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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2023 - 9:05 AM ET #701

    Media matters reveal Fox news is recklessly encouraging House republicans to engage in debt ceiling hostage taking to force policy changes that Americans don't want.  For examples, spending cuts to social security, medicare, veteran benefits, education, research and others.

    Created by congress,  debt ceiling's impractical goal of limiting deficit spending has never been achieved.  In over 50 years, debt ceiling has been increased over 60 times because of legal obligations.  Instead of spending cuts, history shows deficit reduction is best achieved by more tax revenue via economic growth.  Since debt default would be disastrous, artificial debt ceiling is useless and potentially dangerous for US economy.

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    Media matters reveal Fox news is recklessly encouraging House republicans to engage in debt ceiling hostage taking to force policy changes that Americans don't want.  For examples, spending cuts to social security, medicare, veteran benefits, education, research and others.

    Created by congress,  debt ceiling's impractical goal of limiting deficit spending has never been achieved.  In over 50 years, debt ceiling has been increased over 60 times because of legal obligations.  Instead of spending cuts, history shows deficit reduction is best achieved by more tax revenue via economic growth.  Since debt default would be disastrous, artificial debt ceiling is useless and potentially dangerous for US economy.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2023 - 9:40 AM ET #702

    an_roll_laughAlways pulling the medicare social security crap out your hat. Scare tactics. an_nailbiter

    That would be political suicide and everybody knows it. 

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    an_roll_laughAlways pulling the medicare social security crap out your hat. Scare tactics. an_nailbiter

    That would be political suicide and everybody knows it. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2023 - 9:15 PM ET #703

    cut from USA TODAY  Tue, Jan. 17 ::

     


    Fact check: Biden did have the authority to declassify documents as vice president

     

    The claim: Biden did not have the authority to declassify documents as vice president
    A Jan. 12 Instagram reel (direct link, archived link) shows a clip of President Joe Biden answering a question from Fox News' Peter Doocy about a batch of classified documents that were found at Biden's home.

    "This Clown show is going to need a bigger tent," reads the post's caption. "Biden did NOT have the authority to declassify documents that were classified in his position of Vice President during the Obama administration. Only the President can declassify, classified documents, not the Vice President. So why were these documents in his possession?"


    Our rating: False!

    Legal experts told USA TODAY that Biden had the authority to declassify documents as vice president as the result of a 2009 executive order signed by President Barack Obama.

    House Republicans are launching an investigation after Biden’s attorneys found classified documents dating back to his years as vice president at his private office in Washington D.C. and in the garage of one of his Delaware homes.
    The revelation has prompted comparisons between Biden's case and the discovery of classified records at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022.

    But this claim is wrong about the nature of Biden's classification power.

    The claim that Biden did not have the authority to declassify documents as vice president is “complete nonsense,” Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm, told USA TODAY in an email.

     

     

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    cut from USA TODAY  Tue, Jan. 17 ::

     


    Fact check: Biden did have the authority to declassify documents as vice president

     

    The claim: Biden did not have the authority to declassify documents as vice president
    A Jan. 12 Instagram reel (direct link, archived link) shows a clip of President Joe Biden answering a question from Fox News' Peter Doocy about a batch of classified documents that were found at Biden's home.

    "This Clown show is going to need a bigger tent," reads the post's caption. "Biden did NOT have the authority to declassify documents that were classified in his position of Vice President during the Obama administration. Only the President can declassify, classified documents, not the Vice President. So why were these documents in his possession?"


    Our rating: False!

    Legal experts told USA TODAY that Biden had the authority to declassify documents as vice president as the result of a 2009 executive order signed by President Barack Obama.

    House Republicans are launching an investigation after Biden’s attorneys found classified documents dating back to his years as vice president at his private office in Washington D.C. and in the garage of one of his Delaware homes.
    The revelation has prompted comparisons between Biden's case and the discovery of classified records at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022.

    But this claim is wrong about the nature of Biden's classification power.

    The claim that Biden did not have the authority to declassify documents as vice president is “complete nonsense,” Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a public-interest law firm, told USA TODAY in an email.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2023 - 9:23 AM ET #704

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45: One could make the argument that the New York Times is the written version of talk radio.   one could .  but then one could shove his hand into an open electrical outlet too both ideas have the same merit

     

     

    pure idiocy

     

    an_roll_laugh

     

    This are your vulnerable person.

     

    Doja45 is absolutely correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45: One could make the argument that the New York Times is the written version of talk radio.   one could .  but then one could shove his hand into an open electrical outlet too both ideas have the same merit

     

     

    pure idiocy

     

    an_roll_laugh

     

    This are your vulnerable person.

     

    Doja45 is absolutely correct.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 10:24 AM ET #705

    Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states.  Compared to Japan or England, California has among the weakest gun laws in the world.  US has the highest gun homicide rate among major nations.

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    Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states.  Compared to Japan or England, California has among the weakest gun laws in the world.  US has the highest gun homicide rate among major nations.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 6:32 PM ET #706

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states.  Compared to Japan or England, California has among the weakest gun laws in the world.  US has the highest gun homicide rate among major nations.
    Yeah, Fox is to blame.an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states.  Compared to Japan or England, California has among the weakest gun laws in the world.  US has the highest gun homicide rate among major nations.
    Yeah, Fox is to blame.an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 8:33 PM ET #707

    Too funny... Cali has the strictest laws...blaming fox news,  Republicans,  climate..pure comedy... people can guns anytime anywhere.. let's try arresting and severely punish the perps... safer places are safe because they enforce the law.... possible criminals may think before they try to commit a crime.  Here, crime is encouraged,  and now it pays...

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    Too funny... Cali has the strictest laws...blaming fox news,  Republicans,  climate..pure comedy... people can guns anytime anywhere.. let's try arresting and severely punish the perps... safer places are safe because they enforce the law.... possible criminals may think before they try to commit a crime.  Here, crime is encouraged,  and now it pays...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 8:45 PM ET #708

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states.  Compared to Japan or England, California has among the weakest gun laws in the world.  US has the highest gun homicide rate among major nations.

     

    Yeah, Fox is to blame.

     

    yep      fux news    thumbs_down

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states.  Compared to Japan or England, California has among the weakest gun laws in the world.  US has the highest gun homicide rate among major nations.

     

    Yeah, Fox is to blame.

     

    yep      fux news    thumbs_down

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states. 

    Valid points as usual, Thirdperson!  peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Disgraceful that Fox news hasn't done a damn thing about improving gun safety for decades, but instead falsely claims mass shootings in California prove that gun laws don't work.  Actually, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the US.    Its rate of mass shooting is below the national average.  Problem is that guns are easy to obtain from other states. 

    Valid points as usual, Thirdperson!  peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 9:55 PM ET #710

    Gun deaths...

    1... Texas...3683

    2...California.. 2945

    Invalid points as usual...

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    Gun deaths...

    1... Texas...3683

    2...California.. 2945

    Invalid points as usual...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2023 - 2:43 PM ET #711

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Gun deaths...

     

    1... Texas...3683

    2...California.. 2945

    Invalid points as usual...

      confused   confused

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Gun deaths...

     

    1... Texas...3683

    2...California.. 2945

    Invalid points as usual...

      confused   confused

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2023 - 3:15 PM ET #712

    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    this whole notion that you can not depend on the world's top 100 newspapers to get your basic news info is frankly bizarre and scary. "I don't trust the New York Times so I'll go to Newsmax or OAN" is frankly  LOL..

    Speaking of which . . .

     

    DirecTV drops Newsmax!!


    New York CNN —

        DirecTV has dropped Newsmax, a right-wing TV network,
    from its channel lineup.
        Newsmax disappeared from the lineup early Tuesday morning,
    affecting 13 million customers who use DirecTV’s satellite service,
    DirecTV Stream and U-Verse.


    Meanwhile, OAN was dropped from DirecTV last year.
         That move was a significant blow to the fringe outlet
    Through the years, OAN has promoted conspiracy theories and
    outright lies on a number of issues, including the results of the
    2020 presidential election and the coronavirus pandemic.

    Trump favored OAN because it was willing to advance his election lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    this whole notion that you can not depend on the world's top 100 newspapers to get your basic news info is frankly bizarre and scary. "I don't trust the New York Times so I'll go to Newsmax or OAN" is frankly  LOL..

    Speaking of which . . .

     

    DirecTV drops Newsmax!!


    New York CNN —

        DirecTV has dropped Newsmax, a right-wing TV network,
    from its channel lineup.
        Newsmax disappeared from the lineup early Tuesday morning,
    affecting 13 million customers who use DirecTV’s satellite service,
    DirecTV Stream and U-Verse.


    Meanwhile, OAN was dropped from DirecTV last year.
         That move was a significant blow to the fringe outlet
    Through the years, OAN has promoted conspiracy theories and
    outright lies on a number of issues, including the results of the
    2020 presidential election and the coronavirus pandemic.

    Trump favored OAN because it was willing to advance his election lies.

     
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    Before the 2016 election, most Americans trusted the traditional media and the trend was positive, according to the Edelman Trust Barometer. The phrase “fake news” was limited to a few reporters and a newly organized social media watchdog. The idea that the media were “enemies of the American people” was voiced only once, just before the election on an obscure podcast, and not by Trump, according to a Nexis search.

    Today, the US media has the lowest credibility—26 percent—among forty-six nations, according to a 2022 study by the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism. In 2021, 83 percent of Americans saw “fake news” as a “problem,” and 56 percent—mostly Republicans and independents—agreed that the media were “truly the enemy of the American people,” according to Rasmussen Reports.

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    Before the 2016 election, most Americans trusted the traditional media and the trend was positive, according to the Edelman Trust Barometer. The phrase “fake news” was limited to a few reporters and a newly organized social media watchdog. The idea that the media were “enemies of the American people” was voiced only once, just before the election on an obscure podcast, and not by Trump, according to a Nexis search.

    Today, the US media has the lowest credibility—26 percent—among forty-six nations, according to a 2022 study by the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism. In 2021, 83 percent of Americans saw “fake news” as a “problem,” and 56 percent—mostly Republicans and independents—agreed that the media were “truly the enemy of the American people,” according to Rasmussen Reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    the US media has the lowest credibility—26 percent—among forty-six nations, according to a 2022 study by the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism.

    Widest selection of news sources in history increase difficulty of distinguishing between good and bad journalism.  Disturbing that many people get their information from unreliable sources.  Oxford study reveals that social media and far right sources dominate deliberate use of fake news.  Pew research found that in 2021, 78% of democrats and 35% of republicans trust national news sources.  34% of democrats and 19% of republicans trust social media.  Key difference is that democrats tend to view a variety of news sources while republicans rely on fewer sources.  Nowadays, constantly searching for better information is needed to determine what is trustworthy.  To have a highly educated country requires trust in science, school and media.

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    the US media has the lowest credibility—26 percent—among forty-six nations, according to a 2022 study by the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism.

    Widest selection of news sources in history increase difficulty of distinguishing between good and bad journalism.  Disturbing that many people get their information from unreliable sources.  Oxford study reveals that social media and far right sources dominate deliberate use of fake news.  Pew research found that in 2021, 78% of democrats and 35% of republicans trust national news sources.  34% of democrats and 19% of republicans trust social media.  Key difference is that democrats tend to view a variety of news sources while republicans rely on fewer sources.  Nowadays, constantly searching for better information is needed to determine what is trustworthy.  To have a highly educated country requires trust in science, school and media.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2023 - 7:23 AM ET #715

    Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene:
    Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’

     

    Meanwhile Fox's Carlson has described the attack, in which a mob
    armed with guns, pipes and other weapons beat police,
    wounding 150 officers and resulting in the suicide of
    four cops, as a “nonviolent election protest.”   confused

    His absurdist characterizations conflict with the countless
    hours of video of the attack as well as reporting from his
    own colleagues who witnessed it first hand.

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    Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene:
    Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’

     

    Meanwhile Fox's Carlson has described the attack, in which a mob
    armed with guns, pipes and other weapons beat police,
    wounding 150 officers and resulting in the suicide of
    four cops, as a “nonviolent election protest.”   confused

    His absurdist characterizations conflict with the countless
    hours of video of the attack as well as reporting from his
    own colleagues who witnessed it first hand.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2023 - 9:10 AM ET #716

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’ 

    Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.

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    Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’ 

    Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2023 - 9:22 AM ET #717

    Ashli Babbitt was on her hands and knees, unarmed when shot. an_light

    So police of the United States, OK to shoot unarmed on their hands and knees.......GO!!!

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    Ashli Babbitt was on her hands and knees, unarmed when shot. an_light

    So police of the United States, OK to shoot unarmed on their hands and knees.......GO!!!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2023 - 9:35 AM ET #718

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.

     

    Exactly.  peace_5 During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor.

    Intelligent people do understand this.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.

     

    Exactly.  peace_5 During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor.

    Intelligent people do understand this.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2023 - 9:16 AM ET #719

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

     

    Then please explain to me how YOU were able to understand this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

     

    Then please explain to me how YOU were able to understand this?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

     

    Then there are those who don't understand this.......

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

     

    Then there are those who don't understand this.......

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

     

    Then there are those who don't understand this.......

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

     

    Then there are those who don't understand this.......

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2023 - 11:16 AM ET #722

    Media matters reveal that right wing media is falsely suggesting democrats are no different than republicans in threatening social safety net.  Historically, democrat reforms aim to expand access, increase benefits and make the rich pay their fair share.  But for decades, republicans try to restrict access, reduce spending and oppose tax increases.

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    Media matters reveal that right wing media is falsely suggesting democrats are no different than republicans in threatening social safety net.  Historically, democrat reforms aim to expand access, increase benefits and make the rich pay their fair share.  But for decades, republicans try to restrict access, reduce spending and oppose tax increases.

     
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    IRS goes after tips. an_light

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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2023 - 12:30 PM ET #724

    California continues to lead the nation in mass shootings for 2023 with 32 dead and 30 injured in 9 mass shootings.

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    California continues to lead the nation in mass shootings for 2023 with 32 dead and 30 injured in 9 mass shootings.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

    Unarmed Tyre Nichols refused 71 commands and was beaten to death, under your logic that would have been acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Kevin McCarthy Breaks With Trump, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene: Ashli Babbitt Shooter ‘Did His Job!’  Investigations by capital police board and justice department have cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in shooting Babbitt.  He likely saved the lives of members of congress from attack by rioters.  But Trump, Tucker and Greene want to falsely depict Babbitt as a martyr or victim instead of a criminal.  Babbitt case isn't comparable to police unjustified killing of Nichols.   Exactly.   During a mob insurrection Ashli "MAGA-idiot" Babbit had broken a window and was attempting to climb into the building - while IGNORING demands by officers to stop or they would shoot.  She defied the multiple warnings and was shot climbing thru the window,  as a MAGA traitor. Intelligent people do understand this.

    Unarmed Tyre Nichols refused 71 commands and was beaten to death, under your logic that would have been acceptable.

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