Nichols death has reignited the debate about police violence which is more common in the US than in other western countries. Apparently, body cameras don't work to reduce violence. Research shows other ways are more effective. First, ensure that officers who engage in misconduct are held accountable. Secondly, track complaints about officers who use excess force. Third, invest in alternatives such as more community policing and mental health professionals in law enforcement. Fourth, more training to restrict use of force such as hands off policy for foot chases.
good points good police r the good guys
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Nichols death has reignited the debate about police violence which is more common in the US than in other western countries. Apparently, body cameras don't work to reduce violence. Research shows other ways are more effective. First, ensure that officers who engage in misconduct are held accountable. Secondly, track complaints about officers who use excess force. Third, invest in alternatives such as more community policing and mental health professionals in law enforcement. Fourth, more training to restrict use of force such as hands off policy for foot chases.
Here in Maine all shootings are justified by the attorney general's office.
But a closer look at what happens to officers involved in shooting citizens is destruction of their career behind the scenes they are demoted , pushed off patrol and into training.
Mandatory counciling which leaves them broken and shattered as well as mentally defective. Most stop serving as police by the end of their current contract .
What ever career they once had is flushed.
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Here in Maine all shootings are justified by the attorney general's office.
But a closer look at what happens to officers involved in shooting citizens is destruction of their career behind the scenes they are demoted , pushed off patrol and into training.
Mandatory counciling which leaves them broken and shattered as well as mentally defective. Most stop serving as police by the end of their current contract .
Senseless police shootings happen less often in other countries. wonder why that is
One difference is in training of new police. In the US, average is over 20 weeks compared to 1-3 years in other countries. US training is outdated, inconsistent and too brief. Police academies resemble military boot camps which don't require critical thinking. Officers are trained in weapons and defensive tactics. But they need more training in soft skills such as communication, decision-making and crisis de-escalation.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Senseless police shootings happen less often in other countries. wonder why that is
One difference is in training of new police. In the US, average is over 20 weeks compared to 1-3 years in other countries. US training is outdated, inconsistent and too brief. Police academies resemble military boot camps which don't require critical thinking. Officers are trained in weapons and defensive tactics. But they need more training in soft skills such as communication, decision-making and crisis de-escalation.
Nichols'death reignites public calls for federal police reforms. However congress has failed to implement legislation for decades. For example, George Floyd justice in policing act because of mostly republican opposition.
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Nichols'death reignites public calls for federal police reforms. However congress has failed to implement legislation for decades. For example, George Floyd justice in policing act because of mostly republican opposition.
An 11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by a police officer after he called 911 for help is recovering after being released from the hospital, according to his family.
The family is calling for the officer to be fired and charged with the shooting.
Aderrien Murry was shot in the chest by an Indianola Police Department officer early Saturday morning while the officer was responding to a domestic disturbance call at the child’s home, according to his mother, Nakala Murry, and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation.
Murry told CNN that the father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m., “irate.”
Concerned about her safety, Murry asked Aderrien to call the police.
Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room.
“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.
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An 11-year-old Mississippi boy who was shot by a police officer after he called 911 for help is recovering after being released from the hospital, according to his family.
The family is calling for the officer to be fired and charged with the shooting.
Aderrien Murry was shot in the chest by an Indianola Police Department officer early Saturday morning while the officer was responding to a domestic disturbance call at the child’s home, according to his mother, Nakala Murry, and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation.
Murry told CNN that the father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m., “irate.”
Concerned about her safety, Murry asked Aderrien to call the police.
Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room.
“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.
that’s it’s weakness that drove us apart , and the greed of old farts , who gleefully agree to keep the unevenness between what’s known , and what should be , frozen in the cold , closely guarded and armed …….
So instead we get the status quo , and detachment from growth , yet we show no alarm …..
Where there’s fire there’s smoke , and you’re choking over and over, it’s a farce , and startling since the start , I want no part , hot damn , I thought you gods playing man was supposed to be smart ?
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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I agree with my whole heart …..
that’s it’s weakness that drove us apart , and the greed of old farts , who gleefully agree to keep the unevenness between what’s known , and what should be , frozen in the cold , closely guarded and armed …….
So instead we get the status quo , and detachment from growth , yet we show no alarm …..
Where there’s fire there’s smoke , and you’re choking over and over, it’s a farce , and startling since the start , I want no part , hot damn , I thought you gods playing man was supposed to be smart ?
There are many people who should never have been allowed to become cops. There are many people who should never have been allowed to possess firearms. The screening processes are woefully (and often tragically) inadequate, and have been for generations. Nothing serious is being done (thoughts and prayers are worthless). Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result is insane. The United States IS insane.
But it will keep happening, unfortunately. Trigger happy gun culture.
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
There are many people who should never have been allowed to become cops. There are many people who should never have been allowed to possess firearms. The screening processes are woefully (and often tragically) inadequate, and have been for generations. Nothing serious is being done (thoughts and prayers are worthless). Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result is insane. The United States IS insane.
But it will keep happening, unfortunately. Trigger happy gun culture.
Guns are easy to blame.. to an extent however people are foremost.. no accountability... no responsibility.. this goes for all parties.. want to blame someone... look in the mirror cause that person might be the one at fault..
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Most violent city , Memphis.. run by democrats
5 most gun violent cities all run by democrats..
Guns are easy to blame.. to an extent however people are foremost.. no accountability... no responsibility.. this goes for all parties.. want to blame someone... look in the mirror cause that person might be the one at fault..
The screening processes are woefully (and often tragically) inadequate, and have been for generations. Nothing serious is being done (thoughts and prayers are worthless). Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result is insane. The United States IS insane.
Sad
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
The screening processes are woefully (and often tragically) inadequate, and have been for generations. Nothing serious is being done (thoughts and prayers are worthless). Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result is insane. The United States IS insane.
But most people understand that gun violence boils down to who's running the city , and those " mayors" are overwhelmingly dems in the big cities... how come you can't see that ?
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@fubah2
But most people understand that gun violence boils down to who's running the city , and those " mayors" are overwhelmingly dems in the big cities... how come you can't see that ?
5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans
Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans
Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
What about the inner city gangsters ? that bang on them hammers ? causin’ mass hysteria and calamities ? in the community ? Those that slang that heat without impunity ? Bullet holes riddled through the streets ? Between my couch cushions and my window view you seem , only concerned with one side of the barrel , when it’s all kinds of different fingers on them triggers I’m sickened the truest cowards , blast death without a thought , and unfortunately your dormant if you believe it’s just the fiends who “ keep “ the law ……
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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What about the inner city gangsters ? that bang on them hammers ? causin’ mass hysteria and calamities ? in the community ? Those that slang that heat without impunity ? Bullet holes riddled through the streets ? Between my couch cushions and my window view you seem , only concerned with one side of the barrel , when it’s all kinds of different fingers on them triggers I’m sickened the truest cowards , blast death without a thought , and unfortunately your dormant if you believe it’s just the fiends who “ keep “ the law ……
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Can you do a breakdown on cities? Thanks.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans
Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Factually true.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans
Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Facts!
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 5 most violent gun states per capita all run by republicans Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
You can dramatically fight over hundreds of statistics and numbers ……
but the fact of the matter and the real motherfucker in this is that your both unwilling to budge or learn ……
I mean is nothing worth ?
justice as you double up on being nothing but jerks ? with your fudging and your squirts ? and that sideways talk always leaning to either one or the other side ?
do you even realize that you’re corrupting justice while you’re trying to take cover or run and hide ?
How do you justify not bumping your gums and instead lovingly shutting yourself inside ? The disguise of silence I wonder what’s in your minds ?
but I guess I’ll never know …..
cuz you’re either too scared or ill prepared to enter displeasurable zones …..
but don’t worry it’s normal , cuz that’s how the vast majority …..
clings to delinquence like an infant does a nipple so continue to pass the fucking porridge please….
cuz this one’s too cold , and this one’s too hot , but this one’s just right , and I’m spock , not makin’ a fight , I’m just showin’ you jabronis and jablokes that you’re lonely like some Goldilocks …..
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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You can dramatically fight over hundreds of statistics and numbers ……
but the fact of the matter and the real motherfucker in this is that your both unwilling to budge or learn ……
I mean is nothing worth ?
justice as you double up on being nothing but jerks ? with your fudging and your squirts ? and that sideways talk always leaning to either one or the other side ?
do you even realize that you’re corrupting justice while you’re trying to take cover or run and hide ?
How do you justify not bumping your gums and instead lovingly shutting yourself inside ? The disguise of silence I wonder what’s in your minds ?
but I guess I’ll never know …..
cuz you’re either too scared or ill prepared to enter displeasurable zones …..
but don’t worry it’s normal , cuz that’s how the vast majority …..
clings to delinquence like an infant does a nipple so continue to pass the fucking porridge please….
cuz this one’s too cold , and this one’s too hot , but this one’s just right , and I’m spock , not makin’ a fight , I’m just showin’ you jabronis and jablokes that you’re lonely like some Goldilocks …..
As bad as it is, it happens to ALL races, publicizing only black shootings further divides this country racially. George Floyd is no Hero, BLM is a sham organization. Oh, BTW, I am Black and when we disagree, we are called Uncle Toms
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As bad as it is, it happens to ALL races, publicizing only black shootings further divides this country racially. George Floyd is no Hero, BLM is a sham organization. Oh, BTW, I am Black and when we disagree, we are called Uncle Toms
Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third Way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Unfortunate, but it figures to remain that way for decades....
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Republicans insist more gun violence happens in democrat cities. But gun violence is worse in republican states. Statistically more significant to compare states instead of cities because of larger population. According to Third Way, republican states have dominated the top 10 murder rate states from 2000 to 2020. Even when largest cities (often democrat) are omitted from republican states, murder rates are still higher. The 3 states with lowest rates of gun deaths are democrat with stricter gun laws.
Unfortunate, but it figures to remain that way for decades....
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