you are entitled to your opinions . Let’s keep it proper and decent . Good luck . I know you can do it .
@wallstreetcappers
spot on correct ! 
rump owns much of the blame for the botch withdrawal anyway
but the biggest point is a certain political party administration dragged us into that hellhole at a yuge cost of american casualties and unbelievable financial costs too
and then they whine and bitch at how joe biden cleaned up THEIR mess ! 
@wallstreetcappers
@KellyM_1964
Yessir! .........THEIR mess which THEY created.
And given the chance to get out under trump, THEY DID NOT!
Finally, in only 8 months, Joe Biden got us the hell out!
Can Covers just rename this section DRAMA?
holy hell, been gone ten days off grid and 
This past week there was a two medal veteran at the beach I visited, who was shamed right in front of me for his MAG red hat. Had his grandkids with him just eating watermelon. All it took was a couple 5 minute conversations to realize that this man was ALL USA but doesn't view the either party the same as him, yet he sides with your enemy so it seems. As someone with a large family military background but myself with none I had nothing but respect for this man, did not matter to me if he was red/white/black/or blue but it is very obvious not just here but in real life matrix that even going to off grid cell area you still find people who SUCK!!
Try it sometime, to wonder what lunch and dinner will be tomorrow if it rains that night. Get out of that funk you have been sucked into
@THEMUGG
Emoticon reply aside, what is your intelligent response to the fact of Biden being on the hook for the exit which is two decades late and that no president wanted to make?
There is no victory parade exit for that region and there was not one for Iraq, so why the crap is your side taking a partisan stab at Biden when all sides failed to get the US out for over twenty years?
Was there a good way for things to end? I can tell you this the people living there, the US remnants still there it is not any different today than before since there was never a way to win from the very beginning.
What else do you have to add outside a useless emoticon response? What could have been done better and if you have a better scenario why did Trump or Bush not use it?
Mugg it’s best just to make a counterpoint . All these rolling faces just adds to the overall destruction of communication . Although I understand that a response is impossible . Which leads you down the road to choosing an emoji . Sordid little game going on in here .
Absolutely no discussion from either side so the reader can judge for himself what is what . I can’t get any information that can help lead me into a new school of thought when these types of measures are taken . Sad that conversation has to go this way .
It’s either antagonism or deafening silence and neither is a remedy towards my dilemma of needing to gain knowledge . Weird as hell in here . How do these things happen ?
@wallstreetcappers
Republicans pulled us into that crap and as you said neither of the three previous presidents pulled us out.
Until the fourth president did, Democrat Joe Biden.
As a result we are no longer throwing away $300 million per day taxpayer dollars!
@Zeus4par
I HIGHLY doubt Biden wanted to be stuck with this bag, it was a Trump gift that he couldnt avoid. No president could exit there and in truth we destroyed the region so we could win against the USSR and now for the last two plus decades we cant get out and the innocent people there have no infrastructure or hope.
I always liked the movie Charlie Wilson's war which is this exact quandry here where at the end of the show Wilson wanted funding for a school to be repaired that was destroyed during the military ops there and he was laughed out of the room...we are not interested in making things better we are interested in getting our military objective and nothing else. We destroyed Iraq, Bush put in as leadership the religious minority and now the entire country is going to kill each other and it will never improve. Biden was a lifer in politics if he wanted to do real good in the region he could have, he didnt and I am positive this was a noose around his neck that he wish he hadnt been forced into. Nice of Trump to load the noose for him though.
@wallstreetcappers
we are not interested in making things better we are interested in getting our military objective and nothing else. We destroyed Iraq, Bush put in as leadership the religious minority and now the entire country is going to kill each other and it will never improve.
"fax" as the kids say
End the forever wars.
I don’t think that we can end the forever wars . We can’t even get along in a gambling site’s political subforum . Human nature is too tricky and vile . It pits man against man . Seemingly for no other reason than “ survival . “
@wallstreetcappers
I agree, and I am glad it is over and our budget is not being burdened further by that ugly $300 million per day in costs
If nothing else, for that alone I applaud the pullout, especially when the republicans are constantly screaming about "wasteful spending"
A money pit they pulled us into in the first place and kept it going
@Zeus4par
Wasteful spending to the taxpayer is another phrase for excess profits and bonuses for Raytheon, Northrop and GE and a host full of other defense contractors.
Id rather shut down all the defense spending like Clinton did and focus on our domestic issues while running a tight fiscal ship, but that never will happen.
@wallstreetcappers
now THAT right there would get my vote !
How about listening to those that already had a plan? He was warned about giving up a strategic air base but did it anyway. Everything Dementia Joe did had an air of spite to it. He couldn't do anything that would have looked like he "agreed" with the previous admin........like this disastrous withdrawal, & ending the "remain in Mexico" policy. I can't believe that anyone thinks his admin. was anything but a downer.....a failure......& the only reason he wasn't canned earlier was that people wanted no part of Harris taking over as CiC. Yet now they think she's a great candidate for potus? How can you not shake your head & laugh?
@THEMUGG
How many previous presidents did not exit the area? Just one or is it many many more?
You say things in such a silly partisan way it is difficult to take anything said seriously. There is and was no easy exit there or it would have been done long ago. So quit blaming the guy who got stuck with the task, a task which had no chance at success and the previous twenty plus years show this fact.
When someone seeks out ways to throw dirt on someone it looks like you soak up any and everything and fail to use common logic in your analysis.
But hey using your logic its any blame on Biden and those libs is good enough for you.
Always good to have the full context of a quote that is taken in isolation just to take a political jab:
PHOENIX (AP) — Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said Thursday that he lamented that school shootings are a “fact of life" and argued the U.S. needs to harden security to prevent more carnage like the shooting this week that left four dead in Georgia.
“If these psychos are going to go after our kids we’ve got to be prepared for it,” Vance said at a rally in Phoenix. “We don’t have to like the reality that we live in, but it is the reality we live in. We’ve got to deal with it.”
The Ohio senator was asked by a journalist what can be done to stop school shootings. He said further restricting access to guns, as many Democrats advocate, won’t end them, noting they happen in states with both lax and strict gun laws. He touted efforts in Congress to give schools more money for security.
“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Vance said. “But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”
Vance said he doesn't like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that's increasingly the reality that we live in.”
He called the shooting in Georgia an “awful tragedy," and said the families in Winder, Georgia, need prayers and sympathy.
@wallstreetcappers
How about Walz? Is he a "douche"? I would've thought a veteran such as yourself would have a problem with someone who lies about their service record.
@wallstreetcappers
There was nothing "partisan" about what I said. You simply look at it that way because you don't like anyone criticizing your party. At some point you have to stop being a cheerleader & admit "maybe things could've been done better". Instead, you just point at me & say "you're a bad guy because you criticize Biden". We all have our opinions, & they differ. To you, it's "anything Trump is bad....libs are good". I don't feel exactly as you do.
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