how about your real father dies owing me a debt, and when you grow up i come after you for payment.. and you better come through or else!
your fake father is a fucking make believe asshole.
You have it ALL wrong.
What if your father didnt have the money to pay the debt and the bookmaker said that he was going to go after you, kill you as pay back. Then your father gave up his life to save yours???
Not only thats what Jesus did for us, but you are doing here is mocking your dad who sacrificed himself to save you.
Great bloke you are....
how about your real father dies owing me a debt, and when you grow up i come after you for payment.. and you better come through or else!
your fake father is a fucking make believe asshole.
You have it ALL wrong.
What if your father didnt have the money to pay the debt and the bookmaker said that he was going to go after you, kill you as pay back. Then your father gave up his life to save yours???
Not only thats what Jesus did for us, but you are doing here is mocking your dad who sacrificed himself to save you.
Great bloke you are....
no i am mocking a ridiculous mythological story.
you keep saying he died... but he came back to life 3 days later (so you say) and even took his human body with him back to fairytale land and now is back where he was before, as ruler of the universe.
where's the sacrifice again??
no i am mocking a ridiculous mythological story.
you keep saying he died... but he came back to life 3 days later (so you say) and even took his human body with him back to fairytale land and now is back where he was before, as ruler of the universe.
where's the sacrifice again??
he got his ass strung up (if this ridiculous story even happened) probably because he was a fucking charlatan.. probably the benny hinn of his day.
too bad we can't do it to the latter prick too.
he got his ass strung up (if this ridiculous story even happened) probably because he was a fucking charlatan.. probably the benny hinn of his day.
too bad we can't do it to the latter prick too.
no i am mocking a ridiculous mythological story.
you keep saying he died... but he came back to life 3 days later (so you say) and even took his human body with him back to fairytale land and now is back where he was before, as ruler of the universe.
where's the sacrifice again??
prove that it didnt happen? The MAJORITY of historcial scholars confirm the historicity if Christ, the empty tomb, yet you seem to think you are beyond that.
Furthermore, on one hand you were making an example of how what Jesus did was not good, then you proceed to say it was a fairytale...You are a confused person?
no i am mocking a ridiculous mythological story.
you keep saying he died... but he came back to life 3 days later (so you say) and even took his human body with him back to fairytale land and now is back where he was before, as ruler of the universe.
where's the sacrifice again??
prove that it didnt happen? The MAJORITY of historcial scholars confirm the historicity if Christ, the empty tomb, yet you seem to think you are beyond that.
Furthermore, on one hand you were making an example of how what Jesus did was not good, then you proceed to say it was a fairytale...You are a confused person?
Those are a very very good questions and it's good to be curious!! I don't recall anyone asking that question before on this thread but it has to be a question that is commonly asked by many.
There are many passages in the bible that discuss heaven but of course it is not possible to understand the full nature of heaven from a human perspective.
The bible tells us, "He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever" (Revelation 21:4).
Believers will receive a new body. "It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. They are buried as natural bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are spiritual bodies" (1 Cor. 42:44).
There will be no Sun or moon. "And the city has no need of sun or moon, for the glory of God illuminates the city, and the Lamb is its light" (Rev. 21:23).
Gravity will be absent or greatly reduced. Revelation describes the New Jerusalem as a cube 1,500 miles on each side. Under the current laws of gravity, any structure that size would immediately become a sphere. Therefore gravity would be either absent or greatly reduced. "And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband...And the city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal" (Rev. 21:2, 16).
There will be no sea. "Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore" (Isaiah 65:17). "But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God's righteousness" (2 Peter 3:13). "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone" (Rev. 21:1).
I doubt that heaven will be segrated because we will all be spiritually equal and you will not remember anything of what your body was when you were on earth. (read Isaiah 65:17)
Besides receiving a new body, those who enter heaven will be given a new name. "Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. To everyone who is victorious I will give some of the manna that has been hidden awaqy in heaven. And I will give to each one a white stone, and on the stone will be engraved a new name that on one understands except the one who receives it" (Rev. 2:17).
We will be incapable of committing sin. "For the husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her to make her holy and clean, washed by the cleansing of God's word. He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or an other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault" (Ephesians 5:25-27). "But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God's righteousness" (2 Peter 3:13). "On that day you will no longer need to be ashamed, for you will no longer be rebels against me. I will remove all proud and arrogant people from among you. There will be no more haughtiness on my holy mountain" (Zep. 3:11).
Therefore, we will not have all the problems we had on earth, they will be all gone. We will be able to enjoy each other's company without the fear of being hurt by anyone. It will be great to be physically and morally perfect and to have fellowship with others who have also been transformed.
There is so much more to say about what heaven will be like but that would mean I would have to type forever about it and so I just gave you a little glimpse of it. Perhaps I will just continue on it later on. For now just know that it will be paradise!!
Those are a very very good questions and it's good to be curious!! I don't recall anyone asking that question before on this thread but it has to be a question that is commonly asked by many.
There are many passages in the bible that discuss heaven but of course it is not possible to understand the full nature of heaven from a human perspective.
The bible tells us, "He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever" (Revelation 21:4).
Believers will receive a new body. "It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. They are buried as natural bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are spiritual bodies" (1 Cor. 42:44).
There will be no Sun or moon. "And the city has no need of sun or moon, for the glory of God illuminates the city, and the Lamb is its light" (Rev. 21:23).
Gravity will be absent or greatly reduced. Revelation describes the New Jerusalem as a cube 1,500 miles on each side. Under the current laws of gravity, any structure that size would immediately become a sphere. Therefore gravity would be either absent or greatly reduced. "And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband...And the city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal" (Rev. 21:2, 16).
There will be no sea. "Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore" (Isaiah 65:17). "But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God's righteousness" (2 Peter 3:13). "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone" (Rev. 21:1).
I doubt that heaven will be segrated because we will all be spiritually equal and you will not remember anything of what your body was when you were on earth. (read Isaiah 65:17)
Besides receiving a new body, those who enter heaven will be given a new name. "Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. To everyone who is victorious I will give some of the manna that has been hidden awaqy in heaven. And I will give to each one a white stone, and on the stone will be engraved a new name that on one understands except the one who receives it" (Rev. 2:17).
We will be incapable of committing sin. "For the husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her to make her holy and clean, washed by the cleansing of God's word. He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or an other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault" (Ephesians 5:25-27). "But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God's righteousness" (2 Peter 3:13). "On that day you will no longer need to be ashamed, for you will no longer be rebels against me. I will remove all proud and arrogant people from among you. There will be no more haughtiness on my holy mountain" (Zep. 3:11).
Therefore, we will not have all the problems we had on earth, they will be all gone. We will be able to enjoy each other's company without the fear of being hurt by anyone. It will be great to be physically and morally perfect and to have fellowship with others who have also been transformed.
There is so much more to say about what heaven will be like but that would mean I would have to type forever about it and so I just gave you a little glimpse of it. Perhaps I will just continue on it later on. For now just know that it will be paradise!!
i'm sure some ancestor of yours murdered someone..
maybe we can track down the descendents and hold you responsible and you can give them half of your current worth and make monthly payments to them as well.. sound good?
i'm sure some ancestor of yours murdered someone..
maybe we can track down the descendents and hold you responsible and you can give them half of your current worth and make monthly payments to them as well.. sound good?
The one that OWNS your soul, the ONE that you violated his law, the one that offers you his son as a chance for redemption and you still call him this?
The more i spend time on this site, the more it makes sense how God casts souls into hell for eternity. Before i didnt really understand, but reading comments like this, i comprehend now.
The one that OWNS your soul, the ONE that you violated his law, the one that offers you his son as a chance for redemption and you still call him this?
The more i spend time on this site, the more it makes sense how God casts souls into hell for eternity. Before i didnt really understand, but reading comments like this, i comprehend now.
yea some illiterate, deluded women supposedly found his tomb empty.. how do we even know that is true? ah the bible says so... good logic.. NOT
even if they did.. that proves he rose from the dead? and the rest of the idiotic story that goes with it? lmfao
yea some illiterate, deluded women supposedly found his tomb empty.. how do we even know that is true? ah the bible says so... good logic.. NOT
even if they did.. that proves he rose from the dead? and the rest of the idiotic story that goes with it? lmfao
i'm sure some ancestor of yours murdered someone..
maybe we can track down the descendents and hold you responsible and you can give them half of your current worth and make monthly payments to them as well.. sound good?
And what if we track down this ancestor and we find out that he actually gave up his life to save me?
And to top it off, i call him every derogotory name under the sun because he saved me?
i'm sure some ancestor of yours murdered someone..
maybe we can track down the descendents and hold you responsible and you can give them half of your current worth and make monthly payments to them as well.. sound good?
And what if we track down this ancestor and we find out that he actually gave up his life to save me?
And to top it off, i call him every derogotory name under the sun because he saved me?
what soul? any proof that these things even exist? have you even seen one? i sure haven't...
your skydaddy owns my soul? how do you know?
you have any evidence for these ridiculous claims?
what soul? any proof that these things even exist? have you even seen one? i sure haven't...
your skydaddy owns my soul? how do you know?
you have any evidence for these ridiculous claims?
You cant talk about something that you dont believe exists?
I dont believe in the tooth fairy, do i go and make threads about the tooth fairy? How does someone comment about something they dont believe exists? Not only do you not believe but are calling the being that doesnt exist names......
Why waste your time?
You cant talk about something that you dont believe exists?
I dont believe in the tooth fairy, do i go and make threads about the tooth fairy? How does someone comment about something they dont believe exists? Not only do you not believe but are calling the being that doesnt exist names......
Why waste your time?
completely trying to change the subject... on the ancestor bit..
your fake skydaddy got pissed because his children misbehaved and now i have to take the blame for it? what a jackass!
I wasn't around.. I had no part in this.. I didn't ask to be part of it.. but now I get blamed for it? lmfao
again... one of your ancestors certainly along the way did something terrible.. let's hold you responsible! sound fair?
completely trying to change the subject... on the ancestor bit..
your fake skydaddy got pissed because his children misbehaved and now i have to take the blame for it? what a jackass!
I wasn't around.. I had no part in this.. I didn't ask to be part of it.. but now I get blamed for it? lmfao
again... one of your ancestors certainly along the way did something terrible.. let's hold you responsible! sound fair?
it's a mythological story... i can talk about it just like i can talk about the flintstones or any other work of fiction.. not sure what you are getting at.
it's a mythological story... i can talk about it just like i can talk about the flintstones or any other work of fiction.. not sure what you are getting at.
what soul? any proof that these things even exist? have you even seen one? i sure haven't...
your skydaddy owns my soul? how do you know?
you have any evidence for these ridiculous claims?
Ok, lets live in a world where we need emprical evidence to believe.
When you go to sleep at night, do you have emprical evidence that you will wake up the next day?
what soul? any proof that these things even exist? have you even seen one? i sure haven't...
your skydaddy owns my soul? how do you know?
you have any evidence for these ridiculous claims?
Ok, lets live in a world where we need emprical evidence to believe.
When you go to sleep at night, do you have emprical evidence that you will wake up the next day?
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikniks: Why would I care what people said or did to me?? I get to go to heaven... That's fuckin awesome!!! Right, when someone mocks you, swears at you and whips you, would you say, i forgive you? I dont think so. You will be planning your revenge and how you will try and get back at them, LET alone forgiving them and giving uo your life for them....I bet if someone cuts you off your lane when driving you get furious and start throwing insults and curses back at that person let alone forgiving them and wanting to give up your life for them. Why would I care about this life if I knew I was going to heaven? You sir, are a fool... But, you wont even forgo your pleasures in this life to get to heavan. Your not willing to give up anything to go to heavan are you? Yet you think you will suffer a humiliating and agonizing death to go to heavan? You have very contradictory thought process. Rostos... What don't you understand?? All I'm saying is that if you told me 100% that if I killed myself that I could go to heaven, why wouldn't I? You're making the point that I should be giving up pleasures to go to heaven, but I don't believe in heaven, so that seems illogical to me... If I knew for certain I would be going to a magical place, then I'd be first in line for torture and suicide!! Truth is, your example was asinine. End of story... |
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikniks: Why would I care what people said or did to me?? I get to go to heaven... That's fuckin awesome!!! Right, when someone mocks you, swears at you and whips you, would you say, i forgive you? I dont think so. You will be planning your revenge and how you will try and get back at them, LET alone forgiving them and giving uo your life for them....I bet if someone cuts you off your lane when driving you get furious and start throwing insults and curses back at that person let alone forgiving them and wanting to give up your life for them. Why would I care about this life if I knew I was going to heaven? You sir, are a fool... But, you wont even forgo your pleasures in this life to get to heavan. Your not willing to give up anything to go to heavan are you? Yet you think you will suffer a humiliating and agonizing death to go to heavan? You have very contradictory thought process. Rostos... What don't you understand?? All I'm saying is that if you told me 100% that if I killed myself that I could go to heaven, why wouldn't I? You're making the point that I should be giving up pleasures to go to heaven, but I don't believe in heaven, so that seems illogical to me... If I knew for certain I would be going to a magical place, then I'd be first in line for torture and suicide!! Truth is, your example was asinine. End of story... |
deluded rabbi, charlatan, events of a persons life exagerrated, figure is completely made up..
not sure which one applies and it doesn't make 1 bit of difference.
deluded rabbi, charlatan, events of a persons life exagerrated, figure is completely made up..
not sure which one applies and it doesn't make 1 bit of difference.
The one that OWNS your soul, the ONE that you violated his law, the one that offers you his son as a chance for redemption and you still call him this?
The more i spend time on this site, the more it makes sense how God casts souls into hell for eternity. Before i didnt really understand, but reading comments like this, i comprehend now.
Yes indeed!! it all makes a lot of sense...well said!!
The one that OWNS your soul, the ONE that you violated his law, the one that offers you his son as a chance for redemption and you still call him this?
The more i spend time on this site, the more it makes sense how God casts souls into hell for eternity. Before i didnt really understand, but reading comments like this, i comprehend now.
Yes indeed!! it all makes a lot of sense...well said!!
Ok, lets live in a world where we need emprical evidence to believe.
When you go to sleep at night, do you have emprical evidence that you will wake up the next day?
Ok, lets live in a world where we need emprical evidence to believe.
When you go to sleep at night, do you have emprical evidence that you will wake up the next day?
yea your fake skydaddy is going to set me on fire because i can't con myself into believing these ridiculous stories..
yea that sounds like someone i would want to worship..
yea your fake skydaddy is going to set me on fire because i can't con myself into believing these ridiculous stories..
yea that sounds like someone i would want to worship..
completely trying to change the subject... on the ancestor bit..
your fake skydaddy got pissed because his children misbehaved and now i have to take the blame for it? what a jackass!
So you are immune from sin? You have NEVER sinned? You are perfect?
I wasn't around.. I had no part in this.. I didn't ask to be part of it.. but now I get blamed for it? lmfao
What are you getting blamed for?
again... one of your ancestors certainly along the way did something terrible.. let's hold you responsible! sound fair?
How are you responsible? What are you talking about? What is wrong with you?
completely trying to change the subject... on the ancestor bit..
your fake skydaddy got pissed because his children misbehaved and now i have to take the blame for it? what a jackass!
So you are immune from sin? You have NEVER sinned? You are perfect?
I wasn't around.. I had no part in this.. I didn't ask to be part of it.. but now I get blamed for it? lmfao
What are you getting blamed for?
again... one of your ancestors certainly along the way did something terrible.. let's hold you responsible! sound fair?
How are you responsible? What are you talking about? What is wrong with you?
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