If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

How will you go to heavan if you kill yourself? That is murder. Thou shall not murder, you wont go to heavan if you kill yourself.

I admit that I know I have faith in God that is 100% certain and is a fact.

With that said how can I admit to you that I don't know anything for certain?...lol

Isnt it funny how these 2 are ducking in and out between atheism and agnosticism depending on what suits there argument?

so your jehovah jackass created me ill and commands me to get better? what a douche.

*since this sinning concept of yours is completely made up.. no i haven't sinned.

* apparently your fake skydaddy is holding me responsible for the actions of other humans that lived thousands of years before I even existed.  again.. what a douche.

*we are talking about holding you responsible for the actions of 1 of your ancestors? what..? you don't like that idea of finding their descendents and having to pay them?

Can't you understand the analogy and the point Rostos was trying to convery over to the person he was responding to?...lol

You are not of intellectually logical sound mind, no wonder you can't understand that something can't come from nothing...lol

Did jesus kill himself no wdid he? Did he whip himself ? Did he nail himself on the cross? Maybe you should learn some history before making comments on here.

So people want to see God, scripture says that if you truely attempt to seek him and humble yourself, you will find him. That is a pretty certain guarantee, have you tried this?

not really concerned as to what your religion says are sins..

40% of these 'commandments' are how to worship this fake skydaddy of yours.

wow. what a conceited fucking jerk.. how about.. thou shall not rape? oops.. that's right your fake skydaddy approved of those types of things..

what about the other 603 commandments that you ignore?

you even ignore the 10 and think you can get away with it just by believing a ridiculous story.. lmfao.. like it would work that way even if it were real.

we aren't talking about my actions... we're talking about the passing down of guilt from father/mother to son/daughter.. you seem to want to ignore that little topic.

it's obvious you don't like that idea of paying for what some relative that you never even met did. but you can't really say that though, so you just keep trying to twist the conversation.

It's because they are confused and yeah it's pretty funny indeed!...lol

yea let's go find anyone who had someone committed suicide in their family or a close friend of someone who committed suicide and see how many of them think their loved one is burning in hell..

i'll say 0

Jesus didn't kill himself....now who's the dummy here?...lol

Repent your sins and ask Jesus for forgiveness...it's not too late while you're alive, otherwise you will go to the lake of fire of all eternity!

Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikniks: Um... No?  Plenty of people die in there sleep, so then should everyone should avoid sleeping?    Again missing the point, do you go to sleep AFRAID or WORRIED or EVEN THINK you might not wake up the next day? You have no proof you will wake up the next day, you have FAITH you will wake up the next day.   EVERYONE has faith, it is where you CHOOSE to place it. I, myself need evidence to believe in something like god and heaven.  I have no evidence, therefore I do not believe.  This thread is empirical evidence that you are a moron though    No evidence? How was the universe created? Do you have proof it wasnt God? Do you have proof it was god?!?!?!? NO!...  And there is evidence that you will wake up the next day.  There is stuff that goes on in the brain that makes it HIGHLY LIKELY that you will wake up.  I can no say that is highly likely that god exists...

And you just fell into the trap i set. of course i dont have emprical evidence. On one hand you are basing your beliefs on emprical evidence, then when i pose a question to you, you have inadvertantly shown that you have faith that God doesnt exist. You dont have empricial evidence that God doesnt exist. I have always maintained i have FAITH, yet the atheist seems to think there world view is based on emprical evidence.

Furthermore, the consensus amongst general cosmology is that the universe began to exist. I believe God craeted the the universe? What do you believe? The universe created itself out of nothing by nothing for nothing? 

we aren't talking about the death of your pretend savior.

your fake skydaddy is putting the guilt on us from birth for the supposed wrong doings of members from some ancient foreign tribe.

now again... if we could trace back a few generations and prove that your great grandfather murdered someone and this person had family members alive right now, should you have to pay them reparations? don't think you'd like that now would ya retard?

a disgusting and ridiculous concept isn't it?

and yet that's exactly what your not so loving fake skydaddy is doing.

Correction: Can't you understand the analogy and the point Rostos was trying to convey over to the person he was responding to?...lol

Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

Actually I know a lot about the Catholic faith.  I attended Catholic school for almost 15 years.  The funny thing is, the more I learned, the more illogical it all seemed.

So you "see" god huh?  What's he/she look like? 

you went to a catholic schoool for 15 years? Looks like you didnt pay much attention.

why should i believe your religion says and not someone elses?

and 2,000 years ago the chosen ones all ran around and raped, stoned, murdered for no good reason and that was all fine & dandy. did your god approve of that then? but not now?

oh that's right.. WE have deemed those things as wrong.

The last time i checked, suicide is taking your own life, the last time i checked others killed Jesus.