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Betting for beginners: Finding value out of the thousands of Super Bowl props
in NFL Betting @wizard1183 Depends on whether KC and Kelce are romping. They only showed her midway through the 4th when he wasn't contributing to the offense last time. |
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Betting for beginners: Finding value out of the thousands of Super Bowl props
in NFL Betting DeVonta Smith under 4.5 receptions (-118) This prop is likely to come down to the wire, with Smith's most common result being exactly four catches. However, not every game is created equal. Smith went over this number in 100% of the games with Brown hurt and 100% of games with Pickett under center, but only 25% of games with Hurts and Brown both healthy. He has hauled in precisely four balls in each playoff game but has done so on a perfect catch rate. Against a superior Chiefs defense that funnels passes away from wide receivers, I find it unlikely that Smith's targets spike to the level necessary to grade this wager a loss. "Safe" legs to include in same-game parlays Dallas Goedert to have a 15+ yard reception (-300) Goedert played 12 full games this season and had a 15-yard catch in 10 of them, including a run of five straight contests that includes Philadelphia's three playoff matchups. The Chiefs allowed the second-most yards after the catch to tight ends and have also faced the highest average depth of target to tight ends. This is an easy recipe for success. Xavier Worthy 40+ receiving yards (-190) The Chiefs have a history of building up their rookies over the course of the season. We saw it with Tyreek Hill, we saw it with Rashee Rice, and now we're seeing it with Worthy. The -190 odds imply a 65% chance of this happening and, at first glance, Worthy did hit this mark in 56% of his full games. However, beginning with Week 11's game against the Bills, Worthy has had at least four catches, at least five targets and at least 40 yards in nine consecutive outings. The Chiefs are giving the ball to this electric youngster more in space, rather than challenging opponents downfield as often. |
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Betting for beginners: Finding value out of the thousands of Super Bowl props
in NFL Betting The bets Eagles to win, ML (+105) Last year, I bucked the analytics and backed the Chiefs as slight underdogs since they had played a brutal playoff schedule and were peaking at the right time, while the San Francisco 49ers almost backed themselves into the Super Bowl. FPI has the Eagles favored by 2.2 points this time around, and they've been more battle-tested in terms of opponent strength than Kansas City. To ensure victory against the Chiefs, you need to be capable of delivering a knockout blow. If there's one team with the skill set and fortitude to put KC on its heels, it's an Eagles squad that converts at short-yardage like no other team in NFL history, with shutdown corners and a difference-making talent in Saquon Barkley. Philly almost beat the Chiefs in this game two years ago, outgaining them and only falling short due to a ticky-tack DPI call and a defensive touchdown. Lastly, the Eagles haven't lost when fully healthy this season. They missed A.J. Brown in the one-point loss to the Atlanta Falcons (where a questionable play call likely cost them the game). They were without both Brown and DeVonta Smith when they were blitzed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and fell into a 24-0 deficit before achieving a single first down. And they lost Hurts due to a concussion when Kenny Pickett nearly knocked off the NFC runner-up Commanders. Eagles to score on first drive (+100) AND Chiefs to score on first drive (+100) The Eagles struggled to score on opening drives early this season, but they did turn it around with successful first drives in six of their last seven games, including touchdowns in four straight. The Chiefs have scored on seven of their last nine opening drives. The Chiefs have allowed opening drive scores in nine of their 20 games this season while the Eagles let both the Los Angeles Rams and Commanders score on their first drives during the playoffs. Taking both bets at +100 allows for a breakeven payout if only one team scores, and I think it's more likely both teams score rather than neither team.
Gray was a featured piece of the Chiefs offense for much of the middle of the season, especially as Travis Kelce faltered and Rashee Rice got injured. But with Xavier Worthy's role growing weekly and Hollywood Brown back from injury, Gray has seen his usage evaporate. Over his last five games, he's seen five total targets. Sure, he caught all of them but went under 1.5 grabs in all but one of those games. |
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Betting for beginners: Finding value out of the thousands of Super Bowl props
in NFL Betting TD scorers Player props Game props First drive -- Will the team score? Cross midfield? Reach the red zone? Have a 20-yard pass play? Half/quarter -- Spread/Total/Money line bets for every span of game time, the number of touchdowns in each half, and which quarter will see the most points scored. Game flow questions -- Will the team that scores last win the game? Will the game be tied at any point (not counting 0-0)? Will there be a score in the last two minutes of either half? Miscellaneous -- 2-point conversions, win margin, total number of scores in the game. Dos and Don'ts DO make sure to comb through all of the options. Sportsbooks are elite at setting lines on sides and totals because they've had practice for years, with lots of data to support their decision. These are the most popular bets to place so the sportsbooks get a lot of money on both sides and can settle on a number in (or near) the middle. However, when they branch out and offer this many different props, you can find some lines that are off from where they should be listed. DON'T make a same-game parlay with too many overs. For example, you may think all of the Chiefs' pass-catchers are in great spots after watching Zach Ertz find the holes in the Eagles defense last week, but they won't all go over in the same game. It's more likely that a few players go over their total while a few players go under. DO make a same-game parlay with correlated legs. Mahomes passing yards and Xavier Worthy receiving yards both going over likely happens together. Hurts going over both his completions and attempts props likely happens in a game where the Eagles are playing from behind. DON'T bet your normal amount on every prop, especially if you're planning on betting a lot of these markets. DO have fun with it! It's the last meaningful NFL action for seven months. Make the most of it while wagering responsibly. |
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Betting for beginners: Finding value out of the thousands of Super Bowl props
in NFL Betting Every season, I consider these types of articles to be full of fade-worthy material.
Betting for beginners: Finding value out of the thousands of Super Bowl props By Kevin Pulsifer ESPN logo In the Super Bowl Era, there have been a total of 14,127 games played. And, in those games, teams have gained a collective 9,147,069 total yards. Nine million sounds like a lot, doesn't it? But think about this: 9.1 million is going to be less than 0.1% of the total amount wagered by Americans on this year's Super Bowl. Every year, the American Gaming Association releases estimates on how much the U.S. will wager on the Super Bowl. In 2021, that number was $4.3 billion wagered by 23 million Americans, both of which represented single-event records at the time. By 2023, it had jumped to 50 million people and $16 billion. Last year, it was 68 million people and $23 billion. In all likelihood, it's going up again this year. So, yeah ... people like to bet on the Super Bowl. If you're reading this right now, you're either an experienced bettor looking for picks, or newer to the world of sports betting. If you're in the latter group, you're likely trying not to be overwhelmed by the sheer number of things you can bet on during the biggest sporting event of the year. Going from "overwhelmed" to "adequately whelmed" can take some practice considering the incredibly large number of ways to bet on the Super Bowl. There are almost as many ways to eat shrimp, as the film "Forrest Gump" taught us. Props are the fruit of the sportsbook sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, parlay it. There are passing props, rushing props, quarter props. Anytime touchdowns, first touchdowns, last touchdowns. There are quarter props, half props, drive props, kicking props, prop specials, prop parlays, prop alternates, props with juice, props without juice, props on Gatorade color, props sandwiches. That's ... that's about it. For any type of bettor, I'll guide you through this massive props smorgasbord so that when you get to your Super Bowl party next Sunday, the only thing you'll get lost in is the overflowing buffet table. We'll get to the picks in a minute, but first, here's a summary of what's available to be bet on along with some "dos and don'ts" to keep in mind. The markets Game lines
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Bad execution followed bad thinking. It was very costly. |
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By the way, Philly +1 in the Super Bowl is an obvious take. (I haven't, yet.) The only reason to hesitate is that Sirianni is just as idiotic as McDermott. I will fight you to the death on this point. |
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Is anybody talking about the idiotic decision to go for a two-point conversion in the first half of what was obviously going to be a high-scoring game? Or, the subsequent two-point conversion, (seemingly) necessary once the first one was stopped? Because once again, this game is proof that Andy Reid is smart, and all the other idiotic coaches in the NFL are dumb as a post. The same thing happened in the NFC championship game, but it didn't end up mattering. But just as happened in the Baltimore-Bills game last week, a stupidly early two-point attempt set up a late situation where (in that game) the Ravens needed a successful two-point conversion to keep their season alive. You don't go for two ( a less than 50 percent play) unless you are pretty certain that you'll only get the ball back once on offense. That is all. |
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Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:
Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime: Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by Skiball57: Not going to win that game with Henry with only 16 carries......................25-28 carries wasn't used enough in the first half........................blame it on the OC and the rest of the staff 8 in the box in the first half.... 2 ypc.... passed to open them up... Bills got lucky.... What I wanted to know was why they hadn't tried to get Henry some runs to the outside. It seemed like they kept trying to run it up the gut and then stopped running when it didn't work. It's a wide field That's where Henry lives teams try to make him run wide.. Yeah I know, but it seemed like maybe an adjustment could be made. |
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Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:
Quote Originally Posted by Skiball57: Not going to win that game with Henry with only 16 carries......................25-28 carries wasn't used enough in the first half........................blame it on the OC and the rest of the staff 8 in the box in the first half.... 2 ypc.... passed to open them up... Bills got lucky.... What I wanted to know was why they hadn't tried to get Henry some runs to the outside. It seemed like they kept trying to run it up the gut and then stopped running when it didn't work. It's a wide field |
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1-0-1 this week The luckiest cover ever for the win, and an extremely unlucky push. That said, and this is a point that gets driven home every year in the playoffs, the stupidity on display by so many coaches is just unreal. Eagles are gaining 9 yards a carry, looking to get a first down to end the game, so they decide on a Hurts dropback during which he takes his seventh sack. Before that, the idiotic play calling that costs the Eagles a safety. There was more. There is always more. Sirianni is an idiot. Ravens go for a 2-point conversion in the 3rd quarter, which they miss, which necessitates going for it at game's end, and they miss again. Yeah, Lamar made mistakes, the team made too many mistakes, but that's a mistake a coaching staff should never make. Last night, the Lions are ahead and looking to score a second TD, they're gaining 12 yards a carry, so they let human statue Goff hold the ball in the pocket on 3rd and 1 until he fumbles. Campbell for the L. |
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@Boisestateand8 That and the safety, terrible play calling by the Eagles at and key moments |
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That's the luckiest cover I've ever gotten, nothing even close. Would somebody please explain why KC ran another play, and especially that one? |
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I have Houston +9.5 Refs have their thumb on the scale Both can be true |
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***Macwesties * Sat. Jan. 18, 2025 * NFL * AFC * NFC * Divisional * Football Plays***
in NFL Betting Quote Originally Posted by Trinkster:
Well looks like it's a no brainer taking Texans with the points as I see most of you see KC having no chace today.I didn't realize how great Houston was till I started reading Covers forum today.I will let Mahomes and company know they should just stay home by the fire LOL GLA
You may not have heard that there's this thing called the point spread. |
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Eagles put up 300 yards with their B team in that last game. :) |
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1-1 last week This week: Eagles -6. Taking this on the theory that the snowy, cold forecast favors the team with the massive run game. Texans +9.5. I just don't think a team that ekes out narrow wins all season is going to suddenly turn it on...again. This season KC won four games by double digits: NO, Cle, SF, Pitt. Against playoff teams: Pitt won by 19, Houston won by 8, LAC won by 2 and 7, Buff lost by 9, Den won by 2, TB won by 6 in OT, Bal won by 7. Houston lost big twice this season, both against playoff teams (Bal, Minn). |
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Lol, now it did |
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Eagles 4th. Last 3 is pretty good.
It's refusing to show the table I added from here (remove spaces) teamrankings.com /nfl /stat /points-per-play-margin
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Quote Originally Posted by Lovethegame123:
@garbagetime is it just me or did the clear recovery from the overhead camera on the kickoff not seem a bit strange when they ruled in phillys favour? Very missed call |
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