If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

And belief in aliens is all empirically based ?

different rules for different reasons...

Oh, wait, you say you can use deductive reaosning to believe aliens exist even though you have no proof they exist, but you can use deductive reasoning, ok fair enough....

But we cant use deductive reasoining for God, ie, origins of the universe, fine tuning, hostoricity of Christ, objective moral duties, you cant use those, , for God it has to be emprical evidence...

I would hate  to see you be a judge in a court...

For starters, i wouldnt go to a big foot forum, i dont believe he exists, so i wouldnt bother going to that site, let alone be there months later arguing with them......

Yet you and your friends are still here...Wonder why...

Your (intentional?) misunderstanding of cosmology is only surpassed by your credulity.  In your next post you actually suggest that the shroud of turin is not a forgery?!  C'mon, get outta here!  As for your ad nauseum repetition of something arising from nothing, though other non theists have done a credible job wrangling with your semantics, perhaps a different tack is in order.  Simply because we do not precisely understand the conditions at the rise of our universe does not in any way support the existence of a god (or gods for pc)  It still boils down to as you say, "something arising from nothing" at its most irreducable state.  Your argument that a god not beholden to the laws of physics is much less plausible to the rational mind than the laws of physics breaking down in a singularity.  For all your claims of humbleness, you theists assert and assume so much, while we atheists know that we have come so far, yet have still much further to go.

I dont know about you, but i wouldnt go on a forum where the members believe in big foot and start calling big foot names...

Calling something that you dont believe exists at all names is a sign of craziness......

For starters, i wouldnt go to a big foot forum, i dont believe he exists, so i wouldnt bother going to that site, let alone be there months later arguing with them......

Yet you and your friends are still here...Wonder why...

And the typical atheist response just continue, you claim my knowledge of cosmology is not correct, yet you dont give reasons why.....not one....

If people who believed in bigfoot grew exponentially in number and started persecuting gays and women, warring with loch ness monster believers, and acquiring WMDs, you damn well better believe i would...

BREAKING NEWS

ALL universities around the world have recieved a memo from Washington....From now on, in exams, students when answering questions  can answer with "because god is TRUTH" and because "god says so" and "i don't have to answer this question because i don't care about my grades or livelihood, god will take care of me"

They dotn have to give to reasons why they made there statement, the reasons above are more than sufficient...

This is called the "covers theism members" movement, where each question, even mutliple choice questions can be answered with the above.........Pass rates are expected to be 100% for the first time in human history....

I have read the greater part of this thread, and the discrepancy in intelligence between theists and the myriad forms of non believers is stark and startling.  The theists invariably resort to the most simplistic and transparent "arguments" such as the pathetic pascal's wager, and the ever shrinking god of the gaps, followed by appeal to (dubious) authority by quoting their own root legends as proof for the same.  Failing that, they resort to a particularly pathetic string of ad hominem attacks, such as the one quoted above, and the myriad others where this ill informed man chooses to draw attention to himself by screaming "COWARDS" from the hilltop, whilst the battle is raging in the valley below.  Ihave seen the great doctor penrose and his objections to the standard model of quantum mechanics repeatedly bastardized by the most sane and rational of the theists, and i will now put a stop to that.  Penrose, like hawking, greene, and myriad others have their own pet theories to advance in the search for a unified field theory.  Penroses' pet is twistor theory, and his attacks on the standard model should be viewed in such light.  Seeing as you are obviously ignorant of the physics behind his critiques and instead choose to  co-opt them in defense of theism, I would suggest you read his book "The Road to Reality" in order to satiate your man crush on sir penrose. All of that said, the standard model is still experimentally sound, and until an alternate theory becomes testable, it will continue to be the standard of particle physics.

I have seen it all.......

Surfape of Covers > SiR Roger Penrose....

BREAKING NEWS

ALL universities around the world have recieved a memo from Washington....From now on, in exams, students when answering questions  can answer with "what a load of crap", "thats not true"," your deluded", "thats wrong"...

They dotn have to give to reasons why they made there statement, the reasons above are more than sufficient...

This is called the "covers atheism members" movement, where each question, even mutliple choice questions can be answered with the above.........Pass rates are expected to be 100% for the first time in human history....

Surfape wrote

In my experience, the vast majority of true believers are either born, bread, brainwashed, or "come to god" early in their adulthood because of personal weakness/affliction, or tragic circumstances.

FAIL!!, recent university studies have shown you to be wrong.

Yet you are self confessed intelligent..