If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

The belief in God and Santa Claus are very similar

As children we believe that Santa exists... why?  Because we are taught that by our respective parents. As we grow older we begin to use our minds and ask questions regarding the validity on the story. Eventually we hit the point where we do not believe anymore.

yeah very similar indeed, when children grow, they ALL find the truth and stop believing in Santa. When Children grow into adults etc, the opposite occurs, alot start believing and finding God.......Definitly alot of similarities there arent there?  Great logic Sparty.....

Religion for some reason is differet in the sense where people are discouraged to question and are taught to take everything on faith no matter the facts presented.

Who is discouraging who? Have i ever been discouraged? No, i dont know anyone who has been discouraged. Your great logic continues.........

As adults we don't need Santa in our lives... we just need the understand the true spirit of christmas. Its the thing that matters.

Of course we dont need Santa, because it is testable and proven he doesnt exist.

Religion is the same way... you don't have to believe in the divine to be a good person.... you just have to understand the concept of being the best person you can be for the benfit of all

yes, i agree to a certain extent, but what is good? Without God, good and bad become relative instruments. It simply becomes ones opinion over the other, if i think child rape is good and you think it is bad, then it is no different to saying Lebron is better than Kobe, just one persons opinion over the other.....If we dont know what a straight line is, how do we know what a crooked line looks like?

it looks like we have to go down a few levels of intellect to communicate something simple accross.

If Santa is real,

There would be presents given to kids that cannot be accounted for by anyone (other than Santa).

One would see Santa or his elves delivering presents down a chimnie on xmas day.

One would see Santa flying around on his reindeers from chimnie to chimnie.

Please complete the sentence

if God exists?

I am waiting to hear, honestly i am...

Religion is like politics... you have to see out of both eyes in order to understand the purpose.

I understand people who believe in their respective faiths and have respect for those beliefs. But often times the religious are the biggest sinners of all... as they tend to be the biggest hipocrites.

Whether a god exists or not is second to the fact that we as people need to look out for each other and be the best people we can be. If everyone lived by the 10 commandments or even just the golden rule you would see a much nicer world.  Unfortunately many religious and non religious are blinded by their own vanity to the point where they forget the true meanings and the bigger purpose.

I agree with this, people in church are also sinners. It seems as though the people from the outside of religion looking in, have a false illusion that church goers are supposed to be perfect or sin free. The reality is they are human beings and subject to the same temptations as everyone else. They also preach but they also become hypocrites. But in saying that, i dont know any church goer who has said that they are perfect, or dont sin or are better than anyone else.

Christmas and Santa Claus are under a similar logic strand.  You don't have to believe in Santa in order to appreciate and understand the meaning of Christmas.

Santa is designed for little kids. It has NOTHING to do with anything. It baffles me why you bring this up. It is irrelevant.

Tolerance is a common theme to most religions... yet you typically see little of it practiced. Its understandable to debate ones existence... but its folly to think that most of the beliefs of these religions are false.  The foundations of wisdom and understanding are there.... its just we as people forget or just plain ignore it.

I think you are confusing arguments for God with religions and there purposes......You are bluring the arguments. I am not sure what you are trying to say here...

Please complete the sentence

if God exists?

I am waiting to hear, honestly i am...

the religious are the biggest sinners of all... as they tend to be the biggest hipocrites.

What evidence do you have that proves God doesn't exist?

Rostos, 

Santa Claus was a real person... the legend sprang from the doings of a real person.  Some would say...including myself that Christ  and his legend were formed on the exact same premise.

Yes, St Nicholas......However, he lived and passed.....Is this st Nicholas actually delivering presents HIMSELF , ie his spirit? Has a present ever not been accounted for? why wont you answer this question?

If you cannot see the similarities than so be it... am done discussing it period

I find it very hypocritical of you to say that i cant see the similarities when you have answered the KEY question which i have posted on several questions...Dodging a question is NOT a claim to winning an argument.

Isnt it amazing, that i have posted a question that clearly derails any attempt to compare God with santa and it just keeps on getting dodged time and time again...

Oh dear....

Once and for all....

Has a present EVER NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR?

Just answer it, just answer it, just answer it....

So a present has been given to a child before that has never been accounted for?  So, that present was not bought by a parent, friend, family , etc etc........That gift doesnt have a purchase trail or donation trail from a charity????? 

Do you realise what you have just said? You have just admitted Santa exists ...If a present has never been accounted for, that proves Santa exists doesnt it? otherwise how did it get there?

Now please provide at least a shred of evidence proving the existence of god...  Don't worry, I'll wait...

The universe....I have posited the KCA to you plenty of occasions, but you and your friends keep on dodging it...The historicity of Jesus Christ...The existence of objective morals, Fine tuning argument.....

I think we live in the Matrix.  Prove me wrong...  You can't so I guess it's true...

Whats this matrix you keep talking about....BTW, i never watched that movie....


See the point yet?!?

Did he really say that religious people are the biggest sinners?

Last time i checked, Stalin and Pot (who were both atheists and therefore non religious people) are the biggest mass murders in human history, nothing even compares.......