Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: One guy having a three-way conversation Comedy at covers is not limited to the fix guys. They have nothing on this guy. And he just won't stop posting. He won't stop having a three-way conversation with himself This is well documented in the cesspool sub forum....otherwise known as politics.... you hit the nail on the head, no need to question any further....evidence can be found all over the politics sub. Then you throw in the thread where Zircon lays out the foundation for the future attack, the one in this current thread where numnuts tries to do "maths" to reduce someone's overall UNITs with magic fuckkery.....not difficult at all to put the pieces together.....will MODS say anything?? doubtful. https://www.covers.com/forum/nfl-betting-21/unit-sizes-vanluckyguyothers-103697416/2
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: One guy having a three-way conversation Comedy at covers is not limited to the fix guys. They have nothing on this guy. And he just won't stop posting. He won't stop having a three-way conversation with himself This is well documented in the cesspool sub forum....otherwise known as politics.... you hit the nail on the head, no need to question any further....evidence can be found all over the politics sub. Then you throw in the thread where Zircon lays out the foundation for the future attack, the one in this current thread where numnuts tries to do "maths" to reduce someone's overall UNITs with magic fuckkery.....not difficult at all to put the pieces together.....will MODS say anything?? doubtful. https://www.covers.com/forum/nfl-betting-21/unit-sizes-vanluckyguyothers-103697416/2
Great Job Van this season. I was on Cowboys and Giants also. I loved Dallas but was on the fence with the giants. Seeing you played them for 4 units made my decision easier so thank you! I know your card is coming out Friday but I have a feeling you mite like Dallas again as much as I do? Hopefully! Good luck and great work
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Great Job Van this season. I was on Cowboys and Giants also. I loved Dallas but was on the fence with the giants. Seeing you played them for 4 units made my decision easier so thank you! I know your card is coming out Friday but I have a feeling you mite like Dallas again as much as I do? Hopefully! Good luck and great work
Great job Vanzack in the Wild Card Round and for the season, hope you join me this Sunday with 49ers -3-125,
49ers are 11-0 SU in their last 11 games overall. 49ers are 8-0 ATS in their last 8 vs. NFC. 49ers are 6-0 ATS in their last 6 home games. 49ers are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 Divisional Playoffs games. 49ers are 8-1 ATS in their last 9 games overall. Cowboys are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 Divisional Playoffs games. Cowboys are 2-9 ATS in their last 11 games in January. Cowboys are 1-5-1 ATS in their last 7 games after scoring more than 30 points in their previous game. Cowboys are 0-3-1 ATS in their last 4 games following a ATS win. Cowboys are 0-3-1 ATS in their last 4 games following a straight up win.
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Great job Vanzack in the Wild Card Round and for the season, hope you join me this Sunday with 49ers -3-125,
49ers are 11-0 SU in their last 11 games overall. 49ers are 8-0 ATS in their last 8 vs. NFC. 49ers are 6-0 ATS in their last 6 home games. 49ers are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 Divisional Playoffs games. 49ers are 8-1 ATS in their last 9 games overall. Cowboys are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 Divisional Playoffs games. Cowboys are 2-9 ATS in their last 11 games in January. Cowboys are 1-5-1 ATS in their last 7 games after scoring more than 30 points in their previous game. Cowboys are 0-3-1 ATS in their last 4 games following a ATS win. Cowboys are 0-3-1 ATS in their last 4 games following a straight up win.
This site has turned into collective little dick energy. I will say this. I am seeing a trend where if two or more people disagree with someone, or if two or more people thing so and so is a dick, then so and so simply states that they just must be the same person. We somewhat recently had a long time regular poster completely come off the rails accusing people of being the same person. The guy was a dick, in my opinion, and a serial shit disturber. As he became increasingly unhinged, and as more and more people called him out for being a dick and a shit disturber, he simply accused them(us) all of being the same person. It sets a dangerous precedent that when in a forum which exists for discourse/debate, any two people who agree to disagree with any other person must automatically be the same person because, "How could TWO people possibly disagree with me."
As far as I know, anybody could be an SAD but I will say this: Fubah and I are cool now but we have a very contentious past. Very. We had had some of the worst examples of these stupid internet chat room arguments. Arguments that have gone way past debating a relevant topic into being downright nasty. In all of those countless pages of nastiness, I never once saw those other two posters pop up. I have been in other threads with said posters and I'm quite sure they don't even know I exist. They've never made a comment to me. Maybe they're the same person but I would max bet that neither is Fubah. Fubah does have a real life friend who is also a member of this site, and who will often times come to his defense, but I am quite sure they are not the same person either.
I get it. Vanzack is a documented good capper and one of the more helpful posters on this site. And because of this he is one of the more popular posters. Fubah, by comparison, is not extremely popular. His presence in the politics forum has not made him many friends around here. So it's easy to pile on the guy and accuse him of having multiple SAFs, whatever but for context, consider this: Vanzack posts a winning season, he tracks it. Not sure if in one thread, or maybe thread(s) because I haven't followed it but being vanzack, people do follow it. And they praise his success. And all is well and good. Fubah creates a thread(s) and anyone who praises his success must be he himself? That's ridiculous.
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This site has turned into collective little dick energy. I will say this. I am seeing a trend where if two or more people disagree with someone, or if two or more people thing so and so is a dick, then so and so simply states that they just must be the same person. We somewhat recently had a long time regular poster completely come off the rails accusing people of being the same person. The guy was a dick, in my opinion, and a serial shit disturber. As he became increasingly unhinged, and as more and more people called him out for being a dick and a shit disturber, he simply accused them(us) all of being the same person. It sets a dangerous precedent that when in a forum which exists for discourse/debate, any two people who agree to disagree with any other person must automatically be the same person because, "How could TWO people possibly disagree with me."
As far as I know, anybody could be an SAD but I will say this: Fubah and I are cool now but we have a very contentious past. Very. We had had some of the worst examples of these stupid internet chat room arguments. Arguments that have gone way past debating a relevant topic into being downright nasty. In all of those countless pages of nastiness, I never once saw those other two posters pop up. I have been in other threads with said posters and I'm quite sure they don't even know I exist. They've never made a comment to me. Maybe they're the same person but I would max bet that neither is Fubah. Fubah does have a real life friend who is also a member of this site, and who will often times come to his defense, but I am quite sure they are not the same person either.
I get it. Vanzack is a documented good capper and one of the more helpful posters on this site. And because of this he is one of the more popular posters. Fubah, by comparison, is not extremely popular. His presence in the politics forum has not made him many friends around here. So it's easy to pile on the guy and accuse him of having multiple SAFs, whatever but for context, consider this: Vanzack posts a winning season, he tracks it. Not sure if in one thread, or maybe thread(s) because I haven't followed it but being vanzack, people do follow it. And they praise his success. And all is well and good. Fubah creates a thread(s) and anyone who praises his success must be he himself? That's ridiculous.
This site has turned into collective little dick energy. I will say this. I am seeing a trend where if two or more people disagree with someone, or if two or more people thing so and so is a dick, then so and so simply states that they just must be the same person. We somewhat recently had a long time regular poster completely come off the rails accusing people of being the same person. The guy was a dick, in my opinion, and a serial shit disturber. As he became increasingly unhinged, and as more and more people called him out for being a dick and a shit disturber, he simply accused them(us) all of being the same person. It sets a dangerous precedent that when in a forum which exists for discourse/debate, any two people who agree to disagree with any other person must automatically be the same person because, "How could TWO people possibly disagree with me." As far as I know, anybody could be an SAD but I will say this: Fubah and I are cool now but we have a very contentious past. Very. We had had some of the worst examples of these stupid internet chat room arguments. Arguments that have gone way past debating a relevant topic into being downright nasty. In all of those countless pages of nastiness, I never once saw those other two posters pop up. I have been in other threads with said posters and I'm quite sure they don't even know I exist. They've never made a comment to me. Maybe they're the same person but I would max bet that neither is Fubah. Fubah does have a real life friend who is also a member of this site, and who will often times come to his defense, but I am quite sure they are not the same person either. I get it. Vanzack is a documented good capper and one of the more helpful posters on this site. And because of this he is one of the more popular posters. Fubah, by comparison, is not extremely popular. His presence in the politics forum has not made him many friends around here. So it's easy to pile on the guy and accuse him of having multiple SAFs, whatever but for context, consider this: Vanzack posts a winning season, he tracks it. Not sure if in one thread, or maybe thread(s) because I haven't followed it but being vanzack, people do follow it. And they praise his success. And all is well and good. Fubah creates a thread(s) and anyone who praises his success must be he himself? That's ridiculous.
With all due respect.... You really arent putting in any due dilligence if you think Zircon, Fubah, and Zeus arent the same people. Just go read this thread. Then go read Fubahs long thread. Then click on their usernames and look at the cross pollination.
There really is no question they are the same.
Do I care? Did I come off the rails? No to both. I couldnt care less. The guy came at me, I found it super weird and kind of intriguing how insecure and attention starved he is - so I engaged. I dont want him banned. I dont know the guy - as neither does 90% of covers. Let him post to himself in his thread all he wants.
What I dont want is to have to start new threads because he messes them up. Thats all.
BTW... When you start talking about people as "real people" or that they have "real friends" - you are crossing a line IMO. We are all just words on a page. I wish nobody ill will in real life - but when I type words on here it is like barroom banter - nothing more. So Fubah (and zeus and zircon) would like more attention here - great - go get it - but leave me out of it.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
This site has turned into collective little dick energy. I will say this. I am seeing a trend where if two or more people disagree with someone, or if two or more people thing so and so is a dick, then so and so simply states that they just must be the same person. We somewhat recently had a long time regular poster completely come off the rails accusing people of being the same person. The guy was a dick, in my opinion, and a serial shit disturber. As he became increasingly unhinged, and as more and more people called him out for being a dick and a shit disturber, he simply accused them(us) all of being the same person. It sets a dangerous precedent that when in a forum which exists for discourse/debate, any two people who agree to disagree with any other person must automatically be the same person because, "How could TWO people possibly disagree with me." As far as I know, anybody could be an SAD but I will say this: Fubah and I are cool now but we have a very contentious past. Very. We had had some of the worst examples of these stupid internet chat room arguments. Arguments that have gone way past debating a relevant topic into being downright nasty. In all of those countless pages of nastiness, I never once saw those other two posters pop up. I have been in other threads with said posters and I'm quite sure they don't even know I exist. They've never made a comment to me. Maybe they're the same person but I would max bet that neither is Fubah. Fubah does have a real life friend who is also a member of this site, and who will often times come to his defense, but I am quite sure they are not the same person either. I get it. Vanzack is a documented good capper and one of the more helpful posters on this site. And because of this he is one of the more popular posters. Fubah, by comparison, is not extremely popular. His presence in the politics forum has not made him many friends around here. So it's easy to pile on the guy and accuse him of having multiple SAFs, whatever but for context, consider this: Vanzack posts a winning season, he tracks it. Not sure if in one thread, or maybe thread(s) because I haven't followed it but being vanzack, people do follow it. And they praise his success. And all is well and good. Fubah creates a thread(s) and anyone who praises his success must be he himself? That's ridiculous.
With all due respect.... You really arent putting in any due dilligence if you think Zircon, Fubah, and Zeus arent the same people. Just go read this thread. Then go read Fubahs long thread. Then click on their usernames and look at the cross pollination.
There really is no question they are the same.
Do I care? Did I come off the rails? No to both. I couldnt care less. The guy came at me, I found it super weird and kind of intriguing how insecure and attention starved he is - so I engaged. I dont want him banned. I dont know the guy - as neither does 90% of covers. Let him post to himself in his thread all he wants.
What I dont want is to have to start new threads because he messes them up. Thats all.
BTW... When you start talking about people as "real people" or that they have "real friends" - you are crossing a line IMO. We are all just words on a page. I wish nobody ill will in real life - but when I type words on here it is like barroom banter - nothing more. So Fubah (and zeus and zircon) would like more attention here - great - go get it - but leave me out of it.
I'll say this and leave it because I really want no part in this vag fest. There is cross pollination in the threads of many on this site. This site has a very small user base. This isn't facebook or Twitter. There are a handful of us here. You see the same guys in every thread. I think what really crosses a line is when people feel they can just gratuitously accuse people of being the same person simply because they disagree with one or more or them. I think what crosses the line is getting caught up in "my thread" or "his thread" when really these are all just covers' threads. There all "our threads". I think it is in poor taste to take over a thread one poster has been cultivating to track his personal progress, especially if that poster is someone known for being informative such as yourself. It turns the threads to shit and ruins the experience for those who would seek it out for information purposes. However, that thread belongs to the community. Not that person. I'll close by just saying this. I think there are a lot of attention starved people on this site. I think social media is populated by attention starved people.
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I'll say this and leave it because I really want no part in this vag fest. There is cross pollination in the threads of many on this site. This site has a very small user base. This isn't facebook or Twitter. There are a handful of us here. You see the same guys in every thread. I think what really crosses a line is when people feel they can just gratuitously accuse people of being the same person simply because they disagree with one or more or them. I think what crosses the line is getting caught up in "my thread" or "his thread" when really these are all just covers' threads. There all "our threads". I think it is in poor taste to take over a thread one poster has been cultivating to track his personal progress, especially if that poster is someone known for being informative such as yourself. It turns the threads to shit and ruins the experience for those who would seek it out for information purposes. However, that thread belongs to the community. Not that person. I'll close by just saying this. I think there are a lot of attention starved people on this site. I think social media is populated by attention starved people.
I think I have yet to EVER click someone's name to check their past posts so no, I won't be doing my due diligence. I don't care. I just had some ridiculously long and unnecessarily nasty arguments that involved Fubah in the past. Arguments across multiple threads. As I stated, we have a very contentious past. We've moved past that now but I'd find it hard to believe that if al three are one in the same,that the other two never,in all those countless threads containing countless pages of vitriol, the other two never once showed up. That's just my two cents. I guess that means now I'm Fubah too.
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I think I have yet to EVER click someone's name to check their past posts so no, I won't be doing my due diligence. I don't care. I just had some ridiculously long and unnecessarily nasty arguments that involved Fubah in the past. Arguments across multiple threads. As I stated, we have a very contentious past. We've moved past that now but I'd find it hard to believe that if al three are one in the same,that the other two never,in all those countless threads containing countless pages of vitriol, the other two never once showed up. That's just my two cents. I guess that means now I'm Fubah too.
I'll say this and leave it because I really want no part in this vag fest. There is cross pollination in the threads of many on this site. This site has a very small user base. This isn't facebook or Twitter. There are a handful of us here. You see the same guys in every thread. I think what really crosses a line is when people feel they can just gratuitously accuse people of being the same person simply because they disagree with one or more or them. I think what crosses the line is getting caught up in "my thread" or "his thread" when really these are all just covers' threads. There all "our threads". I think it is in poor taste to take over a thread one poster has been cultivating to track his personal progress, especially if that poster is someone known for being informative such as yourself. It turns the threads to shit and ruins the experience for those who would seek it out for information purposes. However, that thread belongs to the community. Not that person. I'll close by just saying this. I think there are a lot of attention starved people on this site. I think social media is populated by attention starved people.
Okay, I understand.
But let's get something straight. I'm not accusing him of being multiple people because multiple people disagree with me. You're insulting my intelligence and your own intelligence by assuming that this guy is not the same guy. It's obvious so let's accept that as fact.
I find it interesting that you think the guy who comes in here looking for cloud on the website who is clearly seeking attention for his own thread and states it over and over and over, is the guy who's not the one you were looking at as the aggressor. I simply responded to him. As I am responding to you now. So if there's any little dick energy here, I think you're looking at the wrong guy. I'm the guy posting and trying to talk sports gambling. The guy who came in here came in looking for his own attention. So maybe you should look at him. Just a thought.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
I'll say this and leave it because I really want no part in this vag fest. There is cross pollination in the threads of many on this site. This site has a very small user base. This isn't facebook or Twitter. There are a handful of us here. You see the same guys in every thread. I think what really crosses a line is when people feel they can just gratuitously accuse people of being the same person simply because they disagree with one or more or them. I think what crosses the line is getting caught up in "my thread" or "his thread" when really these are all just covers' threads. There all "our threads". I think it is in poor taste to take over a thread one poster has been cultivating to track his personal progress, especially if that poster is someone known for being informative such as yourself. It turns the threads to shit and ruins the experience for those who would seek it out for information purposes. However, that thread belongs to the community. Not that person. I'll close by just saying this. I think there are a lot of attention starved people on this site. I think social media is populated by attention starved people.
Okay, I understand.
But let's get something straight. I'm not accusing him of being multiple people because multiple people disagree with me. You're insulting my intelligence and your own intelligence by assuming that this guy is not the same guy. It's obvious so let's accept that as fact.
I find it interesting that you think the guy who comes in here looking for cloud on the website who is clearly seeking attention for his own thread and states it over and over and over, is the guy who's not the one you were looking at as the aggressor. I simply responded to him. As I am responding to you now. So if there's any little dick energy here, I think you're looking at the wrong guy. I'm the guy posting and trying to talk sports gambling. The guy who came in here came in looking for his own attention. So maybe you should look at him. Just a thought.
@vanzack I think I have yet to EVER click someone's name to check their past posts so no, I won't be doing my due diligence. I don't care. I just had some ridiculously long and unnecessarily nasty arguments that involved Fubah in the past. Arguments across multiple threads. As I stated, we have a very contentious past. We've moved past that now but I'd find it hard to believe that if al three are one in the same,that the other two never,in all those countless threads containing countless pages of vitriol, the other two never once showed up. That's just my two cents. I guess that means now I'm Fubah too.
It doesn't mean you're him. You keep using a straw man argument. In this case, and in this case only, these three are the same. In fact there was a fourth that was vanished because covers determined it was the same. Is covers wrong? Is it impossible to think that a guy who has proven to make two names, has four names?
Come on we've already talked enough about this. Just drop it and move on. Get a life
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@vanzack I think I have yet to EVER click someone's name to check their past posts so no, I won't be doing my due diligence. I don't care. I just had some ridiculously long and unnecessarily nasty arguments that involved Fubah in the past. Arguments across multiple threads. As I stated, we have a very contentious past. We've moved past that now but I'd find it hard to believe that if al three are one in the same,that the other two never,in all those countless threads containing countless pages of vitriol, the other two never once showed up. That's just my two cents. I guess that means now I'm Fubah too.
It doesn't mean you're him. You keep using a straw man argument. In this case, and in this case only, these three are the same. In fact there was a fourth that was vanished because covers determined it was the same. Is covers wrong? Is it impossible to think that a guy who has proven to make two names, has four names?
Come on we've already talked enough about this. Just drop it and move on. Get a life
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MODS know.....they don't ban a long time user without any good reason.... this isn't pre-Elon twitter The DU situation was completely different that this one...
Let's get a couple more things straight. For one, nothing is obvious. By your own logic, everyone here is just words on page. Playing internet sleuth, "Look at his posting style..." and using words like, "obvious", saying things like, "let's accept that as fact" is completely asinine. Second, I said this site had collective little dick energy, which means I'm not talking about one guy, I'm talking about all of the guys. I guess myself included by proxy. I think there are a lot of guys here looking for attention and chasing clout. Social media has become where people go for validation. This site is no different.
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@vanzack
Let's get a couple more things straight. For one, nothing is obvious. By your own logic, everyone here is just words on page. Playing internet sleuth, "Look at his posting style..." and using words like, "obvious", saying things like, "let's accept that as fact" is completely asinine. Second, I said this site had collective little dick energy, which means I'm not talking about one guy, I'm talking about all of the guys. I guess myself included by proxy. I think there are a lot of guys here looking for attention and chasing clout. Social media has become where people go for validation. This site is no different.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @vanzack I think I have yet to EVER click someone's name to check their past posts so no, I won't be doing my due diligence. I don't care. I just had some ridiculously long and unnecessarily nasty arguments that involved Fubah in the past. Arguments across multiple threads. As I stated, we have a very contentious past. We've moved past that now but I'd find it hard to believe that if al three are one in the same,that the other two never,in all those countless threads containing countless pages of vitriol, the other two never once showed up. That's just my two cents. I guess that means now I'm Fubah too. It doesn't mean you're him. You keep using a straw man argument. In this case, and in this case only, these three are the same. In fact there was a fourth that was vanished because covers determined it was the same. Is covers wrong? Is it impossible to think that a guy who has proven to make two names, has four names? Come on we've already talked enough about this. Just drop it and move on. Get a life
So they banned one alias but not all? The same guy that is telling me I should be clicking the names of anonymous strangers on a website to read their past posts for evidence that they are in fact one and the same is now telling me to get a life? Okay.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @vanzack I think I have yet to EVER click someone's name to check their past posts so no, I won't be doing my due diligence. I don't care. I just had some ridiculously long and unnecessarily nasty arguments that involved Fubah in the past. Arguments across multiple threads. As I stated, we have a very contentious past. We've moved past that now but I'd find it hard to believe that if al three are one in the same,that the other two never,in all those countless threads containing countless pages of vitriol, the other two never once showed up. That's just my two cents. I guess that means now I'm Fubah too. It doesn't mean you're him. You keep using a straw man argument. In this case, and in this case only, these three are the same. In fact there was a fourth that was vanished because covers determined it was the same. Is covers wrong? Is it impossible to think that a guy who has proven to make two names, has four names? Come on we've already talked enough about this. Just drop it and move on. Get a life
So they banned one alias but not all? The same guy that is telling me I should be clicking the names of anonymous strangers on a website to read their past posts for evidence that they are in fact one and the same is now telling me to get a life? Okay.
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Let's agree to disagree and move on. I have games to cap and lines to look at. Thanks for your opinion. Agreed. And to be clear, there was never any beef between us before and I would hope to think that there isn't any now. BOL.
Not at all.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Let's agree to disagree and move on. I have games to cap and lines to look at. Thanks for your opinion. Agreed. And to be clear, there was never any beef between us before and I would hope to think that there isn't any now. BOL.
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