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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 1:59 PM ET #3051

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    There is simply no hope for you Jagerfury.  Depends on what you are talking about. If you are referring to your mythological fantasies, and me believing them as an accurate, and true picture of reality, you are right.

    May the God you say doesn't exist and that you don't care about have mercy on your soul and may you see the errors of your ways before you leave this Earth.

    Irrelevant to points raised, pointed questions asked.

    For surely as I speak these words blasphemy is one of the most serious sins.

    Assuming a point based on a flawed premise, sugarbear could tell you exactly which brand of nonsense this is peddling.

    Being agnostic is one thing but when you're an atheist with a hateful heart you have taken things to another level. May the Angels work on your heart and soul and you have a renewing of your mind.

    More of the same, see above.


    ...pray...

    Your mental masturbation adds nothing, and is a hollow substitute for meaningful action.

    Despite your hateful words the God that you say doesn't exist loves you and wants you to come home. You don't have to be separate but you have to change your ways.

    More of the same, see three above.

    Good luck in your efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    There is simply no hope for you Jagerfury.  Depends on what you are talking about. If you are referring to your mythological fantasies, and me believing them as an accurate, and true picture of reality, you are right.

    May the God you say doesn't exist and that you don't care about have mercy on your soul and may you see the errors of your ways before you leave this Earth.

    Irrelevant to points raised, pointed questions asked.

    For surely as I speak these words blasphemy is one of the most serious sins.

    Assuming a point based on a flawed premise, sugarbear could tell you exactly which brand of nonsense this is peddling.

    Being agnostic is one thing but when you're an atheist with a hateful heart you have taken things to another level. May the Angels work on your heart and soul and you have a renewing of your mind.

    More of the same, see above.


    ...pray...

    Your mental masturbation adds nothing, and is a hollow substitute for meaningful action.

    Despite your hateful words the God that you say doesn't exist loves you and wants you to come home. You don't have to be separate but you have to change your ways.

    More of the same, see three above.

    Good luck in your efforts.

    Always, I gamble.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:17 PM ET #3052

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Your 22 mikniks, you'll get it.  



    his age has nothing to do with it. he's actually lucky he's come to this realization at an early age instead of wasting time with fantasy land...
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Your 22 mikniks, you'll get it.  



    his age has nothing to do with it. he's actually lucky he's come to this realization at an early age instead of wasting time with fantasy land...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:23 PM ET #3053

    Why answer questions when no matter what we say you COWARDS will not accept them anyway. I also notice how you atheists have conveniently ignored the "EVIDENCE" that I presented especially you Sugarbear. I expected you guys to do this because this is what atheist do. Ignore everything and stay in denial.  
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    Why answer questions when no matter what we say you COWARDS will not accept them anyway. I also notice how you atheists have conveniently ignored the "EVIDENCE" that I presented especially you Sugarbear. I expected you guys to do this because this is what atheist do. Ignore everything and stay in denial.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:23 PM ET #3054

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    The problem to as Christians we experience things in our life that show us there is a God.  When you are atheist you are closed off  so you get separated even further. it's easy to see how you reach the point you have. God wants to be with us but you must invite him in. 

    Like I've said before, there are things in my life that I have experienced that have shown me without a doubt, God is real. Im at peace because I know it's 100% true due to personal experience. When you experience blessings from God in your life you want others to experience it as well. That is why you have such passionate people on the forum, teaching, preaching, sharing the message. It's life changing. Unfortunately the only ones that know this to be true are the ones that have opened their heart to God. 


    your so called "experiences/miracles" don't prove a god and do nothing for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    The problem to as Christians we experience things in our life that show us there is a God.  When you are atheist you are closed off  so you get separated even further. it's easy to see how you reach the point you have. God wants to be with us but you must invite him in. 

    Like I've said before, there are things in my life that I have experienced that have shown me without a doubt, God is real. Im at peace because I know it's 100% true due to personal experience. When you experience blessings from God in your life you want others to experience it as well. That is why you have such passionate people on the forum, teaching, preaching, sharing the message. It's life changing. Unfortunately the only ones that know this to be true are the ones that have opened their heart to God. 


    your so called "experiences/miracles" don't prove a god and do nothing for us
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:25 PM ET #3055

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Why answer questions when no matter what we say you COWARDS will not accept them anyway. I also notice how you atheists have conveniently ignored the "EVIDENCE" that I presented especially you Sugarbear. I expected you guys to do this because this is what atheist do. Ignore everything and stay in denial.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Why answer questions when no matter what we say you COWARDS will not accept them anyway. I also notice how you atheists have conveniently ignored the "EVIDENCE" that I presented especially you Sugarbear. I expected you guys to do this because this is what atheist do. Ignore everything and stay in denial.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:31 PM ET #3056

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Typical atheistic reponses, oh very typical atheists responses.

    It all comes back down to the same message from atheists, they want to be there own God, even KK inadvertantly said it somewhere in his posts before.

    It is very very clear from these answers that atheists WANT TO BE BEGGED BY GOD TO JOIN HIM IN HEAVAN.

    Thats all what it comes down to...

    Remember guys, you can blabber off whatever you want to, whatever you want, God knows the real reason why you reject him, aint it aint from a lack of proof, its the sole reason why he sent the angels to hell, because they wanted to be God...

    It just fits so perfectly.........



    what a load of crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Typical atheistic reponses, oh very typical atheists responses.

    It all comes back down to the same message from atheists, they want to be there own God, even KK inadvertantly said it somewhere in his posts before.

    It is very very clear from these answers that atheists WANT TO BE BEGGED BY GOD TO JOIN HIM IN HEAVAN.

    Thats all what it comes down to...

    Remember guys, you can blabber off whatever you want to, whatever you want, God knows the real reason why you reject him, aint it aint from a lack of proof, its the sole reason why he sent the angels to hell, because they wanted to be God...

    It just fits so perfectly.........



    what a load of crap
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:46 PM ET #3057

    We keep laughing at religion, but we're missing something FAR FUNNIER. We are talking to someone so stupid, so removed from reality, so incredibly retarded, that this person doesn't even know the definition of the words "evidence" and "coward." I dunno about the rest of you, but I learned those words somewhere around 3rd grade. 
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    We keep laughing at religion, but we're missing something FAR FUNNIER. We are talking to someone so stupid, so removed from reality, so incredibly retarded, that this person doesn't even know the definition of the words "evidence" and "coward." I dunno about the rest of you, but I learned those words somewhere around 3rd grade. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 2:55 PM ET #3058

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    We keep laughing at religion, but we're missing something FAR FUNNIER. We are talking to someone so stupid, so removed from reality, so incredibly retarded, that this person doesn't even know the definition of the words "evidence" and "coward." I dunno about the rest of you, but I learned those words somewhere around 3rd grade. 


    plus, this guy doesn't even believe in what he's preaching.
    typical hypocritical religious nut job

    stop being a coward kitty, and just believe! at least if you and believe and are wrong nothing happens, but if you don't!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    We keep laughing at religion, but we're missing something FAR FUNNIER. We are talking to someone so stupid, so removed from reality, so incredibly retarded, that this person doesn't even know the definition of the words "evidence" and "coward." I dunno about the rest of you, but I learned those words somewhere around 3rd grade. 


    plus, this guy doesn't even believe in what he's preaching.
    typical hypocritical religious nut job

    stop being a coward kitty, and just believe! at least if you and believe and are wrong nothing happens, but if you don't!


     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 3:21 PM ET #3059

    The point of religion is it is based on faith.  There is no evidence...
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    The point of religion is it is based on faith.  There is no evidence...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 3:26 PM ET #3060

    It's just a matter of whether you accept something without evidence (faith) or choose not to believe until you see some evidence.
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    It's just a matter of whether you accept something without evidence (faith) or choose not to believe until you see some evidence.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 4:53 PM ET #3061

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Why answer questions when no matter what we say you COWARDS will not accept them anyway. I also notice how you atheists have conveniently ignored the "EVIDENCE" that I presented especially you Sugarbear. I expected you guys to do this because this is what atheist do. Ignore everything and stay in denial.  

    I have read the greater part of this thread, and the discrepancy in intelligence between theists and the myriad forms of non believers is stark and startling.  The theists invariably resort to the most simplistic and transparent "arguments" such as the pathetic pascal's wager, and the ever shrinking god of the gaps, followed by appeal to (dubious) authority by quoting their own root legends as proof for the same.  Failing that, they resort to a particularly pathetic string of ad hominem attacks, such as the one quoted above, and the myriad others where this ill informed man chooses to draw attention to himself by screaming "COWARDS" from the hilltop, whilst the battle is raging in the valley below.  Ihave seen the great doctor penrose and his objections to the standard model of quantum mechanics repeatedly bastardized by the most sane and rational of the theists, and i will now put a stop to that.  Penrose, like hawking, greene, and myriad others have their own pet theories to advance in the search for a unified field theory.  Penroses' pet is twistor theory, and his attacks on the standard model should be viewed in such light.  Seeing as you are obviously ignorant of the physics behind his critiques and instead choose to  co-opt them in defense of theism, I would suggest you read his book "The Road to Reality" in order to satiate your man crush on sir penrose. All of that said, the standard model is still experimentally sound, and until an alternate theory becomes testable, it will continue to be the standard of particle physics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Why answer questions when no matter what we say you COWARDS will not accept them anyway. I also notice how you atheists have conveniently ignored the "EVIDENCE" that I presented especially you Sugarbear. I expected you guys to do this because this is what atheist do. Ignore everything and stay in denial.  

    I have read the greater part of this thread, and the discrepancy in intelligence between theists and the myriad forms of non believers is stark and startling.  The theists invariably resort to the most simplistic and transparent "arguments" such as the pathetic pascal's wager, and the ever shrinking god of the gaps, followed by appeal to (dubious) authority by quoting their own root legends as proof for the same.  Failing that, they resort to a particularly pathetic string of ad hominem attacks, such as the one quoted above, and the myriad others where this ill informed man chooses to draw attention to himself by screaming "COWARDS" from the hilltop, whilst the battle is raging in the valley below.  Ihave seen the great doctor penrose and his objections to the standard model of quantum mechanics repeatedly bastardized by the most sane and rational of the theists, and i will now put a stop to that.  Penrose, like hawking, greene, and myriad others have their own pet theories to advance in the search for a unified field theory.  Penroses' pet is twistor theory, and his attacks on the standard model should be viewed in such light.  Seeing as you are obviously ignorant of the physics behind his critiques and instead choose to  co-opt them in defense of theism, I would suggest you read his book "The Road to Reality" in order to satiate your man crush on sir penrose. All of that said, the standard model is still experimentally sound, and until an alternate theory becomes testable, it will continue to be the standard of particle physics.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 5:02 PM ET #3062

    You say no evidence? Are you serious? You idiot atheists compare Harry Potter to God. If you believed in Harry Potter and archeologists found Hogwartz that would certainly help your case. 

    Your moron scientists said that the Hittites as well as multiple other groups were myths? Not real. Fake. But guess what, archeologists found their entire culture. You keep asking for proof and it's all around. There are multiple multiple multiple archeological findings that support the Bible and make "scientists" look like fools.
    I know you bitches want God to appear to you and shove a rod in your ass but it ain't gonna happen (yet)

    Open your eyes, idiots. Read some stories. Read about people's personal experiences. I've had 4 neurologists and 9 doctors say that what happened to my family has NO scientific answer.  To thank God. The ones that were weak believers had their faith strengthened. Open your eyes. Read some stories. 

    Read about a boy that was 4 years old that died and went to heaven. Read about  him meeting his sister that his parents never told him about because she died at birth.  He knew her name and everything about her. Read about him taking a lie detector test. Funny thing is there are thousands of stories. Thousands and thousands. 

    Like I've said over and over, atheists are closed off to God and they will not experience his Grace. That is why it's a waste of time to be on here. 

    Merry Christ mas


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    You say no evidence? Are you serious? You idiot atheists compare Harry Potter to God. If you believed in Harry Potter and archeologists found Hogwartz that would certainly help your case. 

    Your moron scientists said that the Hittites as well as multiple other groups were myths? Not real. Fake. But guess what, archeologists found their entire culture. You keep asking for proof and it's all around. There are multiple multiple multiple archeological findings that support the Bible and make "scientists" look like fools.
    I know you bitches want God to appear to you and shove a rod in your ass but it ain't gonna happen (yet)

    Open your eyes, idiots. Read some stories. Read about people's personal experiences. I've had 4 neurologists and 9 doctors say that what happened to my family has NO scientific answer.  To thank God. The ones that were weak believers had their faith strengthened. Open your eyes. Read some stories. 

    Read about a boy that was 4 years old that died and went to heaven. Read about  him meeting his sister that his parents never told him about because she died at birth.  He knew her name and everything about her. Read about him taking a lie detector test. Funny thing is there are thousands of stories. Thousands and thousands. 

    Like I've said over and over, atheists are closed off to God and they will not experience his Grace. That is why it's a waste of time to be on here. 

    Merry Christ mas


     
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    his age has nothing to do with it. he's actually lucky he's come to this realization at an early age instead of wasting time with fantasy land...

    I'm 32, and my pendulum has swung from the agnosticism any sane, intelligent middle schooler feels, towards a harder, more entrenced atheism.  I attribute this to the accumulation of knowledege, and the lack of any huge personal tragedy and or substance problem during my immediate post adolescent years.  In my experience, the vast majority of true believers are either born, bread, brainwashed, or "come to god" early in their adulthood because of personal weakness/affliction, or tragic circumstances.  Most of the remainder are just terrified of their own mortality.  That said, dismissing a valid argument because of the age of its interlocutor is simply the most banal, base form of intellectual bigotry.

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    his age has nothing to do with it. he's actually lucky he's come to this realization at an early age instead of wasting time with fantasy land...

    I'm 32, and my pendulum has swung from the agnosticism any sane, intelligent middle schooler feels, towards a harder, more entrenced atheism.  I attribute this to the accumulation of knowledege, and the lack of any huge personal tragedy and or substance problem during my immediate post adolescent years.  In my experience, the vast majority of true believers are either born, bread, brainwashed, or "come to god" early in their adulthood because of personal weakness/affliction, or tragic circumstances.  Most of the remainder are just terrified of their own mortality.  That said, dismissing a valid argument because of the age of its interlocutor is simply the most banal, base form of intellectual bigotry.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    You say no evidence? Are you serious? You idiot atheists compare Harry Potter to God. If you believed in Harry Potter and archeologists found Hogwartz that would certainly help your case. 

    Your moron scientists said that the Hittites as well as multiple other groups were myths? Not real. Fake. But guess what, archeologists found their entire culture. You keep asking for proof and it's all around. There are multiple multiple multiple archeological findings that support the Bible and make "scientists" look like fools.
    I know you bitches want God to appear to you and shove a rod in your ass but it ain't gonna happen (yet)

    Open your eyes, idiots. Read some stories. Read about people's personal experiences. I've had 4 neurologists and 9 doctors say that what happened to my family has NO scientific answer.  To thank God. The ones that were weak believers had their faith strengthened. Open your eyes. Read some stories. 

    Read about a boy that was 4 years old that died and went to heaven. Read about  him meeting his sister that his parents never told him about because she died at birth.  He knew her name and everything about her. Read about him taking a lie detector test. Funny thing is there are thousands of stories. Thousands and thousands. 

    Like I've said over and over, atheists are closed off to God and they will not experience his Grace. That is why it's a waste of time to be on here. 

    Merry Christ mas




    like I said before, these so called "stories, experiences, miracles", mean nothing to anybody but that person, and they do not prove there is a god...
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    You say no evidence? Are you serious? You idiot atheists compare Harry Potter to God. If you believed in Harry Potter and archeologists found Hogwartz that would certainly help your case. 

    Your moron scientists said that the Hittites as well as multiple other groups were myths? Not real. Fake. But guess what, archeologists found their entire culture. You keep asking for proof and it's all around. There are multiple multiple multiple archeological findings that support the Bible and make "scientists" look like fools.
    I know you bitches want God to appear to you and shove a rod in your ass but it ain't gonna happen (yet)

    Open your eyes, idiots. Read some stories. Read about people's personal experiences. I've had 4 neurologists and 9 doctors say that what happened to my family has NO scientific answer.  To thank God. The ones that were weak believers had their faith strengthened. Open your eyes. Read some stories. 

    Read about a boy that was 4 years old that died and went to heaven. Read about  him meeting his sister that his parents never told him about because she died at birth.  He knew her name and everything about her. Read about him taking a lie detector test. Funny thing is there are thousands of stories. Thousands and thousands. 

    Like I've said over and over, atheists are closed off to God and they will not experience his Grace. That is why it's a waste of time to be on here. 

    Merry Christ mas




    like I said before, these so called "stories, experiences, miracles", mean nothing to anybody but that person, and they do not prove there is a god...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfApe:

    I'm 32, and my pendulum has swung from the agnosticism any sane, intelligent middle schooler feels, towards a harder, more entrenced atheism.  I attribute this to the accumulation of knowledege, and the lack of any huge personal tragedy and or substance problem during my immediate post adolescent years.  In my experience, the vast majority of true believers are either born, bread, brainwashed, or "come to god" early in their adulthood because of personal weakness/affliction, or tragic circumstances.  Most of the remainder are just terrified of their own mortality.  That said, dismissing a valid argument because of the age of its interlocutor is simply the most banal, base form of intellectual bigotry.




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    I'm 32, and my pendulum has swung from the agnosticism any sane, intelligent middle schooler feels, towards a harder, more entrenced atheism.  I attribute this to the accumulation of knowledege, and the lack of any huge personal tragedy and or substance problem during my immediate post adolescent years.  In my experience, the vast majority of true believers are either born, bread, brainwashed, or "come to god" early in their adulthood because of personal weakness/affliction, or tragic circumstances.  Most of the remainder are just terrified of their own mortality.  That said, dismissing a valid argument because of the age of its interlocutor is simply the most banal, base form of intellectual bigotry.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:



    like I said before, these so called "stories, experiences, miracles", mean nothing to anybody but that person, and they do not prove there is a god...

    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 
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    like I said before, these so called "stories, experiences, miracles", mean nothing to anybody but that person, and they do not prove there is a god...

    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 
     
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    question for all you believers. what religion do you think would you follow/believe in if you were born in a muslim family?
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    question for all you believers. what religion do you think would you follow/believe in if you were born in a muslim family?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:


    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 

    Right, because as we know. If a lot of people believe something, it must be true. 
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    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 

    Right, because as we know. If a lot of people believe something, it must be true. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    You say no evidence? Are you serious? You idiot atheists compare Harry Potter to God. If you believed in Harry Potter and archeologists found Hogwartz that would certainly help your case.

    Are you terminally stupid?  I was about to get to this, but i'll address it now.  Your failure to understand the most basic of analogy augers ill for your overall intellect.  The "harry potter" statement in its various forms suggested that in a vacuum, children exposed to this myth would grow up to regard it as true if it were preached by authority thus, or that if society were anihilated and harry potter survived and formed a tight cadre of believers, in a few hundred years it would probably be viewed in the same light as christianity, or any other religion, and have a legion of followers.  Of course both of theses suppositions are inherently untestable, just think of them as thought experiments.  Einstein was big on those.

     


    Your moron scientists said that the Hittites as well as multiple other groups were myths? Not real. Fake. But guess what, archeologists found their entire culture. You keep asking for proof and it's all around. There are multiple multiple multiple archeological findings that support the Bible and make "scientists" look like fools.
    I know you bitches want God to appear to you and shove a rod in your ass but it ain't gonna happen (yet)
     
    "moron" scientists do not dispute that many, if not all of the peoples mentioned in the bible actually existed.  What these mouth breathing, knuckledragging eggheads dispute are the fantastical, absurd, and just plain shitfuck stupid claims of the bible, such as virgin births, the entirety of humanity arising from a genepool of two individuals, boats carrying the sum of the earth's 10 million odd species, said earth being 6000 years old, talking snakes and donkeys...et vomitous.

     

    Open your eyes, idiots. Read some stories. Read about people's personal experiences. I've had 4 neurologists and 9 doctors say that what happened to my family has NO scientific answer.  To thank God. The ones that were weak believers had their faith strengthened. Open your eyes. Read some stories. 
     
    I suppose you have never heard of anectdotal evidence?

    Read about a boy that was 4 years old that died and went to heaven. Read about  him meeting his sister that his parents never told him about because she died at birth.  He knew her name and everything about her. Read about him taking a lie detector test. Funny thing is there are thousands of stories. Thousands and thousands. 
    Unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence.

    Like I've said over and over, atheists are closed off to God and they will not experience his Grace. That is why it's a waste of time to be on here. 

    Merry Christ mas
     
    I am closed off to ignorance for the sake of ignorance, which is the intellectual currency you and your ilk traffic in.


     

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    You say no evidence? Are you serious? You idiot atheists compare Harry Potter to God. If you believed in Harry Potter and archeologists found Hogwartz that would certainly help your case.

    Are you terminally stupid?  I was about to get to this, but i'll address it now.  Your failure to understand the most basic of analogy augers ill for your overall intellect.  The "harry potter" statement in its various forms suggested that in a vacuum, children exposed to this myth would grow up to regard it as true if it were preached by authority thus, or that if society were anihilated and harry potter survived and formed a tight cadre of believers, in a few hundred years it would probably be viewed in the same light as christianity, or any other religion, and have a legion of followers.  Of course both of theses suppositions are inherently untestable, just think of them as thought experiments.  Einstein was big on those.

     


    Your moron scientists said that the Hittites as well as multiple other groups were myths? Not real. Fake. But guess what, archeologists found their entire culture. You keep asking for proof and it's all around. There are multiple multiple multiple archeological findings that support the Bible and make "scientists" look like fools.
    I know you bitches want God to appear to you and shove a rod in your ass but it ain't gonna happen (yet)
     
    "moron" scientists do not dispute that many, if not all of the peoples mentioned in the bible actually existed.  What these mouth breathing, knuckledragging eggheads dispute are the fantastical, absurd, and just plain shitfuck stupid claims of the bible, such as virgin births, the entirety of humanity arising from a genepool of two individuals, boats carrying the sum of the earth's 10 million odd species, said earth being 6000 years old, talking snakes and donkeys...et vomitous.

     

    Open your eyes, idiots. Read some stories. Read about people's personal experiences. I've had 4 neurologists and 9 doctors say that what happened to my family has NO scientific answer.  To thank God. The ones that were weak believers had their faith strengthened. Open your eyes. Read some stories. 
     
    I suppose you have never heard of anectdotal evidence?

    Read about a boy that was 4 years old that died and went to heaven. Read about  him meeting his sister that his parents never told him about because she died at birth.  He knew her name and everything about her. Read about him taking a lie detector test. Funny thing is there are thousands of stories. Thousands and thousands. 
    Unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence.

    Like I've said over and over, atheists are closed off to God and they will not experience his Grace. That is why it's a waste of time to be on here. 

    Merry Christ mas
     
    I am closed off to ignorance for the sake of ignorance, which is the intellectual currency you and your ilk traffic in.


     

     
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    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 


    i know, and thousands and thousands of people have "seen" ufos, ghosts, big foot, lochness monsters and so on...
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    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 


    i know, and thousands and thousands of people have "seen" ufos, ghosts, big foot, lochness monsters and so on...
     
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    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 

    Thousands of people believe elvis is not amongst the ranks of the deceased- should we therefore not doubt the veracity of their claims?  Just a total logical failure.

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    Right, those thousands and thousands people. You are correct. 

    Thousands of people believe elvis is not amongst the ranks of the deceased- should we therefore not doubt the veracity of their claims?  Just a total logical failure.

     
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    Is that a picture of you surfape? I rest my case
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Is that a picture of you surfape? I rest my case
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    Is that a picture of you surfape? I rest my case
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Is that a picture of you surfape? I rest my case

    Congratulations surfape. I think this is the first time in 3000+ posts posts I can declare a victor. A complete lack of response and resort solely to personal attacks is the definition of concession of defeat. It's like when you're having an argument in person and your opponent starts cursing; you know you've won. Well done. 
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    Is that a picture of you surfape? I rest my case

    Congratulations surfape. I think this is the first time in 3000+ posts posts I can declare a victor. A complete lack of response and resort solely to personal attacks is the definition of concession of defeat. It's like when you're having an argument in person and your opponent starts cursing; you know you've won. Well done. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    Congratulations surfape. I think this is the first time in 3000+ posts posts I can declare a victor. A complete lack of response and resort solely to personal attacks is the definition of concession of defeat. It's like when you're having an argument in person and your opponent starts cursing; you know you've won. Well done. 



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    Congratulations surfape. I think this is the first time in 3000+ posts posts I can declare a victor. A complete lack of response and resort solely to personal attacks is the definition of concession of defeat. It's like when you're having an argument in person and your opponent starts cursing; you know you've won. Well done. 



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