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Quote Originally Posted by archsage:
I really, really wanted to take you seriously. But rhetoric like this is very disheartening to hear. First you say that Christianity is the largest cult in the US. So far, you could be validated. You could even extend your post and say that Christianity is perhaps the largest cult in the world (depending, of course, upon the connotative and denotative meanings inflected on the term "cult").
Where your post begins to err rhetorically, is the second premise:
Are you meaning to say that teaching children things from when they are very young is brainwashing, and therefore wrong? Is teaching our children mathematics from birth, brainwashing? Again, this seems to be another example of intellectual dishonesty -- you would reject one instance of a certain procedure, but you would accept another instance of the same procedure. I would argue it to be quite hypocritical.
I really, really wanted to take you seriously. But rhetoric like this is very disheartening to hear. First you say that Christianity is the largest cult in the US. So far, you could be validated. You could even extend your post and say that Christianity is perhaps the largest cult in the world (depending, of course, upon the connotative and denotative meanings inflected on the term "cult").
Where your post begins to err rhetorically, is the second premise:
- Christians are brainwashed from birth
Are you meaning to say that teaching children things from when they are very young is brainwashing, and therefore wrong? Is teaching our children mathematics from birth, brainwashing? Again, this seems to be another example of intellectual dishonesty -- you would reject one instance of a certain procedure, but you would accept another instance of the same procedure. I would argue it to be quite hypocritical.
Fair enough, I get that a lot. I stand by what I said, you make very valid points and are obviously much more educated to state fact than I. For the record though, you like I will be dead within 100 years and your taking me serious is irrelevant to the facts. Carry on, you are doing a great job with your work, frankly I am enjoying it although I will admit you are just a man as I and your opinion eloquently and thought out as only someone who has wasted the same countless years in study on something so meaningless in the long run,to make sure every thought is not out of context is really no different then those who are brainwashed at birth as so many are, I see it first hand to a fault in the deep South.
You can define cults (and all your other fancy gibberish) and whatever you think you have learned (wasted) in your several decades of your life to fight the good fight when all one needs is common sense. I do not need to quote anything or prove anything to anyone to be just as correct, or more so in some area's (although I realize that is unfathomable to you) because it really all boils down to one thing...If you told someone that a virgin would have a baby that would rise from the dead without religious overtones they would put you away.
Common sense, not wasting one's life as a college professor is what matters, It Free's people up to live life, not waste it arguing such mute points (at least for days if not lifetimes with those you cannot sway. Those that can do, those that can't teach. As interesting as you portray yourself, you are basically in the same place those you argue with are, wasting life on a meaningless subject because it is a waste of time if too much time is put into it when one can be doing so much more from either point of view.
Your points are dead on for the most part (at least the few I wasted time deciphering), but you are the same as the cult (you define it your way, i'll mine), wasting your life with an agenda that is self serving. I do it because I am right, it's common sense where as you spend countless days, weeks, months, years and decades thinking about this, trying to prove a point to those who will never listen and igf they did, so what. It is fun trying, but a watre of time, Truly a wasted life.
Finally, If I do contradict myself or misspell words or use them out of context, so what. It does not make my house less cold, my steak taste any different or affect me in any way and frankly your opinion is yours, not mine. Carry on with your elegant banter, you are obviously the man and seriously probably quite interesting if I took the time to read most of your facts instead of capping games or doing something actually productive or fun...Knock your self out, we know the same thing, it is a fallacy, that I agree with you on. Having said that, your countless examples designed for self propaganda make you in some ways more sad than those who simply know no better.
One of us just chooses not to waste his life trying to prove facts to people who art brainwashed and need a reason to not be afraid of their mortality, he does it briefly and checks back time to time to laugh at the banter much as I do the people who actually think Democrats and Republicans are not on the same side as they laugh at 98% of you behing closed doors drinking fine Brandy together after a day of putting your minds on meaningless things to argue about as they do real damage onto the majority together. They are just like the WWE wrestlers, opponents fake beat the hell out of one another, actually witnessed that in Pensacola strip club Sammy's one night as The Macho Man and Undertaker laughed and got bloody well drunk together some 2 hours after watching them fight to the death. Enough, you have effectively drawn me into your web of wasted time, back to the real world, supplementing my income on sports...Your examples are impressive if not for the very sad fact that you have wasted just as much time in your life trying to prove something that is common sense and down deep you know it...Carry on with your important work...
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