Everyone is talking about how the Steeler defense held down the Eagle offense....
did anybody watch the game???
did anybody see that the Eagles best player was injured and played only about 1 quarter of the game????
That offense works around westbrook, Had he been in the Eagles would have put up more on this defense..........
with that being said, if the Steelers O-line couldn't hold the Eagles back, what makes you think the Baltimore defense isn't going to blitz almost every down....
Big Ben looked flat last week and the offense is not in sync....
Giving 5 is way to much... this is going to be a smashmouth game...
also, every monday night goes in the over........
Ravens in the Over
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Everyone is talking about how the Steeler defense held down the Eagle offense....
did anybody watch the game???
did anybody see that the Eagles best player was injured and played only about 1 quarter of the game????
That offense works around westbrook, Had he been in the Eagles would have put up more on this defense..........
with that being said, if the Steelers O-line couldn't hold the Eagles back, what makes you think the Baltimore defense isn't going to blitz almost every down....
Big Ben looked flat last week and the offense is not in sync....
Giving 5 is way to much... this is going to be a smashmouth game...
Everyone is talking about how the Steeler defense held down the Eagle offense....
did anybody watch the game???
did anybody see that the Eagles best player was injured and played only about 1 quarter of the game????
That offense works around westbrook, Had he been in the Eagles would have put up more on this defense..........
with that being said, if the Steelers O-line couldn't hold the Eagles back, what makes you think the Baltimore defense isn't going to blitz almost every down....
Big Ben looked flat last week and the offense is not in sync....
Giving 5 is way to much... this is going to be a smashmouth game...
also, every monday night goes in the over........
Ravens in the Over
The EAGLES looked pretty good last nite WITHOUT Westbrook....so your point holds no water......
PITT-5/O 34
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Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:
Everyone is talking about how the Steeler defense held down the Eagle offense....
did anybody watch the game???
did anybody see that the Eagles best player was injured and played only about 1 quarter of the game????
That offense works around westbrook, Had he been in the Eagles would have put up more on this defense..........
with that being said, if the Steelers O-line couldn't hold the Eagles back, what makes you think the Baltimore defense isn't going to blitz almost every down....
Big Ben looked flat last week and the offense is not in sync....
Giving 5 is way to much... this is going to be a smashmouth game...
also, every monday night goes in the over........
Ravens in the Over
The EAGLES looked pretty good last nite WITHOUT Westbrook....so your point holds no water......
The EAGLES looked pretty good last nite WITHOUT Westbrook....so your point holds no water......
PITT-5/O 34
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my point holds plenty of water considering he was the best running back in the league last year.... had the most yards from scrimage... and I believe has the most tds this season, (i may be wrong on that one but its close)..... so, Had westbrook been in, the screen pass would have been a HUGE problem for the Steelers..... then the score would have been higher, then you would not be on the Steeler D.......
so remember, while looking at past matchups, consider the variables, because thats a big difference....
you can hold my water in your empty cup while your begging for change after the ravens cover...
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[Quote: Originally Posted by silverbull271]
The EAGLES looked pretty good last nite WITHOUT Westbrook....so your point holds no water......
PITT-5/O 34
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my point holds plenty of water considering he was the best running back in the league last year.... had the most yards from scrimage... and I believe has the most tds this season, (i may be wrong on that one but its close)..... so, Had westbrook been in, the screen pass would have been a HUGE problem for the Steelers..... then the score would have been higher, then you would not be on the Steeler D.......
so remember, while looking at past matchups, consider the variables, because thats a big difference....
you can hold my water in your empty cup while your begging for change after the ravens cover...
Everyone is talking about how the Steeler defense held down the Eagle offense....
did anybody watch the game???
did anybody see that the Eagles best player was injured and played only about 1 quarter of the game????
That offense works around westbrook, Had he been in the Eagles would have put up more on this defense..........
with that being said, if the Steelers O-line couldn't hold the Eagles back, what makes you think the Baltimore defense isn't going to blitz almost every down....
Big Ben looked flat last week and the offense is not in sync....
Giving 5 is way to much... this is going to be a smashmouth game...
also, every monday night goes in the over........
Ravens in the Over
And how do you expect the Ravens to score? Flacco hasn't thrown a TD against this year and has played the Bengals and the Browns. Pittsburgh still has a very good Rush DEF and will force the Ravens to go to the air. Unless you tell me how the Ravens score...Im still on PITTSBURGH!
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Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:
Everyone is talking about how the Steeler defense held down the Eagle offense....
did anybody watch the game???
did anybody see that the Eagles best player was injured and played only about 1 quarter of the game????
That offense works around westbrook, Had he been in the Eagles would have put up more on this defense..........
with that being said, if the Steelers O-line couldn't hold the Eagles back, what makes you think the Baltimore defense isn't going to blitz almost every down....
Big Ben looked flat last week and the offense is not in sync....
Giving 5 is way to much... this is going to be a smashmouth game...
also, every monday night goes in the over........
Ravens in the Over
And how do you expect the Ravens to score? Flacco hasn't thrown a TD against this year and has played the Bengals and the Browns. Pittsburgh still has a very good Rush DEF and will force the Ravens to go to the air. Unless you tell me how the Ravens score...Im still on PITTSBURGH!
And how do you expect the Ravens to score? Flacco hasn't thrown a TD against this year and has played the Bengals and the Browns. Pittsburgh still has a very good Rush DEF and will force the Ravens to go to the air. Unless you tell me how the Ravens score...Im still on PITTSBURGH!
I'm not trying to tell you how to bet.... I'm just giving my analysis to help you consider your bet..... and I'm not saying that Pitt is Def going to lose the game.... I'm just saying 5 is alot to lay with your starting running back on the bench.... me personally Im taking the 5....
also, the Ravens aren't a team that relys on great qb play.... they rely on field position, and their defense coming up with big plays...
So to lay 5 against a great defense.... with your starting running back not playing, after watching Big Ben play terrible last week.... against an O-line that gave up how many sacks?? is crazy...
I think the only advantage they have is that they are Home....
Ravens will keep it close
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
And how do you expect the Ravens to score? Flacco hasn't thrown a TD against this year and has played the Bengals and the Browns. Pittsburgh still has a very good Rush DEF and will force the Ravens to go to the air. Unless you tell me how the Ravens score...Im still on PITTSBURGH!
I'm not trying to tell you how to bet.... I'm just giving my analysis to help you consider your bet..... and I'm not saying that Pitt is Def going to lose the game.... I'm just saying 5 is alot to lay with your starting running back on the bench.... me personally Im taking the 5....
also, the Ravens aren't a team that relys on great qb play.... they rely on field position, and their defense coming up with big plays...
So to lay 5 against a great defense.... with your starting running back not playing, after watching Big Ben play terrible last week.... against an O-line that gave up how many sacks?? is crazy...
I think the only advantage they have is that they are Home....
The Steelers are racked with injuries that will have a major impact offensively and defensively. Rookie Rashard Mendenhall is averaging 50 percent more lost fumbles than rushing touchdowns against the top-rated Ravens defense. The Ravens can pull of the big upset if they force at least two turnovers. Baltimore has a 48 percent chance of getting 3 or more sacks and 2 or more turnovers and if they do this they will win. Of course, if the Ravens offense stagnates against the Steelers and is held to under 250 yards the Steelers become the solid play. There is a 42 percent chance the Steelers limit the Ravens to under 250 total yards. If Big Ben does not play the Steelers winning percentage drops from 65 percent to just 56 percent.
Steelers are Banged up
Ravens +the Points
Forget the game simulators, your stats are meaningless!! And please don't plagerize from ESPN.
The statement also says: "The ESPN Custom Game Simulator indicates the Steelers do need Ben Roethlisberger to play. If he does not play the Steelers winning percentage drops from 65 percent to just 56 percent."
Please don't act like that's your stats.
I'm still on PITTSBURGH until someone says something meaningful.
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Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:
The Steelers are racked with injuries that will have a major impact offensively and defensively. Rookie Rashard Mendenhall is averaging 50 percent more lost fumbles than rushing touchdowns against the top-rated Ravens defense. The Ravens can pull of the big upset if they force at least two turnovers. Baltimore has a 48 percent chance of getting 3 or more sacks and 2 or more turnovers and if they do this they will win. Of course, if the Ravens offense stagnates against the Steelers and is held to under 250 yards the Steelers become the solid play. There is a 42 percent chance the Steelers limit the Ravens to under 250 total yards. If Big Ben does not play the Steelers winning percentage drops from 65 percent to just 56 percent.
Steelers are Banged up
Ravens +the Points
Forget the game simulators, your stats are meaningless!! And please don't plagerize from ESPN.
The statement also says: "The ESPN Custom Game Simulator indicates the Steelers do need Ben Roethlisberger to play. If he does not play the Steelers winning percentage drops from 65 percent to just 56 percent."
Please don't act like that's your stats.
I'm still on PITTSBURGH until someone says something meaningful.
Yes, it will be a defensive battle... no doubt. BUT, good defense also provides scoring opportunities with sacks, fumbles, interceptions all leading to quick points. Let's not forget special teams too. I still like the over with some defensive scoring. 33.5 is a very low number. Think Flacco can tackle Polumalu on an interception return? Think Ed Reed will smoke Big Ben on a return? These teams are very physical which will lead to turnovers which will lead to points.
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Yes, it will be a defensive battle... no doubt. BUT, good defense also provides scoring opportunities with sacks, fumbles, interceptions all leading to quick points. Let's not forget special teams too. I still like the over with some defensive scoring. 33.5 is a very low number. Think Flacco can tackle Polumalu on an interception return? Think Ed Reed will smoke Big Ben on a return? These teams are very physical which will lead to turnovers which will lead to points.
Yes, it will be a defensive battle... no doubt. BUT, good defense also provides scoring opportunities with sacks, fumbles, interceptions all leading to quick points. Let's not forget special teams too. I still like the over with some defensive scoring. 33.5 is a very low number. Think Flacco can tackle Polumalu on an interception return? Think Ed Reed will smoke Big Ben on a return? These teams are very physical which will lead to turnovers which will lead to points.
This is exactly how I see this game as well..... .... when was the last monday night game that didn't go in the OVER?????
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Quote Originally Posted by Henry-Lilly:
Yes, it will be a defensive battle... no doubt. BUT, good defense also provides scoring opportunities with sacks, fumbles, interceptions all leading to quick points. Let's not forget special teams too. I still like the over with some defensive scoring. 33.5 is a very low number. Think Flacco can tackle Polumalu on an interception return? Think Ed Reed will smoke Big Ben on a return? These teams are very physical which will lead to turnovers which will lead to points.
This is exactly how I see this game as well..... .... when was the last monday night game that didn't go in the OVER?????
MONDAY NIGHT!!!!! No Willie Parker means Steelers will have to put the ball in the air . Will be a field day for Ravens D. The score is going to surprise everyone with this one easily going over the total. Ravens win this one 28-24. Going to stay away from picking sides just in case but I'm betting the house on the over!
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MONDAY NIGHT!!!!! No Willie Parker means Steelers will have to put the ball in the air . Will be a field day for Ravens D. The score is going to surprise everyone with this one easily going over the total. Ravens win this one 28-24. Going to stay away from picking sides just in case but I'm betting the house on the over!
The EAGLES looked pretty good last nite WITHOUT Westbrook....so your point holds no water......
If the Eagles has Westbrook Last night they would have punched it in TWICE when they were on the 1 Yard line and PHI would have covered.
I am taking Ravens +5/O 34...I dont think Steelers cover tonight, might win, but dont cover. 5 is a lot, its basically the Feild goal. Plus this is a new Ravens team, new play calling, and New QB...Not "Steve (5 T/O's) Mcnair, I think Joe Flacco is a winner and gets the job done tonight...
Pit might win, but not more then 5
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[Quote: Originally Posted by silverbull271]
The EAGLES looked pretty good last nite WITHOUT Westbrook....so your point holds no water......
If the Eagles has Westbrook Last night they would have punched it in TWICE when they were on the 1 Yard line and PHI would have covered.
I am taking Ravens +5/O 34...I dont think Steelers cover tonight, might win, but dont cover. 5 is a lot, its basically the Feild goal. Plus this is a new Ravens team, new play calling, and New QB...Not "Steve (5 T/O's) Mcnair, I think Joe Flacco is a winner and gets the job done tonight...
BTW. I like Ben Rothlisberger, but I dont like him when he is injured. Baltimore is going to put a lot of pressure on him tonight. If Baltimore gets ahead by one TD, PIT is going to be Airing it out, and expect at least 2 int's and one of them a Pick/Six
This is MNF, Prime Time...Cant really look at stats and trends, its a whole new Ball Game. Baltimore is going to be Pumped up for this one.
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BTW. I like Ben Rothlisberger, but I dont like him when he is injured. Baltimore is going to put a lot of pressure on him tonight. If Baltimore gets ahead by one TD, PIT is going to be Airing it out, and expect at least 2 int's and one of them a Pick/Six
This is MNF, Prime Time...Cant really look at stats and trends, its a whole new Ball Game. Baltimore is going to be Pumped up for this one.
Pit will make adjustments for this game. The steelers will go back to the basics and run the ball. The oline wont have to pass block when they are pounding the ball. Pit will win and cover 27-10. Ravens played two of the worst teams so far at home.
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Pit will make adjustments for this game. The steelers will go back to the basics and run the ball. The oline wont have to pass block when they are pounding the ball. Pit will win and cover 27-10. Ravens played two of the worst teams so far at home.
A stat we might consider is Balitmore's ability to stop the run; having kept their opposition's runner off of the century mark for 22 consecutive games now.
Having said that, I doubt or at least I hope . . . that the Steelers game-plan leading up to this match, was to ask Willie P to give 'em 35 carries.
Monday Night Lights make this Steelers team shine. The Ravens are a tough team to beat, but they are certainly beatable. Enjoy the show.
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A stat we might consider is Balitmore's ability to stop the run; having kept their opposition's runner off of the century mark for 22 consecutive games now.
Having said that, I doubt or at least I hope . . . that the Steelers game-plan leading up to this match, was to ask Willie P to give 'em 35 carries.
Monday Night Lights make this Steelers team shine. The Ravens are a tough team to beat, but they are certainly beatable. Enjoy the show.
I like the steelers at home. Always played the steelers at home unless the spread is huge. I have noticed they have struggled on the road this year, but they played a two pretty tough teams, and did score 38 at thier last home game. Ravens have donw pretty well, but they havent played Pitts D at home yet. Plus, this is Ravens first away game. Some things to think about:
Home team is 4-1 ATS in their last 5 meetings.
Steelers are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 games after accumulating less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
Over is 6-1 in the last 7 meetings in Pittsburgh.
Over is 41-15 in Steelers last 58 home games.
Anyways, I think Flacco is going to be nervous, rushed, and innaccurate with Pitts D blitzing him all the time tonight and keep in mind he is still pretty young and unexperienced in this league, so playing the Steelers is not a good thing for him. Flacco's confidence has got to be down. I gotta take PIT -5. And just from recent MNF and they way Pitt plays at home, I gotta take the over.
Good Luck to all, hope this might have helped some of you!
MyBoldPrediction:
BAL 17
PIT 27
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I like the steelers at home. Always played the steelers at home unless the spread is huge. I have noticed they have struggled on the road this year, but they played a two pretty tough teams, and did score 38 at thier last home game. Ravens have donw pretty well, but they havent played Pitts D at home yet. Plus, this is Ravens first away game. Some things to think about:
Home team is 4-1 ATS in their last 5 meetings.
Steelers are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 games after accumulating less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
Over is 6-1 in the last 7 meetings in Pittsburgh.
Over is 41-15 in Steelers last 58 home games.
Anyways, I think Flacco is going to be nervous, rushed, and innaccurate with Pitts D blitzing him all the time tonight and keep in mind he is still pretty young and unexperienced in this league, so playing the Steelers is not a good thing for him. Flacco's confidence has got to be down. I gotta take PIT -5. And just from recent MNF and they way Pitt plays at home, I gotta take the over.
Good Luck to all, hope this might have helped some of you!
In 2006, the Ravens went 13-3 and they had a defense that tortured opposing offenses. In 2007, that defense was no where to be found and the Ravens won just three games. Which team will show up in 2008? So far, it looks like the 2006 version as they are 2-0 and holding opponents to just 10 points per game. But, those wins came against two bad teams in the Bengals and the Browns who are collectively averaging abour 12 points per game. The big question for Baltimore will be Joe Flacco. He has looked good so far, leading his team to a 2-0 start. But how will he fare against a very good Pittsburgh offense? If he keeps the mistakes to a minimum, the Ravens can certainly keep this game close. But, if he remembers he's a rookie, he could be in for a very long night. Pittsburgh started off very well at 2-0, winning by a combined margin of 48-23. But last week the Eagles kept them to just 6 points, handing the Steelers their first loss. Big Ben came into the game roughed up and left even worse after suffering eight sacks. He comes into this game with a bad shoulder and hand. Out for Pittsburgh is Willie Parker. The question for Pittsburgh is what kind of offense can they generate with the injuries, facing this Ravens defense. Baltimore is 11-2 ATS in their last 13 after holding an opposing quarterback to under 100 yards. But, Puttsburgh is is 36-16 ATS in their last 52 as a home favorite of 3.5 to 7 points. Over the past three seasons, the OVER has hit 11 of 14 times in Pittsburgh home games vs. conference opponents. The Steelers are also 13-3 OVER after scoring 14 points or less in back-to-back games. But, Baltimore is 44-25 UNDER as a road underdog over the past fifteen years. A computer match-up for this game has the Steelers winning 21-8. What will really happen tonight?
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In 2006, the Ravens went 13-3 and they had a defense that tortured opposing offenses. In 2007, that defense was no where to be found and the Ravens won just three games. Which team will show up in 2008? So far, it looks like the 2006 version as they are 2-0 and holding opponents to just 10 points per game. But, those wins came against two bad teams in the Bengals and the Browns who are collectively averaging abour 12 points per game. The big question for Baltimore will be Joe Flacco. He has looked good so far, leading his team to a 2-0 start. But how will he fare against a very good Pittsburgh offense? If he keeps the mistakes to a minimum, the Ravens can certainly keep this game close. But, if he remembers he's a rookie, he could be in for a very long night. Pittsburgh started off very well at 2-0, winning by a combined margin of 48-23. But last week the Eagles kept them to just 6 points, handing the Steelers their first loss. Big Ben came into the game roughed up and left even worse after suffering eight sacks. He comes into this game with a bad shoulder and hand. Out for Pittsburgh is Willie Parker. The question for Pittsburgh is what kind of offense can they generate with the injuries, facing this Ravens defense. Baltimore is 11-2 ATS in their last 13 after holding an opposing quarterback to under 100 yards. But, Puttsburgh is is 36-16 ATS in their last 52 as a home favorite of 3.5 to 7 points. Over the past three seasons, the OVER has hit 11 of 14 times in Pittsburgh home games vs. conference opponents. The Steelers are also 13-3 OVER after scoring 14 points or less in back-to-back games. But, Baltimore is 44-25 UNDER as a road underdog over the past fifteen years. A computer match-up for this game has the Steelers winning 21-8. What will really happen tonight?
Pittsburgh had owned its series with Baltimore in the late '90s and early part of this decade, winning 11 of 14 meetings including a 2002 divisional playoff victory. But the Ravens have won four of the last five meetings, including 27-0 on Nov. 26, 2006, when they sacked Roethlisberger nine times
Ravens + the Points
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Pittsburgh had owned its series with Baltimore in the late '90s and early part of this decade, winning 11 of 14 meetings including a 2002 divisional playoff victory. But the Ravens have won four of the last five meetings, including 27-0 on Nov. 26, 2006, when they sacked Roethlisberger nine times
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.... when was the last monday night game that didn't go in the OVER?????
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