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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2023 - 4:23 PM ET #1201

    @UNIMAN

    This has been discussed on here before and you will never make headway in this discussion with facts alone.

    This is basically 2 or 3 agenda-driven anti-oil, environmental, and anti-MMGW groups that will never be swayed by any facts away from their pre-conceived notions they use to back up their stances.  

    There is some 'lateral violence' among the Indian communities.  But that is largely agenda-driven as well as with other issues akin to the casino boom, etc.  This was largely proven to be unwarranted, as it is with a lot of issues.

    It is very good to be cognizant of the various concerns and learn and grow from past projects.  Obviously, today the newer techniques and technology should be better than when the older pipelines were built.  There are various other projects that are ongoing and proposed now.

    No amount of demonstrations about how much safer pipelines are to transport oil as opposed to railcars will sway the environmental group.

    No amount of facts showing how far away we are from having clean energy and not needing oil will sway the anti-oil group.

    No discussion is even allowed with the anti-MMGW group because they refuse to see any other issue except theirs.

    Certainly some concessions by Canada would have to be made and even Trudeau realizes this.  Even TransCanada Corporation has acknowledged that the critics are mostly wrong about it being an 'export pipeline'.  This is an agenda-driven talking point for them.  They ignore any data from IHS or any other group that disputes their claims.  When the numbers clearly show 30%-50% would be used in the USA.  

    Even the Globalists talking points fall apart on this.  They want one World economy but on this issue want to isolate Canada.  Some of the other group actually hope this would deter the entire endeavor and the oil would never be used.  But if an argument can be made that this version would be cheaper and more efficient for world-wide usage they still refuse to support it.  They simply say Canada should spend an enormous amount of money to build their own refineries and spend many more years to get them online.  Not to mention that transporting by rail is 2-3 times as expensive as a pipeline to get to the refineries.

    This has become a very weird issue that both sides have latched onto and made way more political than it should be.  There are many other projects that are inter-continental though more than one country.  For example, there are over 2000 pipelines and none have faced this extent of resistance.

    It is strange that in this instance even the pro-illegals group support isolating Canada, who is a great ally and trade partner to the USA.

    This is not a factual argument so much as an idealogical one.  The greater good of the country or even the world does not matter in this type of confrontation but only the agenda.  peace_5

     

     

     

     

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    @UNIMAN

    This has been discussed on here before and you will never make headway in this discussion with facts alone.

    This is basically 2 or 3 agenda-driven anti-oil, environmental, and anti-MMGW groups that will never be swayed by any facts away from their pre-conceived notions they use to back up their stances.  

    There is some 'lateral violence' among the Indian communities.  But that is largely agenda-driven as well as with other issues akin to the casino boom, etc.  This was largely proven to be unwarranted, as it is with a lot of issues.

    It is very good to be cognizant of the various concerns and learn and grow from past projects.  Obviously, today the newer techniques and technology should be better than when the older pipelines were built.  There are various other projects that are ongoing and proposed now.

    No amount of demonstrations about how much safer pipelines are to transport oil as opposed to railcars will sway the environmental group.

    No amount of facts showing how far away we are from having clean energy and not needing oil will sway the anti-oil group.

    No discussion is even allowed with the anti-MMGW group because they refuse to see any other issue except theirs.

    Certainly some concessions by Canada would have to be made and even Trudeau realizes this.  Even TransCanada Corporation has acknowledged that the critics are mostly wrong about it being an 'export pipeline'.  This is an agenda-driven talking point for them.  They ignore any data from IHS or any other group that disputes their claims.  When the numbers clearly show 30%-50% would be used in the USA.  

    Even the Globalists talking points fall apart on this.  They want one World economy but on this issue want to isolate Canada.  Some of the other group actually hope this would deter the entire endeavor and the oil would never be used.  But if an argument can be made that this version would be cheaper and more efficient for world-wide usage they still refuse to support it.  They simply say Canada should spend an enormous amount of money to build their own refineries and spend many more years to get them online.  Not to mention that transporting by rail is 2-3 times as expensive as a pipeline to get to the refineries.

    This has become a very weird issue that both sides have latched onto and made way more political than it should be.  There are many other projects that are inter-continental though more than one country.  For example, there are over 2000 pipelines and none have faced this extent of resistance.

    It is strange that in this instance even the pro-illegals group support isolating Canada, who is a great ally and trade partner to the USA.

    This is not a factual argument so much as an idealogical one.  The greater good of the country or even the world does not matter in this type of confrontation but only the agenda.  peace_5

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2023 - 8:54 AM ET #1202

     There are 14 gasoline-producing refineries in Canada (17 refineries in total): 6 in western Canada, 4 in Ontario, 2 in Quebec, and 2 in the Atlantic Provinces. (Not a few)

    In 2018 crude oil imports were 46% of refinery inputs, almost all going to Eastern Canada refineries. 

    In 2018, Canadian refineries produced 83% of all gasoline used in Canada. The other 17% refined oil was imported to Eastern Canada. 

    Almost all tar sand oil is currently transported to the Gulf, either by ship, rail, or existing pipelines. Keystone was just another pipeline that would have reduced rail and ship hauling that are more prone to accidents. Stopping Keystone has not prevented the oil from being sent to the Gulf at all. 

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     There are 14 gasoline-producing refineries in Canada (17 refineries in total): 6 in western Canada, 4 in Ontario, 2 in Quebec, and 2 in the Atlantic Provinces. (Not a few)

    In 2018 crude oil imports were 46% of refinery inputs, almost all going to Eastern Canada refineries. 

    In 2018, Canadian refineries produced 83% of all gasoline used in Canada. The other 17% refined oil was imported to Eastern Canada. 

    Almost all tar sand oil is currently transported to the Gulf, either by ship, rail, or existing pipelines. Keystone was just another pipeline that would have reduced rail and ship hauling that are more prone to accidents. Stopping Keystone has not prevented the oil from being sent to the Gulf at all. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2023 - 9:21 AM ET #1203

    @Raiders22

     Very well put and I understand the arguements. 

    peace_5 

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    @Raiders22

     Very well put and I understand the arguements. 

    peace_5 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2023 - 9:29 AM ET #1204

    Back to our buddy Joe.

    2020 debates; 

    My son has not made money in terms of this thing you’re talking about, what are you talking about, CHINA," Biden said on the debate stage.

    "I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life!" Biden said on the debate stage. "I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever."

    Hunter Biden contradicted his dad earlier this year, admitting in court that he received $664,000 from a "Chinese infrastructure investment company."

    July 2017; I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled," Hunter Biden told Henry Zhao, the director of Chinese asset management firm Harvest Fund Management. "And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction."

    -August 8, 2017; On Aug. 8, 2017, the $5 million in funds were sent to Hudson West III, a joint-venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong.

    -The same day, Hudson West III sent $400,000 to Owasco, P.C.— a separate entity controlled and owned by Hunter Biden.

    -Days later, on Aug. 14, 2017, Hunter Biden wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, a company owned by James Biden and his wife Sara Biden.

    -Aug. 28, 2017,  Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group and later deposited it into her and James Biden’s personal checking account.

    -Sept 3rd, 2017; Sara Biden writes a personal check to Joe Biden for $40,000. Labeled; loan repayment.

     

    10% of the $400,000 for "The Big Guy."

    Laundering money 101.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Back to our buddy Joe.

    2020 debates; 

    My son has not made money in terms of this thing you’re talking about, what are you talking about, CHINA," Biden said on the debate stage.

    "I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life!" Biden said on the debate stage. "I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever."

    Hunter Biden contradicted his dad earlier this year, admitting in court that he received $664,000 from a "Chinese infrastructure investment company."

    July 2017; I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled," Hunter Biden told Henry Zhao, the director of Chinese asset management firm Harvest Fund Management. "And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction."

    -August 8, 2017; On Aug. 8, 2017, the $5 million in funds were sent to Hudson West III, a joint-venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong.

    -The same day, Hudson West III sent $400,000 to Owasco, P.C.— a separate entity controlled and owned by Hunter Biden.

    -Days later, on Aug. 14, 2017, Hunter Biden wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, a company owned by James Biden and his wife Sara Biden.

    -Aug. 28, 2017,  Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group and later deposited it into her and James Biden’s personal checking account.

    -Sept 3rd, 2017; Sara Biden writes a personal check to Joe Biden for $40,000. Labeled; loan repayment.

     

    10% of the $400,000 for "The Big Guy."

    Laundering money 101.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2023 - 12:09 PM ET #1205

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Back to our buddy Joe. 2020 debates;  My son has not made money in terms of this thing you’re talking about, what are you talking about, CHINA," Biden said on the debate stage. "I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life!" Biden said on the debate stage. "I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever." Hunter Biden contradicted his dad earlier this year, admitting in court that he received $664,000 from a "Chinese infrastructure investment company." July 2017; I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled," Hunter Biden told Henry Zhao, the director of Chinese asset management firm Harvest Fund Management. "And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction." -August 8, 2017; On Aug. 8, 2017, the $5 million in funds were sent to Hudson West III, a joint-venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong. -The same day, Hudson West III sent $400,000 to Owasco, P.C.— a separate entity controlled and owned by Hunter Biden. -Days later, on Aug. 14, 2017, Hunter Biden wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, a company owned by James Biden and his wife Sara Biden. -Aug. 28, 2017,  Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group and later deposited it into her and James Biden’s personal checking account. -Sept 3rd, 2017; Sara Biden writes a personal check to Joe Biden for $40,000. Labeled; loan repayment.   10% of the $400,000 for "The Big Guy." Laundering money 101.
    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Back to our buddy Joe. 2020 debates;  My son has not made money in terms of this thing you’re talking about, what are you talking about, CHINA," Biden said on the debate stage. "I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life!" Biden said on the debate stage. "I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever." Hunter Biden contradicted his dad earlier this year, admitting in court that he received $664,000 from a "Chinese infrastructure investment company." July 2017; I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled," Hunter Biden told Henry Zhao, the director of Chinese asset management firm Harvest Fund Management. "And, Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction." -August 8, 2017; On Aug. 8, 2017, the $5 million in funds were sent to Hudson West III, a joint-venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong. -The same day, Hudson West III sent $400,000 to Owasco, P.C.— a separate entity controlled and owned by Hunter Biden. -Days later, on Aug. 14, 2017, Hunter Biden wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, a company owned by James Biden and his wife Sara Biden. -Aug. 28, 2017,  Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group and later deposited it into her and James Biden’s personal checking account. -Sept 3rd, 2017; Sara Biden writes a personal check to Joe Biden for $40,000. Labeled; loan repayment.   10% of the $400,000 for "The Big Guy." Laundering money 101.
    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2023 - 12:31 PM ET #1206

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  The point is that Canada in order to use their exports have to import it since they are not at all equipped for sour refining. Do you understand that concept? To follow your logic that their product stays here as you are suggesting, then we have to follow that next step from refining to delivery of products made from the sour sludge that they call molasses in Canada. So Canada has to take that first product from Alberta normally and get it to the gulf, then it is refined and separated and then those products are used as you say domestically...so how does product from deep gulf Texas get to Canada again? I am using your theory here that Canada exports are not sent to China and India that they are kept here...so how does the producer gain access to their product? The number of transport options are limited right? I know that down here a few years ago there was a pipeline issue from Texas to Arizona and it caused a massive problem when the fix needed to take place and the pipeline was shut down..it caused a huge price spike that lasted longer than it needed to but was for sure damaging to the consumer and the environment. Canada does have a few sweet refineries but not the sour tooling required for their tar/fracking products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  The point is that Canada in order to use their exports have to import it since they are not at all equipped for sour refining. Do you understand that concept? To follow your logic that their product stays here as you are suggesting, then we have to follow that next step from refining to delivery of products made from the sour sludge that they call molasses in Canada. So Canada has to take that first product from Alberta normally and get it to the gulf, then it is refined and separated and then those products are used as you say domestically...so how does product from deep gulf Texas get to Canada again? I am using your theory here that Canada exports are not sent to China and India that they are kept here...so how does the producer gain access to their product? The number of transport options are limited right? I know that down here a few years ago there was a pipeline issue from Texas to Arizona and it caused a massive problem when the fix needed to take place and the pipeline was shut down..it caused a huge price spike that lasted longer than it needed to but was for sure damaging to the consumer and the environment. Canada does have a few sweet refineries but not the sour tooling required for their tar/fracking products.
    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 8:06 PM ET #1207

     

     

     

    New York Times headline, April of this year;

    Mayor Adams Criticizes Biden in Rare Public Rebuke Over Migrant Crisis.

    Today; FBI raids home of Adam's campaign aid.

     

     

    Who woulda thought? Henry Cuellar maybe? 

     

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    New York Times headline, April of this year;

    Mayor Adams Criticizes Biden in Rare Public Rebuke Over Migrant Crisis.

    Today; FBI raids home of Adam's campaign aid.

     

     

    Who woulda thought? Henry Cuellar maybe? 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2023 - 12:04 AM ET #1208

    Hunter's lawyers now want Bobolinski to testify in court, claiming "false statements".......Bobolinski has to be laughing. an_roll_laugh

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    Hunter's lawyers now want Bobolinski to testify in court, claiming "false statements".......Bobolinski has to be laughing. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2023 - 6:38 AM ET #1209

     Apparently, one of Hunter's attys. sent a letter to the US atty. claiming Bobulinski lied to the FBI......

     

    "All of the allegations contained in Mr. Lowell’s 10-page letter to U.S. Attorney Graves are patently false, and I look forward to exposing these lies and laying out the facts in a public forum in short order," Bobulinski said in the statement.

    "The sad thing for our country is that Hunter, Jim and Joe Biden along with Abbe Lowell know they are all false and are trying to weaponize the DOJ against me.

    "If Hunter Biden and the Biden family are so determined to ensure that the full truth is put before the American people, Hunter, Jim, Joe and I should all appear together before Congress, publicly and under oath," he continued. "They can name the date, time and place, and I would certainly be willing to do that for the American people."

     He just called their bluff........gotta love it. cool

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     Apparently, one of Hunter's attys. sent a letter to the US atty. claiming Bobulinski lied to the FBI......

     

    "All of the allegations contained in Mr. Lowell’s 10-page letter to U.S. Attorney Graves are patently false, and I look forward to exposing these lies and laying out the facts in a public forum in short order," Bobulinski said in the statement.

    "The sad thing for our country is that Hunter, Jim and Joe Biden along with Abbe Lowell know they are all false and are trying to weaponize the DOJ against me.

    "If Hunter Biden and the Biden family are so determined to ensure that the full truth is put before the American people, Hunter, Jim, Joe and I should all appear together before Congress, publicly and under oath," he continued. "They can name the date, time and place, and I would certainly be willing to do that for the American people."

     He just called their bluff........gotta love it. cool

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 1:57 AM ET #1210

     The WH appears to be getting a face lift while DJ is away at the beach.....surprised

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     The WH appears to be getting a face lift while DJ is away at the beach.....surprised

     
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    @THEMUGG

     

    From what have read Hunter Biden has never invoked his 5th amendment right but on the other hand The Ex President and his family have required it hundreds of times an_popcorn  

    I do recall that Donald Trump back a few years ago had a lot to say about the Fifth Amendment in the past.

    “You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” 

    During a presidential debate, he said,When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful…….These are Trump own words….Amazing!

    What is ridiculous is that the Republicans can't see how much damage this idiot of a president is doing to their party. He’s going to jail and will not pass go Muggs ! But his supporters could always send him mail and some money for the prison commissary !

     

     

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    From what have read Hunter Biden has never invoked his 5th amendment right but on the other hand The Ex President and his family have required it hundreds of times an_popcorn  

    I do recall that Donald Trump back a few years ago had a lot to say about the Fifth Amendment in the past.

    “You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” 

    During a presidential debate, he said,When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful…….These are Trump own words….Amazing!

    What is ridiculous is that the Republicans can't see how much damage this idiot of a president is doing to their party. He’s going to jail and will not pass go Muggs ! But his supporters could always send him mail and some money for the prison commissary !

     

     

     
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    Your thinking is seriously flawed as is the Democratic Party. Every outlandish attack on Trump is an attack on the millions of Americans who also believe in Make America Great Again. It only gives him strength. Each kangaroo court conviction will only bolster his numbers.

    The current administration is so bad, doing such a horrible job, they need to attack Trump to have even a slim chance at re-election. These leftwing kangaroo courts are so obviously fueled by hate. The timing of each trail couldn't have been more stratigic. Your only pleasing those who hate Trump to begin with. 

    Because of Biden's fence walking in Israel he has now lost both the J-e-wish vote and the Arab vote. No conviction of Donald Trump can erase or deflect from the three years of spiraling down the toilet bowl from this admin.

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    Your thinking is seriously flawed as is the Democratic Party. Every outlandish attack on Trump is an attack on the millions of Americans who also believe in Make America Great Again. It only gives him strength. Each kangaroo court conviction will only bolster his numbers.

    The current administration is so bad, doing such a horrible job, they need to attack Trump to have even a slim chance at re-election. These leftwing kangaroo courts are so obviously fueled by hate. The timing of each trail couldn't have been more stratigic. Your only pleasing those who hate Trump to begin with. 

    Because of Biden's fence walking in Israel he has now lost both the J-e-wish vote and the Arab vote. No conviction of Donald Trump can erase or deflect from the three years of spiraling down the toilet bowl from this admin.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 12:52 PM ET #1213

    @joe pockets

      I'm not talking about Trump......I clearly referenced the fact that Biden Inc. is trying to sic the DOJ on one of HB's former partners, & Bobulinski said "bring it".......he called their bluff & dared them to join him to testify under oath.

     There was an "insurrection" at the WH yesterday......... I wonder how many of those insurrectionists will end up in jail for years?

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    @joe pockets

      I'm not talking about Trump......I clearly referenced the fact that Biden Inc. is trying to sic the DOJ on one of HB's former partners, & Bobulinski said "bring it".......he called their bluff & dared them to join him to testify under oath.

     There was an "insurrection" at the WH yesterday......... I wonder how many of those insurrectionists will end up in jail for years?

     
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    Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically.  But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts.   So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump.  Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias.  His investigators tend to be republicans or have good integrity.  However there are far more evidences of Trump administration consistently weaponizing investigations against political enemies.  For example, Trump was impeached on withholding of aid to Ukraine for investigation of Biden. 

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    Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically.  But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts.   So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump.  Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias.  His investigators tend to be republicans or have good integrity.  However there are far more evidences of Trump administration consistently weaponizing investigations against political enemies.  For example, Trump was impeached on withholding of aid to Ukraine for investigation of Biden. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 8:27 PM ET #1215

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     How do you know that there isn’t evidence that backs the Biden family and the claims against this gentleman? Trump ! Mark my word in the future millions will made by charging 10 bucks to urinate on his grave! Hell with all the folks that he defrauded before 2016 millions could have been had ….But-he just hasn’t cooperated yet!

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    @THEMUGG

     How do you know that there isn’t evidence that backs the Biden family and the claims against this gentleman? Trump ! Mark my word in the future millions will made by charging 10 bucks to urinate on his grave! Hell with all the folks that he defrauded before 2016 millions could have been had ….But-he just hasn’t cooperated yet!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 8:33 PM ET #1216

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @THEMUGG  How do you know that there isn’t evidence that backs the Biden family and the claims against this gentleman? Trump ! Mark my word in the future millions will made by charging 10 bucks to urinate on his grave! Hell with all the folks that he defrauded before 2016 millions could have been had ….But-he just hasn’t cooperated yet!

    Welp, I for one would offer as high as $20 for that "golden" opportunity 

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @THEMUGG  How do you know that there isn’t evidence that backs the Biden family and the claims against this gentleman? Trump ! Mark my word in the future millions will made by charging 10 bucks to urinate on his grave! Hell with all the folks that he defrauded before 2016 millions could have been had ….But-he just hasn’t cooperated yet!

    Welp, I for one would offer as high as $20 for that "golden" opportunity 

     
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    @joe pockets

      If there was anything to their claims, why wouldn't they come out forthright & declare it? No, they instead contact the DOJ & ask them to find dirt on the guy. It has been over three years since Bobulinski exposed the Bidens to the public...... I'm guessing after three years their attys. couldn't refute it, & this is their way of deflecting.

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      If there was anything to their claims, why wouldn't they come out forthright & declare it? No, they instead contact the DOJ & ask them to find dirt on the guy. It has been over three years since Bobulinski exposed the Bidens to the public...... I'm guessing after three years their attys. couldn't refute it, & this is their way of deflecting.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2023 - 3:58 AM ET #1218

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    It has been over three years since Bobulinski exposed the Bidens to the public.....

    Bobulinski is spreading a debunked conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was involved in Hunter proposed business venture that collapsed.  The Chinese firm ended up forming a joint venture with a competitor.  At this time, Joe wasn't in office.  Past investigations found nothing wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    It has been over three years since Bobulinski exposed the Bidens to the public.....

    Bobulinski is spreading a debunked conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was involved in Hunter proposed business venture that collapsed.  The Chinese firm ended up forming a joint venture with a competitor.  At this time, Joe wasn't in office.  Past investigations found nothing wrong.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2023 - 12:00 PM ET #1219

    @thirdperson

     GOP is playing the smoke, noise and mirrors game ! They will be remembered in history as self serving opportunists and the party will go the way of joining the Whig party to oblivion 

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    @thirdperson

     GOP is playing the smoke, noise and mirrors game ! They will be remembered in history as self serving opportunists and the party will go the way of joining the Whig party to oblivion 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: It has been over three years since Bobulinski exposed the Bidens to the public..... Bobulinski is spreading a debunked conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was involved in Hunter proposed business venture that collapsed.  The Chinese firm ended up forming a joint venture with a competitor.  At this time, Joe wasn't in office.  Past investigations found nothing wrong.
    It's amazing how so many will defend Biden to no end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: It has been over three years since Bobulinski exposed the Bidens to the public..... Bobulinski is spreading a debunked conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was involved in Hunter proposed business venture that collapsed.  The Chinese firm ended up forming a joint venture with a competitor.  At this time, Joe wasn't in office.  Past investigations found nothing wrong.
    It's amazing how so many will defend Biden to no end.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2023 - 3:29 PM ET #1221

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     Trump is facing 91 felony counts in four criminal cases in Washington, New York, Florida and Georgia ! With straight your going to say it’s a nothing burger and then bring Hunter Biden who is private citizen that got a job that was beyond the scope of his credited abilities “ Even though this a norm for the Rich,Connected, or Powerful since the days on the Great Roman Empire and happens every day on all 7 continents “And cry bloody murder ! The 3 Trump children and Jared have fleeced more money patients & open doors in 24 hour then Joe Biden could show for in 80 years of breathing…..Soon Gym Jordan will be investigating Joe & Hunter Biden for receiving extra S&H Green stamps from his local gas station in 1965! All can say charge them already! Show the evidence 

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    @THEMUGG

     Trump is facing 91 felony counts in four criminal cases in Washington, New York, Florida and Georgia ! With straight your going to say it’s a nothing burger and then bring Hunter Biden who is private citizen that got a job that was beyond the scope of his credited abilities “ Even though this a norm for the Rich,Connected, or Powerful since the days on the Great Roman Empire and happens every day on all 7 continents “And cry bloody murder ! The 3 Trump children and Jared have fleeced more money patients & open doors in 24 hour then Joe Biden could show for in 80 years of breathing…..Soon Gym Jordan will be investigating Joe & Hunter Biden for receiving extra S&H Green stamps from his local gas station in 1965! All can say charge them already! Show the evidence 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @THEMUGG  Trump is facing 91 felony counts in four criminal cases in Washington, New York, Florida and Georgia ! With straight your going to say it’s a nothing burger and then bring Hunter Biden who is private citizen that got a job that was beyond the scope of his credited abilities “ Even though this a norm for the Rich,Connected, or Powerful since the days on the Great Roman Empire and happens every day on all 7 continents “And cry bloody murder ! The 3 Trump children and Jared have fleeced more money patients & open doors in 24 hour then Joe Biden could show for in 80 years of breathing…..Soon Gym Jordan will be investigating Joe & Hunter Biden for receiving extra S&H Green stamps from his local gas station in 1965! All can say charge them already! Show the evidence
    C'mon Mugg,you cry about people defending Biden to no end.Lets hear what critical things you got to say about the 91 charges trumps facing right now.You know the guy who knew you P'sOS would follow him no matter what he does.That he bragged about being able to stand in the middle of 5th Ave and shoot someone,and not lose any voters.

    Could you ever have imagined a President of the United States ever even thinking of saying a statement like that?What he is saying is I could kill someone for no reason,and my dumb ass sheep following clowns wouldn't give a shit.What kind of conceited self centered piece of garbage even has thoughts about something like that?"Gee,I wonder how much my followers worship me,I wonder if I could shoot someone in the middle of the street,and they would still vote for me.Mmm,nobody said they wouldn't still vote for me,so I guess I could".

    He knows what kind of fools you people are,you know the ones who send a so-called billionaire money.Show me in any one of these threads on Covers where you said you wouldn't be one of those people who would still vote for him.Then you have the nerve to be on here whining and crying about people defending Biden to no end.Hey you sheep,show me where a Biden supporter said that Biden could kill someone and they would still vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @THEMUGG  Trump is facing 91 felony counts in four criminal cases in Washington, New York, Florida and Georgia ! With straight your going to say it’s a nothing burger and then bring Hunter Biden who is private citizen that got a job that was beyond the scope of his credited abilities “ Even though this a norm for the Rich,Connected, or Powerful since the days on the Great Roman Empire and happens every day on all 7 continents “And cry bloody murder ! The 3 Trump children and Jared have fleeced more money patients & open doors in 24 hour then Joe Biden could show for in 80 years of breathing…..Soon Gym Jordan will be investigating Joe & Hunter Biden for receiving extra S&H Green stamps from his local gas station in 1965! All can say charge them already! Show the evidence
    C'mon Mugg,you cry about people defending Biden to no end.Lets hear what critical things you got to say about the 91 charges trumps facing right now.You know the guy who knew you P'sOS would follow him no matter what he does.That he bragged about being able to stand in the middle of 5th Ave and shoot someone,and not lose any voters.

    Could you ever have imagined a President of the United States ever even thinking of saying a statement like that?What he is saying is I could kill someone for no reason,and my dumb ass sheep following clowns wouldn't give a shit.What kind of conceited self centered piece of garbage even has thoughts about something like that?"Gee,I wonder how much my followers worship me,I wonder if I could shoot someone in the middle of the street,and they would still vote for me.Mmm,nobody said they wouldn't still vote for me,so I guess I could".

    He knows what kind of fools you people are,you know the ones who send a so-called billionaire money.Show me in any one of these threads on Covers where you said you wouldn't be one of those people who would still vote for him.Then you have the nerve to be on here whining and crying about people defending Biden to no end.Hey you sheep,show me where a Biden supporter said that Biden could kill someone and they would still vote for him.

     
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    Wil the Left please do everybody a favor? Please eliminate the word 'debunk/debunked' from the Leftist lexicon. TY!

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    Wil the Left please do everybody a favor? Please eliminate the word 'debunk/debunked' from the Leftist lexicon. TY!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2023 - 6:38 PM ET #1224

    Typical responses from lefties........"BUT, BUT, BUT TRUMP!!"

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      Where do you see me supporting Trump in this forum? I don't like him.......but the BS the libs have been pulling for the L5-6 years has been shameful. In the case of the Biden family, do you think we should just ignore their actions & think "ahh, they could never do anything wrong" ? Why are you afraid to find out the truth?

     

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    Typical responses from lefties........"BUT, BUT, BUT TRUMP!!"

    @MrWhatsItToYa

      Where do you see me supporting Trump in this forum? I don't like him.......but the BS the libs have been pulling for the L5-6 years has been shameful. In the case of the Biden family, do you think we should just ignore their actions & think "ahh, they could never do anything wrong" ? Why are you afraid to find out the truth?

     

     
     
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    @THEMUGG

     This left right stuff is pretty tired, none is wrong none is right. The left waited 7 yrs for Trump truth and 20 years for Bush truth, the right thought there were Obama lies and now Biden lies. Truth is not coming so why are we acting like partisan twits all the time?

    I did find great humor in how the Trump boys try to act like they are so elite and then throw out the "I trusted the accountants" excuse even when Eric got caught with his fly down and had to scramble.

    Its like people want to hate each other and this forum division and stupid partisan sqwaking day in and out are proof of how sheepy people are.

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    @THEMUGG

     This left right stuff is pretty tired, none is wrong none is right. The left waited 7 yrs for Trump truth and 20 years for Bush truth, the right thought there were Obama lies and now Biden lies. Truth is not coming so why are we acting like partisan twits all the time?

    I did find great humor in how the Trump boys try to act like they are so elite and then throw out the "I trusted the accountants" excuse even when Eric got caught with his fly down and had to scramble.

    Its like people want to hate each other and this forum division and stupid partisan sqwaking day in and out are proof of how sheepy people are.

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