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"In an energy plan unveiled last year, Japan said it planned to build at least 14 new reactors by 2030."

be easy...and in just about the space of time that it took you write that...they pulled the plug on them yesterday....

The Fukushima Wind Farms were like the Energizer Bunny....they just kept going...and going...and going.....earthquake + tsunami be dammed.

Quote Originally Posted by be easy:



" Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism"

There's a difference between dissent and pathological hatred for the man.

The pathological side is mostly on display in this forum.

I know that BHO finally getting OBL sticks in the craw of you righties like a 6 pound ham bone.

The only cheer that arises from your pathetic mouths is when Obama fails at something...no matter the price to our country.

American Patriots in name only.

   Wag the Dog...part 1

  Wag the Dog...part 2....for all you Texans out there

And finally.............

“You’re travelling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind: a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.  That’s the signpost up ahead – your next stop, the Twilight Zone!  Welcome Birthers”

Birthers moving further and further along the Curve of Political Irrelevancy.

Agreed...you can lay some blame on the admin....business certainly doesn't like uncertainty and there is heaps of that with health care and tax questions hanging in the air.

I also know that if you do not water the roots, the plant will never bear fruit.  Sounds like something Chauncey Gardner would say.

And if having jobs corresponds to a healthy root system, turn on the irrigation water that is being held behind that corporate dam. Businesses and the US in general will all benefit from the fruit produced.

$2 trillion sitting in the mattresses of Corp. America.

I believe they will fill those mattresses to the $4 trillion level before hiring anyone.

Obama's fault.

I just know what is going to happen.

Obama will relent and go for the alligator or crocodile scenario.....and then the Repubs will turn around and demand sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their frickin' heads.

The madness needs to stop somewhere....

docJ:

I think we are simply seeing one of the insidious side effects of the 'Internet Age'.

Before eveyone was wired, if you had a crackpot idea that you wanted to disseminate, you could write a small 100 page book, and then search around for a desperate publishing outfit that would take a chance on selling a couple hundred or a thousand copies.

The resultant product would usually end up in the local library in a small dusty, little-visited corner inhabited by dubious characters that the librarian always kept a close eye on.

Or you could publish a small newsletter and hope to garner mailing addresses from word-of-mouth advertising, usually transmitted by those same dubious characters from the library.

Or you could get invited to 'splain yourself on a AM radio station broadcasting at 3AM in the morning, with your audience mainly consisting of bleary-eyed, long haul truckers cruising down the interstate.

Thus, crackpot bullshit would move through society at a relatively pedestrian pace.

Fast-forward to the Age of the Intrawebs and we see crackpot bullshit moving at the speed of light, infiltrating into and out of  'Basements of Mom's' around the planet.

You can compose any manner of unfounded wild speculation, add in a few photoshopped pics, hit the 'Send' button at 2:32 AM, and by 8:15 AM have 3 million adherents, reposting the same bullshit on their FacePage, tweating on their Tweater account, or watching a cartoon re-enactment of it on UTubes.

The ability of the internet to enhance the intellectual  capabilities of our society is still a highly debatable topic in my opinion.

But I really miss the hot librarians the most.

One represents something on the order of 1.0 additional year to US oil consumption.

The other represents something on the order of 110.0 additional years to US oil consumption.

Yes I would have to say these numbers provide contradictory evidence to you lame argument.

Sorry dinner time.....maybe go google some more on historical production trends as they relate to oil supply.  And look up the year that world oil discoveries peaked.....look up the year that US production peaked.  Look up the year that UK production peaked.  Look up the year that 45 of the top 60 oil producing countries peaked.  Look up the last year that we found more oil than we used (as I asked you originally). Look up Hubbert.

That should last you awhile....although if you do not even bother reading your own links...I doubt you will do anything with these.

I guess in the alternative universe you inhabit, these two estimates represent the same quantities.

You are wearing me down with you 'spitballs of stupidity' ..fourteenroad.

From link #1...."Bakken will add 175 to 500 billion bbls to N.D. reserves"

From link #2...." Bakken will add from 4.0 to 6.3 billion bbls to N.D. reserves"

As I said...you did not even read what you linked.....or if you did, you do not understand what was written.

Either way..........

Come back when you have a cogent argument....one that doesn't fall apart after 5 sentences.

Bushco were simply Opportunists Extraordinaire, being the beneficiaries of an extremely evil deed committed by outsiders upon the U.S.,  along with willful deeds perpetrated by their own hands.

Bin Laden's attack simply fell into their laps.

The opportunity thus presented itself.

At that point they simply picked up the ball and ran with it....into both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Opportunity cashed.

Where did I imply you are retarded?

Oh....You mean where you wrote twice..."And it is still in the best interests of the US to get us totally off of imported oil"

 A statement so naive most fifth grade 'Current Events" students would acknowledge as being painfully obvious.

And when you state that ...."relying on technologies which either are not feasible or have not been invented yet"  what the hell did you imply as your Manhattan-style project".

Manhattan-style projects are the embodiment of technologies that are not currently feasible or have not been invented yet.

Great discussion with you.....sorry I missed it.

Yes...I, along with every US citizen with over 100 functioning brain synapses, agrees with your proposition that it is a good idea to get off  imported oil.

Where you miss the forest for the trees is your suggestion to invest more of the US National treasure (Manhattan-style) in projects that accelerate the demise of our biosphere even faster than we are doing now.

Where did I imply....."you don't like anything that emits carbon, walk everywhere I guess"

I have no problem with emitting carbon.  Carbon that is already a component of the natural carbon cycle. What I do have a problem with is emitting the fossil carbon stored in over 2 trillion barrels of oil...of which we have already emitted half of the Earth's endowment.

What you want to do is delve into the remaining several thousand gigatons of fossil carbon represented by coal and unconventional oil reserves,  converting those to liquids which will compound the release of GHG's due to the conversion processes, and all of which are energy-intensive industrial methods that eat into current energy supply.

Use more energy and more money to produce more of a liquid that only hastens the degradation of a rapidly degrading world-wide ecosystem.

Good plan.

"The US should put together a Manhattan project style project to get industrial facilities for producing gasoline from tar sands, coal, and shale up and running as fast as possible".

A Manhattan-style project to increase the amount of atmospheric-altering gases at even a greater rate than we already injecting?

You do realize that those industrial facilities you mention produce even more GHG's and lower even further the EROEI ratio for oil use, in addition to the GHG's that always result when you burn the product?

How about a Manhattan-style project to address the alternatives to using a 5000 lb steel and plastic device belching damaging fossil fuel emissions to transport 600-700 million individual occupants to and fro?