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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 12:24 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    If you truly want to rate the "family values" candidate. I say judge their children as a barometer. In this regard Trump wins big. His kids are solid, respectable productive citizens. Chelsea makes her living working for an organized crime syndicate known as the Clinton Foundation.

    FYI  Trump Org is ripping off the people paying lowest wages and he pays no taxes.  Hillary is family. Trump is greed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    If you truly want to rate the "family values" candidate. I say judge their children as a barometer. In this regard Trump wins big. His kids are solid, respectable productive citizens. Chelsea makes her living working for an organized crime syndicate known as the Clinton Foundation.

    FYI  Trump Org is ripping off the people paying lowest wages and he pays no taxes.  Hillary is family. Trump is greed.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 1:35 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    If you truly want to rate the "family values" candidate. I say judge their children as a barometer. In this regard Trump wins big. His kids are solid, respectable productive citizens. Chelsea makes her living working for an organized crime syndicate known as the Clinton Foundation.

    Trump's sons look like the inspiration for American Psycho.   Too bad they aren't more like the Menendez brothers.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    If you truly want to rate the "family values" candidate. I say judge their children as a barometer. In this regard Trump wins big. His kids are solid, respectable productive citizens. Chelsea makes her living working for an organized crime syndicate known as the Clinton Foundation.

    Trump's sons look like the inspiration for American Psycho.   Too bad they aren't more like the Menendez brothers.......
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 4:38 PM ET #28

    I think anyone trying to elevate Trump and his moronic kids are wasting their breath...there is nothing to elevate. His daughter is pretty smart but the boys not at all.

    To me the issue of abortion falls into my view on politics and religion...which obviously some in this thread are not on the same page as I am.

    Nothing will tear apart a society more than mixing religion and politics, so to me the concept of a woman's right is greater than my view on abortion. I might not teach and believe all of what is accepted legally now, but to me you teach in the home and you follow the laws which exist. Now if the SC decides to change the laws then we might have a change in the rules of abortion, but that would be a MASSIVE mistake to me. Abortions have always existed and will exist with or without the laws that exist..so to me you try to support what we have and give the rights to women inside reasonable guidelines and teach what you feel at home, do not VOTE based on the views of abortion or religion, that is a big mistake.

    Separation of church and state is a very smart concept and people in society and this thread need to get an understanding of that and understand why it is important.


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    I think anyone trying to elevate Trump and his moronic kids are wasting their breath...there is nothing to elevate. His daughter is pretty smart but the boys not at all.

    To me the issue of abortion falls into my view on politics and religion...which obviously some in this thread are not on the same page as I am.

    Nothing will tear apart a society more than mixing religion and politics, so to me the concept of a woman's right is greater than my view on abortion. I might not teach and believe all of what is accepted legally now, but to me you teach in the home and you follow the laws which exist. Now if the SC decides to change the laws then we might have a change in the rules of abortion, but that would be a MASSIVE mistake to me. Abortions have always existed and will exist with or without the laws that exist..so to me you try to support what we have and give the rights to women inside reasonable guidelines and teach what you feel at home, do not VOTE based on the views of abortion or religion, that is a big mistake.

    Separation of church and state is a very smart concept and people in society and this thread need to get an understanding of that and understand why it is important.


     
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    Don't waste your breath, folks.  His brain can't think outside of the 5 x6 box he lives in.  

    If Killery wins, the erosion of our society's moral fiber will continue to spiral downward and common sense thinking will become obsolete among the majority.  

    A society that pushes morality out the door in favor of hollow appearances, is a society doomed to perish.  ( ala later day Roman Empire ) 





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    Don't waste your breath, folks.  His brain can't think outside of the 5 x6 box he lives in.  

    If Killery wins, the erosion of our society's moral fiber will continue to spiral downward and common sense thinking will become obsolete among the majority.  

    A society that pushes morality out the door in favor of hollow appearances, is a society doomed to perish.  ( ala later day Roman Empire ) 





     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 8:58 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I think anyone trying to elevate Trump and his moronic kids are wasting their breath...there is nothing to elevate. His daughter is pretty smart but the boys not at all.

    To me the issue of abortion falls into my view on politics and religion...which obviously some in this thread are not on the same page as I am.

    Nothing will tear apart a society more than mixing religion and politics, so to me the concept of a woman's right is greater than my view on abortion. I might not teach and believe all of what is accepted legally now, but to me you teach in the home and you follow the laws which exist. Now if the SC decides to change the laws then we might have a change in the rules of abortion, but that would be a MASSIVE mistake to me. Abortions have always existed and will exist with or without the laws that exist..so to me you try to support what we have and give the rights to women inside reasonable guidelines and teach what you feel at home, do not VOTE based on the views of abortion or religion, that is a big mistake.

    Separation of church and state is a very smart concept and people in society and this thread need to get an understanding of that and understand why it is important.


    Trump is in favor of abolishing  abortion at the Federal level.  He is saying it should be up to individual states to decide and allocate their own state money to fund it. 

    To suggest he opposes separation of religion and government ( which is the hallmark of sharia law )  is ridiculous when he is the only candidate in favor of upholding our constitution and his appointment to the SC will reflect that.  

    LATE TERM ABORTIONS have nothing to do with religious values!  It's MURDER, plain and simple. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I think anyone trying to elevate Trump and his moronic kids are wasting their breath...there is nothing to elevate. His daughter is pretty smart but the boys not at all.

    To me the issue of abortion falls into my view on politics and religion...which obviously some in this thread are not on the same page as I am.

    Nothing will tear apart a society more than mixing religion and politics, so to me the concept of a woman's right is greater than my view on abortion. I might not teach and believe all of what is accepted legally now, but to me you teach in the home and you follow the laws which exist. Now if the SC decides to change the laws then we might have a change in the rules of abortion, but that would be a MASSIVE mistake to me. Abortions have always existed and will exist with or without the laws that exist..so to me you try to support what we have and give the rights to women inside reasonable guidelines and teach what you feel at home, do not VOTE based on the views of abortion or religion, that is a big mistake.

    Separation of church and state is a very smart concept and people in society and this thread need to get an understanding of that and understand why it is important.


    Trump is in favor of abolishing  abortion at the Federal level.  He is saying it should be up to individual states to decide and allocate their own state money to fund it. 

    To suggest he opposes separation of religion and government ( which is the hallmark of sharia law )  is ridiculous when he is the only candidate in favor of upholding our constitution and his appointment to the SC will reflect that.  

    LATE TERM ABORTIONS have nothing to do with religious values!  It's MURDER, plain and simple. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 9:39 PM ET #31

    I think you are confusing what I said...I said in this thread. I dont think I mentioned Trump with regards to religion and government, I said I feel that separation is important and religion fighting will destroy a society faster and deeper than politics will.

    I dont think Trump has a position on anything, he does not give deep detail to any position. 

    I also think faux supporters of Trump are thinking he will stack the SC with conservative justices and their agenda will be forwarded with him in the office...silly conservative morons.

    Trump is as democrat as Hillary is...dont let his vote chasing middling fool you, the guy is a teflon joke as much as Hillary is.

    I also said that my view on abortion and others should be kept at home and taught at home, that the focus of societal politics should be on what gives the most freedoms inside the existing framework of the constitution and that which does the most benefit to the general society.
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    I think you are confusing what I said...I said in this thread. I dont think I mentioned Trump with regards to religion and government, I said I feel that separation is important and religion fighting will destroy a society faster and deeper than politics will.

    I dont think Trump has a position on anything, he does not give deep detail to any position. 

    I also think faux supporters of Trump are thinking he will stack the SC with conservative justices and their agenda will be forwarded with him in the office...silly conservative morons.

    Trump is as democrat as Hillary is...dont let his vote chasing middling fool you, the guy is a teflon joke as much as Hillary is.

    I also said that my view on abortion and others should be kept at home and taught at home, that the focus of societal politics should be on what gives the most freedoms inside the existing framework of the constitution and that which does the most benefit to the general society.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 9:42 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by vixen321:

    Trump is in favor of abolishing  abortion at the Federal level.  He is saying it should be up to individual states to decide and allocate their own state money to fund it. 

    To suggest he opposes separation of religion and government ( which is the hallmark of sharia law )  is ridiculous when he is the only candidate in favor of upholding our constitution and his appointment to the SC will reflect that.  

    LATE TERM ABORTIONS have nothing to do with religious values!  It's MURDER, plain and simple. 

    Riddle me this....

    If Trump is in favor of upholding the Constitution, and the Supreme Court has already determined that abortion is protected by the Constitution, then how can he leave the decisions to the State at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vixen321:

    Trump is in favor of abolishing  abortion at the Federal level.  He is saying it should be up to individual states to decide and allocate their own state money to fund it. 

    To suggest he opposes separation of religion and government ( which is the hallmark of sharia law )  is ridiculous when he is the only candidate in favor of upholding our constitution and his appointment to the SC will reflect that.  

    LATE TERM ABORTIONS have nothing to do with religious values!  It's MURDER, plain and simple. 

    Riddle me this....

    If Trump is in favor of upholding the Constitution, and the Supreme Court has already determined that abortion is protected by the Constitution, then how can he leave the decisions to the State at all?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vixen321:

    Trump is in favor of abolishing  abortion at the Federal level.  He is saying it should be up to individual states to decide and allocate their own state money to fund it. 

    To suggest he opposes separation of religion and government ( which is the hallmark of sharia law )  is ridiculous when he is the only candidate in favor of upholding our constitution and his appointment to the SC will reflect that.  

    LATE TERM ABORTIONS have nothing to do with religious values!  It's MURDER, plain and simple. 

    "Grab 'em by the pu$$y.....    unless there's a baby in it"  - Donald Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by vixen321:

    Trump is in favor of abolishing  abortion at the Federal level.  He is saying it should be up to individual states to decide and allocate their own state money to fund it. 

    To suggest he opposes separation of religion and government ( which is the hallmark of sharia law )  is ridiculous when he is the only candidate in favor of upholding our constitution and his appointment to the SC will reflect that.  

    LATE TERM ABORTIONS have nothing to do with religious values!  It's MURDER, plain and simple. 

    "Grab 'em by the pu$$y.....    unless there's a baby in it"  - Donald Trump
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2016 - 10:11 PM ET #34

    Abortions maybe protected by Constitution..but, since 2007 a number of states have stepped up efforts to regulate abortion. e.i. about a dozen states have enacted laws in recent years that require physicians to perform an ultrasound procedure prior to an abortion.

    In addition, a number of states have recently passed laws with very narrow exceptions, outlaw abortion beginning at 20 weeks into a pregnancy.

    So,Trump is partially correct by leaving abortions to the states..those states can make the decisions on regulation  .. I can see where the SC will eventually take up the issues raised by this new restriction on the availability of abortions in the second trimester of pregnancy..
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    Abortions maybe protected by Constitution..but, since 2007 a number of states have stepped up efforts to regulate abortion. e.i. about a dozen states have enacted laws in recent years that require physicians to perform an ultrasound procedure prior to an abortion.

    In addition, a number of states have recently passed laws with very narrow exceptions, outlaw abortion beginning at 20 weeks into a pregnancy.

    So,Trump is partially correct by leaving abortions to the states..those states can make the decisions on regulation  .. I can see where the SC will eventually take up the issues raised by this new restriction on the availability of abortions in the second trimester of pregnancy..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    FYI.. The subject is Donald Trump's family values, somehow you all have turned Hillary into a villain. As usual, the right wing continues to beat her up unmercifully.

    She loves children,. but you'd rather be lead by Donald, a greedy selfish, dirty old man, who is conning the H out of you. 

    As a real billionaire, Bloomberg said... " I'm from NY and I know a con when I see one  ! "
     
    Hey, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you guys !



    Did you buy the bridge your hero Bloomberg was selling you when he vowed not to run for more than two terms ? Talk about con men !! Did you fall for that con ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

    FYI.. The subject is Donald Trump's family values, somehow you all have turned Hillary into a villain. As usual, the right wing continues to beat her up unmercifully.

    She loves children,. but you'd rather be lead by Donald, a greedy selfish, dirty old man, who is conning the H out of you. 

    As a real billionaire, Bloomberg said... " I'm from NY and I know a con when I see one  ! "
     
    Hey, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you guys !



    Did you buy the bridge your hero Bloomberg was selling you when he vowed not to run for more than two terms ? Talk about con men !! Did you fall for that con ?
     
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    Anyone who votes in this election thinking that morality is the main issue is a fool.

    Too much at stake.

    Michael Savage says :    Border..language...culture

    All three at risk this election...We could lose it all if the crooked one wins.
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    Anyone who votes in this election thinking that morality is the main issue is a fool.

    Too much at stake.

    Michael Savage says :    Border..language...culture

    All three at risk this election...We could lose it all if the crooked one wins.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Anyone who votes in this election thinking that morality is the main issue is a fool.

    Too much at stake.

    Michael Savage says :    Border..language...culture

    All three at risk this election...We could lose it all if the crooked one wins.

    They said the same thing about the Italians, Germans, Japanese ,etc. 

    Trump is the crooked one, he is a snake oil salesman. 

    Do you remember Trump's famous poem ? The Snake ?

    " You knew who I was before you took me in ? "

    Well, we know who he is,... THE SNAKE !
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    Anyone who votes in this election thinking that morality is the main issue is a fool.

    Too much at stake.

    Michael Savage says :    Border..language...culture

    All three at risk this election...We could lose it all if the crooked one wins.

    They said the same thing about the Italians, Germans, Japanese ,etc. 

    Trump is the crooked one, he is a snake oil salesman. 

    Do you remember Trump's famous poem ? The Snake ?

    " You knew who I was before you took me in ? "

    Well, we know who he is,... THE SNAKE !
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2016 - 12:01 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I dont see family values on either side, and I dont vote for someone based solely on my view of family values.

    My family values are taught in my home, based on my beliefs and opinions, I do not look to politicians on ANY level to solidify my views on family values.

    The reason I do not is the same reason why politics will always be polluted...private interests and money control politics, so how can any values outside of selfish greed determine anything that comes out of our political system?

    Outside some vanilla basic concepts like freedom of religion I do not think politics and religion belong together and it serves no purpose even mixing the two.

    I agree with Wallstreet on this one regarding family values.  Same goes with mixing religion and politics.  Separation of Church and State.  Believe it's in the constitution somewhere.  While it doesn't go into too much detail ... I think much of it is implied ... in terms of how it's applied but why the f*ck do politicians always run their damn mouths about their beliefs, God ... etc, etc, etc ... how they go to church and it makes them a better person.  I say who gives a f*ck.  Your religion is your business and my religion is non of yours.
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    I dont see family values on either side, and I dont vote for someone based solely on my view of family values.

    My family values are taught in my home, based on my beliefs and opinions, I do not look to politicians on ANY level to solidify my views on family values.

    The reason I do not is the same reason why politics will always be polluted...private interests and money control politics, so how can any values outside of selfish greed determine anything that comes out of our political system?

    Outside some vanilla basic concepts like freedom of religion I do not think politics and religion belong together and it serves no purpose even mixing the two.

    I agree with Wallstreet on this one regarding family values.  Same goes with mixing religion and politics.  Separation of Church and State.  Believe it's in the constitution somewhere.  While it doesn't go into too much detail ... I think much of it is implied ... in terms of how it's applied but why the f*ck do politicians always run their damn mouths about their beliefs, God ... etc, etc, etc ... how they go to church and it makes them a better person.  I say who gives a f*ck.  Your religion is your business and my religion is non of yours.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2016 - 12:04 PM ET #39

    Just being married to someone with the integrity of Bill Clinton is enough for my vote.
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    Just being married to someone with the integrity of Bill Clinton is enough for my vote.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2016 - 3:14 PM ET #40

    Bill Clinton is sterile so we know Chelsea isn't his.
    Knowing HRC,there may be question if Chelsea is hers.
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    Knowing HRC,there may be question if Chelsea is hers.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2016 - 11:00 PM ET #41

    hillary is lying piece of chit c   unt


    she should be locked up in jail for the chit she did

    family values


    i guess she should ask monica to join the family


    or pay some other international arms dealer to fund her crooked a  ss fdn. 

    she is a disgrace of a person


    vote gary johnson

    only real respectable guy out there 
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    hillary is lying piece of chit c   unt


    she should be locked up in jail for the chit she did

    family values


    i guess she should ask monica to join the family


    or pay some other international arms dealer to fund her crooked a  ss fdn. 

    she is a disgrace of a person


    vote gary johnson

    only real respectable guy out there 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2016 - 7:44 AM ET #42

    Geez, in the post above me, I think the guy is a little perturbed !

    But, I guess that's expected of the Trump radical extremists.
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    Geez, in the post above me, I think the guy is a little perturbed !

    But, I guess that's expected of the Trump radical extremists.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2016 - 2:36 PM ET #43

    Values and a life-long politician in the same sentence? Really?
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2016 - 5:06 PM ET #44

    She don't even value her own family, very evil wicked lady!
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2016 - 8:14 PM ET #45

    She don't ?   What kind of English is that ?..

    I guess it's true, Trump is losing with the non-college educated.
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    She don't ?   What kind of English is that ?..

    I guess it's true, Trump is losing with the non-college educated.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2016 - 2:16 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by don juan:


    So someone who is lead by the head below his belt, married three times and runs around on his wife is okay with you to lead our country ?   Who lies and cons the people in every speech every day ?  

    There must be something wrong with your values. God help us. 


    Minus the three marriages you just described Bill Clinton who I believe you are a big fan of. Hypocrisy much?

    For the record I am not voting for Donald.
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    So someone who is lead by the head below his belt, married three times and runs around on his wife is okay with you to lead our country ?   Who lies and cons the people in every speech every day ?  

    There must be something wrong with your values. God help us. 


    Minus the three marriages you just described Bill Clinton who I believe you are a big fan of. Hypocrisy much?

    For the record I am not voting for Donald.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2016 - 5:59 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Bill Clinton is sterile so we know Chelsea isn't his.
    Knowing HRC,there may be question if Chelsea is hers.
    Interesting who is the father? then last II heard lesbians aren't able to pregnant others
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    Bill Clinton is sterile so we know Chelsea isn't his.
    Knowing HRC,there may be question if Chelsea is hers.
    Interesting who is the father? then last II heard lesbians aren't able to pregnant others
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2016 - 6:01 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    She don't even value her own family, very evil wicked lady!
    As a non partisan independent have to say great post Joe
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    She don't even value her own family, very evil wicked lady!
    As a non partisan independent have to say great post Joe
     
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    DL36 on holidays hasn't posted in while
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    Insane people trying to pretend they're not insane  
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