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    Global warming :: is it just a 'chinese hoax' like trump told us or is it serious?

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    ColonelKlink
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 6:54 AM ET #526

    Has the media told you guys what strip mining is doing to the Earth?

    Have they told you about where your unicorns and rainbows come from and the children doing the dirty work in unsafe conditions?

    But, but, but...

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    Has the media told you guys what strip mining is doing to the Earth?

    Have they told you about where your unicorns and rainbows come from and the children doing the dirty work in unsafe conditions?

    But, but, but...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 10:41 AM ET #527

    Climate chamge has very little to do with Co2 emissions.

     

    It has to do with changes in the Earth's orbit and rotation that cause the Earth's climate to change over hundreds of thousands of years.

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iA788usYNWA&ab_channel=It%27sJustAstronomical%21

     

    If you think congress is going to stop the climate from warming you have mental problems.  Just try to be clean.  Congress and the government will never change the climate.

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    Climate chamge has very little to do with Co2 emissions.

     

    It has to do with changes in the Earth's orbit and rotation that cause the Earth's climate to change over hundreds of thousands of years.

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iA788usYNWA&ab_channel=It%27sJustAstronomical%21

     

    If you think congress is going to stop the climate from warming you have mental problems.  Just try to be clean.  Congress and the government will never change the climate.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 11:53 AM ET #528

    Guy makes too much sense, better discredit him and shut him up.

    https://rumble.com/v25x1rg-booom.html

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    Guy makes too much sense, better discredit him and shut him up.

    https://rumble.com/v25x1rg-booom.html

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 4:19 PM ET #529

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Science journal reveals that ExxonMobil knew that burning fossil fuels cause global warming decades ago.  Still, the company paid for propaganda campaigns to deny the truth and delay climate action.  Now there are lawsuits seeking to hold ExxonMobil accountable for damages from human-made climate change.

     

    of course they did        but business is business      be damned the people as long as we profit 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Science journal reveals that ExxonMobil knew that burning fossil fuels cause global warming decades ago.  Still, the company paid for propaganda campaigns to deny the truth and delay climate action.  Now there are lawsuits seeking to hold ExxonMobil accountable for damages from human-made climate change.

     

    of course they did        but business is business      be damned the people as long as we profit 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 4:28 PM ET #530

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    2023 climate change performance index compares 63 countries in greenhouse gas emissions, renewable energy, energy use and climate policy.  Top 5 countries include Denmark 4, Sweden 5, Chile 6,  Morocco 7 and India 8.  Near the bottom are Japan 50, China 51, US 52,

     

    sucks     thumbs_down     more must b done  

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    2023 climate change performance index compares 63 countries in greenhouse gas emissions, renewable energy, energy use and climate policy.  Top 5 countries include Denmark 4, Sweden 5, Chile 6,  Morocco 7 and India 8.  Near the bottom are Japan 50, China 51, US 52,

     

    sucks     thumbs_down     more must b done  

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 7:02 PM ET #531

    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:

    Climate change has very little to do with Co2 emissions.   It has to do with changes in the Earth's orbit and rotation that cause the Earth's climate to change over hundreds of thousands of years.  

    Current global warming cannot be explained by orbital changes of Earth.  In the last 10,000 years, decreasing solar radiation is reaching the Earth.  This should result in cooling and not warming.  Also climate change is too rapid for slow orbital changes occurring over thousands of years.  Only the greenhouse effect can explain current global warming.  Empirical evidence  of carbon dioxide from spectroscopy measuring spectrum of greenhouse radiation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:

    Climate change has very little to do with Co2 emissions.   It has to do with changes in the Earth's orbit and rotation that cause the Earth's climate to change over hundreds of thousands of years.  

    Current global warming cannot be explained by orbital changes of Earth.  In the last 10,000 years, decreasing solar radiation is reaching the Earth.  This should result in cooling and not warming.  Also climate change is too rapid for slow orbital changes occurring over thousands of years.  Only the greenhouse effect can explain current global warming.  Empirical evidence  of carbon dioxide from spectroscopy measuring spectrum of greenhouse radiation.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 7:19 PM ET #532

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Science journal reveals that ExxonMobil knew that burning fossil fuels cause global warming decades ago.  Still, the company paid for propaganda campaigns to deny the truth and delay climate action.  Now there are lawsuits seeking to hold ExxonMobil accountable for damages from human-made climate change.   of course they did        but business is business      be damned the people as long as we profit

     

    You didn't know?

    have you stopped using fossil fuels yet?

    Then STFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Science journal reveals that ExxonMobil knew that burning fossil fuels cause global warming decades ago.  Still, the company paid for propaganda campaigns to deny the truth and delay climate action.  Now there are lawsuits seeking to hold ExxonMobil accountable for damages from human-made climate change.   of course they did        but business is business      be damned the people as long as we profit

     

    You didn't know?

    have you stopped using fossil fuels yet?

    Then STFU

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 10:57 PM ET #533

    We have a serious conversation.

    When global warming begins thawing the swamp of tundras. In the northern hemisphere. Siberia Alaska Canada.

    The methane that is trapped in the glacier will begin to escape... The methane is a much more volitive and works as a lot better green house gas.

    Leaving the oceans with as much water as possible...the globe heats up exponential 

    Global warming isn't a can we stop this... It's only can we modify this . To rex tillerson it is a engineering problem.

    Not a preventative action. That ship sailed in the late 1990's.

     

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    We have a serious conversation.

    When global warming begins thawing the swamp of tundras. In the northern hemisphere. Siberia Alaska Canada.

    The methane that is trapped in the glacier will begin to escape... The methane is a much more volitive and works as a lot better green house gas.

    Leaving the oceans with as much water as possible...the globe heats up exponential 

    Global warming isn't a can we stop this... It's only can we modify this . To rex tillerson it is a engineering problem.

    Not a preventative action. That ship sailed in the late 1990's.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 10:59 PM ET #534

    His thoughts was a series of magma chambers that could spew volcanic dust into the atmosphere effectively cooling off the atmosphere and sending us possibly into a mini ice age...

    You really have to see what these guys are intending before it happens and we're dealing with the after math of an extended ice age...

     

     

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    His thoughts was a series of magma chambers that could spew volcanic dust into the atmosphere effectively cooling off the atmosphere and sending us possibly into a mini ice age...

    You really have to see what these guys are intending before it happens and we're dealing with the after math of an extended ice age...

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2023 - 11:20 AM ET #535

    Problem solved! French dairy giant Danone is going to put diapers and masks on cows to catch their methane! Brilliant! an_roll_laugh

    Now try this;

    Google "Danone cow diapers"  You will get Fox News and one other site referring to Fox News.

    Duckduckgo "Danone cow diapers" You will get a whole list of sites referring to this nonsense including Marketwatch, Phys.org, Yahoo, MSN, etc.

    So why doesn't Google want you to know this wasn't just Fox News? 

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    Problem solved! French dairy giant Danone is going to put diapers and masks on cows to catch their methane! Brilliant! an_roll_laugh

    Now try this;

    Google "Danone cow diapers"  You will get Fox News and one other site referring to Fox News.

    Duckduckgo "Danone cow diapers" You will get a whole list of sites referring to this nonsense including Marketwatch, Phys.org, Yahoo, MSN, etc.

    So why doesn't Google want you to know this wasn't just Fox News? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2023 - 12:40 PM ET #536

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough: Climate change has very little to do with Co2 emissions.   It has to do with changes in the Earth's orbit and rotation that cause the Earth's climate to change over hundreds of thousands of years.   Current global warming cannot be explained by orbital changes of Earth.  In the last 10,000 years, decreasing solar radiation is reaching the Earth.  This should result in cooling and not warming.  Also climate change is too rapid for slow orbital changes occurring over thousands of years.  Only the greenhouse effect can explain current global warming.  Empirical evidence  of carbon dioxide from spectroscopy measuring spectrum of greenhouse radiation.

    I read that 2022 was the fifth warmest in recorded history.  The other top 10 all in our lifetime  

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough: Climate change has very little to do with Co2 emissions.   It has to do with changes in the Earth's orbit and rotation that cause the Earth's climate to change over hundreds of thousands of years.   Current global warming cannot be explained by orbital changes of Earth.  In the last 10,000 years, decreasing solar radiation is reaching the Earth.  This should result in cooling and not warming.  Also climate change is too rapid for slow orbital changes occurring over thousands of years.  Only the greenhouse effect can explain current global warming.  Empirical evidence  of carbon dioxide from spectroscopy measuring spectrum of greenhouse radiation.

    I read that 2022 was the fifth warmest in recorded history.  The other top 10 all in our lifetime  

    an_beatup

     

     
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    Wind and solar surpass gas
    for European Union electricity!


    YAHOO NEWS -

    an_light Fossil fuel generation in the EU could plummet by 20% in 2023, according to a new report.

    Wind and solar power generated a record 22.3% of the European Union's electricity in 2022, topping the amount generated from gas (19.9%) for the first time, according to a report released Tuesday.

     

    The EU has been pursuing an aggressive transition away from gas and coal (which generated 15.5% of the trading bloc's electricity last year) in order to meet pledges to reduce greenhouse gas emissions causing climate change.

     

    an_light   The bloc has also been diversifying its energy sources in the wake of Russian oil and gas cuts stemming from Moscow's invasion of Ukraine that have caused prices to soar.

     

     

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    for European Union electricity!


    YAHOO NEWS -

    an_light Fossil fuel generation in the EU could plummet by 20% in 2023, according to a new report.

    Wind and solar power generated a record 22.3% of the European Union's electricity in 2022, topping the amount generated from gas (19.9%) for the first time, according to a report released Tuesday.

     

    The EU has been pursuing an aggressive transition away from gas and coal (which generated 15.5% of the trading bloc's electricity last year) in order to meet pledges to reduce greenhouse gas emissions causing climate change.

     

    an_light   The bloc has also been diversifying its energy sources in the wake of Russian oil and gas cuts stemming from Moscow's invasion of Ukraine that have caused prices to soar.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2023 - 4:07 PM ET #538

    This is the future.... well, the best version of what the future could be I guess.  Combination of wind, solar and nuclear power....

     

    https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/23/23567711/nuclear-energy-advanced-small-modular-reactor-design-certified

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    This is the future.... well, the best version of what the future could be I guess.  Combination of wind, solar and nuclear power....

     

    https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/23/23567711/nuclear-energy-advanced-small-modular-reactor-design-certified

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Wind and solar surpass gas for European Union electricity! YAHOO NEWS - Fossil fuel generation in the EU could plummet by 20% in 2023, according to a new report. Wind and solar power generated a record 22.3% of the European Union's electricity in 2022, topping the amount generated from gas (19.9%) for the first time, according to a report released Tuesday.   The EU has been pursuing an aggressive transition away from gas and coal (which generated 15.5% of the trading bloc's electricity last year) in order to meet pledges to reduce greenhouse gas emissions causing climate change.      The bloc has also been diversifying its energy sources in the wake of Russian oil and gas cuts stemming from Moscow's invasion of Ukraine that have caused prices to soar.

     

    priced soared not just there but indirectly all over the world  as a result of putins attack on ukraine

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Wind and solar surpass gas for European Union electricity! YAHOO NEWS - Fossil fuel generation in the EU could plummet by 20% in 2023, according to a new report. Wind and solar power generated a record 22.3% of the European Union's electricity in 2022, topping the amount generated from gas (19.9%) for the first time, according to a report released Tuesday.   The EU has been pursuing an aggressive transition away from gas and coal (which generated 15.5% of the trading bloc's electricity last year) in order to meet pledges to reduce greenhouse gas emissions causing climate change.      The bloc has also been diversifying its energy sources in the wake of Russian oil and gas cuts stemming from Moscow's invasion of Ukraine that have caused prices to soar.

     

    priced soared not just there but indirectly all over the world  as a result of putins attack on ukraine

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    from Media Matters

     

    Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign

     

    Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines.

    There is no evidence to back up those claims.

     

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    Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign

     

    Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines.

    There is no evidence to back up those claims.

     

     
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    from Media Matters   Fox News is  insinuating that deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are due to offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    Most dead whales are found along coasts with no wind farms. 40% of whale deaths are caused by ship strikes. For years, Fox news has been a major source of climate change misinformation according to Climate feedback network of scientists.

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    from Media Matters   Fox News is  insinuating that deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are due to offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    Most dead whales are found along coasts with no wind farms. 40% of whale deaths are caused by ship strikes. For years, Fox news has been a major source of climate change misinformation according to Climate feedback network of scientists.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    from Media Matters   Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign   Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    That figures.  Pretty much anything to denounce alternatives to conservatives love for pollution resulting from big oil.

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    from Media Matters   Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign   Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    That figures.  Pretty much anything to denounce alternatives to conservatives love for pollution resulting from big oil.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    from Media Matters   Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign   Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    Your post is terribly misleading. Not the development of offshore wind turbines rather the use of heavy sonar for surveys by wind farm developers. The whale deaths have been increasing since 2016 and oh look, same year sonar surveys began. CNN's headline of "It's not wind farm projects, experts say" is also very misleading as they quote "experts" saying they see no evidence to support a connection, they don't say no, its not the sonar. Seeing no evidence doesn't mean there isn't any.

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    Trevor Branch, professor at the University of Washington School of Aquatic and Fisheries Sciences, said Navy sonar has been linked to beaked whale strandings, but not right whales or other large whales. 

    "It's very unlikely but not impossible" that the link indicates that sounds from work for wind farms could cause larger whale deaths. "I'm not aware of any published research suggesting such a link," he said.

    The statement contains an element of truth, in that the deaths  coincide with preparation work for wind farms. But there is no evidence so far that the work caused the deaths.

     

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    from Media Matters   Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign   Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    Your post is terribly misleading. Not the development of offshore wind turbines rather the use of heavy sonar for surveys by wind farm developers. The whale deaths have been increasing since 2016 and oh look, same year sonar surveys began. CNN's headline of "It's not wind farm projects, experts say" is also very misleading as they quote "experts" saying they see no evidence to support a connection, they don't say no, its not the sonar. Seeing no evidence doesn't mean there isn't any.

    Politifact; 

    Trevor Branch, professor at the University of Washington School of Aquatic and Fisheries Sciences, said Navy sonar has been linked to beaked whale strandings, but not right whales or other large whales. 

    "It's very unlikely but not impossible" that the link indicates that sounds from work for wind farms could cause larger whale deaths. "I'm not aware of any published research suggesting such a link," he said.

    The statement contains an element of truth, in that the deaths  coincide with preparation work for wind farms. But there is no evidence so far that the work caused the deaths.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    from Media Matters   Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign   Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    strange they would do this    except maybe it is what they think all dems want

    clean energy to contribute toward saving the planet

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    from Media Matters   Fox News is rapidly escalating its anti-offshore wind campaign   Over the past several days Fox networks have aired numerous segments insinuating that the recent deaths of whales across New York and New Jersey beaches are "supposedly"due to the development of offshore wind turbines. There is no evidence to back up those claims.

    strange they would do this    except maybe it is what they think all dems want

    clean energy to contribute toward saving the planet

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Not the development of offshore wind turbines rather the use of heavy sonar for surveys by wind farm developers. The whale deaths have been increasing since sonar surveys began.

    Experts from National oceanic and atmospheric administration found no evidence that underwater sound emitted during survey work for the construction of wind farms is causing whale deaths.  Sonar isn't loud enough to endanger whales.  The main causes of deaths remain whales being struck by ships or becoming entangled in fishing nets.

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    Not the development of offshore wind turbines rather the use of heavy sonar for surveys by wind farm developers. The whale deaths have been increasing since sonar surveys began.

    Experts from National oceanic and atmospheric administration found no evidence that underwater sound emitted during survey work for the construction of wind farms is causing whale deaths.  Sonar isn't loud enough to endanger whales.  The main causes of deaths remain whales being struck by ships or becoming entangled in fishing nets.

     
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    In 2020, the Legislative Analyst’s Office, the nonpartisan fiscal and policy adviser to the California Legislature, issued a report stating that under a scenario of continued high greenhouse gas emissions, San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100.

    Question is what to do about it...

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    In 2020, the Legislative Analyst’s Office, the nonpartisan fiscal and policy adviser to the California Legislature, issued a report stating that under a scenario of continued high greenhouse gas emissions, San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100.

    Question is what to do about it...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Question is what to do about it...

     

    In San Francisco, tide marshes are restored to reduce the impact of storm surges and erosion.  There are various ways to adapt to sea level rise.  Flood barriers such as seawall or beach to protect property,  Build more parks to absorb water.  Relocate buildings inland.  Elevate homes and roads.  Restrict new construction in risky areas.  Upgrade sewer system.  Install storm water pumps. 

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    San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Question is what to do about it...

     

    In San Francisco, tide marshes are restored to reduce the impact of storm surges and erosion.  There are various ways to adapt to sea level rise.  Flood barriers such as seawall or beach to protect property,  Build more parks to absorb water.  Relocate buildings inland.  Elevate homes and roads.  Restrict new construction in risky areas.  Upgrade sewer system.  Install storm water pumps. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    In 2020, the Legislative Analyst’s Office, the nonpartisan fiscal and policy adviser to the California Legislature, issued a report stating that under a scenario of continued high greenhouse gas emissions, San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Question is what to do about it...

     

    What you do is stop listening to The Legislative Analyst's Office as most leading scientists predict no more than 16 inches increase in the next hundred years. NASA has the ice melting at about 9% per decade. In fact if you actually think for yourself, a novel concept I know, you can see that the sea level has risen 75 milimeters (3 inches) from 1900-1950. Then from 1950-2000 we see about an 70 milimeter rise and then from 2000-2019 there is about a 55 milimeter increase similar to the 1940-1960 increase of 50 milimeters.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

    The Washington Post; The first finds that the current ice losses, which are accelerating quickly, are on pace with the worst scenarios for sea-level rise put out by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). That expert body found that ice sheets could drive as much as 16 inches of sea-level rise by 2100.

    To say 7 feet is ridiculous and those saying so need to stop the misinformation.

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    In 2020, the Legislative Analyst’s Office, the nonpartisan fiscal and policy adviser to the California Legislature, issued a report stating that under a scenario of continued high greenhouse gas emissions, San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Question is what to do about it...

     

    What you do is stop listening to The Legislative Analyst's Office as most leading scientists predict no more than 16 inches increase in the next hundred years. NASA has the ice melting at about 9% per decade. In fact if you actually think for yourself, a novel concept I know, you can see that the sea level has risen 75 milimeters (3 inches) from 1900-1950. Then from 1950-2000 we see about an 70 milimeter rise and then from 2000-2019 there is about a 55 milimeter increase similar to the 1940-1960 increase of 50 milimeters.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

    The Washington Post; The first finds that the current ice losses, which are accelerating quickly, are on pace with the worst scenarios for sea-level rise put out by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). That expert body found that ice sheets could drive as much as 16 inches of sea-level rise by 2100.

    To say 7 feet is ridiculous and those saying so need to stop the misinformation.

     
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    Interesting when looking at NASA's carbon dioxide levels by thousands of years graph. Now why don't they just overlay the carbon levels since 1900 with the sea levels since 1900? Because it would not fit a narative. an_lightLooks like from 1900 to about 1925 carbon levels were still on a drop cycle and sea levels were steadly rising as were global temps. Then they blame dams for sea levels that remained mostly steady from the 1950's to 1990. In the same breath they compare todays increases to those years dams influence sea level rise. an_lightAnd notice global temperatures corolate with sea level very nicely, especially from 1950 to 1990. And of course absolutely no data on ice sheets from 1900-1960 and the same with ocean temps. With this data one could argue that dams caused the earth to cool and delayed global temps from rising. Too funny.

     

    Anybody with an eye towards actual science and not an agenda can see the manipulation here. There is much to be debated yet debate is not welcomed.

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    Interesting when looking at NASA's carbon dioxide levels by thousands of years graph. Now why don't they just overlay the carbon levels since 1900 with the sea levels since 1900? Because it would not fit a narative. an_lightLooks like from 1900 to about 1925 carbon levels were still on a drop cycle and sea levels were steadly rising as were global temps. Then they blame dams for sea levels that remained mostly steady from the 1950's to 1990. In the same breath they compare todays increases to those years dams influence sea level rise. an_lightAnd notice global temperatures corolate with sea level very nicely, especially from 1950 to 1990. And of course absolutely no data on ice sheets from 1900-1960 and the same with ocean temps. With this data one could argue that dams caused the earth to cool and delayed global temps from rising. Too funny.

     

    Anybody with an eye towards actual science and not an agenda can see the manipulation here. There is much to be debated yet debate is not welcomed.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Question is what to do about it...   In San Francisco, tide marshes are restored to reduce the impact of storm surges and erosion.  There are various ways to adapt to sea level rise.  Flood barriers such as seawall or beach to protect property,  Build more parks to absorb water.  Relocate buildings inland.  Elevate homes and roads.  Restrict new construction in risky areas.  Upgrade sewer system.  Install storm water pumps.

       They have a lot of work ahead of them.   Miami too!

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: San Francisco could see as much as 7 feet of sea level rise by 2100. Question is what to do about it...   In San Francisco, tide marshes are restored to reduce the impact of storm surges and erosion.  There are various ways to adapt to sea level rise.  Flood barriers such as seawall or beach to protect property,  Build more parks to absorb water.  Relocate buildings inland.  Elevate homes and roads.  Restrict new construction in risky areas.  Upgrade sewer system.  Install storm water pumps.

       They have a lot of work ahead of them.   Miami too!

     

     

     

     

     

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