New England at Indianapolis (11/04/2007)
Then why did they almost lose to the Titans and Texans? Why didn't they control the clock then.
whoa there! the Colts were never in danger of losing either of those games... i watched both... that Titans final score was one of the most misleading scores you will ever find... the Colts were sleep-walking through that game and still were never in danger of losing... there is more to it than the final score... they failed to cover, but losing was never a possibility...
Then why did they almost lose to the Titans and Texans? Why didn't they control the clock then.
whoa there! the Colts were never in danger of losing either of those games... i watched both... that Titans final score was one of the most misleading scores you will ever find... the Colts were sleep-walking through that game and still were never in danger of losing... there is more to it than the final score... they failed to cover, but losing was never a possibility...
The Colts Rookie Left Tackle is going to need all the help he can get, because he is going to be overmatched BIG TIME in this one. Vrabel & Co. will eat this kid alive if the Colts leave him on an island.
what rookie have you been watching? Ugoh has been doing great on the left side... it has been when he's out they they've had problems... Ugoh has been getting recognition by the NFL live crew as a rookie of the year candidate...
where do you get your information? if you want to be able to really exploit that left side you need to hope Ugoh can't go... his status could be key to the outcome of this game...
The Colts Rookie Left Tackle is going to need all the help he can get, because he is going to be overmatched BIG TIME in this one. Vrabel & Co. will eat this kid alive if the Colts leave him on an island.
what rookie have you been watching? Ugoh has been doing great on the left side... it has been when he's out they they've had problems... Ugoh has been getting recognition by the NFL live crew as a rookie of the year candidate...
where do you get your information? if you want to be able to really exploit that left side you need to hope Ugoh can't go... his status could be key to the outcome of this game...
whoa there! the Colts were never in danger of losing either of those games... i watched both... that Titans final score was one of the most misleading scores you will ever find... the Colts were sleep-walking through that game and still were never in danger of losing... there is more to it than the final score... they failed to cover, but losing was never a possibility...
I watched the game too. Which allows me to know you are talking out of your ass. Titans were within one minute on the Colts 47. Bell fumbled the ball on the Colts 36, which would have been a first down. If not for the fumble the Titans would have had a couple more downs and atleast hit the FG for the win.
You might want to rthink before you speak. They got lucky whenever the Titans turned the ball over.
How are you possibly cruising through a game when the end result is a win by 2?
whoa there! the Colts were never in danger of losing either of those games... i watched both... that Titans final score was one of the most misleading scores you will ever find... the Colts were sleep-walking through that game and still were never in danger of losing... there is more to it than the final score... they failed to cover, but losing was never a possibility...
I watched the game too. Which allows me to know you are talking out of your ass. Titans were within one minute on the Colts 47. Bell fumbled the ball on the Colts 36, which would have been a first down. If not for the fumble the Titans would have had a couple more downs and atleast hit the FG for the win.
You might want to rthink before you speak. They got lucky whenever the Titans turned the ball over.
How are you possibly cruising through a game when the end result is a win by 2?
Ok, all that been said, im not sayn Colts dont have a chance
im jus sayn if u were to bet this game Pats make the most sence, i have them @ -3, im one of those buy pts type of guy, but Pat should win by 7-10 in this game, and i wouldnt be surprise if they really try to run up the score in this game vs the colts, Pats are burnt out like that this year
Ok, all that been said, im not sayn Colts dont have a chance
im jus sayn if u were to bet this game Pats make the most sence, i have them @ -3, im one of those buy pts type of guy, but Pat should win by 7-10 in this game, and i wouldnt be surprise if they really try to run up the score in this game vs the colts, Pats are burnt out like that this year
One piece not discussed yet, perhaps under the radar is Adalius Thomas hurt his ankle a few weeks ago. He's been playing on it, and is technically listed a ?-able, but will play. However he has not made any of the impact plays he made in the first few weeks. And like the WRs, he was acquired specifically to help shore up the middle of the field. We'll see if he has gained a step on Sunday.
NE safety Eugene Wilson did not practice, and since he DNP'd last week I would not expect him to play.
One piece not discussed yet, perhaps under the radar is Adalius Thomas hurt his ankle a few weeks ago. He's been playing on it, and is technically listed a ?-able, but will play. However he has not made any of the impact plays he made in the first few weeks. And like the WRs, he was acquired specifically to help shore up the middle of the field. We'll see if he has gained a step on Sunday.
NE safety Eugene Wilson did not practice, and since he DNP'd last week I would not expect him to play.
No offense but Barkley is one of the stupidest athletes to ever play the game. Most of the guys who have covered games with him di not like him. They are not running anything up. The offense is paid to score TD's. Fans come to see an offensive game. Not a D filled 10-7 game. The Redskins D is paid to stop the O. They didn't. All blame should be put on Redskins D for not doing their job.
No offense but Barkley is one of the stupidest athletes to ever play the game. Most of the guys who have covered games with him di not like him. They are not running anything up. The offense is paid to score TD's. Fans come to see an offensive game. Not a D filled 10-7 game. The Redskins D is paid to stop the O. They didn't. All blame should be put on Redskins D for not doing their job.
I am beyond tired of this week's story angle obsessing over the Patiots running up the score on opponents. Yes it happened in a few instances, but there is MUCHO overreaction to what really comes down to a handful of plays... and basically, one game.
It's to the point now where people are incorporating this into their handicapping of the game. Potential big mistake.
I wish I could easily review all the plays that were run by the Pats in the 4th Qtr all year to demonstrate how just how often - or how little - this happened. I do recall specifically them running the ball repeatedly late in the game more than once. The thing is, they were not just falling on the ball -- they still had success running it. Which tells you something about their offensive line, and in some cases about the defenses they played.
Yes they went for it on 4th down, yes they threw some passes while ahead. Yes they are fueling the brewing jealousy into downright hatred throughout the league.
But let's get real for a second. Let's look at the Pats results after 3 quarters, and see what a difference a quarter made. Below I've listed the score after 3Q, then final for each game, and the difference.
NY Jets 28-14 38-14 +10
SD 31-7 38-14 EVEN
Buff 31-7 38-7 +7
Cinci 24-10 34-13 +7
Clev 20-3 34-17 EVEN
Dallas 31-24 48-27 +14
Miami 42-7 49-28 -14
Wash 38-0 52-7 +7
Grand total point 4th Quarter point differential in all 8 games: +31
Average point differential over 8 games: less than 4 points.
Let's look a little closer:
NY Jets -- you expect high-fives and handshakes after Mangini ratted Bill out to Goodell?
SD - even score Q4
Buffalo - +7
Cinci - +7
Clev - even
Dallas - they TRAILED in the 3rd qtr. With Romo and TO, you want them to fall on it?
Miami - -14, and after backup QB Cassell shit the bed BB had to reinstate Brady for a series.
Wash - the only real example of running it up. And one TD was with the backup QB Cassell, who had to prove his worth after stinking it up the week before.
This is basically the story du jour (or whatever is French for "of the week.") It really comes down to the Redskins game, when they went for it on 4th down a few times rather than fall on it or kick a long FG. But all the talk now is how the Patriots are relentless mercenaries, running it up to scare off all future opponents. It's simply overblown.
I am not saying they'll never do it again. And you can bet there is a renewed focus on playing for 60 minutes after blowing an 18-pt lead to Indy last year. But anyone who is counting the Pats to constantly feed the scoring meter, guaranteeing an over week after week, may be in for a letdown at some point.
I submit that the high scores are more a reflection of how powerful the team is, and that's not just throwing the ball. They can run it too. They average 135 yds/game and 4.2 yds/rush -- with two starting RBs injured during the year. (Maroney is back now.)
Bottom line -- you show me a team who complains about running up the score, and I'll show you a losing team. If they truly wanted to run it up, you would see far higher scores, 50+ per game instead of 40 ppg.
I am beyond tired of this week's story angle obsessing over the Patiots running up the score on opponents. Yes it happened in a few instances, but there is MUCHO overreaction to what really comes down to a handful of plays... and basically, one game.
It's to the point now where people are incorporating this into their handicapping of the game. Potential big mistake.
I wish I could easily review all the plays that were run by the Pats in the 4th Qtr all year to demonstrate how just how often - or how little - this happened. I do recall specifically them running the ball repeatedly late in the game more than once. The thing is, they were not just falling on the ball -- they still had success running it. Which tells you something about their offensive line, and in some cases about the defenses they played.
Yes they went for it on 4th down, yes they threw some passes while ahead. Yes they are fueling the brewing jealousy into downright hatred throughout the league.
But let's get real for a second. Let's look at the Pats results after 3 quarters, and see what a difference a quarter made. Below I've listed the score after 3Q, then final for each game, and the difference.
NY Jets 28-14 38-14 +10
SD 31-7 38-14 EVEN
Buff 31-7 38-7 +7
Cinci 24-10 34-13 +7
Clev 20-3 34-17 EVEN
Dallas 31-24 48-27 +14
Miami 42-7 49-28 -14
Wash 38-0 52-7 +7
Grand total point 4th Quarter point differential in all 8 games: +31
Average point differential over 8 games: less than 4 points.
Let's look a little closer:
NY Jets -- you expect high-fives and handshakes after Mangini ratted Bill out to Goodell?
SD - even score Q4
Buffalo - +7
Cinci - +7
Clev - even
Dallas - they TRAILED in the 3rd qtr. With Romo and TO, you want them to fall on it?
Miami - -14, and after backup QB Cassell shit the bed BB had to reinstate Brady for a series.
Wash - the only real example of running it up. And one TD was with the backup QB Cassell, who had to prove his worth after stinking it up the week before.
This is basically the story du jour (or whatever is French for "of the week.") It really comes down to the Redskins game, when they went for it on 4th down a few times rather than fall on it or kick a long FG. But all the talk now is how the Patriots are relentless mercenaries, running it up to scare off all future opponents. It's simply overblown.
I am not saying they'll never do it again. And you can bet there is a renewed focus on playing for 60 minutes after blowing an 18-pt lead to Indy last year. But anyone who is counting the Pats to constantly feed the scoring meter, guaranteeing an over week after week, may be in for a letdown at some point.
I submit that the high scores are more a reflection of how powerful the team is, and that's not just throwing the ball. They can run it too. They average 135 yds/game and 4.2 yds/rush -- with two starting RBs injured during the year. (Maroney is back now.)
Bottom line -- you show me a team who complains about running up the score, and I'll show you a losing team. If they truly wanted to run it up, you would see far higher scores, 50+ per game instead of 40 ppg.
good point CN, this covers guy wrote a similar article.
https://experts.covers.com/includes/article_ce.aspx?ce=14986&theArt=153420
good point CN, this covers guy wrote a similar article.
https://experts.covers.com/includes/article_ce.aspx?ce=14986&theArt=153420
There's no late hit because there is no on good enough to get to Brady and make it look like an accident. Face it, the Pats are just that good this year. Cash in on them while you can people! Stop hating! It took the Pats 22 years to get their first ring, let them have their glory, and we will make money off of it in the mean time. Can I get a F%@#in amen?!!?
There's no late hit because there is no on good enough to get to Brady and make it look like an accident. Face it, the Pats are just that good this year. Cash in on them while you can people! Stop hating! It took the Pats 22 years to get their first ring, let them have their glory, and we will make money off of it in the mean time. Can I get a F%@#in amen?!!?
| 1st, AFC East | Standing | 1st, AFC South |
| 439.5 ypg (1st) | Offense | 399.0 ypg (3rd) |
| 303.8 ypg (1st) | Passing | 258.7 ypg (6th) |
| 135.8 ypg (8th) | Rushing | 140.3 ypg (5th) |
| 268.5 ypg (3rd) | Defense | 272.9 ypg (4th) |
| Won 8 | Streaks | Won 7 |
| 1st, AFC East | Standing | 1st, AFC South |
| 439.5 ypg (1st) | Offense | 399.0 ypg (3rd) |
| 303.8 ypg (1st) | Passing | 258.7 ypg (6th) |
| 135.8 ypg (8th) | Rushing | 140.3 ypg (5th) |
| 268.5 ypg (3rd) | Defense | 272.9 ypg (4th) |
| Won 8 | Streaks | Won 7 |
Once again you make yourself sound like a lier. If you were watching the browns game you would know that the last score was when Gay retruned a fumble. I watch all Pats games, just like you say you do, so I'm confused by all of the bull that you keep throwing out there.
Are you going to say that Gay should have just fallen on the ball.
Dude you are so full of it,.
Once again you make yourself sound like a lier. If you were watching the browns game you would know that the last score was when Gay retruned a fumble. I watch all Pats games, just like you say you do, so I'm confused by all of the bull that you keep throwing out there.
Are you going to say that Gay should have just fallen on the ball.
Dude you are so full of it,.
I didn't read your post before mine. This guy is so full of it.
I didn't read your post before mine. This guy is so full of it.
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