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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2021 - 10:03 PM ET #2726

    The bottom line is this: While being fully vaccinated protects against serious illness and hospitalization from Covid-19, no vaccine offers 100 percent protection. As long as large numbers of people remain unvaccinated and continue to spread coronavirus, vaccinated people will be exposed to the Delta variant, and a small percentage of them will develop so-called breakthrough infections.  - NY Times, from today. 

     

    Here is an example of MSM and the BS they spew. This is a hit piece on unvaxed people. Anyone can still spread the virus so what this author says is not the bottom line but trying to create fear. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread, it might limit the spread just like fighting off the virus might limit the chances of someone getting covid for a 2nd time. So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it. Most people are trying to fight it and the media scaring people is not helping, it's dividing. Example is this clip from an article above.

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    The bottom line is this: While being fully vaccinated protects against serious illness and hospitalization from Covid-19, no vaccine offers 100 percent protection. As long as large numbers of people remain unvaccinated and continue to spread coronavirus, vaccinated people will be exposed to the Delta variant, and a small percentage of them will develop so-called breakthrough infections.  - NY Times, from today. 

     

    Here is an example of MSM and the BS they spew. This is a hit piece on unvaxed people. Anyone can still spread the virus so what this author says is not the bottom line but trying to create fear. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread, it might limit the spread just like fighting off the virus might limit the chances of someone getting covid for a 2nd time. So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it. Most people are trying to fight it and the media scaring people is not helping, it's dividing. Example is this clip from an article above.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2021 - 10:13 PM ET #2727

     

    @StumpTownStu

    I have nothing to prove to you. You can take my word for it or not. I don't have to prove anything to you. As I sit here looking out my window an electric car just drove by and the driver had a mask on. Could have been Uber/Lyft, could not have been. If I could post a photo on here, I would. Maybe I'll make a youtube video. I have tons of footage of the idiot drivers as well. Running red lights while stopped, passing on one lane roads, 2 separate accidents within 8 car lengths (caught the 2nd hit on the camera) then a car running a red light almost immediately after the 2nd accident. Shit you not. I drive quite a bit so there's lots of chances to see wild shit.  Maybe I'll figure out how to clip videos and make a complication. I just got a video of 2 cars passing on a one lane road with tires screeching 45 min ago.

     

    I agree with the libs not listening to regulations so that was an assumption on my side and that's not right. I was playing the odds there. But would you agree more liberals drive a Prius? Or is that a wrong assumption? 

     

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    I have nothing to prove to you. You can take my word for it or not. I don't have to prove anything to you. As I sit here looking out my window an electric car just drove by and the driver had a mask on. Could have been Uber/Lyft, could not have been. If I could post a photo on here, I would. Maybe I'll make a youtube video. I have tons of footage of the idiot drivers as well. Running red lights while stopped, passing on one lane roads, 2 separate accidents within 8 car lengths (caught the 2nd hit on the camera) then a car running a red light almost immediately after the 2nd accident. Shit you not. I drive quite a bit so there's lots of chances to see wild shit.  Maybe I'll figure out how to clip videos and make a complication. I just got a video of 2 cars passing on a one lane road with tires screeching 45 min ago.

     

    I agree with the libs not listening to regulations so that was an assumption on my side and that's not right. I was playing the odds there. But would you agree more liberals drive a Prius? Or is that a wrong assumption? 

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2021 - 10:21 PM ET #2728

    @BigGame90

     The media is a business. They sell a product. That product is fear and/or rage. This is equally true of left leaning media AND right leaning media. Ignore it. Make your own choices and own them. Just don't spread bullshit narratives to bolster bullshit points. "Everywhere I look people are in their own cars with two masks on." Okay, where? "Well actually they are on the streets with masks on." Okay, where. Like I said, I know that state like the back of my hand. All the back roads. All the little pockets. I just drove it end to end and back up. Where? Put up or shut up. You're full of shit.

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    @BigGame90

     The media is a business. They sell a product. That product is fear and/or rage. This is equally true of left leaning media AND right leaning media. Ignore it. Make your own choices and own them. Just don't spread bullshit narratives to bolster bullshit points. "Everywhere I look people are in their own cars with two masks on." Okay, where? "Well actually they are on the streets with masks on." Okay, where. Like I said, I know that state like the back of my hand. All the back roads. All the little pockets. I just drove it end to end and back up. Where? Put up or shut up. You're full of shit.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2021 - 10:25 PM ET #2729

    @BigGame90

     Of course more liberals drive those fuckers but you can't judge all liberals by prius drivers. Most liberals hate Prius drivers as much as everyone else. And for the record, i'm not a liberal nor am I defending liberals. Just calling bullshit when I see it.

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     Of course more liberals drive those fuckers but you can't judge all liberals by prius drivers. Most liberals hate Prius drivers as much as everyone else. And for the record, i'm not a liberal nor am I defending liberals. Just calling bullshit when I see it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 12:44 AM ET #2730

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @BigGame90  I don't know where you live but even in crazy SFLA I've never seen anyone driving with a mask & gloves. If people feel safe wearing a mask outside why get your panties in a bunch? I'm more upset with people unmasked & unvaccinated walking among us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @BigGame90  I don't know where you live but even in crazy SFLA I've never seen anyone driving with a mask & gloves. If people feel safe wearing a mask outside why get your panties in a bunch? I'm more upset with people unmasked & unvaccinated walking among us.

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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 9:39 AM ET #2731

    I live in rural america out in the sticks. When I go to nearest town that has walmart, box stores, etc. I always see, mostly women in their 20's to 40's, driving in a vehicle alone with a mask on. See it everytime so there's plenty of them. And I only spend about two hours in town. Our county 7-day avg hoovers between 0-2 cases a day. That's their choice. Just have to think it's more a political statement of obedience than anything else. Maybe paranoia. Looks stupid!!! 

    Then I see a lifted 4wd pickup with a giant F-Biden and anyone who voted for him flag flying in back. Looks hillbilly stupid!!! That's their choice.

     

    Did anyone watch Biden's townhall on CNN night before last?? Prob not, only 1.5 mil viewers tuned in. Here's a Biden quote;

    "The various shots that people are getting now cover that you're OK, you're not going to, you're not going to, get COVID if you have these vaccinations." 

    Besides all the Texas vaccinated dems and Pelosi's vaccinated staff who are now infected the national anthem singer for the Tampa Bay Lightening, Sonya Bryson-Kirksey, was vaccinated in March and is now in the hospital fighting off COVID. My prayers are with her. She has an underlying condition, multiple sclerosis.

    Yeah, Joe, keep fighting at that "MISINFORMATION" OUT THERE!!  an_eek2

    What else did he say? OMG!! How about this one;

    BIDEN; "Just like the other question, there’s a logical — and I’ve heard you speak about it because you always — I’m not being solicitous, but you — you’re always straight up about what you’re doing. 
     
    And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are — why can’t the — the — the experts say, “We know that this virus is, in fact — it’s going to be…” — or, excuse me — “We know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved.”  That’s underway too.  I expect that to occur quickly."
     
    MR. LEMON:  Well, that means — you mean for the FDA? 
     
    THE PRESIDENT:  For the FDA.
     
    MR. LEMON:  Yeah.  So, what do you —
     
    THE PRESIDENT:  The Federal Drug Administration. (proudly proclaims like he suddenly remembered an_eek2)

     

     

     

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    I live in rural america out in the sticks. When I go to nearest town that has walmart, box stores, etc. I always see, mostly women in their 20's to 40's, driving in a vehicle alone with a mask on. See it everytime so there's plenty of them. And I only spend about two hours in town. Our county 7-day avg hoovers between 0-2 cases a day. That's their choice. Just have to think it's more a political statement of obedience than anything else. Maybe paranoia. Looks stupid!!! 

    Then I see a lifted 4wd pickup with a giant F-Biden and anyone who voted for him flag flying in back. Looks hillbilly stupid!!! That's their choice.

     

    Did anyone watch Biden's townhall on CNN night before last?? Prob not, only 1.5 mil viewers tuned in. Here's a Biden quote;

    "The various shots that people are getting now cover that you're OK, you're not going to, you're not going to, get COVID if you have these vaccinations." 

    Besides all the Texas vaccinated dems and Pelosi's vaccinated staff who are now infected the national anthem singer for the Tampa Bay Lightening, Sonya Bryson-Kirksey, was vaccinated in March and is now in the hospital fighting off COVID. My prayers are with her. She has an underlying condition, multiple sclerosis.

    Yeah, Joe, keep fighting at that "MISINFORMATION" OUT THERE!!  an_eek2

    What else did he say? OMG!! How about this one;

    BIDEN; "Just like the other question, there’s a logical — and I’ve heard you speak about it because you always — I’m not being solicitous, but you — you’re always straight up about what you’re doing. 
     
    And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are — why can’t the — the — the experts say, “We know that this virus is, in fact — it’s going to be…” — or, excuse me — “We know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved.”  That’s underway too.  I expect that to occur quickly."
     
    MR. LEMON:  Well, that means — you mean for the FDA? 
     
    THE PRESIDENT:  For the FDA.
     
    MR. LEMON:  Yeah.  So, what do you —
     
    THE PRESIDENT:  The Federal Drug Administration. (proudly proclaims like he suddenly remembered an_eek2)

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 10:50 AM ET #2732

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Anyone can still spread the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.  So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it.

    Most virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people.  Public health England study found vaccination reduces virus transmission by 40-50%.  Healthy people can still be hospitalized by covid infections.   Healthline and Medicinenet say no scientific research supports the use of immunity boosting supplements to protect against coronavirus. But 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations come from unvaccinated population.

    Full approval from Food drug administration isn't necessary to prove covid vaccines are safe and effective because of proof from millions of vaccinations worldwide.  Fauci predicts FDA would eventually grant full approval for vaccines.  According to Baylor college, latest rise in covid hospitalizations is a self-inflicted wound because 99% of hospitalizations are preventable.  Fortunately, US won't go back to the worse of pandemic because of vaccines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Anyone can still spread the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.  So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it.

    Most virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people.  Public health England study found vaccination reduces virus transmission by 40-50%.  Healthy people can still be hospitalized by covid infections.   Healthline and Medicinenet say no scientific research supports the use of immunity boosting supplements to protect against coronavirus. But 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations come from unvaccinated population.

    Full approval from Food drug administration isn't necessary to prove covid vaccines are safe and effective because of proof from millions of vaccinations worldwide.  Fauci predicts FDA would eventually grant full approval for vaccines.  According to Baylor college, latest rise in covid hospitalizations is a self-inflicted wound because 99% of hospitalizations are preventable.  Fortunately, US won't go back to the worse of pandemic because of vaccines.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Anyone can still spread the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.  So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it.

     

    Most virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people.  Public health England study found vaccination reduces virus transmission by 40-50%.  Healthy people can still be hospitalized by covid infections.   Healthline and Medicinenet say no scientific research supports the use of immunity boosting supplements to protect against coronavirus. But 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations come from unvaccinated population.

    Unfortunate but true.

    Thanks to trump allowing such deep penetration into our country, this pandemic could be with us for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Anyone can still spread the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.  So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it.

     

    Most virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people.  Public health England study found vaccination reduces virus transmission by 40-50%.  Healthy people can still be hospitalized by covid infections.   Healthline and Medicinenet say no scientific research supports the use of immunity boosting supplements to protect against coronavirus. But 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations come from unvaccinated population.

    Unfortunate but true.

    Thanks to trump allowing such deep penetration into our country, this pandemic could be with us for years

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 11:26 AM ET #2734

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Anyone can still spread the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.  So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it. Most virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people.  Public health England study found vaccination reduces virus transmission by 40-50%.  Healthy people can still be hospitalized by covid infections.   Healthline and Medicinenet say no scientific research supports the use of immunity boosting supplements to protect against coronavirus. But 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations come from unvaccinated population. Full approval from Food drug administration isn't necessary to prove covid vaccines are safe and effective because of proof from millions of vaccinations worldwide.  Fauci predicts FDA would eventually grant full approval for vaccines.  According to Baylor college, latest rise in covid hospitalizations is a self-inflicted wound because 99% of hospitalizations are preventable.  Fortunately, US won't go back to the worse of pandemic because of vaccines.

     

    You can't play god like some democratic and liberals think they can.

    Show official stats on 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations from from unvaccinated population. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data. You can't pick and choose when to use official stats and what you hear from MSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Anyone can still spread the virus. The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.  So while some people are trying to help fight covid with the vaccine, maybe some people are fighting it by building a strong immune system by staying as healthy as they can without having to put a relativity new substance in their body. A substance that doesn't have long term studies for it. Most virus transmissions come from unvaccinated people.  Public health England study found vaccination reduces virus transmission by 40-50%.  Healthy people can still be hospitalized by covid infections.   Healthline and Medicinenet say no scientific research supports the use of immunity boosting supplements to protect against coronavirus. But 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations come from unvaccinated population. Full approval from Food drug administration isn't necessary to prove covid vaccines are safe and effective because of proof from millions of vaccinations worldwide.  Fauci predicts FDA would eventually grant full approval for vaccines.  According to Baylor college, latest rise in covid hospitalizations is a self-inflicted wound because 99% of hospitalizations are preventable.  Fortunately, US won't go back to the worse of pandemic because of vaccines.

     

    You can't play god like some democratic and liberals think they can.

    Show official stats on 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations from from unvaccinated population. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data. You can't pick and choose when to use official stats and what you hear from MSM.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 11:28 AM ET #2735

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     Why don't you thank the origination of the virus. Did Trump create the virus? THE VIRUS IS ALL OVER THE WORLD! an_light

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     Why don't you thank the origination of the virus. Did Trump create the virus? THE VIRUS IS ALL OVER THE WORLD! an_light

     
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    My partner is in her residency at a small hospital in Maryland.  She had two people die last night of Covid. We were visiting her family in NYC. Last night was her first night back after almost a week. The hospital said a month ago they would not open another Covid ward but the overflow from the DC and other MD hospitals were maxed out in their Covid wards so they HAD to open a Covid ward or people would die. Any hospital Doc will tell you cases are exploding and people just think it is over. With the Delta variant young people are needing oxygen. 100% of their patients are not vaccinated.  Stupidity will have us bavk in lockdown and idiots that didn't get the vaccine are fucking over this country and the world. Both patients that died werd under 50 with no preexisting conditions besides not living a healthy lifestyle and being boozers. Dumb fucks get the vaccine.  We will hit high case rates and deaths in October just like last year. This isn't going away for years but if the right variant mutates in the body of some anti vax dope and the virus starts to hit young people well the dumbfucks will have created a perfect virus because it has had so much time to find the right combination fueled by stupid fuckheads that live in a fucking fantasy world. And why the hate for Prius cars? Dumbfucks all cars are going to be electric besides the prople too poor to buy one. You a bunch of right wing Q stupid jackasses living in a fantasy world. I am looking at the new electric Mustang.  Have a Dodge Challenger that just sits most of the time. It was supposed to be a fun "muscle" car with a aftermarket ragtop. It is on the sales block. If you have ever driven an e car you know the speed and lower make gas fueled cars feel like turtles.  To hate a Prius and the people who drive them makes you a dumbass uninformed POS.goodpost

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    My partner is in her residency at a small hospital in Maryland.  She had two people die last night of Covid. We were visiting her family in NYC. Last night was her first night back after almost a week. The hospital said a month ago they would not open another Covid ward but the overflow from the DC and other MD hospitals were maxed out in their Covid wards so they HAD to open a Covid ward or people would die. Any hospital Doc will tell you cases are exploding and people just think it is over. With the Delta variant young people are needing oxygen. 100% of their patients are not vaccinated.  Stupidity will have us bavk in lockdown and idiots that didn't get the vaccine are fucking over this country and the world. Both patients that died werd under 50 with no preexisting conditions besides not living a healthy lifestyle and being boozers. Dumb fucks get the vaccine.  We will hit high case rates and deaths in October just like last year. This isn't going away for years but if the right variant mutates in the body of some anti vax dope and the virus starts to hit young people well the dumbfucks will have created a perfect virus because it has had so much time to find the right combination fueled by stupid fuckheads that live in a fucking fantasy world. And why the hate for Prius cars? Dumbfucks all cars are going to be electric besides the prople too poor to buy one. You a bunch of right wing Q stupid jackasses living in a fantasy world. I am looking at the new electric Mustang.  Have a Dodge Challenger that just sits most of the time. It was supposed to be a fun "muscle" car with a aftermarket ragtop. It is on the sales block. If you have ever driven an e car you know the speed and lower make gas fueled cars feel like turtles.  To hate a Prius and the people who drive them makes you a dumbass uninformed POS.goodpost

     
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    I say let the unvacinated die! They have had a half a year to get a free shot that takes 20 seconds at their supermarket.  Fuck them! The deserve to die. I have zero sympathy for them. They are costing the healthcare system so much money most are uneducated and in the lower economic groups.  Let them die in the streets because the "cure" has been available for free for over half a year. Medical professionals shouldn't have to be at risk for these morons of society who wear their stupidity on their sleeves then are all BOO HOO when they can't breathe fuck you and fuck them. We don't need no oxygen let the motherfuckers die!! So many millions from poor countries would get the vaccine shots but American idiots in the dopey states think their freedom is being taken away by getting the vaccine thejester Jackasses. Indonesia has basically the same population as the USA but are healthier not a country loaded with fat unhealthy fucks that eat shit good and their exercise is walking to and from their cars. By October the USA will be back on both knees again, all because of low IQ morons. Let them gasp for their last breath and die instead of spending $100,000 in medical costs to keep their pig brains alive. Turn off the oxygen and let them die , suffocating and they can live in infinite freedom 6 feet underan_dance

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    I say let the unvacinated die! They have had a half a year to get a free shot that takes 20 seconds at their supermarket.  Fuck them! The deserve to die. I have zero sympathy for them. They are costing the healthcare system so much money most are uneducated and in the lower economic groups.  Let them die in the streets because the "cure" has been available for free for over half a year. Medical professionals shouldn't have to be at risk for these morons of society who wear their stupidity on their sleeves then are all BOO HOO when they can't breathe fuck you and fuck them. We don't need no oxygen let the motherfuckers die!! So many millions from poor countries would get the vaccine shots but American idiots in the dopey states think their freedom is being taken away by getting the vaccine thejester Jackasses. Indonesia has basically the same population as the USA but are healthier not a country loaded with fat unhealthy fucks that eat shit good and their exercise is walking to and from their cars. By October the USA will be back on both knees again, all because of low IQ morons. Let them gasp for their last breath and die instead of spending $100,000 in medical costs to keep their pig brains alive. Turn off the oxygen and let them die , suffocating and they can live in infinite freedom 6 feet underan_dance

     
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    Joy Reid 

    “I mean, will anyone ... anyone at all ... ever fully trust the @CDCgov again? And who on God's earth would trust a vaccine approved by the @US_FDA ?? How do we get a vaccine distributed after this broken, Trumpist nonsense has infected everything? Even if Biden wins?” 

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    Joy Reid 

    “I mean, will anyone ... anyone at all ... ever fully trust the @CDCgov again? And who on God's earth would trust a vaccine approved by the @US_FDA ?? How do we get a vaccine distributed after this broken, Trumpist nonsense has infected everything? Even if Biden wins?” 

     
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    Bald female Democrat 

    “Never ever EVER will I take this vaccine. Not ever, never! I want one approved by science, not a failed businessman” 

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    Bald female Democrat 

    “Never ever EVER will I take this vaccine. Not ever, never! I want one approved by science, not a failed businessman” 

     
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    an_light BREAKING NEWS ...

    Alabama Republican Governor Ivey
    says ‘start blaming the unvaccinated folks’
    for alarming rise in Covid cases

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    an_light BREAKING NEWS ...

    Alabama Republican Governor Ivey
    says ‘start blaming the unvaccinated folks’
    for alarming rise in Covid cases

     
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     We agree on something. Never cared for Joy Reid & wouldn't be surprised to see her get canned @ MSNBC.

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

     We agree on something. Never cared for Joy Reid & wouldn't be surprised to see her get canned @ MSNBC.

     
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    an_policemanNEWS FLASH!!!!an_policeman 

    TRANSPARENT BIDEN WHITEHOUSE FLAT OUT REFUSES TO SAY HOW MANY OR WHO HAS TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID.

    REPORTER;

    "This administration has long claimed that you’re trying to be the most transparent in history. If that's the case why don’t you just release the number of breakthrough cases that you have with vaccinated staffers."

    The press secretary responded by saying we are in a "very different place" than we were six or seven months ago and touted the efficacy of vaccines in lessening the severity of coronavirus symptoms if a breakthrough case occurs.

    The reporter then pressed Psaki again for a specific answer.

    "Why not just provide the number?" Psaki was asked. "Are you trying to hide something?"

    Psaki shot back, "Why do you need to have that information?"

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    an_policemanNEWS FLASH!!!!an_policeman 

    TRANSPARENT BIDEN WHITEHOUSE FLAT OUT REFUSES TO SAY HOW MANY OR WHO HAS TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID.

    REPORTER;

    "This administration has long claimed that you’re trying to be the most transparent in history. If that's the case why don’t you just release the number of breakthrough cases that you have with vaccinated staffers."

    The press secretary responded by saying we are in a "very different place" than we were six or seven months ago and touted the efficacy of vaccines in lessening the severity of coronavirus symptoms if a breakthrough case occurs.

    The reporter then pressed Psaki again for a specific answer.

    "Why not just provide the number?" Psaki was asked. "Are you trying to hide something?"

    Psaki shot back, "Why do you need to have that information?"

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 5:48 PM ET #2743

    Israel says Pfizer vaccine only 39% effective to stop transmission of Delta variant(not good), 91% effective at preventing serious illness(very good!). 

    As I said before, best to see the doctor or health care provider you TRUST. Together make an informed decision!! thumbs_up

     

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    Israel says Pfizer vaccine only 39% effective to stop transmission of Delta variant(not good), 91% effective at preventing serious illness(very good!). 

    As I said before, best to see the doctor or health care provider you TRUST. Together make an informed decision!! thumbs_up

     

     
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     When is your appointment with the doc?

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    @UNIMAN

     When is your appointment with the doc?

     
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    It will eventually come down to monthly booster shots for the vaccinated. The age old question.

    Why would/do the vaccinated worry about a very healthy unvaccinated person like me?

    There is absolutely no danger for the vaccinated or so we are told.

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    It will eventually come down to monthly booster shots for the vaccinated. The age old question.

    Why would/do the vaccinated worry about a very healthy unvaccinated person like me?

    There is absolutely no danger for the vaccinated or so we are told.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2021 - 8:36 PM ET #2746

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  When is your appointment with the doc?

    Already been there, done that. How else would I know have the anti-bodies?

    Expect this Delta to really rise up Oct/Nov. in my area. Basing this on trends I see. Will get in before that for another check.

    You know, if only our Admin/CDC would use LOGIC!! What is more important; The vaccine or having the anti-bodies??? I would say having the anti-bodies most important!! Some get the vaccine but never develop adaquate anti-body response. Cancer suffers as example;

    https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021/covid-vaccine-limited-protection-in-cancer-patients

    How many get anti-body tested after vaccination to make sure it worked? I believe you should, know I will regardless if I get the shots or not. 

    Also, Mt Sinai studies show those with anti-bodies get same level of response with first dose and those without anti-bodies get with two doses. So not so concerned about being "too late". 

    Another note; This bullshit that unvaxed people will allow another deadly mutation. Total garbage. Delta came from India. And using Fubah's words; 

    (((Thanks to (BIDEN) allowing (THE DELTA STRAIN) such deep penetration into our country, this pandemic could be with us for years!!!! )))

    STUPID, ISN't IT!!

    India started out using Russian Sputnik vaccine along with their own vaccine recipe and the AZ vaccine. My belief is that more mutations will be caused by the virus coming in contact with vaccines and evolving ways to get around vaccines rather than just mutating from the unvaxed. Also there are billions of people outside the US not vaxed, probability is the mutation takes place elsewhere and then gets here anyways just as Delta did. And.......Israel reports Pfizer is only 39% effective at stopping an infection from Delta so the vaxed will be spreading it too. i.e. Washington D.C.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  When is your appointment with the doc?

    Already been there, done that. How else would I know have the anti-bodies?

    Expect this Delta to really rise up Oct/Nov. in my area. Basing this on trends I see. Will get in before that for another check.

    You know, if only our Admin/CDC would use LOGIC!! What is more important; The vaccine or having the anti-bodies??? I would say having the anti-bodies most important!! Some get the vaccine but never develop adaquate anti-body response. Cancer suffers as example;

    https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021/covid-vaccine-limited-protection-in-cancer-patients

    How many get anti-body tested after vaccination to make sure it worked? I believe you should, know I will regardless if I get the shots or not. 

    Also, Mt Sinai studies show those with anti-bodies get same level of response with first dose and those without anti-bodies get with two doses. So not so concerned about being "too late". 

    Another note; This bullshit that unvaxed people will allow another deadly mutation. Total garbage. Delta came from India. And using Fubah's words; 

    (((Thanks to (BIDEN) allowing (THE DELTA STRAIN) such deep penetration into our country, this pandemic could be with us for years!!!! )))

    STUPID, ISN't IT!!

    India started out using Russian Sputnik vaccine along with their own vaccine recipe and the AZ vaccine. My belief is that more mutations will be caused by the virus coming in contact with vaccines and evolving ways to get around vaccines rather than just mutating from the unvaxed. Also there are billions of people outside the US not vaxed, probability is the mutation takes place elsewhere and then gets here anyways just as Delta did. And.......Israel reports Pfizer is only 39% effective at stopping an infection from Delta so the vaxed will be spreading it too. i.e. Washington D.C.

     

     
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     Be careful, bro. My nephew, 19 year old college athlete, had what we now suspect was covid in late 2019. Now has it again. His sister caught it at Mardi Gras in New Orleans in 2020. My sister, their mom, anti-vax, nursed them back to health each time, has yet to get it herself. It's a crap shoot but given your lifestyle, where you live, and the fact that you caught it, I wouldn't be too worried. It kicked my nephew's ass the first go round. Robbed him of most of his senior year of HS football. They weren't sure what was up. They were like, "It's some kind of virus we really can't explain."

    I still say China is just sitting in that lab tweaking this thing. Perfecting it. It was always a biological weapon. I believed this in February of 2020. I believe it now.

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     Be careful, bro. My nephew, 19 year old college athlete, had what we now suspect was covid in late 2019. Now has it again. His sister caught it at Mardi Gras in New Orleans in 2020. My sister, their mom, anti-vax, nursed them back to health each time, has yet to get it herself. It's a crap shoot but given your lifestyle, where you live, and the fact that you caught it, I wouldn't be too worried. It kicked my nephew's ass the first go round. Robbed him of most of his senior year of HS football. They weren't sure what was up. They were like, "It's some kind of virus we really can't explain."

    I still say China is just sitting in that lab tweaking this thing. Perfecting it. It was always a biological weapon. I believed this in February of 2020. I believe it now.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @UNIMAN  Be careful, bro. My nephew, 19 year old college athlete, had what we now suspect was covid in late 2019. Now has it again. His sister caught it at Mardi Gras in New Orleans in 2020. My sister, their mom, anti-vax, nursed them back to health each time, has yet to get it herself. It's a crap shoot but given your lifestyle, where you live, and the fact that you caught it, I wouldn't be too worried. It kicked my nephew's ass the first go round. Robbed him of most of his senior year of HS football. They weren't sure what was up. They were like, "It's some kind of virus we really can't explain." I still say China is just sitting in that lab tweaking this thing. Perfecting it. It was always a biological weapon. I believed this in February of 2020. I believe it now.

    I hear ya! My sister, her husband and son all tested positive last yr, only she showed any symptoms and not all that bad even though she has Lupus. Mine was lot of aches, big headache followed by bad irregular heart beat and then very tight chested. Lasted about 6-7 days with each symptom lasting a couple of days each. Heart issue was one day. Never lost sense of taste, etc. So my biggest worry is that the vaccine will also cause heart issues with me. DeAndre Hopkins of the NFL had recently tweeted a relative (can't remember who) had a bad irregular heart issue after the vaccine. Why chance it if anti-bodies are there? And, I really have limited contact with others and can really lockdown when need be.

    My daughter and her husband think they had it twice, once in Feb of 2020-untested and again in the fall of 2020-tested confirmed, both are overweight and both got through it but had a hard 7-10 days of agony. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @UNIMAN  Be careful, bro. My nephew, 19 year old college athlete, had what we now suspect was covid in late 2019. Now has it again. His sister caught it at Mardi Gras in New Orleans in 2020. My sister, their mom, anti-vax, nursed them back to health each time, has yet to get it herself. It's a crap shoot but given your lifestyle, where you live, and the fact that you caught it, I wouldn't be too worried. It kicked my nephew's ass the first go round. Robbed him of most of his senior year of HS football. They weren't sure what was up. They were like, "It's some kind of virus we really can't explain." I still say China is just sitting in that lab tweaking this thing. Perfecting it. It was always a biological weapon. I believed this in February of 2020. I believe it now.

    I hear ya! My sister, her husband and son all tested positive last yr, only she showed any symptoms and not all that bad even though she has Lupus. Mine was lot of aches, big headache followed by bad irregular heart beat and then very tight chested. Lasted about 6-7 days with each symptom lasting a couple of days each. Heart issue was one day. Never lost sense of taste, etc. So my biggest worry is that the vaccine will also cause heart issues with me. DeAndre Hopkins of the NFL had recently tweeted a relative (can't remember who) had a bad irregular heart issue after the vaccine. Why chance it if anti-bodies are there? And, I really have limited contact with others and can really lockdown when need be.

    My daughter and her husband think they had it twice, once in Feb of 2020-untested and again in the fall of 2020-tested confirmed, both are overweight and both got through it but had a hard 7-10 days of agony. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKtheBANKss:

    I say let the unvacinated die! They have had a half a year to get a free shot that takes 20 seconds at their supermarket.  Fuck them! The deserve to die. I have zero sympathy for them. They are costing the healthcare system so much money most are uneducated and in the lower economic groups.  Let them die in the streets because the "cure" has been available for free for over half a year. Medical professionals shouldn't have to be at risk for these morons of society who wear their stupidity on their sleeves then are all BOO HOO when they can't breathe fuck you and fuck them. We don't need no oxygen let the motherfuckers die!! So many millions from poor countries would get the vaccine shots but American idiots in the dopey states think their freedom is being taken away by getting the vaccine  Jackasses. Indonesia has basically the same population as the USA but are healthier not a country loaded with fat unhealthy fucks that eat shit good and their exercise is walking to and from their cars. By October the USA will be back on both knees again, all because of low IQ morons. Let them gasp for their last breath and die instead of spending $100,000 in medical costs to keep their pig brains alive. Turn off the oxygen and let them die , suffocating and they can live in infinite freedom 6 feet under

    I hope none of the episodes in the link below happen to you or your partmer. From a healthy unvaccinated free American.

    COVID Vaccine Adverse Reactions 2021 (rumble.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKtheBANKss:

    I say let the unvacinated die! They have had a half a year to get a free shot that takes 20 seconds at their supermarket.  Fuck them! The deserve to die. I have zero sympathy for them. They are costing the healthcare system so much money most are uneducated and in the lower economic groups.  Let them die in the streets because the "cure" has been available for free for over half a year. Medical professionals shouldn't have to be at risk for these morons of society who wear their stupidity on their sleeves then are all BOO HOO when they can't breathe fuck you and fuck them. We don't need no oxygen let the motherfuckers die!! So many millions from poor countries would get the vaccine shots but American idiots in the dopey states think their freedom is being taken away by getting the vaccine  Jackasses. Indonesia has basically the same population as the USA but are healthier not a country loaded with fat unhealthy fucks that eat shit good and their exercise is walking to and from their cars. By October the USA will be back on both knees again, all because of low IQ morons. Let them gasp for their last breath and die instead of spending $100,000 in medical costs to keep their pig brains alive. Turn off the oxygen and let them die , suffocating and they can live in infinite freedom 6 feet under

    I hope none of the episodes in the link below happen to you or your partmer. From a healthy unvaccinated free American.

    COVID Vaccine Adverse Reactions 2021 (rumble.com)

     
     
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    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has recently stepped up his vaccination advocacy,
    warning that "we're going to be back in a situation in the fall ... that we were in last year"
    if more Americans aren't vaccinated as soon as possible. He also urged people to
    "ignore all of these other voices that are giving demonstrably bad advice."

    "There's no good reason not to get vaccinated," he implored

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    Mitch McConnell strongly endorses trump-vaccines

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has recently stepped up his vaccination advocacy,
    warning that "we're going to be back in a situation in the fall ... that we were in last year"
    if more Americans aren't vaccinated as soon as possible. He also urged people to
    "ignore all of these other voices that are giving demonstrably bad advice."

    "There's no good reason not to get vaccinated," he implored

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