mattbrot

@CyHawkHurricane

Oh wow. Major money line value here. This line seems off by 20 - 21 points.

Any guesses on what the opening line will be? Based on historical opening spreads and both teams body of work this season, I think it should probably be somewhere in the TCU -7.5 ballpark. But my guess is that the books will probably have it open somewhere in the TCU -4.5 range. 

Either way the Big 12 has been insanely impressive this year, once again. Which, coming from a diehard SEC fan pains me to say. 

Sorry. I meant this for the NCAAF forum. But any thoughts are welcome here as well. 

Sorry. I meant this for the NCAAF forum. But any thoughts are welcome here as well. 

Any guesses on what the opening line will be? Based on historical opening spreads and both teams body of work this season, I think it should probably be somewhere in the TCU -7.5 ballpark. But my guess is that the books will probably have it open somewhere in the TCU -4.5 range. 

Either way the Big 12 has been insanely impressive this year, once again. Which, coming from a diehard SEC fan pains me to say. 

 Told ya

Boom

@Mick_Dundee

 Meh. Bowl games only tell a minor part of the story. The totality of the season and the clear dominance as a conference year in and year out speaks for itself.

dont get too caught up in the bowl game hype. 

TCU is showing why BIG 12 is clearly the most dominant conference - top to bottom - in the country. And they have been for many many years now. It really is not even close. 

and this is coming from a die hard SEC fan. 

It changes the entire way the game was played. IMO it would of been a completely different outcome if the correct call was made there. 

This is not gonna be a popular thread but it must be said. The refs in the OU / LSU game should be looked into. They flat out stole that game from OU. OU has all the momentum and was poised to win that game until the refs had that terrible no call when the LSU defender basically tackled the OU receiver before the ball even got there in the first quarter. It is a shame to see all the hard work that those teams do just get taken away by some refs who might be in the take.

bu the way I am a die hard LSU fan for life. 

I don’t know guys. I am a die hard SEC fan. But I think this OU team is the best college football team we have seen in 30 years. I don’t know who can beat them. 

And unfortunately as an SEC fan it pains me to say it - but the SEC is so tremendously overrated this year. Probably the 4th or 5th best conference top to bottom. 

Letgopack - .500? ?? I have been here for 15+ years and that was Oficially the dumbest most ignorant post ever on covers. And that is saying something. 

Urban wildlife - as much as I hate to say it OU is prob the best we have seen in the last 15 years. Solid all around. 

WMI799 - no doubt. Been slaying it so far this year. As always I am sure the luck will eventually turn. 

Can we all agree that the SEC - other than bama and Kentucky - is tremendously overrated as a conference as a whole? They are laughable. 

And I say this as a die hard SEC fan. But those teams would not stand a chance in the big 12 for example. 

666els - see my comment above. 

I am a well documented non-partisan independent and have spent countless hours considering this situation. Here are two things that I think we can all agree on - republican or democrat.

1) If you voted for Trump you are a flawed individual and should have your voting rights reduced (maybe it only counts for 1/2 of a full vote or something like that). After all much like committing a crime - stupid, selfish, and bad actions have consequences. 

2) If you continue to support Trump you are a flawed and inferior individual - frankly an embarrassment. And your voting rights should be immediately and permanently revoked. 

the lack of critical thinking ability is astonishing.

I am a non-partisan independent which means that I see both sides of the political spectrum fairly equally. So I feel like I have the skins on the wall where I can say that even though this forum can be annoying at times (almost exclusively because of the far right blowhards in here) it has its purpose. 

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