Covid-19 Good And Bad

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/

Now, you go look at KFF's little TABLE #1. There you will see this data that you refer to is from January 1st, 2021 to July 17th, 2021.

Now, think back, or look it up, 80% of the deaths this year happened before March 31st, maybe a little lower now. Hospitalizations through the roof in January. Remember the huge January surge???? How many were vaxed back then???? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Those who died at the end of March contracted covid at the beginning of March. At the beginning of March just about 10% had received two shots, and we wait 14 days after to say "fully vaccinated". AND NO FREAKING DELTA BACK THEN!!!

So the KFF, like our CDC and the Biden admin. used that data, 80% of deaths, to skew the numbers to look like 99% are unvaxed. 

It is much worse as Delta spreads. That false narative will soon have to be abandoned.

And I love how the CDC now says there this many vaccinated hospitalizations and deaths, BUT this many are asymptomatic and NOT related to COVID-19. 

OK, how many hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaxed are asymptomatic or not related.  Their not going to chart THAT, only when it fits their narative. 

Minnesota alone has had over 7000 vaccinated in the hospital with covid again and 60 have died. Oh look, KFF's table doesn't have Minnesota. Who woulda thought.

Yes the vaccine reduces hospitalizations and deaths. Yes the unvaxed are twice as likely to spread covid. But the VAXED ARE GETTING IT, SPREADING IT, AND GOING TO THE HOSPITAL, AND DYING. AND NOT AT 1% my friend. AND YES, THE MEDIAN AGE OF COVID DEATHS HAS ALWAYS BEEN 78 YEARS OLD. SO DON'T PULL THE HORSE CRAP THAT THE VACCINATED DYING ARE OLDER. THEY ALL ARE!!!!

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/

@UNIMAN

 And I can't stress enough, THE DELTA VARIANT DOES NOT ALWAYS SHOW UP IN NASAL SWAB TESTS.

I'd advise anybody, before running out to get a booster shot, if you plan to, wait until there is a targeted Delta Variant. Moderna seems to be handling in well. Even J and J. That shit is cutting through Pfizer like butter though.

Moderna currently being investigated for causing heart inflamation in young adults.

Massachusetts has had 124 deaths of the vaccinated. Since May 1st a total of 559 people have died there of COVID. So figuring most if not all of those 124 deaths happened since May 1, that's 22% of covid deaths. Massachusetts has had 2672 breakthrough cases from Aug 7th to Aug 17th. That's 22.7% of the cases during that time period. YES, lower than the unvaxed, no where near 1%.

And YES Stu, the delta is stealthy!!!!  https://healthwise.punchng.com/nasal-swab-diagnosis-often-return-false-negative-for-delta-variant-of-covid-19-says-physician/

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't see that!!!

thats what matters most

The following results of this particular Pfizer shot was truly effective! Take a look for yourself. Please get in line for your lifesaving booster shot! Knock on wood. I haven't gotten sick since covid broke out!

COVID Vaccine Caused a Woman’s Skin to Rot According to Doctors – DailyVeracity

the rump-vaccines work exceptionally well against the original virus  and still very well against the delta ,but even so it was always believed that booster shots might become necessary   just like they r with some other diseases

I'll agree with that. The rest of the 99% is garbage. "This is a pandemic of unvaccinated" Garbage!!!

Massachusetts has one of the highest vaccination rates yet there are 4 times more cases from Aug 1 to Aug 19 this year than from the same period last year. 

And absolutely NO DATA on those previously infected being reinfected or hospitalization rates of those previously infected and recovered.

And I like this crap released by our CDC; https://www.jpost.com/health-science/odds-of-covid-19-re-infection-twice-as-likely-if-unvaccinated-study-676109

The study was only 246 people and had these limitations (not usually reported by our media);

 "The findings in this report are subject to at least five limitations.

--First, reinfection was not confirmed through whole genome sequencing, which would be necessary to definitively prove that the reinfection was caused from a distinct virus relative to the first infection. Although in some cases the repeat positive test could be indicative of prolonged viral shedding or failure to clear the initial viral infection (9), given the time between initial and subsequent positive molecular tests among participants in this study, reinfection is the most likely explanation.

--Second, persons who have been vaccinated are possibly less likely to get tested. Therefore, the association of reinfection and lack of vaccination might be overestimated.

--Third, vaccine doses administered at federal or out-of-state sites are not typically entered in KYIR, so vaccination data are possibly missing for some persons in these analyses. In addition, inconsistencies in name and date of birth between KYIR and NEDSS might limit ability to match the two databases. Because case investigations include questions regarding vaccination, and KYIR might be updated during the case investigation process, vaccination data might be more likely to be missing for controls. Thus, the OR might be even more favorable for vaccination.

--Fourth, although case-patients and controls were matched based on age, sex, and date of initial infection, other unknown confounders might be present.

--Finally, this is a retrospective study design using data from a single state during a 2-month period; therefore, these findings cannot be used to infer causation. Additional prospective studies with larger populations are warranted to support these findings.

In other words, full of holes, more garbage that fits the narative!!

Of course.  The trump-vaccines (which were devoloped against the ORIGINAL STRAIN of the virus that trump allowed to spread all over the country) do provide 91%-95% protections from severe illness/death against the ORINGINAL STRAIN of the virus, and still good but slightly lesser effectiveness against mutated forms of that original virus (as one would logically expect)

And as the virus continues to mutate, the current trump-vaccines will be rendered virtually useless -- as I have stated repeatedly before. This too is logical.  New vaccines will have to be developed or our nations hospital systems could completely collapse.

Tomorrow @ 1 PM we will be attending the funeral service of a buddy who was in our wedding party 32 years ago. He was not vaccinated & died of covid after spending a week in the hospital. I've been asked by his son to to say a few at the service & just got finished putting my thoughts down on paper. He's the closet person to us that has died of covid. There's a story I wanted to share but it's just not the right forum to do so. He was a degenerate gambler which cost him his 1st marriage. However, as far as I know, he hasn't gambled in the last 7 years or so. One of his biggest gambling faults was the he was always chasing & we all know how that usually ends up. The story is both funny but also sad. Here goes...

Back in the late 70's we would attend the Yankee spring training games. After the game we would end up at Pompano Harness track or Dania Jai-Ali or Hollywood dog track. We would drink a lot during the game & got to know one of the beer vendors that worked our section along the 3rd base side of the field. He shared that he worked on the back stretch of Pompano & knew of a trotter that was running the following Saturday. So we go to the Yankee/Oriole game the following Saturday & check to get the name & the race # of the horse & to also make sure we should still make a play. He told us to play #7 in Race 7.

So we get to Pompano with a nice beer buzz on but we topped it off with a half a doobie walking through the track parking lot. Between the cars, he sees a program on the floor that someone who left early threw away & he picks it up. I said to him "Pete, we're here for one horse; we don't need that." But he took it anyway.    

We didn't have a lot of money back then & a $20 Win/Place play for us was a big wager. We got separated at the window & the race goes off. The starting gate car opens the gate & #7 goes to the lead & never stops trotting. He won by at least 5 lenghts @17-1. So now I'm looking for him & see him at the rail & all of a sudden he threw the program he found up in the air. I went running towards him to find out what was wrong.

Turns out he bet on #3 because the guy who had thrown away the program had circled #3. I couldn't understand how he would bet on a horse that some loser who left early had circled when the beer vendor had given us what turned out to be a solid play.

So tomorrow I will keep that story to myself & praise him for the good man he was to all in attendance. I will miss him dearly.

Damn covid. 

Sorry to hear that, Midnight 

Your young friend passed DECADES too young.

.........and this undoubtedly hurts.

I am very sorry for your loss Midnight.

@Midnight1

 from one fellow vet to another    i am deeply sorry your friend has left us and the grief u must b feeling

have to wonder if things would have been different if he got the rump-vaccines

@Midnight1

 Great story. My sincerest condolences. Be strong. Lean on your family so that his family can lean on you.

@Midnight1

Sorry to hear you loss of a long time buddy, he passed too young.  

@Midnight1

 I'm so very sorry 

Just in. Jesse Jackson and his wife hospitalized after contracting covid! Both were vaccinated! The shot is absolutely worthless!

This just in:

trump-toilet worshipper claims trump was/is an absolute moron for getting the trump-vaccines developed, taking credit for it, and getting himself and entire family innoculated with those trum-vaccines.

just in .  family of 4 killed in a head on  collision with cement truck .

all 4 were wearing seatbelts

rumplickers say this proves conclusively that seatbelts r " worthless " and an afront to their freedoms

You just refuse to accept the fact that the planet has been played by evil players. Cognitive dissonance is getting in the way.

The link is 17 minutes of truth from a 'real' scientist regarding the consequences after taking the shot! Great info and a must watch! Cooper and Lemon will not show you the following!

A PATHOLOGIST SUMMARY OF WHAT THESE JABS DO TO THE BRAIN AND OTHER ORGANS: 17 min vid from white coat summit - The Donald - America First! (patriots.win)

Jesse Jackson and wife are both over 70 years old.  Vaccines trigger weaker immune response in the elderly.  Chances of breakthrough infections are higher with increasing age.  Their illness would have been worse with no vaccination.  Overall, vast majority of fully vaccinated people aren't getting sick.  The ones that do experience milder symptoms. 

Valid counter-point.

It's clearly absurd to cherrypick an obvious exception and hold that up as some sort of contrarian proof.

According to journal Health affairs, Indiana university study found US early vaccination prevents nearly 140,000 deaths and 3 million cases in first 5 months of 2021.  Economic value of lives saved amounts to between $625 billion to $1.4 trillion.  Thus far, vaccination has been the most reliable means to check the pandemic.

On Saturday, former Pres. Donald Trump has been booed by his supporters in the Alabama rally for telling them to get inoculated. Ideology dipped in such stupid and stinky sludge, even Trump got booed for suggesting health guidance.