Let me address God
What is the hypothesis of God?
God is based in the sky, making miracles all year, hops on his angels, answers prayers, etc.
Has God been ever seen in the sky?
Has ANY miracle ever been accounted for?
Has anyone ever seen God flying around on his angels?
Now, the important thing here is NOT the answers to the questions above, rather the fact is, it would be possible to test the above hypothesis. (LOLLLLLLLLLLL)
It will be possible to test if a miracle has been accounted for, it will be possible to test a witness if they have seen God flying around....
You will be able to see, that the hypothesis of GOD is TESTABLE (In Rostos' world). As i said, it is not important what the answers are to the above, the fact is, they are testable. (The answers wouldn't be important to you, obviously).
Look at another example, what if i said there are kangaroos playing baseball on Mars? The important thing here is not if what i am saying is true, but that it is testable. It is physically possible to test my claim. (What if they were "invisible" like God is? What if they existed on a "supernatural plane?" Nice try clown)
How is God testable?
(The same way you apparently believe everything else is testable)
I cant believe you are missing the point. Atheists from acadamia DONT even use the santa claus argument cause they too realise Santa is TESTABLE , God isnt.
Instead of dancing around the argument, why dont you attack the argument paragraph by paragraph?
Once and for all.....SANTA CLAUS IS TESTABLE, GOD ISNT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ENHl7haaZU
The reason why it renders atheism false is because space, time and matter BEGAN to exist. All things that begin to exist have a cause. The cause of space, time and matter MUST be outside of space, time and matter. It renders atheism false BECAUSE the atheist ONLY believes in the observable natural universe, nothing outside it. Space, time and matter are part of the universe, the cause must be outside this boundary., UNLESS you believe space, time and matter created itself out of nothing by nothing for nothing.......Good luck with that.
This is why the KCA is such a bitter pill for atheists to swallow.
Now watch, there will be an emotional reply to this thread that doesnt attack the KCA at all, just some random BS reply.
You know what that means when that happens?
Thats not the point....Santa could be invisible, but he still delivers presents, OR are they invisible as well?
Every single present is testable to see if it can be accounted for. One could possibly search the whole north pole from end to end to see if Santa is there. One could sit and wait outside there xmas tree all night to see who delivers there presents.....ALL TESTABLE.......
Hypothetically
I believe the Lakers will beat the bulls on xmas day.
KK believes the Bulls will beat the Laks on xmas day.
Now does KK have ONLY have a lack of belief in the Lakers to win on xmas day or does he have a belief in the bulls in the bulls to win?
Neither of us have emprical evidence of who will win, we have faith of who will win, especially if we put money on it.
a lack of faith in one thing (Lakers) means you have put your faith in another thing (Bulls).
I cant believe you cant see this.
What is the hypothesis of God?
God is based in the sky, making miracles all year, hops on his angels, answers prayers, etc.
Who said he is based in the sky? Who said he is making miracles all year round? How do youKNOW he is not answering prayers?
Has God been ever seen in the sky? Who said he is the sky?
Has ANY miracle ever been accounted for? Absolutely, miracles happen all the time, visit hospitals, family homes, isnt life on earth a mircale?
Has anyone ever seen God flying around on his angels? Who said that he will be seen flying around on angels?
Now, the important thing here is NOT the answers to the questions above, rather the fact is, it would be possible to test the above hypothesis. (LOLLLLLLLLLLL)
It will be possible to test if a miracle has been accounted for, it will be possible to test a witness if they have seen God flying around....
You will be able to see, that the hypothesis of GOD is TESTABLE (In Rostos' world). As i said, it is not important what the answers are to the above, the fact is, they are testable. (The answers wouldn't be important to you, obviously).
Look at another example, what if i said there are kangaroos playing baseball on Mars? The important thing here is not if what i am saying is true, but that it is testable. It is physically possible to test my claim. (What if they were "invisible" like God is? What if they existed on a "supernatural plane?" Nice try clown)
Oh dear......
How is God testable?
(The same way you apparently believe everything else is testable)
This is the last time i respnd to you, how old are you ? 10? My goodness you sound like a little child.....God in the sky flying on angels?
Did you finish grade 6?
The belief in God and Santa Claus are very similar
As children we believe that Santa exists... why? Because we are taught that by our respective parents. As we grow older we begin to use our minds and ask questions regarding the validity on the story. Eventually we hit the point where we do not believe anymore.
Religion for some reason is differet in the sense where people are discouraged to question and are taught to take everything on faith no matter the facts presented.
As adults we don't need Santa in our lives... we just need the understand the true spirit of christmas. Its the thing that matters.
Religion is the same way... you don't have to believe in the divine to be a good person.... you just have to understand the concept of being the best person you can be for the benfit of all
The belief in God and Santa Claus are very similar
As children we believe that Santa exists... why? Because we are taught that by our respective parents. As we grow older we begin to use our minds and ask questions regarding the validity on the story. Eventually we hit the point where we do not believe anymore.
Religion for some reason is differet in the sense where people are discouraged to question and are taught to take everything on faith no matter the facts presented.
As adults we don't need Santa in our lives... we just need the understand the true spirit of christmas. Its the thing that matters.
Religion is the same way... you don't have to believe in the divine to be a good person.... you just have to understand the concept of being the best person you can be for the benfit of all
The belief in God and Santa Claus are very similar
As children we believe that Santa exists... why? Because we are taught that by our respective parents. As we grow older we begin to use our minds and ask questions regarding the validity on the story. Eventually we hit the point where we do not believe anymore.
Religion for some reason is differet in the sense where people are discouraged to question and are taught to take everything on faith no matter the facts presented.
As adults we don't need Santa in our lives... we just need the understand the true spirit of christmas. Its the thing that matters.
Religion is the same way... you don't have to believe in the divine to be a good person.... you just have to understand the concept of being the best person you can be for the benfit of all
you don't have to believe in the divine to be a good person.... you just have to understand the concept of being the best person you can be for the benfit of all
Absolutely true that you don't have to believe in the divine or anything else for that matter to be a good person, however what is inherently true for all is that we are all sinners, not one of us can say that we have never broken any one of the Ten Commandments or laws of God for our entire lives.
So the good person is not a sinless person. Anyone who boasts that they have never broken any of God's laws is a liar.
Christians, like myself, do believe in the divine because we believe in God, the Creator of the universe and everything else in existence.
In our Christian teachings we have learned and believed that because we are all sinners we can't go to heaven in the next life based on our own merits but because God's plan is for us to live with Him in heaven, He has provided a remedy for us.
"For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).
Before Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis3), they had a good relationship with God. Therefore, they were not ashamed to come into God's presence. But after they sinned, their relationship with God changed, and they were ashamed to come into God's physical presence. Sin had separated them and the entire human race-including you-from God. But God did not want sin to keep people from having a relationship with him. So he provided a way in which people could be cleansed of their sins and live with him in heaven forever. He gave his only Son, Jesus, as the perfect payment for everyone's sins.
So this is basicly our belief or faith if you will, in which we are not surprised at all that not everyone will share this same belief.
We are always hoping for new people to become Christians because that is what our Lord Savior Jesus Christ wants us to do which is to spread the Gospel (Good News) to save others.
There are some people on this thread who are always asking for proof but how foolish of them to think we can provide them concrete proof, much the same as they can't provide us concrete proof that our living, loving God does not exist.
There are though lots of evidence but the type of evidence we provide is not good enough for the proof they seek.
They have turned this into a debating contest which is foolish.
It would be better if they just ask questions concerning Christianity. Why just the other day a member ask me a question regarding gambling and I answred his question as best as I could. Oh well have a good night! 
Religion is like politics... you have to see out of both eyes in order to understand the purpose.
I understand people who believe in their respective faiths and have respect for those beliefs. But often times the religious are the biggest sinners of all... as they tend to be the biggest hipocrites.
Whether a god exists or not is second to the fact that we as people need to look out for each other and be the best people we can be. If everyone lived by the 10 commandments or even just the golden rule you would see a much nicer world. Unfortunately many religious and non religious are blinded by their own vanity to the point where they forget the true meanings and the bigger purpose.
Christmas and Santa Claus are under a similar logic strand. You don't have to believe in Santa in order to appreciate and understand the meaning of Christmas.
Tolerance is a common theme to most religions... yet you typically see little of it practiced. Its understandable to debate ones existence... but its folly to think that most of the beliefs of these religions are false. The foundations of wisdom and understanding are there.... its just we as people forget or just plain ignore it.
Absolutely true that you don't have to believe in the divine or anything else for that matter to be a good person, however what is inherently true for all is that we are all sinners, not one of us can say that we have never broken any one of the Ten Commandments or laws of God for our entire lives.
So the good person is not a sinless person. Anyone who boasts that they have never broken any of God's laws is a liar.
Christians, like myself, do believe in the divine because we believe in God, the Creator of the universe and everything else in existence.
In our Christian teachings we have learned and believed that because we are all sinners we can't go to heaven in the next life based on our own merits but because God's plan is for us to live with Him in heaven, He has provided a remedy for us.
"For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).
Before Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis3), they had a good relationship with God. Therefore, they were not ashamed to come into God's presence. But after they sinned, their relationship with God changed, and they were ashamed to come into God's physical presence. Sin had separated them and the entire human race-including you-from God. But God did not want sin to keep people from having a relationship with him. So he provided a way in which people could be cleansed of their sins and live with him in heaven forever. He gave his only Son, Jesus, as the perfect payment for everyone's sins.
So this is basicly our belief or faith if you will, in which we are not surprised at all that not everyone will share this same belief.
We are always hoping for new people to become Christians because that is what our Lord Savior Jesus Christ wants us to do which is to spread the Gospel (Good News) to save others.
There are some people on this thread who are always asking for proof but how foolish of them to think we can provide them concrete proof, much the same as they can't provide us concrete proof that our living, loving God does not exist.
There are though lots of evidence but the type of evidence we provide is not good enough for the proof they seek.
They have turned this into a debating contest which is foolish.
It would be better if they just ask questions concerning Christianity. Why just the other day a member ask me a question regarding gambling and I answred his question as best as I could. Oh well have a good night!
it looks like we have to go down a few levels of intellect to communicate something simple accross.
If Santa is real,
There would be presents given to kids that cannot be accounted for by anyone (other than Santa).
One would see Santa or his elves delivering presents down a chimnie on xmas day.
One would see Santa flying around on his reindeers from chimnie to chimnie.
Please complete the sentence
if God exists?
I am waiting to hear, honestly i am...
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