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@DeaconBlues2525 If you haven't posted any picks in king of covers contest, does that typically mean you don't see any value versus vig on that particular day, or could you simply be busy and not had time to do a thorough cap? |
tvigilante2020 | 577 |
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It's currently -9 (-110) for Hard Rock Bet in Florida |
vanzack | 47 |
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I've been trying to tail mollydog picks (crushes the NCAAB King of Covers contest year after year). However, his or her lines are almost always significantly better for the side he or she wants than I can manage to get. Why is there such a large discrepancy? I thought you have to get the lines from covers.com? |
huskerfan5b | 2 |
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@Sportacus Does your record for the season include ML bets or is the record only for point spread bets? |
Sportacus | 7 |
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@rod_steel Where did you see suns 4.5 favs in game 5? |
rod_steel | 38 |
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huskerfan5b | 3 |
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Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz: DEN +3 -102 adding 1.166 units NYG, ARI, CIN, DAL all lines in my book the juice is too high, NYG sitting at -4, ARI -2, CIN +3.5 and DAL -6.5, while I gain half a point on all those lines, I dont want to pay the -113+ juice, I will let it sit closer to kickoff, if lines stays with high juice I will pass on adding more units. gl today. tailing all.
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MRxKrazz | 43 |
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Is your Cowboys line -103 or +103?
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MRxKrazz | 43 |
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango: How is it rigged? They take a huge lead, put in the subs and Knicks go on a run. That's basketball. Don't be to naive. I agree with you on this. Noone in the league would take the legal risk involved with rigging games. However, I DISAGREE with you on WIZERGUY. That guy rigs his record like a mofo.
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yorosan | 22 |
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I had Knicks +14...
Was upset I didn't wait until later. Would have gladly taken some at +17. Public all over GSW!! Amazing finish!!
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huskerfan5b | 2 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20: Memphis +8 $300 big play The announcement about the Cavs sitting was made way before your 8:52 AM post. At what time did you log your Memphis +8 bet? |
Pho-20 | 13 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy: I will not accept your parameters and you will not proceed to prove me a fraud because you will never be able to do so...never. You're just a disgruntled coat_tailer who lost a few plays and now you're angry. Go kick the dog, find a girl and go find a job in Vegas. You have to much time on your hands with your 3 day ramblings trying to prove me a fraud that so far you have failed miserably on. Now you want me to accept your parameters. I wont accept nothing from a blanked face prospect. Why don't you PM me so we can meet and you can talk to me like a man instead of hiding behind your computer calling people out. Where I get my lines and what I pay for juice to buy points is actually none of your business. The only line that matters to me is my bottom line. In all reality you can compare my lines/juice with all the sites in the world. What makes them the standard. Who the hell are they...the government. How do you know I don't give my information to some of the ( ) and get a kick back for my services. You don't know anything. You just assume and speculate from the standard practices that you were brainwashed into believing like you're the sophisticated sports line/ juice guru. The Bilderbergs run the show and we wont be a part of their multi-million dollar master manipulations. I will continue to post my selections my / lines and my juice. You don't like it...eat Sh*t Get a life and stop your 3 page ramblings in my thread. Maybe you need a girlfriend to spend some time with instead of focusing in on LOL. You told me to go back and verify your record. That's all I'm trying to do - follow up on what you told me to. I didn't think you would find it controversial to use some generic odds like the ones at sbrodds.com. I understand that everybody may get different odds at different sites, including locals, but the point of this exercise is to determine whether your picks are really useful to the public as a whole. You and your followers seem to think so; I question that. You said I'm lazy in an earlier post. Now that I'm willing to go back and spend two hours just adding everything up using some common sense markers, you won't accept that. Make up your mind. |
Wizerguy | 79 |
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Quote Originally Posted by motowner: You are not up 31 units with a 46-54 record. Just look at the summary of your 1 to 5 unit plays and the records beside them. You are: +4 units on 4u plays -3 units on 3u plays +6 units on 2u plays -11 units on 1u plays Total that up and you are down -4 units overall NOT counting juice. Add in the juice lost on your 54 losses and you're down about -15 units in total. So where does this "+30.89 units" units figure come from? he plays a lot of moneyline dogs. |
Pistol_Pete_44 | 543 |
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As many of you have seen, there has been some back and forth between Wizerguy and me in his Week 14 thread. If I do the detailed analysis I just offered to him in his thread, I will post it here. I don't want to waste my time. I want him to accept what are fair parameters in advance.
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huskerfan5b | 37 |
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WIZER, If you will accept now in this thread me calculating your units won based on the following premises, I will go ahead and spend the time to do it this week.
1. Regardless of the line you cite, using the most recent line stated at sbrodds based on the timestamp of your post. 2. In instances where you chose to buy juice, I will use 10 cent juice for all half points except from 6.5 to 7 and 7 to 7.5, I will use 15 cent juice and from 2.5 to 3 and from 3 to 3.5, I will use 25 cent juice. If you accept these parameters, I will proceed and I am pretty sure your record will be proven to be a fraud. |
Wizerguy | 79 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy: If my line was +2.5 I would by it to 3.5...just in case of FG game. My line was 3.. by my rule I always buy 1/2 pt to 1 pt ...I don't worry about how much it cost me...buying points has won me plenty of those FG games . If you cant buy up..take the +2.5..barring any Saints miscues ..they win straight up. They are 4-0 SU @ TBay last 4 there. But again if my figures even show a dog win..I will always buy the 2.5 or the 6.5 up past the #. You only pay the juice when they lose...and I don't lose many of them...BOL This is a retarded answer from someone that poses in this forum like a sophisticated sports bettor. It has been proven with math that buying juice from 2.5 to 3 in NFL is dumb. https://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/bet-nfl-spread-2-5-buy-half-point-take-moneyline/ |
Wizerguy | 79 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy: The only thing Huskerfan5b exposed is what a douchbag he really is. He cherry picks 41 selections out of 131 and then sets up a thread calling me out on my record. He asked me "please" twice to show units won for the season because the 60% could be misleading..then says thanks.. only to bad mouth me in a later posting. Talks about misleading..? He knows what my units won are and he knows what my record is and people like him including you porcelain fist( rehab) and the tards that bought the bill of goods are the frauds. Step up to the plate..post some plays and list a record..most likely cant hit 30% My units per play have been posted above. Put the work in and embarrass yourself as to what you may find. Im waiting for his post on that one. Since I was such an inspiration to him, maybe he can be an inspiration to me and finish what he started...but he wont, because hes the Fraud. I didn't cherry pick anything. I specifically chose games where you did not buy any juice because I am not confident that you are truthful at what juice you are buying your inflated lines for. At one point last week shortly after you posted your picks, I wasn't able to get the line/juice you said you had on all three different sites that I use. Your interest here is clearly, for whatever reason, in inflating your record. It's VERY easy to attain 60-65% by mysteriously buying points. Also, it's worth noting that when you buy juice as high as -140 as you did on the Atlanta game this week, you need to be successful at a much higher percentage, so it's VERY DECEPTIVE and BORDERLINE FRAUDULENT, to reply to a poster it doesn't matter because you only pay the juice when you lose as you have replied to many posters over the course of the season. That is a comment that is to bereft of nuance and intelligence. Also, it neglects the fact that many posters use bankroll management systems, where they risk more on a larger favorite (e.g, they would risk 524 to win 476 for a favorite at -110, but they would only risk 512 to win 488 for a favorite at -105); that is a very sound bankroll strategy and your response neglects the fact that for those using that strategy, they IMMEDIATELY LOSE MORE MONEY BY BUYING MORE JUICE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY WIN OR NOT. I also mentioned that even for the simple ATS picks with no juice that for some of them, I looked through the ENTIRE line history on sbrodds.com and they were NEVER available at the line you cited. Why don't you just a) cite your units won and b) cite the source of your line? All reputable posters do (a) and many do (b). I will be happy to do (a) over the course of this week but I will also put BIG ASTERISKS on those lines that I think you MADE UP given the time you posted and the line history. |
Wizerguy | 79 |
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whats the juice on the rangers/devils under?
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Krisamons | 8 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy: If you want to go threw my threads and take a tally of the wins and losses of the plays I bought points on, you will find that I am ahead of the game in that department..you only pay the juice when they lose. Thanks for inspiring me! https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=102358431 |
Wizerguy | 79 |
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So most reputable NFL cappers put units won down, he doesn't. I checked through all of his ATS predictions where he didn't buy a hook this year and he's 21-20 (see below). Also, several of those lines seemed pretty questionable (about 20%). I've noticed that for this week for his games with hooks, it's not possible to buy the hooks for the price he has mentioned. At some point, I may go back and reconstruct his units won using the hooks he cited, but that seems pretty pointless if he's making everything up like the juice he's buying. He also clearly is a huge teaser and parlay guy, and that seems pretty dumb to me given the added juice. Also, if someone can't get the same juice on a parlay or teaser, they are much less likely to question the poster because they will just assume on those that the juice is much different between sites. Long and short, this guy's a big fraud and I'm not sure why so many people in this forum revere him. * = Loss ^ = Victory WEEK 14 Oakland +3.5* WEEK 13 Jax +4.5* WEEK 12 Eagles - 3* Rams +9* Arizona+4* Bengals+4* Kansas City +3.5^ Week 11 Saints +3.5^ NE-11.5^ Week 10 Denver +2^ Arizona -13* Week 9 Denver +1.5* Week 8 Dallas -4^ San Diego +5.5* Bears+4^ Week 7 Buffalo - 2.5* Week 6 KC +1^ Jets+8* Week 5 Philly - 2.5* San Diego 4.5^ VIkings -6^ Cincinnati -1* Cleveland +11* Washington +3.5^ Atlanta +4.5^ Week 4 Cleveland +7.5* Buffalto +4.5^ Minnesota -4^ Jax+ 2.5^ KC +5* Week 3 Minnesota +7.5^ Giants -4.5* Denver +3.5^ SF +10* Buffalo+4^ Bears +7* Week 2 Indy+6* Week 1 Chargers +7.5^ NE+6^ Miami +10.5^ Giants PK^ |
huskerfan5b | 37 |
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