Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Biden administration cancels another $3.9 billion in student loan debt for former for-profit college students ...bringing the total amount of loan discharges approved under President Joe Biden to nearly $32 billion. Biden is expected to announce by the end of August whether he will more broadly cancel student loan debt for the 43 million federal student loan borrowers.Biden has suggested he would support wiping away $10,000 per borrower, in line with a pledge he made on the campaign trail in 2020. Howmuch did trump help students with their loan debts? While this story pertains particularly to an institutio that was seeming defrfauding their students, the fact that Biden is helping those and Trump did not is significant.
Of course. Trump made decisions benefitting far fewer people. For Biden admin this is a good start. More help being contemplated and if any is ultimately forthcoming it will be far and away more than any president in recent memory, especially Trump.
I applaud the effort. So much more than Trump ever did.
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Biden administration cancels another $3.9 billion in student loan debt for former for-profit college students ...bringing the total amount of loan discharges approved under President Joe Biden to nearly $32 billion. Biden is expected to announce by the end of August whether he will more broadly cancel student loan debt for the 43 million federal student loan borrowers.Biden has suggested he would support wiping away $10,000 per borrower, in line with a pledge he made on the campaign trail in 2020. Howmuch did trump help students with their loan debts? While this story pertains particularly to an institutio that was seeming defrfauding their students, the fact that Biden is helping those and Trump did not is significant.
Of course. Trump made decisions benefitting far fewer people. For Biden admin this is a good start. More help being contemplated and if any is ultimately forthcoming it will be far and away more than any president in recent memory, especially Trump.
I applaud the effort. So much more than Trump ever did.
My Senator, Rick Scott, is spending his congressional recess on a luxury yacht in Italy after criticizing President Biden for vacationing… in Delaware.
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My Senator, Rick Scott, is spending his congressional recess on a luxury yacht in Italy after criticizing President Biden for vacationing… in Delaware.
My Senator, Rick Scott, is spending his congressional recess on a luxury yacht in Italy after criticizing President Biden for vacationing… in Delaware.
Dementia Joe has spent more time way from DC than in it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
My Senator, Rick Scott, is spending his congressional recess on a luxury yacht in Italy after criticizing President Biden for vacationing… in Delaware.
Dementia Joe has spent more time way from DC than in it.
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Gas now averaging under $3.89 nationwideStill $2.10 more a gallon here than it was when Dementia Joe took office.
Great comparison! Why don't you pick a time when the world wasn't shut down?
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Gas now averaging under $3.89 nationwideStill $2.10 more a gallon here than it was when Dementia Joe took office.
Great comparison! Why don't you pick a time when the world wasn't shut down?
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Nancy Pelosi and the HOUSE passed the first of two bills aimed at providing $28 million to address baby forumla shortage. Will the trump-republicans block them in the Senate when the bills arrive? Republicans voted against it! The real reason why the Republicans opposed this bill is that the Dems snuck in a raise for the idiots at the FDA — the numbskulls who created this entire mess in the first place. https://www.rightjournalism.com/heres-the-real-reason-why-192-rs-voted-against-dems-baby-formula-package/
All the time.
Govt invents a problem. Keeps the public begging ,at it's knees, to get govt to solve the problem.
Then govt acts like it just came up with a solution that they already knew they would do, when they invented the problem.
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Nancy Pelosi and the HOUSE passed the first of two bills aimed at providing $28 million to address baby forumla shortage. Will the trump-republicans block them in the Senate when the bills arrive? Republicans voted against it! The real reason why the Republicans opposed this bill is that the Dems snuck in a raise for the idiots at the FDA — the numbskulls who created this entire mess in the first place. https://www.rightjournalism.com/heres-the-real-reason-why-192-rs-voted-against-dems-baby-formula-package/
All the time.
Govt invents a problem. Keeps the public begging ,at it's knees, to get govt to solve the problem.
Then govt acts like it just came up with a solution that they already knew they would do, when they invented the problem.
I don't understand how GOP members can knock Joe for helping students when they have been sucking off the government teat. For example...
As a blue-collar kid who worked his way through college, I know firsthand the sacrifices people make to receive an education. Biden’s reckless, unilateral student loan giveaway is unfair to the 87 percent of Americans without student loan debt and those who played by the rules. Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Congressman Vern Buchanan had over $2.3 million in PPP loans forgiven.
Asking plumbers and carpenters to pay off the loans of Wall Street advisors and lawyers isn’t just unfair. It’s also bad policy. Mike Kelly (R-PA)
Congressman Mike Kelly had $987,237 in PPP loans forgiven.
We do not need farmers and ranchers, small business owners, and teachers in Oklahoma paying the debts of Ivy League lawyers and doctors across the U.S. This places undue burden on those already suffering due to the weight of Biden’s failed economic policy. (R-OK)
Congressman Markwayne Mullin had over $1.4 million in PPP loans forgiven.
To recap, in the last two weeks, the "Party of the People" has supercharged the IRS to go after working-class Americans, raised their taxes, and forced them to pay for other people's college degrees. (R-OK)
Congressman Kevin Hern had over $1 million in PPP loans forgiven.
There are others but you get my point. Politicians never when to just shut up!
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I don't understand how GOP members can knock Joe for helping students when they have been sucking off the government teat. For example...
As a blue-collar kid who worked his way through college, I know firsthand the sacrifices people make to receive an education. Biden’s reckless, unilateral student loan giveaway is unfair to the 87 percent of Americans without student loan debt and those who played by the rules. Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Congressman Vern Buchanan had over $2.3 million in PPP loans forgiven.
Asking plumbers and carpenters to pay off the loans of Wall Street advisors and lawyers isn’t just unfair. It’s also bad policy. Mike Kelly (R-PA)
Congressman Mike Kelly had $987,237 in PPP loans forgiven.
We do not need farmers and ranchers, small business owners, and teachers in Oklahoma paying the debts of Ivy League lawyers and doctors across the U.S. This places undue burden on those already suffering due to the weight of Biden’s failed economic policy. (R-OK)
Congressman Markwayne Mullin had over $1.4 million in PPP loans forgiven.
To recap, in the last two weeks, the "Party of the People" has supercharged the IRS to go after working-class Americans, raised their taxes, and forced them to pay for other people's college degrees. (R-OK)
Congressman Kevin Hern had over $1 million in PPP loans forgiven.
There are others but you get my point. Politicians never when to just shut up!
All the time. Govt invents a problem. Keeps the public begging ,at it's knees, to get govt to solve the problem. Then govt acts like it just came up with a solution that they already knew they would do, when they invented the problem.
Shortage of baby formula provoked misleading conspiracy theories that suggest government is responsible for bare shelves. But the shortage is caused by contamination that forced plant shutdown by major manufacturer and ongoing supply chain problems due to the pandemic. Not just any company can produce baby formula because Food drug administration regulations must protect baby consumers.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
All the time. Govt invents a problem. Keeps the public begging ,at it's knees, to get govt to solve the problem. Then govt acts like it just came up with a solution that they already knew they would do, when they invented the problem.
Shortage of baby formula provoked misleading conspiracy theories that suggest government is responsible for bare shelves. But the shortage is caused by contamination that forced plant shutdown by major manufacturer and ongoing supply chain problems due to the pandemic. Not just any company can produce baby formula because Food drug administration regulations must protect baby consumers.
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: All the time. Govt invents a problem. Keeps the public begging ,at it's knees, to get govt to solve the problem. Then govt acts like it just came up with a solution that they already knew they would do, when they invented the problem.
Shortage of baby formula provoked misleading conspiracy theories that suggest government is responsible for bare shelves.
But the shortage is caused by contamination that forced plant shutdown by major manufacturer and ongoing supply chain problems due to the pandemic. Not just any company can produce baby formula because Food drug administration regulations must protect baby consumers.
Naturally the less intelligent MAGAcult at the time came out in full force casting full blame on the contamination which caused the problem at all Democrats on every level of government.
Some MAGAcult still do that...
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: All the time. Govt invents a problem. Keeps the public begging ,at it's knees, to get govt to solve the problem. Then govt acts like it just came up with a solution that they already knew they would do, when they invented the problem.
Shortage of baby formula provoked misleading conspiracy theories that suggest government is responsible for bare shelves.
But the shortage is caused by contamination that forced plant shutdown by major manufacturer and ongoing supply chain problems due to the pandemic. Not just any company can produce baby formula because Food drug administration regulations must protect baby consumers.
Naturally the less intelligent MAGAcult at the time came out in full force casting full blame on the contamination which caused the problem at all Democrats on every level of government.
I don't understand how GOP members can knock Joe for helping students when they have been sucking off the government.!
Why not help students since government bailout industries and the rich? For many jobs, post-secondary education or certification is a necessity. But education is a risky investment as not everyone can profit. According to federal reserve, the least wealthy 25% of US population is the most likely to have outstanding student debt. Debt forgiveness won't affect inflation much because benefits are spread over years and debt payments can still continue. Polls show debt forgiveness is popular among most Americans.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
I don't understand how GOP members can knock Joe for helping students when they have been sucking off the government.!
Why not help students since government bailout industries and the rich? For many jobs, post-secondary education or certification is a necessity. But education is a risky investment as not everyone can profit. According to federal reserve, the least wealthy 25% of US population is the most likely to have outstanding student debt. Debt forgiveness won't affect inflation much because benefits are spread over years and debt payments can still continue. Polls show debt forgiveness is popular among most Americans.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: I don't understand how GOP members can knock Joe for helping students when they have been sucking off the government.! Why not help students since government bailout industries and the rich? For many jobs, post-secondary education or certification is a necessity. But education is a risky investment as not everyone can profit. According to federal reserve, the least wealthy 25% of US population is the most likely to have outstanding student debt. Debt forgiveness won't affect inflation much because benefits are spread over years and debt payments can still continue. Polls show debt forgiveness is popular among most Americans.
If third were a real person (he's a leftist bot) he/she/they would see all the comments on public forums that overwhelmingly (over 95% of comments) DO NOT SUPPORT debt forgiveness.
How is this poster still allowed to post on this site when others have been banned? Third brings nothing but miss information. Most likely is an AI leftist bot. All his/her/their posts are utter non sense trying to spin the truth.
Hey third, if you're a real person and you're in a public forum, can you answer a question?
What should students that have paid their loans back receive? A tax break for 10k? What about students that opted NOT to take on debt for higher education? Should they be qualified in positions that require higher education for employment? What about people that went to trade school? Should they get a 10k cash credit for their tools that they are required to pay to help with their career? Higher education costs = tools for trade school students. 100% sure you will NOT answer any of these questions as a real person.
Mods, please ban Third from these forums. 0% of their comments are a natural response and this poster is doing NOTHING for this site.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: I don't understand how GOP members can knock Joe for helping students when they have been sucking off the government.! Why not help students since government bailout industries and the rich? For many jobs, post-secondary education or certification is a necessity. But education is a risky investment as not everyone can profit. According to federal reserve, the least wealthy 25% of US population is the most likely to have outstanding student debt. Debt forgiveness won't affect inflation much because benefits are spread over years and debt payments can still continue. Polls show debt forgiveness is popular among most Americans.
If third were a real person (he's a leftist bot) he/she/they would see all the comments on public forums that overwhelmingly (over 95% of comments) DO NOT SUPPORT debt forgiveness.
How is this poster still allowed to post on this site when others have been banned? Third brings nothing but miss information. Most likely is an AI leftist bot. All his/her/their posts are utter non sense trying to spin the truth.
Hey third, if you're a real person and you're in a public forum, can you answer a question?
What should students that have paid their loans back receive? A tax break for 10k? What about students that opted NOT to take on debt for higher education? Should they be qualified in positions that require higher education for employment? What about people that went to trade school? Should they get a 10k cash credit for their tools that they are required to pay to help with their career? Higher education costs = tools for trade school students. 100% sure you will NOT answer any of these questions as a real person.
Mods, please ban Third from these forums. 0% of their comments are a natural response and this poster is doing NOTHING for this site.
If third were a real person (he's a leftist bot) he/she/they would see all the comments on public forums that overwhelmingly (over 95% of comments) DO NOT SUPPORT debt forgiveness.
That comment is bullshit. No way 95% is a valid %.
Anywhere you look, it's pretty much split down the middle or 55% one way or the other.
What most Americans agree upon is bringing down the cost of higher education.
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@BigGame90
If third were a real person (he's a leftist bot) he/she/they would see all the comments on public forums that overwhelmingly (over 95% of comments) DO NOT SUPPORT debt forgiveness.
That comment is bullshit. No way 95% is a valid %.
Anywhere you look, it's pretty much split down the middle or 55% one way or the other.
What most Americans agree upon is bringing down the cost of higher education.
@BigGame90 If third were a real person (he's a leftist bot) he/she/they would see all the comments on public forums that overwhelmingly (over 95% of comments) DO NOT SUPPORT debt forgiveness. That comment is bullshit. No way 95% is a valid %. Anywhere you look, it's pretty much split down the middle or 55% one way or the other. What most Americans agree upon is bringing down the cost of higher education.
Ha. Go read any public forum and look at the up votes compared to downvotes and the comments. Very overwhelimg that practically ALL the comments do NOT agree with student debt forgiveness. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise. The only people in favor of this are the students that took out loans for a shit degree from a shit school. They are also the ones who never read the loan terms. Or people who think there is literally free money floating around. This isn't fantasy land we're living in.
Everyone should be on agreement that the cost of education is too high. But that falls back on federally backed loans provided by the govt. So the fed govt could easily be the reason why the cost of education is soaring and colleges are milking the loans and students are not doing their due diligence before taking money. What message is being sent to future students when the govt "forgives" current debts? Just keep taking these ridiculous loans for a liberal arts degree that pays 1/10 of the loan a year. Keep racking up interest so the repayment takes 25 years.
IMO the interest shouldn't be nearly as high (maybe instead of forgiveness, the pause interest so borrowers can pay down their principle. Just my opinion). Repayment applies 6 months after graduation. Does every college grad find employment within 6 months of graduating? Most likely not. So they're just incurring interest while paying the min payments.
If the govt is going to back education, why the hell would any college lower prices? Keep living in fantasy land. Read up on SLABS. Student Loan Asset Backed Securities. There is a reason why these loans are not forgiven in bankruptcy. Spend a few hours reading up and you'll see why forgiving these debts is a terrible idea. Money borrowed with the promise to pay back is then reloaned and then reloaned and the snowball has been built to the point that it's too big to fail and that's why we're in this current mess. Remember the housing market in 08? Same shit, only the debts will never go away and that future promise to repay has been lent out again.
This admin is just trying to buy votes at the tax payers expense. It's absolutely ludicrous and anyone who supports this has no clue of the consequences that will follow.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@BigGame90 If third were a real person (he's a leftist bot) he/she/they would see all the comments on public forums that overwhelmingly (over 95% of comments) DO NOT SUPPORT debt forgiveness. That comment is bullshit. No way 95% is a valid %. Anywhere you look, it's pretty much split down the middle or 55% one way or the other. What most Americans agree upon is bringing down the cost of higher education.
Ha. Go read any public forum and look at the up votes compared to downvotes and the comments. Very overwhelimg that practically ALL the comments do NOT agree with student debt forgiveness. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise. The only people in favor of this are the students that took out loans for a shit degree from a shit school. They are also the ones who never read the loan terms. Or people who think there is literally free money floating around. This isn't fantasy land we're living in.
Everyone should be on agreement that the cost of education is too high. But that falls back on federally backed loans provided by the govt. So the fed govt could easily be the reason why the cost of education is soaring and colleges are milking the loans and students are not doing their due diligence before taking money. What message is being sent to future students when the govt "forgives" current debts? Just keep taking these ridiculous loans for a liberal arts degree that pays 1/10 of the loan a year. Keep racking up interest so the repayment takes 25 years.
IMO the interest shouldn't be nearly as high (maybe instead of forgiveness, the pause interest so borrowers can pay down their principle. Just my opinion). Repayment applies 6 months after graduation. Does every college grad find employment within 6 months of graduating? Most likely not. So they're just incurring interest while paying the min payments.
If the govt is going to back education, why the hell would any college lower prices? Keep living in fantasy land. Read up on SLABS. Student Loan Asset Backed Securities. There is a reason why these loans are not forgiven in bankruptcy. Spend a few hours reading up and you'll see why forgiving these debts is a terrible idea. Money borrowed with the promise to pay back is then reloaned and then reloaned and the snowball has been built to the point that it's too big to fail and that's why we're in this current mess. Remember the housing market in 08? Same shit, only the debts will never go away and that future promise to repay has been lent out again.
This admin is just trying to buy votes at the tax payers expense. It's absolutely ludicrous and anyone who supports this has no clue of the consequences that will follow.
People that took out loans, parents who worked 2 jobs, students who worked to pay for their education should be reimbursed as well. This participation trophy believe is only make our weak kids even weaker. Thus group knows only immediate gratification. Me first mentality, they have no idea about hard work and the value of money.
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People that took out loans, parents who worked 2 jobs, students who worked to pay for their education should be reimbursed as well. This participation trophy believe is only make our weak kids even weaker. Thus group knows only immediate gratification. Me first mentality, they have no idea about hard work and the value of money.
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