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    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2023 - 5:52 PM ET #1326

    @UNIMAN

     

     "That thread being bumped the other day from 3 years ago shows you are the same combative attacking personal jab person and you will never change"

    A post addressed to me, using "you are"..... "same"..."person" ,not people, "person".

    So are you saying someone else bumping an old thread makes me the combative attacking person?

    You clearly went singular pronoun "you are.....the person."

    There is no paranoia here. I understand the english language.

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     "That thread being bumped the other day from 3 years ago shows you are the same combative attacking personal jab person and you will never change"

    A post addressed to me, using "you are"..... "same"..."person" ,not people, "person".

    So are you saying someone else bumping an old thread makes me the combative attacking person?

    You clearly went singular pronoun "you are.....the person."

    There is no paranoia here. I understand the english language.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2023 - 6:12 PM ET #1327

    Ahh, I get it now. Actually read that old post. Yes I did post in it my personal beliefs with links in some cases. Sorry it gave you a headache. So me posting back then was combative as it is now.

    Naaa, it was and is only my point of view. 

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    Ahh, I get it now. Actually read that old post. Yes I did post in it my personal beliefs with links in some cases. Sorry it gave you a headache. So me posting back then was combative as it is now.

    Naaa, it was and is only my point of view. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2023 - 6:46 PM ET #1328

    @UNIMAN

     You were and are combative, that was the point. Someone else bumped the thread as you found out once you looked but partisan will look to blame someone and you take pretty much every opp to blame for any response I make regarding being respectful to others and keeping the rules. To you the issue is partisan, it was partisan back then it will always be partisan because that is how you process and think.

    That is why I highly suggest you completely steer clear of interaction with anyone who is not 100% in agreement with you. The lack of ability to treat people with respect even when you completely disagree with them is something you are unable to do on any regular basis. So please for your own sanity and to keep the rules we have here just stop interacting, replying, fighting, baiting others who you disagree with. I dont care what party a member is, when things become personal and rules are broken and abuses happen then I care and only then.

    If you feel another member is breaking site rules we suggest you report it and let Covers deal with it, do not retaliate, mock, abuse, annoy, antagonize and whatever other verbs which apply. If you cannot keep a high standard of respect then you should completely avoid the situation.

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     You were and are combative, that was the point. Someone else bumped the thread as you found out once you looked but partisan will look to blame someone and you take pretty much every opp to blame for any response I make regarding being respectful to others and keeping the rules. To you the issue is partisan, it was partisan back then it will always be partisan because that is how you process and think.

    That is why I highly suggest you completely steer clear of interaction with anyone who is not 100% in agreement with you. The lack of ability to treat people with respect even when you completely disagree with them is something you are unable to do on any regular basis. So please for your own sanity and to keep the rules we have here just stop interacting, replying, fighting, baiting others who you disagree with. I dont care what party a member is, when things become personal and rules are broken and abuses happen then I care and only then.

    If you feel another member is breaking site rules we suggest you report it and let Covers deal with it, do not retaliate, mock, abuse, annoy, antagonize and whatever other verbs which apply. If you cannot keep a high standard of respect then you should completely avoid the situation.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2023 - 8:34 AM ET #1329

    I have read and I have a copy of the rules. Do my very best to follow them. You don't see me creating threads to antagonize nor do I enter others threads to "troll" as they say. Pretty much confine myself to those few conservative leaning threads that don't get tossed to the PB and sometimes follow those to the PB if I have something to say.

    If defending my beliefs and rebutting criticism of same is deemed "combative" than guilty as charged. 

    I find your judgements/conclusions wrong. You seemed to like to name call or degrade others that don't think as you as lowly blind "partisans".

    My views are mine and mine alone. 

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    I have read and I have a copy of the rules. Do my very best to follow them. You don't see me creating threads to antagonize nor do I enter others threads to "troll" as they say. Pretty much confine myself to those few conservative leaning threads that don't get tossed to the PB and sometimes follow those to the PB if I have something to say.

    If defending my beliefs and rebutting criticism of same is deemed "combative" than guilty as charged. 

    I find your judgements/conclusions wrong. You seemed to like to name call or degrade others that don't think as you as lowly blind "partisans".

    My views are mine and mine alone. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2023 - 9:27 AM ET #1330

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Why dont the GOP side just quit interacting with anyone who does not 100% agree with you? Is that your utopia?? And I don't have "a side" rather most of my personal beliefs tend to favor one political party. I stand alone.   Spock, no need to apologize, but thank you, most of the time you make me smile and often you make me think.

    you seem like a real stand up individual uni .

    And when I say that I mean that I can feel your sincerity and that I can see your rugged kindness shine bright ……

    like it was a well defined bicep that was peaking out from a short sleeve shirt who’s owner was a young man that was helping an old woman put away her groceries into the back hatch of her Subaru in a supermarket parking lot even though he didn’t know her .

    I’m intrigued .

    And I don’t swing that way , not that there’s anything wrong with that , plus I’m currently going steady with a girl , and we’re involved in some heavy petting , so bro you know I can’t give that up , but just in case ……

    you got a sister ?

    alas , it doesn’t really matter I guess , cuz most of them dames want to pop out a baby in their science labs down there sooner or later , and for those that aren’t “ in the know “ , or “ don’t dig “ , that means they want to procreate …

    but how can I bring a child into this world ?

    In the current state that it is in ?

    It would be like being born into a maze with electric fences that had sleeping soldiers at every turn , that if awakened by too much noise , would shoot first because they were startled , and never ask questions later anyway because being uncomfortable for those “ in power “ has been deemed illegal and necessitating swift and brutal punishment .

    better I just keep on heavy petting with Clarita in her pop’s Chevy Nova dogg .

    Cuz I heard he used to be a player , and his car is like from 1977 , so if something squirts out by me it will just fade into the background of all the past transgressions or conquests done there by him . Ya dig ?

    It’s like gambling . Risk vs Reward . And I’m not too sure that this planet is a healthy place to raise a child . With all the shenanigans going on and what not . And people fighting . Or talking out their asses . That makes things worse .

    So kids here with Clarita is off the menu . But if the guy who owns Tesla gets us to Mars before my syrup runs dry down there I might fancy giving fatherhood a go over there . Up yonder . Amidst the stardust and tranquility .

    peace brother peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Why dont the GOP side just quit interacting with anyone who does not 100% agree with you? Is that your utopia?? And I don't have "a side" rather most of my personal beliefs tend to favor one political party. I stand alone.   Spock, no need to apologize, but thank you, most of the time you make me smile and often you make me think.

    you seem like a real stand up individual uni .

    And when I say that I mean that I can feel your sincerity and that I can see your rugged kindness shine bright ……

    like it was a well defined bicep that was peaking out from a short sleeve shirt who’s owner was a young man that was helping an old woman put away her groceries into the back hatch of her Subaru in a supermarket parking lot even though he didn’t know her .

    I’m intrigued .

    And I don’t swing that way , not that there’s anything wrong with that , plus I’m currently going steady with a girl , and we’re involved in some heavy petting , so bro you know I can’t give that up , but just in case ……

    you got a sister ?

    alas , it doesn’t really matter I guess , cuz most of them dames want to pop out a baby in their science labs down there sooner or later , and for those that aren’t “ in the know “ , or “ don’t dig “ , that means they want to procreate …

    but how can I bring a child into this world ?

    In the current state that it is in ?

    It would be like being born into a maze with electric fences that had sleeping soldiers at every turn , that if awakened by too much noise , would shoot first because they were startled , and never ask questions later anyway because being uncomfortable for those “ in power “ has been deemed illegal and necessitating swift and brutal punishment .

    better I just keep on heavy petting with Clarita in her pop’s Chevy Nova dogg .

    Cuz I heard he used to be a player , and his car is like from 1977 , so if something squirts out by me it will just fade into the background of all the past transgressions or conquests done there by him . Ya dig ?

    It’s like gambling . Risk vs Reward . And I’m not too sure that this planet is a healthy place to raise a child . With all the shenanigans going on and what not . And people fighting . Or talking out their asses . That makes things worse .

    So kids here with Clarita is off the menu . But if the guy who owns Tesla gets us to Mars before my syrup runs dry down there I might fancy giving fatherhood a go over there . Up yonder . Amidst the stardust and tranquility .

    peace brother peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2023 - 11:45 AM ET #1331

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    JUST LIKE...........   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-henry-cuellar-biden-border-enforcement-migrants-face-the-nation/ September 2022; Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas on Sunday urged President Biden to step up enforcement of immigration laws as Republican governors this week ramped up their confrontation with the administration over its border strategy by transporting migrants released from federal custody to Democratic-run cities. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-raid-us-rep-henry-cuellars-texas-home-office-said-tied-azerbaijan-rcna13005 FBI raids the home of Henry Cuellar. Right before his primary! Then; https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/19/henry-cuellar-fbi-raid/ Last January, FBI agents raided U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar’s home and office in Laredo, emerging with a computer and plastic bins and bags containing personal items in a stunning spectacle that occurred just weeks before a tough primary election. The raid cast a shadow over a competitive election year for the longtime Democratic congressman who defended his seat from a progressive in the March primary and then a well-funded and coordinated effort to flip his seat by Republicans in November. Cuellar emerged largely unscathed — soundly winning his November reelection for a 10th term in office. One year later, there have been no arrests or charges filed related to the case. Cuellar maintains that he was never the target of the investigation and will ultimately be cleared of wrongdoing. And the public remains largely in the dark about what set off the investigation.   THIS IS WHAT HITLER DID TO HIS FELLOW PARTY MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T TOW THE LINE.

    The Bolsheviks did the same, we have some Bolsheviks in this sub forum so be careful around here.....they had show trials and all where they paraded their political opponents (anyone who shared a different view on ANY of the party narratives) up in front of the public for sham trials then sent them off to the gulags.  Which is exactly what the radicals want to do with the MAGAs (and they currently are doing).  

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    JUST LIKE...........   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-henry-cuellar-biden-border-enforcement-migrants-face-the-nation/ September 2022; Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas on Sunday urged President Biden to step up enforcement of immigration laws as Republican governors this week ramped up their confrontation with the administration over its border strategy by transporting migrants released from federal custody to Democratic-run cities. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-raid-us-rep-henry-cuellars-texas-home-office-said-tied-azerbaijan-rcna13005 FBI raids the home of Henry Cuellar. Right before his primary! Then; https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/19/henry-cuellar-fbi-raid/ Last January, FBI agents raided U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar’s home and office in Laredo, emerging with a computer and plastic bins and bags containing personal items in a stunning spectacle that occurred just weeks before a tough primary election. The raid cast a shadow over a competitive election year for the longtime Democratic congressman who defended his seat from a progressive in the March primary and then a well-funded and coordinated effort to flip his seat by Republicans in November. Cuellar emerged largely unscathed — soundly winning his November reelection for a 10th term in office. One year later, there have been no arrests or charges filed related to the case. Cuellar maintains that he was never the target of the investigation and will ultimately be cleared of wrongdoing. And the public remains largely in the dark about what set off the investigation.   THIS IS WHAT HITLER DID TO HIS FELLOW PARTY MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T TOW THE LINE.

    The Bolsheviks did the same, we have some Bolsheviks in this sub forum so be careful around here.....they had show trials and all where they paraded their political opponents (anyone who shared a different view on ANY of the party narratives) up in front of the public for sham trials then sent them off to the gulags.  Which is exactly what the radicals want to do with the MAGAs (and they currently are doing).  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2023 - 12:23 PM ET #1332

    @kcblitzkrieg

     That is a funny conclusion, that the left side wants to persecute the Trump followers and on face value without being in this society for the last eight years (and for some the last 50 years watching Trump crap all over society) it might make sense. It seems from a one sided narrative that one group is being spotlighted and not in a positive way and as you put it staged to be then thrown into the gulag. 

    What is missing from your narrative is any reasoning WHY that is the case. Why are these followers disliked as you say, but not to the gulag example I dont think but WHY is this the case?

    It seems easy enough for me as to the why, so wouldnt it be a better outcome to go to the root of the problem and conclude the entire landscape instead of pinpointing one small section of the whole drama?

    This forum is a great example of the exact thing I am referencing, there are several Trump loyalists here and I would suggest that most are abusive, condescending, antagonistic and do the same grandstanding that you suggest is being done to them. The members here on both sides are pointing fingers and abusing each other, Biden fans and obviously Trump fans, so responsibility is not just to one but to everyone in this mess. There have been political divisions in pretty much every single election and every single day because that is human nature but Trump is a derisive divider who bring out the worst in people more than previous politicians. So if people who are zealous follow a politician who abuses people as a platform, what kind of outcome is likely to happen?

    The real solution is to find options which are not so extremist as he is and for people to think of others before running them over. People today actually enjoy having the opportunity and platform to smack each other around, that really is how a schmuck like Trump has an audience, people want to hate each other to put each other down, to divide and fight and annoy, to push their extremist personal views onto society as a whole..versus having society has the objective and leaving your biases and anger inside your head. Trump has given the opportunity for the worst in people to be on parade and to be vocalized, he wrecks society and any unity that might exist otherwise. Inciting to divide for the purpose of sole political aspiration is disgusting and that for sure is why the situation you posed exists right now.

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    @kcblitzkrieg

     That is a funny conclusion, that the left side wants to persecute the Trump followers and on face value without being in this society for the last eight years (and for some the last 50 years watching Trump crap all over society) it might make sense. It seems from a one sided narrative that one group is being spotlighted and not in a positive way and as you put it staged to be then thrown into the gulag. 

    What is missing from your narrative is any reasoning WHY that is the case. Why are these followers disliked as you say, but not to the gulag example I dont think but WHY is this the case?

    It seems easy enough for me as to the why, so wouldnt it be a better outcome to go to the root of the problem and conclude the entire landscape instead of pinpointing one small section of the whole drama?

    This forum is a great example of the exact thing I am referencing, there are several Trump loyalists here and I would suggest that most are abusive, condescending, antagonistic and do the same grandstanding that you suggest is being done to them. The members here on both sides are pointing fingers and abusing each other, Biden fans and obviously Trump fans, so responsibility is not just to one but to everyone in this mess. There have been political divisions in pretty much every single election and every single day because that is human nature but Trump is a derisive divider who bring out the worst in people more than previous politicians. So if people who are zealous follow a politician who abuses people as a platform, what kind of outcome is likely to happen?

    The real solution is to find options which are not so extremist as he is and for people to think of others before running them over. People today actually enjoy having the opportunity and platform to smack each other around, that really is how a schmuck like Trump has an audience, people want to hate each other to put each other down, to divide and fight and annoy, to push their extremist personal views onto society as a whole..versus having society has the objective and leaving your biases and anger inside your head. Trump has given the opportunity for the worst in people to be on parade and to be vocalized, he wrecks society and any unity that might exist otherwise. Inciting to divide for the purpose of sole political aspiration is disgusting and that for sure is why the situation you posed exists right now.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: JUST LIKE...........   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-henry-cuellar-biden-border-enforcement-migrants-face-the-nation/ September 2022; Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas on Sunday urged President Biden to step up enforcement of immigration laws as Republican governors this week ramped up their confrontation with the administration over its border strategy by transporting migrants released from federal custody to Democratic-run cities. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-raid-us-rep-henry-cuellars-texas-home-office-said-tied-azerbaijan-rcna13005 FBI raids the home of Henry Cuellar. Right before his primary! Then; https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/19/henry-cuellar-fbi-raid/ Last January, FBI agents raided U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar’s home and office in Laredo, emerging with a computer and plastic bins and bags containing personal items in a stunning spectacle that occurred just weeks before a tough primary election. The raid cast a shadow over a competitive election year for the longtime Democratic congressman who defended his seat from a progressive in the March primary and then a well-funded and coordinated effort to flip his seat by Republicans in November. Cuellar emerged largely unscathed — soundly winning his November reelection for a 10th term in office. One year later, there have been no arrests or charges filed related to the case. Cuellar maintains that he was never the target of the investigation and will ultimately be cleared of wrongdoing. And the public remains largely in the dark about what set off the investigation.   THIS IS WHAT HITLER DID TO HIS FELLOW PARTY MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T TOW THE LINE. The Bolsheviks did the same, we have some Bolsheviks in this sub forum so be careful around here.....they had show trials and all where they paraded their political opponents (anyone who shared a different view on ANY of the party narratives) up in front of the public for sham trials then sent them off to the gulags.  Which is exactly what the radicals want to do with the MAGAs (and they currently are doing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: JUST LIKE...........   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-henry-cuellar-biden-border-enforcement-migrants-face-the-nation/ September 2022; Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas on Sunday urged President Biden to step up enforcement of immigration laws as Republican governors this week ramped up their confrontation with the administration over its border strategy by transporting migrants released from federal custody to Democratic-run cities. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-raid-us-rep-henry-cuellars-texas-home-office-said-tied-azerbaijan-rcna13005 FBI raids the home of Henry Cuellar. Right before his primary! Then; https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/19/henry-cuellar-fbi-raid/ Last January, FBI agents raided U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar’s home and office in Laredo, emerging with a computer and plastic bins and bags containing personal items in a stunning spectacle that occurred just weeks before a tough primary election. The raid cast a shadow over a competitive election year for the longtime Democratic congressman who defended his seat from a progressive in the March primary and then a well-funded and coordinated effort to flip his seat by Republicans in November. Cuellar emerged largely unscathed — soundly winning his November reelection for a 10th term in office. One year later, there have been no arrests or charges filed related to the case. Cuellar maintains that he was never the target of the investigation and will ultimately be cleared of wrongdoing. And the public remains largely in the dark about what set off the investigation.   THIS IS WHAT HITLER DID TO HIS FELLOW PARTY MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T TOW THE LINE. The Bolsheviks did the same, we have some Bolsheviks in this sub forum so be careful around here.....they had show trials and all where they paraded their political opponents (anyone who shared a different view on ANY of the party narratives) up in front of the public for sham trials then sent them off to the gulags.  Which is exactly what the radicals want to do with the MAGAs (and they currently are doing).

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    bad, bad blitz and he shats on you thru Trump, blames only Trump side. I wonder who taught his side to hate because boy do these peaceful turds hate?

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    bad, bad blitz and he shats on you thru Trump, blames only Trump side. I wonder who taught his side to hate because boy do these peaceful turds hate?

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    What a serious load of crap

     

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     I point out MAGA because that is the group that the regime has been vocal in targeting.  Specifically, Biden's FBI.  But don't kid yourself, the regime is out to protect regime interests and if one of their "own" steps out of line then rest assured they will be targeted appropriately....

    See NYC Mayor Eric Adams for example.  

    I don't discount what you are saying about Trump creating division but the reality behind Trump's entire successful 2016 campaign and subsequent Presidency didn't come as an accident.  What internal and external forces created the environment for him to get elected ??  Similar to 2008 Obama and 2020 Biden, Trump was elected with the mighty help of voters who either had not previously voted (Obama), had not voted since the 90s (Trump) or voted in variance to their historical norms (Biden).  

    Life & the world is cyclical and what we are currently seeing is just another part of the curves of the cycles.  Popular phrase used is "elections have consequences"....yes, history leaves us with the consequences of peoples / societies actions.  This will continue in perpetuity.  

    Obama was the first cog in the last 30 years for the "curve" to be flipped in any significant way.  "Change" was promised based on a previous cycle of GWOT and the failure of the GFC years.  One could successfully argue that Trump was the flip to counter what happened during Obama's time.  We then saw another flip in 2020 with Biden.

    What will be the next direction of the curve?  Do we continue on the path we've seen the last 3 years?  Was the last 3 years enough to result in the pendulum swinging back in the opposite direction?  

    If there is no flip, and we continue until 2028 on this same path, I will guarantee one thing.  The pendulum swing 4 years later is going to be a multiple sigma event and it will not be a smooth thing to witness & experience.    

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     I point out MAGA because that is the group that the regime has been vocal in targeting.  Specifically, Biden's FBI.  But don't kid yourself, the regime is out to protect regime interests and if one of their "own" steps out of line then rest assured they will be targeted appropriately....

    See NYC Mayor Eric Adams for example.  

    I don't discount what you are saying about Trump creating division but the reality behind Trump's entire successful 2016 campaign and subsequent Presidency didn't come as an accident.  What internal and external forces created the environment for him to get elected ??  Similar to 2008 Obama and 2020 Biden, Trump was elected with the mighty help of voters who either had not previously voted (Obama), had not voted since the 90s (Trump) or voted in variance to their historical norms (Biden).  

    Life & the world is cyclical and what we are currently seeing is just another part of the curves of the cycles.  Popular phrase used is "elections have consequences"....yes, history leaves us with the consequences of peoples / societies actions.  This will continue in perpetuity.  

    Obama was the first cog in the last 30 years for the "curve" to be flipped in any significant way.  "Change" was promised based on a previous cycle of GWOT and the failure of the GFC years.  One could successfully argue that Trump was the flip to counter what happened during Obama's time.  We then saw another flip in 2020 with Biden.

    What will be the next direction of the curve?  Do we continue on the path we've seen the last 3 years?  Was the last 3 years enough to result in the pendulum swinging back in the opposite direction?  

    If there is no flip, and we continue until 2028 on this same path, I will guarantee one thing.  The pendulum swing 4 years later is going to be a multiple sigma event and it will not be a smooth thing to witness & experience.    

     
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    @kcblitzkrieg  That is a funny conclusion, that the left side wants to persecute the Trump followers and on face value without being in this society for the last eight years (and for some the last 50 years watching Trump crap all over society) it might make sense. It seems from a one sided narrative that one group is being spotlighted and not in a positive way and as you put it staged to be then thrown into the gulag.  What is missing from your narrative is any reasoning WHY that is the case. Why are these followers disliked as you say, but not to the gulag example I dont think but WHY is this the case? It seems easy enough for me as to the why, so wouldnt it be a better outcome to go to the root of the problem and conclude the entire landscape instead of pinpointing one small section of the whole drama? This forum is a great example of the exact thing I am referencing, there are several Trump loyalists here and I would suggest that most are abusive, condescending, antagonistic and do the same grandstanding that you suggest is being done to them. The members here on both sides are pointing fingers and abusing each other, Biden fans and obviously Trump fans, so responsibility is not just to one but to everyone in this mess. There have been political divisions in pretty much every single election and every single day because that is human nature but Trump is a derisive divider who bring out the worst in people more than previous politicians. So if people who are zealous follow a politician who abuses people as a platform, what kind of outcome is likely to happen? The real solution is to find options which are not so extremist as he is and for people to think of others before running them over. People today actually enjoy having the opportunity and platform to smack each other around, that really is how a schmuck like Trump has an audience, people want to hate each other to put each other down, to divide and fight and annoy, to push their extremist personal views onto society as a whole..versus having society has the objective and leaving your biases and anger inside your head. Trump has given the opportunity for the worst in people to be on parade and to be vocalized, he wrecks society and any unity that might exist otherwise. Inciting to divide for the purpose of sole political aspiration is disgusting and that for sure is why the situation you posed exists right now.

    It's not a ""funny"" conclusion at all.  It all makes perfect sense if you pay attention to the facts .  I already outlined them in an earlier post  ;  

    2 impeachments,

    a sham Mueller investigation about Russia Collusion (which conveniently ended "After" the 2018 mid-term election)

    91 charges on Trump for anything the DEMs can get their arms around, following Stalin's mantra ""Show me the Man,... I'll show you the crime!!""  

     

    The DEMs hate Trump just as much as Trump followers, but they are going after the tip of the spear in an effort to kill the whole movement.   DEMs will  do all they can to keep Trump from the WH ever again..... and yet, you ask ""Why"" all this is taking place.  

    The answer to this question  is quite obvious.

     

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    @kcblitzkrieg  That is a funny conclusion, that the left side wants to persecute the Trump followers and on face value without being in this society for the last eight years (and for some the last 50 years watching Trump crap all over society) it might make sense. It seems from a one sided narrative that one group is being spotlighted and not in a positive way and as you put it staged to be then thrown into the gulag.  What is missing from your narrative is any reasoning WHY that is the case. Why are these followers disliked as you say, but not to the gulag example I dont think but WHY is this the case? It seems easy enough for me as to the why, so wouldnt it be a better outcome to go to the root of the problem and conclude the entire landscape instead of pinpointing one small section of the whole drama? This forum is a great example of the exact thing I am referencing, there are several Trump loyalists here and I would suggest that most are abusive, condescending, antagonistic and do the same grandstanding that you suggest is being done to them. The members here on both sides are pointing fingers and abusing each other, Biden fans and obviously Trump fans, so responsibility is not just to one but to everyone in this mess. There have been political divisions in pretty much every single election and every single day because that is human nature but Trump is a derisive divider who bring out the worst in people more than previous politicians. So if people who are zealous follow a politician who abuses people as a platform, what kind of outcome is likely to happen? The real solution is to find options which are not so extremist as he is and for people to think of others before running them over. People today actually enjoy having the opportunity and platform to smack each other around, that really is how a schmuck like Trump has an audience, people want to hate each other to put each other down, to divide and fight and annoy, to push their extremist personal views onto society as a whole..versus having society has the objective and leaving your biases and anger inside your head. Trump has given the opportunity for the worst in people to be on parade and to be vocalized, he wrecks society and any unity that might exist otherwise. Inciting to divide for the purpose of sole political aspiration is disgusting and that for sure is why the situation you posed exists right now.

    It's not a ""funny"" conclusion at all.  It all makes perfect sense if you pay attention to the facts .  I already outlined them in an earlier post  ;  

    2 impeachments,

    a sham Mueller investigation about Russia Collusion (which conveniently ended "After" the 2018 mid-term election)

    91 charges on Trump for anything the DEMs can get their arms around, following Stalin's mantra ""Show me the Man,... I'll show you the crime!!""  

     

    The DEMs hate Trump just as much as Trump followers, but they are going after the tip of the spear in an effort to kill the whole movement.   DEMs will  do all they can to keep Trump from the WH ever again..... and yet, you ask ""Why"" all this is taking place.  

    The answer to this question  is quite obvious.

     

     
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     Your reply lacks consistency and has too much bias. You are one of the group who is thinking the way that I outlined because you are partisan, you are angry you do blame the other side and you want to support a toxic divisive candidate. You are that fringe group who thinks that your personal biases and beliefs are best for society and you vote based on your narrative versus thinking of what is best for others who are not like you.

    Does impeachment mean anything? It is a dog chew toy since Clinton and it has no value, so too bad that Trump made enemies and they found reason to go after him..they tried to go after Obama, they are trying to go after Biden so it seems that it is a political waste of time ploy to throw that out there every election cycle but it has no impact. How could someone as you say who had those events, who is hip deep in a fraud case and many other cases STILL be a candidate? It means the public is so divided and blinded by the megaphone that is Trump he still is around, that is the best sign and indicator of EXACTLY my point. 

    Politics now is a divisive, extremist, angry, nasty out in the open forum now and people actually engage with tearing each other down because of political differences. The reason why the MAGA group gets heat is they bring it on themselves from extremism. Such shocking, disgusting extremism that it sickens others and brings a sense of disgust for those who are not in the middle of your mania.

    A great example of my point is how you had a religious goof ball be VP, someone  who has shocking and inappropriate views being the VP and nobody even went after the guy, to me Pence is a religious extremist and cannot properly act as a public servant for the whole, he is too biased and yet Trump is so blaringly horrible and even more extreme that you had Pence just sitting there with his right wing Christian agenda and it was not even approached. Same goes for the current wack job speaker, this guy is like Pence and even a little further...if you read about his beliefs it is shocking that he is the best the GOP had and only in ultra conservative zoned political area could a guy like that get elected and yet he is speaker. Hardly anyone even knows what a disaster he is and an extremist who should be nowhere near a position of great importance, he cannot properly legislate for those who are not like him, the views are too extreme. Yet not much of any spotlight is on him because Trump is the gutter the open sewer trenches of India of US politics, he is so bad there is nobody who could be worse. The only way the spotlight goes off him is if David Duke got back in the ring, Trump is wrecking everything because that is how he thinks he can win, by being the loudest, most obnoxious, most toxic and abusive guy in the room so nobody else but him will be the center of attention.

    THAT is why the MAGA group who tries to elevate him are disliked, when you try to mirror abhorrent then that might get a negative reaction from others who do not share your extremist position.

    Same goes for your side, you think some of the left stuff is extreme and you are VERY VERY angry about it, on a lesser scale it is similar and that might give you context (or not)

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     Your reply lacks consistency and has too much bias. You are one of the group who is thinking the way that I outlined because you are partisan, you are angry you do blame the other side and you want to support a toxic divisive candidate. You are that fringe group who thinks that your personal biases and beliefs are best for society and you vote based on your narrative versus thinking of what is best for others who are not like you.

    Does impeachment mean anything? It is a dog chew toy since Clinton and it has no value, so too bad that Trump made enemies and they found reason to go after him..they tried to go after Obama, they are trying to go after Biden so it seems that it is a political waste of time ploy to throw that out there every election cycle but it has no impact. How could someone as you say who had those events, who is hip deep in a fraud case and many other cases STILL be a candidate? It means the public is so divided and blinded by the megaphone that is Trump he still is around, that is the best sign and indicator of EXACTLY my point. 

    Politics now is a divisive, extremist, angry, nasty out in the open forum now and people actually engage with tearing each other down because of political differences. The reason why the MAGA group gets heat is they bring it on themselves from extremism. Such shocking, disgusting extremism that it sickens others and brings a sense of disgust for those who are not in the middle of your mania.

    A great example of my point is how you had a religious goof ball be VP, someone  who has shocking and inappropriate views being the VP and nobody even went after the guy, to me Pence is a religious extremist and cannot properly act as a public servant for the whole, he is too biased and yet Trump is so blaringly horrible and even more extreme that you had Pence just sitting there with his right wing Christian agenda and it was not even approached. Same goes for the current wack job speaker, this guy is like Pence and even a little further...if you read about his beliefs it is shocking that he is the best the GOP had and only in ultra conservative zoned political area could a guy like that get elected and yet he is speaker. Hardly anyone even knows what a disaster he is and an extremist who should be nowhere near a position of great importance, he cannot properly legislate for those who are not like him, the views are too extreme. Yet not much of any spotlight is on him because Trump is the gutter the open sewer trenches of India of US politics, he is so bad there is nobody who could be worse. The only way the spotlight goes off him is if David Duke got back in the ring, Trump is wrecking everything because that is how he thinks he can win, by being the loudest, most obnoxious, most toxic and abusive guy in the room so nobody else but him will be the center of attention.

    THAT is why the MAGA group who tries to elevate him are disliked, when you try to mirror abhorrent then that might get a negative reaction from others who do not share your extremist position.

    Same goes for your side, you think some of the left stuff is extreme and you are VERY VERY angry about it, on a lesser scale it is similar and that might give you context (or not)

     
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    And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls.

    Hmmmmm.

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    Biden nominated Sara Hill for Federal Judge in Oklahoma. When asked a simple judicial question; What is the difference of a Stay order and an Injunction order this was her reply;

    "A stay order would prohibit, um, sorry. An injunction would restrain the parties from taking action. A stay order … I'm not sure I can, actually can, can give you that," she said.

    Carrie Severino, constitutional lawyer and president of the Judicial Crisis Network, commented on X (formerly Twitter) about the exchange by saying, "How can an individual who wants to be a federal judge possibly not know this?" an_eek2

    Chair Senator Dick Durbin, Democrat from Illinois, congratulated Hill afterward for sucessfully answering the questions. an_eek2an_eek2an_eek2

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    Biden nominated Sara Hill for Federal Judge in Oklahoma. When asked a simple judicial question; What is the difference of a Stay order and an Injunction order this was her reply;

    "A stay order would prohibit, um, sorry. An injunction would restrain the parties from taking action. A stay order … I'm not sure I can, actually can, can give you that," she said.

    Carrie Severino, constitutional lawyer and president of the Judicial Crisis Network, commented on X (formerly Twitter) about the exchange by saying, "How can an individual who wants to be a federal judge possibly not know this?" an_eek2

    Chair Senator Dick Durbin, Democrat from Illinois, congratulated Hill afterward for sucessfully answering the questions. an_eek2an_eek2an_eek2

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls. Hmmmmm.

    Funny. Last election cycle I could have sworn you consistently claimed you never trust any polls because they are always wrong. confused

    It seems like you only trust the polls when they support your preferences. peace_5

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    And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls. Hmmmmm.

    Funny. Last election cycle I could have sworn you consistently claimed you never trust any polls because they are always wrong. confused

    It seems like you only trust the polls when they support your preferences. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls. Hmmmmm. Funny. Last election cycle I could have sworn you consistently claimed you never trust any polls because they are always wrong.  It seems like you only trust the polls when they support your preferences.

    Oh, I really take each one with a grain of salt, especially those from Left wing loving media outlets. The fact they are currently sounding the alarm......

    The point was calling those who defend Trump "fringe" when the entire majority of a country is now leaning Trump carries no weight. So here you have this potty mouth former president facing 90+ charges LEADING the current admin. an_lightHow bad do you have to be to get into that position? How could Trump, who could do nothing right in your mind be leading or even equal to what we have now? 

    Think the "FRINGE" are the ones saying the word fringe. 

    If the left didn't look like and still look like a pack of viscous hyenas taking down a zebra at the waterhole bite by graphic bite Trump won't have this popularity. Thinking once we complete the kill will end this...... is a mistake. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls. Hmmmmm. Funny. Last election cycle I could have sworn you consistently claimed you never trust any polls because they are always wrong.  It seems like you only trust the polls when they support your preferences.

    Oh, I really take each one with a grain of salt, especially those from Left wing loving media outlets. The fact they are currently sounding the alarm......

    The point was calling those who defend Trump "fringe" when the entire majority of a country is now leaning Trump carries no weight. So here you have this potty mouth former president facing 90+ charges LEADING the current admin. an_lightHow bad do you have to be to get into that position? How could Trump, who could do nothing right in your mind be leading or even equal to what we have now? 

    Think the "FRINGE" are the ones saying the word fringe. 

    If the left didn't look like and still look like a pack of viscous hyenas taking down a zebra at the waterhole bite by graphic bite Trump won't have this popularity. Thinking once we complete the kill will end this...... is a mistake. 

     

     
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    Every time Joe opens his mouth Blinken is looking like he shat himself....

     

    Xi also wasn't in town to meet with Hologram Joe....the real power players he was here to visit with:  

    Larry Fink - BlackRock

    Stephen Schwarzman - BlackStone

    Tim Cook - Apple 

    Elon - Tesla / X (did not stay for the dinner, only the VIP reception) 

    Albert Bourla - Pfizer 

     

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    Every time Joe opens his mouth Blinken is looking like he shat himself....

     

    Xi also wasn't in town to meet with Hologram Joe....the real power players he was here to visit with:  

    Larry Fink - BlackRock

    Stephen Schwarzman - BlackStone

    Tim Cook - Apple 

    Elon - Tesla / X (did not stay for the dinner, only the VIP reception) 

    Albert Bourla - Pfizer 

     

     
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    https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1724915618040721902

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     What does it say that the GOP cannot find any middle common unifying politician? Trump being one indicator, the speaker joke being the second. How is it that the GOP allows trash to represent them? Dividing, antagonistic, sexist, abusive, then radical religious out of touch representatives?

    What you are partisan finger pointing towards the DNC can easily be said about your side as well. You have no unifying common ground options, you have radical, extremists who trash everyone and a few who are left to try and find a place amongst the wacko fringe which is what the GOP has become over the last 10 years or so.

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     What does it say that the GOP cannot find any middle common unifying politician? Trump being one indicator, the speaker joke being the second. How is it that the GOP allows trash to represent them? Dividing, antagonistic, sexist, abusive, then radical religious out of touch representatives?

    What you are partisan finger pointing towards the DNC can easily be said about your side as well. You have no unifying common ground options, you have radical, extremists who trash everyone and a few who are left to try and find a place amongst the wacko fringe which is what the GOP has become over the last 10 years or so.

     
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    @UNIMAN  What does it say that the GOP cannot find any middle common unifying politician? Trump being one indicator, the speaker joke being the second. How is it that the GOP allows trash to represent them? Dividing, antagonistic, sexist, abusive, then radical religious out of touch representatives? What you are partisan finger pointing towards the DNC can easily be said about your side as well. You have no unifying common ground options, you have radical, extremists who trash everyone and a few who are left to try and find a place amongst the wacko fringe which is what the GOP has become over the last 10 years or so.

    This is the curve I was talking about....balance to counter balance....ying to yang....whatever you want to call it.  These things happen over decades.  Four year POTUS cycles are just part of the equation.  Bush - Obama - Trump - Biden....who is next will help determine what direction you see the cycle either continue or flip direction.  

    Trump = radicals on LEFT will get more radical in their quest to reverse new course.  

    Biden (whoever they replace him with) = same direction.  RIGHT will divide more.  

    The net affect on both sides is that those people in the middle get dragged along in either direction, regardless of their opposition to the radical side. 

    Middle LEFT people will by default become considered MORE RIGHT because they don't follow along with the "change".  This is what you've seen the last 4-5 years already.  

    Middle RIGHT people will become considered MORE LEFT as the pendulum swings right.  This is what is likely to happen if Trump wins.  Which takes me back to the cycles point, no matter who your 2024 candidates will be.... Trump / Biden / Newsome (top 3 odds as of now) they will ALL create more division amongst the identity politics population (everyone basically).  So regardless, 2024 - 2028 is going to be more of the same.  

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    @UNIMAN  What does it say that the GOP cannot find any middle common unifying politician? Trump being one indicator, the speaker joke being the second. How is it that the GOP allows trash to represent them? Dividing, antagonistic, sexist, abusive, then radical religious out of touch representatives? What you are partisan finger pointing towards the DNC can easily be said about your side as well. You have no unifying common ground options, you have radical, extremists who trash everyone and a few who are left to try and find a place amongst the wacko fringe which is what the GOP has become over the last 10 years or so.

    This is the curve I was talking about....balance to counter balance....ying to yang....whatever you want to call it.  These things happen over decades.  Four year POTUS cycles are just part of the equation.  Bush - Obama - Trump - Biden....who is next will help determine what direction you see the cycle either continue or flip direction.  

    Trump = radicals on LEFT will get more radical in their quest to reverse new course.  

    Biden (whoever they replace him with) = same direction.  RIGHT will divide more.  

    The net affect on both sides is that those people in the middle get dragged along in either direction, regardless of their opposition to the radical side. 

    Middle LEFT people will by default become considered MORE RIGHT because they don't follow along with the "change".  This is what you've seen the last 4-5 years already.  

    Middle RIGHT people will become considered MORE LEFT as the pendulum swings right.  This is what is likely to happen if Trump wins.  Which takes me back to the cycles point, no matter who your 2024 candidates will be.... Trump / Biden / Newsome (top 3 odds as of now) they will ALL create more division amongst the identity politics population (everyone basically).  So regardless, 2024 - 2028 is going to be more of the same.  

     
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    seriously.... poor guy....

    https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1725516567763456393

     

     

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    seriously.... poor guy....

    https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1725516567763456393

     

     

     
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    Yeah, if your looking for a politician or the govt to unify my advice is don't hold your breath. And if you have a problem with people that practice religion...........can't help ya.

    Right after the 2016 election all we heard was "illegitimate president". "Russia did it".  Then I hear that the president is the one who is the divider. Yeah right. He wasn't even sworn in and the attacks, both illegal and false, had already begun. 

    IMO, until MSM straightens out (and they never will) the division continues.

     

    Just saw this one; Politico Oct 2020; 

    President Donald Trump loves to say that if Joe Biden wins the White House, stocks will crash, retirement accounts will vanish and an economic depression “the likes of which you’ve never seen” will engulf the nation. But much of Wall Street is already betting on a Biden win — with a much different take on what the results will mean.

     

    CBSNEWS June 2022; The U.S. stock market rout that has put U.S. equities in a bear market isn't just reducing the net worth of billionaires like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. The selloff has erased nearly $3 trillion from U.S. retirement accounts, according to Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College. By her calculations, 401k plan participants have lost about $1.4 trillion from their accounts since the end of 2021. People with IRAs — most of which are 401(k) rollovers — have lost $2 trillion this year.

    I know, I know, it wasn't failed Biden policies, continued overspending, encouraging war in Ukraine, etc. It was ZIRP!!!

     

    This kinda stuff is everywhere. From wide open border disasters, higher energy costs, to creating war and more. That big mouth Trump called it, MSM denied it, and here we are.

     

     

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    Yeah, if your looking for a politician or the govt to unify my advice is don't hold your breath. And if you have a problem with people that practice religion...........can't help ya.

    Right after the 2016 election all we heard was "illegitimate president". "Russia did it".  Then I hear that the president is the one who is the divider. Yeah right. He wasn't even sworn in and the attacks, both illegal and false, had already begun. 

    IMO, until MSM straightens out (and they never will) the division continues.

     

    Just saw this one; Politico Oct 2020; 

    President Donald Trump loves to say that if Joe Biden wins the White House, stocks will crash, retirement accounts will vanish and an economic depression “the likes of which you’ve never seen” will engulf the nation. But much of Wall Street is already betting on a Biden win — with a much different take on what the results will mean.

     

    CBSNEWS June 2022; The U.S. stock market rout that has put U.S. equities in a bear market isn't just reducing the net worth of billionaires like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. The selloff has erased nearly $3 trillion from U.S. retirement accounts, according to Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College. By her calculations, 401k plan participants have lost about $1.4 trillion from their accounts since the end of 2021. People with IRAs — most of which are 401(k) rollovers — have lost $2 trillion this year.

    I know, I know, it wasn't failed Biden policies, continued overspending, encouraging war in Ukraine, etc. It was ZIRP!!!

     

    This kinda stuff is everywhere. From wide open border disasters, higher energy costs, to creating war and more. That big mouth Trump called it, MSM denied it, and here we are.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls. Hmmmmm. Funny. Last election cycle I could have sworn you consistently claimed you never trust any polls because they are always wrong.  It seems like you only trust the polls when they support your preferences. Oh, I really take each one with a grain of salt, especially those from Left wing loving media outlets. The fact they are currently sounding the alarm...... The point was calling those who defend Trump "fringe" when the entire majority of a country is now leaning Trump carries no weight. So here you have this potty mouth former president facing 90+ charges LEADING the current admin. How bad do you have to be to get into that position? How could Trump, who could do nothing right in your mind be leading or even equal to what we have now?  Think the "FRINGE" are the ones saying the word fringe.  If the left didn't look like and still look like a pack of viscous hyenas taking down a zebra at the waterhole bite by graphic bite Trump won't have this popularity. Thinking once we complete the kill will end this...... is a mistake.

    The point is that you should not be trusting any of the polls since you claim they are not reliable (right or left). The polls do not show anyone on left is sounding the alarm. I think it was one poll showing Trump leading by a percentage point in the 5 swing states, which is essentially dead even with a sitting president that most on the right consider a corpse. Hardly, a ringing endorsement for Trump either.  I am hoping neither ends up being candidates, which I think is a strong possibility. Certainly, should not be putting stock into any polls a year away from election with such bad candidates for each side. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: And yet Trump is leading all candidates, Dems or Repubs in the polls. Hmmmmm. Funny. Last election cycle I could have sworn you consistently claimed you never trust any polls because they are always wrong.  It seems like you only trust the polls when they support your preferences. Oh, I really take each one with a grain of salt, especially those from Left wing loving media outlets. The fact they are currently sounding the alarm...... The point was calling those who defend Trump "fringe" when the entire majority of a country is now leaning Trump carries no weight. So here you have this potty mouth former president facing 90+ charges LEADING the current admin. How bad do you have to be to get into that position? How could Trump, who could do nothing right in your mind be leading or even equal to what we have now?  Think the "FRINGE" are the ones saying the word fringe.  If the left didn't look like and still look like a pack of viscous hyenas taking down a zebra at the waterhole bite by graphic bite Trump won't have this popularity. Thinking once we complete the kill will end this...... is a mistake.

    The point is that you should not be trusting any of the polls since you claim they are not reliable (right or left). The polls do not show anyone on left is sounding the alarm. I think it was one poll showing Trump leading by a percentage point in the 5 swing states, which is essentially dead even with a sitting president that most on the right consider a corpse. Hardly, a ringing endorsement for Trump either.  I am hoping neither ends up being candidates, which I think is a strong possibility. Certainly, should not be putting stock into any polls a year away from election with such bad candidates for each side. an_light

     
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    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden-trump-democrats-swing-state-polling

     DEM'S SOUND ALARM ON BIDEN'S 2024 CHANCES. an_popcorn

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/03/trump-2024-victory-00109534

    https://www.businessinsider.com/its-absolutely-possible-trump-wins-the-2024-election-2023-9

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/politics/trump-second-term-president-election-2024/index.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.html

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/polls-trump-leads-biden.html

    https://www.slu.edu/research/research-institute/big-ideas/slu-poll/data-archive/june-2020-poll/trump-biden.php

     

    I could go on and on. One simple Google search provides link after link. Biden will never run next year that's for sure.

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    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden-trump-democrats-swing-state-polling

     DEM'S SOUND ALARM ON BIDEN'S 2024 CHANCES. an_popcorn

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/03/trump-2024-victory-00109534

    https://www.businessinsider.com/its-absolutely-possible-trump-wins-the-2024-election-2023-9

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/politics/trump-second-term-president-election-2024/index.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.html

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/polls-trump-leads-biden.html

    https://www.slu.edu/research/research-institute/big-ideas/slu-poll/data-archive/june-2020-poll/trump-biden.php

     

    I could go on and on. One simple Google search provides link after link. Biden will never run next year that's for sure.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden-trump-democrats-swing-state-polling  DEM'S SOUND ALARM ON BIDEN'S 2024 CHANCES.  https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/03/trump-2024-victory-00109534 https://www.businessinsider.com/its-absolutely-possible-trump-wins-the-2024-election-2023-9 https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/politics/trump-second-term-president-election-2024/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/polls-trump-leads-biden.html https://www.slu.edu/research/research-institute/big-ideas/slu-poll/data-archive/june-2020-poll/trump-biden.php   I could go on and on. One simple Google search provides link after link. Biden will never run next year that's for sure.

    Haa. Axios, New York Times, and CNN. Ironically, these are all sources you consistently slam. Too funny. Sky is falling because trump is dead even or up 1 point in a 3000 person poll among 5 states. Hilarious. Means nothing like I said considering circumstances, future trials, and how far away the election is. peace_5 Here is hoping neither is on the ticket, which is a very strong possibility. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden-trump-democrats-swing-state-polling  DEM'S SOUND ALARM ON BIDEN'S 2024 CHANCES.  https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/03/trump-2024-victory-00109534 https://www.businessinsider.com/its-absolutely-possible-trump-wins-the-2024-election-2023-9 https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/politics/trump-second-term-president-election-2024/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/politics/biden-trump-2024-poll.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/polls-trump-leads-biden.html https://www.slu.edu/research/research-institute/big-ideas/slu-poll/data-archive/june-2020-poll/trump-biden.php   I could go on and on. One simple Google search provides link after link. Biden will never run next year that's for sure.

    Haa. Axios, New York Times, and CNN. Ironically, these are all sources you consistently slam. Too funny. Sky is falling because trump is dead even or up 1 point in a 3000 person poll among 5 states. Hilarious. Means nothing like I said considering circumstances, future trials, and how far away the election is. peace_5 Here is hoping neither is on the ticket, which is a very strong possibility. an_light

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