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Quote Originally Posted by jake5: Philly, Im not a big teaser guy but i do bet 2-3 team parlays often. 3 teams I love: SMU over North Texas Penn State over Kent State and ND over Texas Iffy on: Ball State over Georgia State & Temple over army Thoughts On which you think the best 3 teams to pair together ATS would be ? Love, love, love PSU play. That is my lock of the week. Kent State's offense will struggle heavily against an underrated PSU D. Also, look for the offense and especially the offensive line to improve this season. This is the first year that Franklin can run his scheme with a mobile Quarterback. No one to stop Barkley/ Sanders in the backfield and absolutely no one to hang with the athletic ability at wideout. Have not looked into many of those games except ND Texas which I am extremely iffy on so I will not be touching it. Are you parlaying 2-3 spreads or moneylines? |
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Or are you confident that all 4 will win?
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phillysports717 | 9 |
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Which team is most likely to lose SU Week 1?
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Quote Originally Posted by a1_tellem: Philly, I understand your concerns with Iowa and Ark as well as they are my lat two teams to make the cut for this parlay. However, to answer your question, those two games still fall into the criteria I look for when playing these games. What I look for in these games after 3 years of playing these teasers are the following: 1. Power 5 school vs FBS School (Pref SEC/BIG 10 because of physicality) 2. Top 40 defense 3. Has to be playing at home 4. Either an efficient running game,do everything-QB or High Eff Passing attack 5.Good recent History/stats playing against other group 5 schools If the team I'm betting on fits those 5 looks then I move on to their opponent and grade off of these things: 1.4 Year Recruiting Class 2. Recent History vs. Power 5 schools 3. Ability (or lack thereof) to move the football 4. Offensive and Defensive line weight and Recruiting level 5. QB play One thing I've learned and we've all seen with the new playoff system is the necessity to win these cake games on your schedule by a ZILLION points because a close game vs a scrub can come back to hurt you in the style point department. So recently in the last three years there's been a bit of added incentive to really kick these group 5 and fcs teams fools. One thing I've also learned in a lot of these games in the past is that it's not really about the ability of the favorite to score 40, 50 points as much as it's about how bad the other teams are and how many points they GIVE away. Alot of these schools are going to be playing in front of the biggest crowds in theyre life, where it is louder than it's every been and the opponents are bigger, faster and stronger than theyve ever been or will be all year. Fla hasn't been a big scorer in tradition but theyre last 3 or 4 games vs group 5 teams they have won by an average of over 45 ppg. So if you can stay away from playing good non power 5 school's you stand better chance of them just laying down. Other than Appalachian state and possibly LA tech (massive roster overhaul for LA tech this year) the games I like fit that criteria. The size, depth and athleticism usually just kills these teams that dont have some special high efficiency/offense to catch you off guard with. And app does not have that, they prefer power rush which didnt bode well with Clemson last year and not sure it will with Tenn. We'll see. Jason, I apologize parlay 7 pays 4.5 to 1 so I bet 1,000 won 3,500 + my money back so 4,500. They have decent parlay cards at all the casinos that have a CG technology book as well as at LVH. Again not saying that this is a holeless approach or that its even statistically intelligent but it fits for me and I like this approach. Awesome, I look for the power 5 vs. group 5 as well. Also completely agree only taking a top 40 defense...any power 5 school can put up points, but its the defense that ultimately beats the spread. Good luck with your plays, look forward to sharing more insight throughout the season. Nice to have found someone on here with a similar strategy.
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Quote Originally Posted by a1_tellem: Philly, How do you feel about the following 7 games being teased together? Psu -9 UF - 26 Lou - 28 Tenn -13 Ark -11 Iowa -18 1/2 OSU -17 Essentially it's just power 5 schools vs group 5 schools but last year had I left weak behind, NO defense having AZ out of my teaser Ida landed big $. Last year week 1 I had Baylor -26, Ark -25, UGA -26, FLA -26, USC -19, UK -3 along with the only team in that mix without a defensive pulse...az -21 smh This year everyone in that list was rated top 40 in scoring defense, I hope to land it this year. What do you think? Really like Psu, Tenn, OSU Not sure about UF just because of unpredictabilty, however uMass does have a terrible offense. Iffy about Iowa and Ark. What info have you gathered from prior years with Power 5 schools?
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: what do these particular teasers pay? why wouldn't you either play a 2 team parlay or individual bets...I will assume that you are giving a lot of juice, and if one of teams out of the gate is marginal, you lose the bet... -128 and I am considering a few different parlay options but I wouldn't take Tennessee without the points from the teaser.
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Quote Originally Posted by mws: Alabama will win, but Penn State and Tennessee are awful plays in obvious lookahead spots. Disagree completely how can these be look ahead spots when they have been waiting for this game for months now? They will be prepared and focused. Tennessee will come out with a fired up crowd at a home night game. Penn State has a lot to prove this year and will be trying out their new up-tempo style. Kent State absolutely has no offense so 3 and outs will wear their defense down. I expect this to be a blowout.
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Quote Originally Posted by VEGASJASON: You know Phil Steele, use to be an amazing capper he fell off 5 years ago or so and I started to use other guys and my own capping instead. Congrats to him for his passion and work ethic (getting espn to come up with the FPI and now so openly talk about point spreads the past 2 years against the desires of the college football bosses). I have nothing but respect for Phil Steele. I have a website I will not disclose that to be is the gold standard of sports handicappers. Now talking about Iowa , they did only outgain opponents by 45 yards a game, benefited by +11 turnover margin, only blowout wins North Texas and Pudue. Not a huge fan of the skill position guys all 3 put up mighty average numbers last year. Leading Rb and WR not big play threats. Which team does the website like to cover most/ straight up win the game lsu, clemson or bama?
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Quote Originally Posted by VEGASJASON: wow Philly digging deep with that Sun Belt ATS stat. I hate teasers but thanks for your homework on that. Just curious, why are you not a fan of teasers?
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I could see them running into trouble later in the season, however I don't really see a sun belt team putting up a fight. Sun belt 4-13 ATS against power 5 conferences last year, 1-17 ATS with added 10 point teaser. Regardless, these senior leaders are fired up and will come out firing on all cylinders for a home night game. App st will have a very tough time scoring.
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also thinking about UF -26
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3 team, 10 point teaser. Which team loses?
Penn St. -9 Tennessee -12 Alabama EVEN also
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11 straight quarters against penn state** correction ^
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Another absolute steal is Penn State -19 at home against Kent State. Kent State's offense is just absolutely horrible and have not scored in 11 straight quarters coming into the game. They lost 34-0 last time they came here and Penn State has gotten better on both sides since 2013. Penn States D is stacked with LB's and bring back a decent secondary. Only big ? is dline. On the offensive side, Penn State will be trying out there new uptempo fast paced offense. They will run it down the throat of Kent state who will be gassed by the second quarter because of quick offensive 3 and outs. This is the first year we get to see the system Franklin has been wanting to run in effect, he has all his guys and has Sackenburg outta there. Deeper into the game, Penn State's depth at all positions will be extremely key, they have 3-4 formidable forces in the backfield as well as a plethora of playmaking WRs. Expect to see a 45-7 blow out.
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: speaking of hype...what do you think about Tenn v App St. As much as Tenn appears prima facie over hyped, I cap this game as a complete mismatch...motivation, expectations, coaching, and talent...the only major concern I have with regard Tenn is 2 new coordinators. both will help Tenn improve during the season, but in Game 1, especially the offense, not sure if the machine will be clicking on all cylinders...will appreciate your perspective. For me I think this game has been completely overlooked for no good reason. Expectations will be high, Tenn will come out fired up and regardless of 2 new coordinators they return 17 starters and 57 letterman. Shoop is an experienced and talented DC, he is not implementing an entire new system I don't think there will be big enough bumps for App at to make this a game. The sun belt went 4-13 ATP against power 5 conferences. There is a huge gap in talent here...we're talking about a top offense and defense who is an sec contender against a sun belt school. Vols 8-0 all time against SBC schools with an average of 30ppg victories. App st 5 straight opening road losses by 35ppg or more. I like Tenn heavily here. |
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Tailing you today, GL
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dubabay | 56 |
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bought at +312
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Play: Mets/ Marlins (Under) Red Sox (ML) Breakdown: Philadelphia Phillies @ Pittsburgh Pirates (Nola/ Glasnow) Phillies have not won back to back games at PNC Park since 2008 Phillies have not won back to back games against a team above .500 since May 17th and 18th Pirates 14-6 in last 20 at home against the Phils Phillies 0-6 in last 6 of Nola's starts Pitching Matchup- Nola limped into the All Star break getting shelled in his last 5 starts before missing a start to shoulder soreness. His last start on July 19 he pitched well in 6 innings giving up no runs on 2 hits in 6 innings of work. Nola was pulled after 68 pitches for precautionary reasons. The way Nola has pitched this year, it just depends which Aaron shows up. However, I do not see the Pirates being held in check two nights in a row, especially with the massive struggles Nola has had with predominantly right handed hitting lineups this season (MIN 6/21, and 2 WSH starts). Tyler Glasnow will be making his home debut tonight and I believe he will pitch well enough to get the win. Glasnow was knocked around a bit in his first major league start but with more time to prepare, I believe he will keep the Phillies off balance all day long. New York Mets @ Miami Marlins (deGrom/ Fernandez) 11 straight Mets games have gone under and 7 of deGrom's last 8 starts have gone under. deGrom has been pitching well lately, coming off of a complete game shutout against the Braves. I think he will take the loss tonight, but I would be shocked if the Marlins' put of a big number on him. Jose Fernandez has not allowed more than 1 ER in his last 7 home starts and an overall 1.53 ERA this season at home. He has also totally dominated the Mets this season in 2 starts, posting a 0.75 ERA against the team. This game shouts pitchers duel. Minnesota Twins @ Boston Red Sox (Nolasco/ Price) With both teams relatively hot, and swinging the bats well i will skip straight to the pitching matchup which gives me everything I need to know to put this game in the parlay. David Price, having a mediocre year has been pitching well of late at home and has gone at least 8 innings in his last 4 starts at Fenway. However, in his career price has dominated Minnesota. In his last 5 starts against the ballclub, Price has picked up 5 wins while posting a 0.94 ERA and a .169 BAA. That is pretty dominant. On the other side, Nolasco is quite the opposite when pitching at Fenway. The right hander has a career ERA of 10.80 when pitching in Boston and David Ortiz has hit 3 HRs off of him in 13 at bats. Thought about taking RL here, but decided just to go with ML instead. Let me know your thoughts! |
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2.92 ERA is bad? Has absolutely dominated the Phils this year as well
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PoeticJustice | 5 |
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Add:
Miami Marlins vs. Arizona Diamondbacks: NO RUN SCORED
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