Still waiting for all the Trump supporters to Hail to the "MR. MAGA" and his TAX PLAN

You are making assumptions all over the place and are wanting the benefit of the society to YOU without any responsibility or cost.

I dont know what your profession is but I guarantee you if your local state whatever it is were to be its own island and not have any interaction, inter connectivity, no possible way for you to conduct commerce outside your local "country" your salary and standard of living would be dramatically different.

You do understand that the reason you live as you do, that you make money as you do, that you get to use your cell phone, tv, your car, your healthcare, your food sources etc etc etc are all because of this society that you do not want to contribute to?

The US as a society has many many flaws and many takers, no question about it....but even with all the flaws, the taxation, the squandering of money our country is still superior as to freedoms and standard of living especially for those outside the poverty zone.

If you are worried about education of your kids, how about YOU educate at home before they get any education at school? As a parent we have been educating from birth and being in front of what our kiddo sees at school and teaching that what we feel is important and what we value might not be what others do and that is OK...do not judge and think badly about others who are different. Our kiddo has MANY friends who have called themselves to be LGBT and the schools here discuss things with parent permission and I am not afraid of my kiddo learning about others who are different...I welcome it. If your kids know they can come to you and you wont judge them or make them feel awkward then you can tell them pretty much anything and they will learn and find out for themselves. 

I do not fear that teaching about LGBT in schools has ANY impact on what my kiddo decides is best in their life, plus if that is the inclination I most positively do not want them to try and suppress it and live a miserable life trying to deny what their feelings are...but then again you do not get taught about feelings and what is in your mind and soul from some educator in school.

I'm not a "We are a village" kind of guy...

I think I'm on solid ground when I say I pay much more into the "system" than I receive...

It is a typical liberal argument to say that those who are successful only were able because of the structure already in place-

I could make as much, if not more by moving- so it isn't a static case- so, in my mind, not valid-

As far as school- all of my kids (thus far) are homeschooled- the younger ones still debating- 

Two older ones- one is aerospace engineer at NASA- second grad from lib arts premed- med school next year..

So, I agree- educate at home- but why should anyone's kid be exposed to sexual deviancy?

Your income is not my concern...

Well I dont consider homosexuality to be deviant behavior, I consider deviant behavior dependant on the person...so there are deviant same sex, deviant hetero, deviant a-sexual...it has nothing to do with the preference in my opinion.

You remind me of an ex-friend of mine for many years who said some of the same schtuff you did about school and sex-ed and I said to him that he better hope for the sake of his mentality and the kids that none of his kids were guy..but life has a way of changing your perspective now doesnt it?

I do not think you are on solid ground as to paying too much taxes because your life is not over and you would never be able to pay for all the infrastructure you benefit from, even if you paid all of your income as taxes...there is no way in your life that you could pay for what you benefit from with the hundreds of years of infrastructure. 

I am saying that you benefit from being in this society, even if you were superior in your trade, you make more in this society and your standard of living is superior and that has costs, it has negatives and it has takers and it has taxes.

 

Actually it is...everyone in society is impacted by all others, the lowest to the highest..

You have a job, I have a job all have jobs because of others in society. So you have to care about others or it impacts you eventually.

I am saying- 

I am more than willing to pay my fair share (my 1/325,000,000)-hell, I'll step up and pay my family's- 7/325,000,00-

But how in the name of hell do you figure that I should pay more?

And how in hell should anyone be entitled to my money by fiat?

Actually it isn't -

How on earth is his income my concern?

The point is you come off as entitled and snobbish, very condescending as if you are better than those who have less than you or might be takers of the system.

Your math does not work, you benefit from the hundreds of years of infrastructure which was paid for by generations before you and you are paying for now...but you also benefit from those federal decisions and taxes back then. 

So if this country used your minimalist approach you would not have what you do now...because the government spent money on infrastructure when it was not a current benefit relative to cost..so building thousands of miles of roads had and has a great cost, that cost was not recovered during that generation because it has a lifespan of benefit that exceeds those who paid for it...which is all of us now.

If we had to replace even a fraction of the infrastructure what do you think that would cost? What if we had to replace the freeway system how long would that take and how much would that cost? What if we were unable to fly airplanes or have satellite communication, how much would that cost and what effect would that have on the standard of living you have?

Your thinking is flawed...thats the bottom line.

Really?

This is a very simple concept I cannot believe you do not understand the concept of society and how all are interconnected.

I'll pay my (and my family's) part...

Set it where you like...

I will resist paying anyone else's part-

I reject the Idea that I owe anyone anything...

We are not a village- 

The point is you come off as entitled and snobbish, very condescending as if you are better than those who have less than you or might be takers of the system.

Your math does not work, you benefit from the hundreds of years of infrastructure which was paid for by generations before you and you are paying for now...but you also benefit from those federal decisions and taxes back then. 

So if this country used your minimalist approach you would not have what you do now...because the government spent money on infrastructure when it was not a current benefit relative to cost..so building thousands of miles of roads had and has a great cost, that cost was not recovered during that generation because it has a lifespan of benefit that exceeds those who paid for it...which is all of us now.

If we had to replace even a fraction of the infrastructure what do you think that would cost? What if we had to replace the freeway system how long would that take and how much would that cost? What if we were unable to fly airplanes or have satellite communication, how much would that cost and what effect would that have on the standard of living you have?

Your thinking is flawed...thats the bottom line.

I hope everyone succeeds- I hope they make the maximum that the market will bear-

But whether or not they do is not my concern...

Do you seriously care how much shirk makes?

Get past your fake outrage and libtard points...do you really?

You owe millions of people before you and now living because you benefit from those people...every day of your life you benefit from others and their sacrifices.

You come off as someone that has never been in a position of being lesser. I grew up WAY under the poverty line, and there is no way the household taxes we paid were enough to remotely cover the benefit we were able to partake of. 

There is no choice you live in a society, you are part of the village until you leave it.

LMAO at entitled and snobbish-

Dad- family of coal miners- Korean War vet- GI bill- first in family to go to college

Mom- 8th grade- mom dies- raised 4 kids while dad worked sawmill

So, yeah- that's me- entitled -

Please do not lecture me on poverty ....

Those are your parents...people can be raised in poverty and when life changes they forget what they lacked and feel entitled.

The way you react towards society and how you want all that is yours, all the benefit and do not see how you could never repay all you have comes off as snobbish. 

The life I live now I could never have imagined growing up, and of course I appreciate it but I could return to what I was and be happy. I appreciate all I have and the life I am lucky to live, the society we live in and the benefits I have. I know there is no possible way I could ever repay the current cost of all those past decisions and choices made. 

Plenty of taxes paid by plenty of taxpayers not named "me"...

So- kind of like slavery reparations- when can we move on and assign cost to consumer-

In other words- if I don't use, I don't pay...