If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

There is no evidence on what caused the universe to be created.

We believe the cause was by Almighty God.

So what do you believe caused the universe to be created? Your answer has to be either you just don't know or it was just a freak accident...am I right?

LOLOLOL,

WHAT CAUSED the universe to come into existence?

The universe BEGAN to exist.

When the universe began to exist, space, time and matter began to exist. Prior to this The cause of the universe logically must be spaceless, timeless and immaterial. Hence the atheists dillemna, they have now been cornered because they dont believe in anything that spaceless, timeless and immaterial.

The most logical cause of the universe is a spaceless, timeless and immaterial mind UNLESS you believe the universe popped into existence out of NOTHING, BY NOTHING , FOR NOTHING.

You see the implications of athestic beliefs....?

The gap theory became increasingly attractive during the end of the eighteenth century and first half of the nineteenth century, as the new scientific discipline of geology made it increasingly obvious that Earth was far older than a straightforward, literal interpretation of Genesis and the Bible-based Flood geology would allow. The gap theory provided an attractive escape from this dilemma, allowing religious geologists to preserve both their faith in the Bible and in the new authority of science, which, according to the doctrine of natural theology, was now considered a second revelation—God's word in nature as well as in scripture. The two revelations could not contradict each other; some means of reconciliation had to be found. (Another popular approach was simply to denounce science, and geology in particular, as being atheistic and impious.

Oh, how hypocritical.....

We dont know how the first cell came into existence, but science will know one day.

we dont know what caused the universe, but science will find out one day...

There's your gap theory, science of the gaps........Dont go around spinning your hypocrtical thoughts here......

Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

I understand you are in the deep water, I understand the simple refutation of your gap theory by the above example is over your head intellectually. Not only is your postion that gaps in current knowledge can only be filled by god proved false by my quote above, it absolutely blows your position out of the water. A cursory knowledge of logic, philospohy, hell even time spent on the debate team would be able to see your statement, or the one I wrote and go, "your statement is a false equivalency, next.  Once again, I understand this is over your head, but any entry level college student understands why your proposed proof of god by way of gaps in human knowledge is not evidence of her existence. The fact you can't get your head around it is not the fault of others. It is once again an abject fail, or in your case, outright refusal to use/practice your intellectual faculties. Next...

I thought so, the typical atheist reponse to the Cosmological argument. Trapped into a corner, no where to move and dance around the argument with nothing by dribble....

You are not even a philosophical lightweight.

Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

I also have a theory as to why men are better drivers than women if you wanna hear that too 

You forgot how bad Asian drivers are too

The Arguments from ignorance, a lack of evidence for one view is erroneously argued to constitute proof of the correctness of another view. You are assuming a false dichotomy, and once again showing your ignorance. That is all you have demonstrated.

Here are the others you will come up with;

1. Red herring
2. Unfounded rhetoric.
3. Ad hominem
4. Special Pleading logic fallacy
5. Appeals to argument of ignorance logic fallacy (check)
6. Hand-wave off evidence.
7. Strawman
8. Circular reasoning (especially begging the issue that Irreducible Complexity has not yet been falsified)
9. Irrelevance
10. Illogical inferences and non sequitur
11. False dichotomies (check)
12. Using outdated references and obsolete sources in support of the position of (fill in blank)...

You don't have to go far, here is a prime example of unfounded rhetoric;

The Cosmological argument in isolation does not prove the Christian God but it certainly renders atheism false.

LOLOLOL, you are listing a number of supposed flaws in my logic, but nothing beats the atheists mantra -

"things pop into existence out of nothing, by nothing, for nothing".

Atheists

Why dont you go and debunk my cosmological argument bit by bit instead of going to a philosophy website, grabbing a bunch of words you dont understand and listing them as if they are relevant to my argument. The fact that you did PROVES you dont even know what they mean. Cmon, why dont you apply those terms against the cosmological argument??? Because you cant.

Thats all what you have done, tapped around the argument because you have no answer....

Oh, how convinient, cut and paste my sentence out of its context.

 Cmon Jagerfury, debunk the cosmological argument,

When i mean debunk, deconstruct it bit by bit, and no, dont go and copy and paste a bunch of words you dont understand. The fact that you did this illustrates you have no idea.

The typical atheistic response when backed into a corner.....

"Something can come from nothing in this natural world."