds, the difference between the projections and reality show an equally large gap. The average projected ICU beds needed on April 4th was 31,057; the reality was 4,686. That’s across the country, not just New York. Even after factoring in the caveats about missing states, that’s a miss akin to swinging and striking out on a pickoff to second base.

So what other models are federal and state authorities using that justify the actions they’ve taken? The simple, horrifying answer is we just don’t know. The government isn’t sharing their models and data with the public, which is odd.

Mitigation efforts like social distancing and the like may be a factor, but these models supposedly took that into consideration.

As of this writing, there are 7,810 deaths in the United States attributed to the pandemic. More than 7,000 Americans die every single day, on average, of everything. Over the course of this pandemic, this has amounted to a noticeable but still mild uptick above that average over the course of it. Add to that the directive from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to count any death tangentially related to COVID-19, and you have to wonder if that number actually holds. That directive reads, “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.” (The emphasis in bolding is theirs.) 

So what is going on? Where is the truth? Are we on the verge of a massive crush of cases and deaths, or are we destroying ourselves over the equivalent of tarot card reading gone wrong? I don’t know, but I do know we need answers and we need them now.

I think it was the AP who reported that people who pass away at home are not being tested to see if they had the virus thus are not being counted as the virus being the cause of death.

Bill Gates didnt go into the vaccine business for some joe blow to claim hydrochloro is the cure...theres no profit in that...plus theres no microchip factor with a cure...the pope wouldnt like that at all 

Bill Gates has made more money than he'll ever need & has dedicated his life to eliminate diseases no matter where they are.

At least 173 crew members of the USS Theodore Roosevelt have tested positive for coronavirus, and Trump’s acting Secretary of the Navy, Thomas Modly, is still attacking the ship’s commander who blew the whistle on the outbreak.

In an one on one interview Premier Ford say Ontario will run out of personal protective equipment for health care workers in one week. US stopped shipments from crossing the border yesterday.

Someone has to remind Trump what Canada did for the US on 9/11.

We shouldn't treat our allies like this.

Sweden stops treatment trial of the virus with Chloroquine after some patients got severe side-effects such as seizure and vision impairment.

I think it's a good time for Trump & Navarro to stop touting this until the FDA can approve/disapprove of the drug.

Trump continues to promote hydroxychloroquine as a cure for coronavirus against the advice of medical experts.  He asks, "what do you have to lose?"  There is alot to lose according to American medical association.  Possible risks of death and negative side effects.  No one should be promoting any drug to treat coronavirus that hasn't been proven to be safe and effective by Food and drug administration according to American pharmacists association.  Doctor Fauci says there is no strong evidence that hydroxychloroquine works against coronavirus.

When it comes to the point of taking medication, who are we going to listen and more importantly trust it to? Are we trusting a real estate developer and an economist, or we trust a medical doctor?  

It is a tricky spot.  The opposite question is should we trust our economy and livelihood and future to the medical community based on speculations and hypotheticals and unproven models?  For example:

“Our leaders still seem far more afraid of a virus that probably kills fewer than 1 percent of those infected than the prospect of a third of all Americans losing their jobs,”  “We don’t judge anyone for that … Still, this is a moment, it will pass. A year from now, what will seem scarier? The Chinese coronavirus or the economic devastation it wrought?”

In other words, when it comes to saving lives, it’s always more complicated than the Twitter blue-check masters-of-morality would have us believe. Some variation of ‘every death is one too many’ is the virtuous thing to say, and we’ve heard it a lot lately when it comes to coronavirus, especially when pretty much anyone in the medical field is interviewed on television. Thus, any state-enforced action, no matter how draconian, is deemed justifiable because it could ‘save a life’ from coronavirus. “Could,” because we can’t possibly know for sure how effective, say, not allowing people to get their pets groomed or keep their cleaning appointments with their dentists would be in stopping the spread. Everyone agrees that *something* had to be done, of course. The question is, did that *something* have to go as far as it has gone and continues to go? And why on earth does asking it make one somehow a ‘moral monster’?

Dr. Anthony Fauci that gave some, uh, insight on when this current shutdown madness might end: “When it goes down to essentially no new cases, no deaths.” Soooo, when might that be, good doctor? A month from now? Six months from now? He doesn’t know, and neither does anyone else. Is half of America going bankrupt - and all the suffering and deaths that would eventually entail - an acceptable cost to bring the coronavirus case count to zero?

Dr. Anthony Fauci that gave some, uh, insight on when this current shutdown madness might end: “When it goes down to essentially no new cases, no deaths.” Soooo, when might that be, good doctor? A month from now? Six months from now? He doesn’t know, and neither does anyone else. Is half of America going bankrupt - and all the suffering and deaths that would eventually entail - an acceptable cost to bring the coronavirus case count to zero?