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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 3:15 PM ET #76

    Daunte Wrights and his failure to just sit still and get a summons has made his family as rich as George Floyd’s! Way is it people of color have trouble with simple commands from the police?   99.9 % of these incident are escalating results of failure to listen to instructions and Comply!

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    Daunte Wrights and his failure to just sit still and get a summons has made his family as rich as George Floyd’s! Way is it people of color have trouble with simple commands from the police?   99.9 % of these incident are escalating results of failure to listen to instructions and Comply!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 5:08 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.

     

    Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.

     

    Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 5:19 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary..
    Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary..
    Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply. an_light

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 5:57 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary.. Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply.

     

    Wait I thought in Murica we're innocent until proven guilty ???

    When were the police given the right to shoot people for traffic violations and warrants ??? 

    Idiot cop already said he thought he was using his taser instead of his firearm..

    Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed .

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary.. Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply.

     

    Wait I thought in Murica we're innocent until proven guilty ???

    When were the police given the right to shoot people for traffic violations and warrants ??? 

    Idiot cop already said he thought he was using his taser instead of his firearm..

    Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed .

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 6:35 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by aaironworks:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: It wasn’t simply anxiety.  The man was overdosing and in the throes of dying. Objection OVERRULED.  You cannot prove Floyd was overdosing.  You cannot prove he was dying.  What CAN be proved is that Chauvin kept kneeling on Floyd's neck after his body went limp. they are saying it was his shoulder blades and you need pressure from both sides of neck to render consciousness

    What, do you think you're a doctor now, AA? You need pressure on both sides of the neck to render someone unconscious through compression of the carotid artery but you can put a guy out through compression to the chest. When I was a kid, we'd play a "game" which basically consisted of one of us standing against a wall and the others pressing his chest until he passes out. Compressing the carotid (sleeper hold) cuts off blood. The other just effects the ability to get air into the lungs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaironworks:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: It wasn’t simply anxiety.  The man was overdosing and in the throes of dying. Objection OVERRULED.  You cannot prove Floyd was overdosing.  You cannot prove he was dying.  What CAN be proved is that Chauvin kept kneeling on Floyd's neck after his body went limp. they are saying it was his shoulder blades and you need pressure from both sides of neck to render consciousness

    What, do you think you're a doctor now, AA? You need pressure on both sides of the neck to render someone unconscious through compression of the carotid artery but you can put a guy out through compression to the chest. When I was a kid, we'd play a "game" which basically consisted of one of us standing against a wall and the others pressing his chest until he passes out. Compressing the carotid (sleeper hold) cuts off blood. The other just effects the ability to get air into the lungs.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 7:06 PM ET #81

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     Stop please with the Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed ...She was helping her scumbag boyfriend on the fringes of his drug dealing while under surveillance and in the process of the raid the boyfriend fired the first shot ...Case closed. She made the decision to be involved in this lifestyle by shacking up with this criminal and payed the full bank roll....And mean while her shumk boyfriend lives to deal again! Ha Ha that’s life!

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     Stop please with the Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed ...She was helping her scumbag boyfriend on the fringes of his drug dealing while under surveillance and in the process of the raid the boyfriend fired the first shot ...Case closed. She made the decision to be involved in this lifestyle by shacking up with this criminal and payed the full bank roll....And mean while her shumk boyfriend lives to deal again! Ha Ha that’s life!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @DoubleUp4Life  Stop please with the Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed ...She was helping her scumbag boyfriend on the fringes of his drug dealing while under surveillance and in the process of the raid the boyfriend fired the first shot ...Case closed. She made the decision to be involved in this lifestyle by shacking up with this criminal and payed the full bank roll....And mean while her shumk boyfriend lives to deal again! Ha Ha that’s life!

     

    Sure pal , you back the blue until they don't want your CULT  entering the Capitol..

    Crappy law enforcement has been brutalizing minorities since day 1 ...

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @DoubleUp4Life  Stop please with the Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed ...She was helping her scumbag boyfriend on the fringes of his drug dealing while under surveillance and in the process of the raid the boyfriend fired the first shot ...Case closed. She made the decision to be involved in this lifestyle by shacking up with this criminal and payed the full bank roll....And mean while her shumk boyfriend lives to deal again! Ha Ha that’s life!

     

    Sure pal , you back the blue until they don't want your CULT  entering the Capitol..

    Crappy law enforcement has been brutalizing minorities since day 1 ...

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @DoubleUp4Life  Stop please with the Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed ...She was helping her scumbag boyfriend on the fringes of his drug dealing while under surveillance and in the process of the raid the boyfriend fired the first shot ...Case closed. She made the decision to be involved in this lifestyle by shacking up with this criminal and payed the full bank roll....And mean while her shumk boyfriend lives to deal again! Ha Ha that’s life!

    The drug dealer boyfriend and the fired the first shot boyfriend were two separate and unrelated dudes. The drug dealer was an X-boyfriend. The dude who fired was just a dude in bed with his chick who thought someone was coming through the door. I'm sure he knew her past. Probably thought it was an armed robbery attempt. I don't think they even charged that guy with anything. The gun was registered and everything. Bet he's got a way hotter chick now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @DoubleUp4Life  Stop please with the Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed ...She was helping her scumbag boyfriend on the fringes of his drug dealing while under surveillance and in the process of the raid the boyfriend fired the first shot ...Case closed. She made the decision to be involved in this lifestyle by shacking up with this criminal and payed the full bank roll....And mean while her shumk boyfriend lives to deal again! Ha Ha that’s life!

    The drug dealer boyfriend and the fired the first shot boyfriend were two separate and unrelated dudes. The drug dealer was an X-boyfriend. The dude who fired was just a dude in bed with his chick who thought someone was coming through the door. I'm sure he knew her past. Probably thought it was an armed robbery attempt. I don't think they even charged that guy with anything. The gun was registered and everything. Bet he's got a way hotter chick now.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 8:34 PM ET #84

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     he was dead at the 6 minute mark of being on his neck this is murder and the states attorney has already proven it to be murder in my opinion chauvin best be getting soap on a roap

     

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     he was dead at the 6 minute mark of being on his neck this is murder and the states attorney has already proven it to be murder in my opinion chauvin best be getting soap on a roap

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 8:37 PM ET #85

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     he kneeled on his neck way beyond a reasnable time frame hes guilty of either 2nd degree murder or manslaughter

     

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     he kneeled on his neck way beyond a reasnable time frame hes guilty of either 2nd degree murder or manslaughter

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 8:42 PM ET #86

    @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony 

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    @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 8:45 PM ET #87

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     and chauvin per trial testimoney was being told by floyd i cant breath u are killing me and kept applying pressure to back of neck this is murder plain and simple

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     and chauvin per trial testimoney was being told by floyd i cant breath u are killing me and kept applying pressure to back of neck this is murder plain and simple

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 9:01 PM ET #88

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     i listen to many many podcasts where people are wrongfully convicted of all kinds of crap and the number one thing i have learned cops and das and even judges in some cases are dirty as hell will hide evidence from defense attornies just to get convictions even when they know the person is innocent and theres proof that will prove they are innocent the cops and das in some cases just dont care and want the case of the books and surprise surprise they even openly committ brady violations the justicesystemis broken beyond repair 

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     i listen to many many podcasts where people are wrongfully convicted of all kinds of crap and the number one thing i have learned cops and das and even judges in some cases are dirty as hell will hide evidence from defense attornies just to get convictions even when they know the person is innocent and theres proof that will prove they are innocent the cops and das in some cases just dont care and want the case of the books and surprise surprise they even openly committ brady violations the justicesystemis broken beyond repair 

     
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    Reaching to hold and caress the weapon the fingers flex as the stress elevates and endorphins rush bubbling to the skin’s surface a physiological Molotov cocktail ready to forever change anything coming after it

    Is that a Taser in your hand or the standard grip

    blaster issued to every badge and pig ?

    goddamitt shittt !

    I shouldn’t speak in such a disrespectful manner

    I’m detesting my word mix

    your protection and service stupendously worth it

    it just hurts to think it’s inevitable that men’ll get hurt R.I.P

    i guess it’s percentages eventually it’ll resurface

    but the murder of that kid forget it the worst thing

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Reaching to hold and caress the weapon the fingers flex as the stress elevates and endorphins rush bubbling to the skin’s surface a physiological Molotov cocktail ready to forever change anything coming after it

    Is that a Taser in your hand or the standard grip

    blaster issued to every badge and pig ?

    goddamitt shittt !

    I shouldn’t speak in such a disrespectful manner

    I’m detesting my word mix

    your protection and service stupendously worth it

    it just hurts to think it’s inevitable that men’ll get hurt R.I.P

    i guess it’s percentages eventually it’ll resurface

    but the murder of that kid forget it the worst thing

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh:

    @Raiders22  and chauvin per trial testimoney was being told by floyd i cant breath u are killing me and kept applying pressure to back of neck this is murder plain and simple

    Correct about the 'can't breathe' part; incorrect about the murder part.  For example, this quote:

    "One of the  first medical examiners months ago said Floyd died from a "massive overdose of Fentanyl" that had "the effect of smothering his lungs."  Other drugs in his system also contributed. THAT is why he kept saying "I can't breathe"  from the beginning of the lengthy encounter -- when he was seated on the ground up against the building, when he was talking to officers, when they tried to seat him in the back of the patrol car and when he would not stay in the car and got out and tried to get away. He was gradually being smothered by the drugs he took."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh:

    @Raiders22  and chauvin per trial testimoney was being told by floyd i cant breath u are killing me and kept applying pressure to back of neck this is murder plain and simple

    Correct about the 'can't breathe' part; incorrect about the murder part.  For example, this quote:

    "One of the  first medical examiners months ago said Floyd died from a "massive overdose of Fentanyl" that had "the effect of smothering his lungs."  Other drugs in his system also contributed. THAT is why he kept saying "I can't breathe"  from the beginning of the lengthy encounter -- when he was seated on the ground up against the building, when he was talking to officers, when they tried to seat him in the back of the patrol car and when he would not stay in the car and got out and tried to get away. He was gradually being smothered by the drugs he took."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh:

    @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony

    Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts':

    (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist.

    there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try

    Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh:

    @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony

    Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts':

    (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist.

    there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try

    Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Daunte Wrights and his failure to just sit still and get a summons has made his family as rich as George Floyd’s! Way is it people of color have trouble with simple commands from the police?   99.9 % of these incident are escalating results of failure to listen to instructions and Comply!
     
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh:

    @benhogan76  he kneeled on his neck way beyond a reasnable time frame hes guilty of either 2nd degree murder or manslaughter
    I don’t think I have said anywhere that I thought it was appropriate for him to do that.peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Daunte Wrights and his failure to just sit still and get a summons has made his family as rich as George Floyd’s! Way is it people of color have trouble with simple commands from the police?   99.9 % of these incident are escalating results of failure to listen to instructions and Comply!
     
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh:

    @benhogan76  he kneeled on his neck way beyond a reasnable time frame hes guilty of either 2nd degree murder or manslaughter
    I don’t think I have said anywhere that I thought it was appropriate for him to do that.peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary.. Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply.   Wait I thought in Murica we're innocent until proven guilty ??? When were the police given the right to shoot people for traffic violations and warrants ???  Idiot cop already said he thought he was using his taser instead of his firearm.. Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed .
    Oh cool in your fantasy world no police are ever harmed, shot or killed. If that were the case, then police would have no reason to shoot black, white or latino people. Grow up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary.. Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply.   Wait I thought in Murica we're innocent until proven guilty ??? When were the police given the right to shoot people for traffic violations and warrants ???  Idiot cop already said he thought he was using his taser instead of his firearm.. Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed .
    Oh cool in your fantasy world no police are ever harmed, shot or killed. If that were the case, then police would have no reason to shoot black, white or latino people. Grow up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh: @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts': (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist. there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case

     

    100% incorrect. If you watched the actual testimony rather than the Newsmax editorial summary, you would have seen three witnesses testify exactly to this point, including one who was able to specifically state based on Floyd's body reactions when the oxygen level in his brain was not sustainable for brain function. 

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-knee-on-neck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh: @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts': (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist. there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case

     

    100% incorrect. If you watched the actual testimony rather than the Newsmax editorial summary, you would have seen three witnesses testify exactly to this point, including one who was able to specifically state based on Floyd's body reactions when the oxygen level in his brain was not sustainable for brain function. 

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-knee-on-neck.html

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh: @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts': (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist. there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case   100% incorrect. If you watched the actual testimony rather than the Newsmax editorial summary, you would have seen three witnesses testify exactly to this point, including one who was able to specifically state based on Floyd's body reactions when the oxygen level in his brain was not sustainable for brain function.    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-knee-on-neck.html
    were they “expert” witnesses?  

    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh: @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts': (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist. there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case   100% incorrect. If you watched the actual testimony rather than the Newsmax editorial summary, you would have seen three witnesses testify exactly to this point, including one who was able to specifically state based on Floyd's body reactions when the oxygen level in his brain was not sustainable for brain function.    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-knee-on-neck.html
    were they “expert” witnesses?  

     
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     They were. In fact, from watching the defense presentation thus far, I believe they are conceding manslaughter but arguing no malice aforethought as well as contributing factors to the death. 

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     They were. In fact, from watching the defense presentation thus far, I believe they are conceding manslaughter but arguing no malice aforethought as well as contributing factors to the death. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh: @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts': (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist. there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case   100% incorrect. If you watched the actual testimony rather than the Newsmax editorial summary, you would have seen three witnesses testify exactly to this point, including one who was able to specifically state based on Floyd's body reactions when the oxygen level in his brain was not sustainable for brain function.    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-knee-on-neck.html

    He medically concluded this from a grainy video? an_eek2

    I will defer to you on this, as I for sure, did not watch the testimony.  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy is my biatchh: @Raiderchauvin improperly used the hold and for to long according to the trainers in trial testimony Maybe so.  But this is the counter points from other 'experts': (1) He's not a 'rogue cop'  (2) He had over 800 hours of training on how to handle these kinds of situations (3) Floyd OD'd on Fentanyl (4) Your narrative is racist. there is evidence he wasn’t on the neck . You can’t listen to the media you have to actually look at the trial and evidence presented . It’s ok the be ignorant but you have to try Exactly. Watch ALL of the videos. Chauvin's knee was not on Floyd's neck. It was on his shoulder blade. The video that went viral was taken from the front and the media had everyone convinced that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck when in fact it wasn't. Also, in order to make Floyd pass out and die, both sides of his neck would need to be constricted at the arteries. The state's witnesses are just virtue signaling and are so afraid of being called rascist, that they are testifying about things that aren't even relevant to the case   100% incorrect. If you watched the actual testimony rather than the Newsmax editorial summary, you would have seen three witnesses testify exactly to this point, including one who was able to specifically state based on Floyd's body reactions when the oxygen level in his brain was not sustainable for brain function.    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/us/george-floyd-knee-on-neck.html

    He medically concluded this from a grainy video? an_eek2

    I will defer to you on this, as I for sure, did not watch the testimony.  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    @benhogan76  They were. In fact, from watching the defense presentation thus far, I believe they are conceding manslaughter but arguing no malice aforethought as well as contributing factors to the death.

    Is this BD to you, from watching?  I heard it was one attorney for him against a slew of others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    @benhogan76  They were. In fact, from watching the defense presentation thus far, I believe they are conceding manslaughter but arguing no malice aforethought as well as contributing factors to the death.

    Is this BD to you, from watching?  I heard it was one attorney for him against a slew of others?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary.. Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply.   Wait I thought in Murica we're innocent until proven guilty ??? When were the police given the right to shoot people for traffic violations and warrants ???  Idiot cop already said he thought he was using his taser instead of his firearm.. Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed . Oh cool in your fantasy world no police are ever harmed, shot or killed. If that were the case, then police would have no reason to shoot black, white or latino people. Grow up

     

     

    I love good law enforcement....Related to a bunch ...

    Of course when deadly force is required they should use it 

    However how the F doesn't a 26 year vet not know the difference between a taser and firearm ??? 

    White people get harrassed and shot by a hole cops as well ..This isnt just solely a minority issue 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: There was no reason to arrest him. They had his ID.  Issue him a citation and move on.  It was not a violent crime and it was only 20 bucks. When white collar criminals steal millions, they don't get this treatment.  Minnessota and most states have a law called felony murder.  "A legal doctrine that allows anyone involved in a felony to be charged with murder if a death occurs during the course of the felony, even if they did not intend to kill anyone."    So Chauvin's intent is irrelevant and so is Floyd's state.  If Chauvin kneeling was a felony, then it was murder, There was a case where person A scammed person B out of some money. Person B and four of his friends  beat up person A.  After, as they were driving away person A fired a rifle at the car and killed someone.  Everyone involved was convicted of murder.   Good luck explaining anything to people who think the police are judge , jury and executioner ...That is until their orange messiah loses an election than its assault  the cops by all means necessary.. Haha I guess everything is Trump's fault. He's been gone nearly 3 months. You know who rarely get shot by police, people who comply.   Wait I thought in Murica we're innocent until proven guilty ??? When were the police given the right to shoot people for traffic violations and warrants ???  Idiot cop already said he thought he was using his taser instead of his firearm.. Breonna taylor was sleeping in her bed . Oh cool in your fantasy world no police are ever harmed, shot or killed. If that were the case, then police would have no reason to shoot black, white or latino people. Grow up

     

     

    I love good law enforcement....Related to a bunch ...

    Of course when deadly force is required they should use it 

    However how the F doesn't a 26 year vet not know the difference between a taser and firearm ??? 

    White people get harrassed and shot by a hole cops as well ..This isnt just solely a minority issue 

     

     
     
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     Maybe it is an OJ strategy to present different alternatives from different lines of questioning. But I have not seen that yet. They seem focused on contributory factors of death (manslaughter) rather than claim the Officer was no factor (complete acquittal). 

    Given that the Government never offered a plea to manslaughter (and my opinion is that is only because of the publicity), it isn't surprising that this becomes defense strategy. 

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     Maybe it is an OJ strategy to present different alternatives from different lines of questioning. But I have not seen that yet. They seem focused on contributory factors of death (manslaughter) rather than claim the Officer was no factor (complete acquittal). 

    Given that the Government never offered a plea to manslaughter (and my opinion is that is only because of the publicity), it isn't surprising that this becomes defense strategy. 

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