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    thirdperson
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 10:49 AM ET #3051

    Finally, Food drug administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older.  This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy.  Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic. 

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.  Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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    Finally, Food drug administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older.  This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy.  Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic. 

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.  Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 4:03 PM ET #3052

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to the Journal Health Affairs, Indiana university study found
    US early vaccination prevents nearly 140,000 deaths and 3 million cases
    in first 5 months of 2021.
    Economic value of lives saved amounts to between $625 billion to $1.4 trillion. an_light
    Thus far, vaccination has been the most reliable means to check the pandemic.

    an_light  Joe Biden's "Operation Ludicrous Speed" saved lives and helps economy!  thumbs_up

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to the Journal Health Affairs, Indiana university study found
    US early vaccination prevents nearly 140,000 deaths and 3 million cases
    in first 5 months of 2021.
    Economic value of lives saved amounts to between $625 billion to $1.4 trillion. an_light
    Thus far, vaccination has been the most reliable means to check the pandemic.

    an_light  Joe Biden's "Operation Ludicrous Speed" saved lives and helps economy!  thumbs_up

     

     
    mctrap
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 5:56 PM ET #3053

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Finally, Food drug administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older.  This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy.  Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.  Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.  Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    You are incorrect, the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. Today is an historically tragic day in the U.S. because no Pharma product linked to so many deaths and injuries during its trial period has ever before been approved by the corrupt FDA.

    Just from Europe and the U.S. official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.

    And official media sources in Brazil admit that over 32k people have died following Covid19 shots.

    Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. It offers robust protection against all variants, whereas vaccine induced immunity can't because when you recover from the natural infection, you have both antibodies and T cells against all parts of the virus, not just the spike protein. The vaccine focuses on the spike protein, whereas natural immunity focuses on the entire virus. So once that portion of the virus has mutated sufficiently, the vaccine no longer is effective.

    And real world data (not big Pharma fake news) shows that most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases since June. Plus the CDC admits that 12k people have died after getting the shots in the last 8 months alone, which is double the amount of deaths recorded following ALL vaccinations for the past 30 years. So the real world evidence confirms that our worst fears that the Covid vaccines cause more harm than good has become true, and that they may actually even accelerate the spread of the virus.

    This is why vaccine mandates are fascism. There's nothing to fear but the fear mongers and their snake oil that's being used to reduce the liberties of citizens through medical tyranny.

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Finally, Food drug administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older.  This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy.  Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.  Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.  Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    You are incorrect, the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. Today is an historically tragic day in the U.S. because no Pharma product linked to so many deaths and injuries during its trial period has ever before been approved by the corrupt FDA.

    Just from Europe and the U.S. official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.

    And official media sources in Brazil admit that over 32k people have died following Covid19 shots.

    Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. It offers robust protection against all variants, whereas vaccine induced immunity can't because when you recover from the natural infection, you have both antibodies and T cells against all parts of the virus, not just the spike protein. The vaccine focuses on the spike protein, whereas natural immunity focuses on the entire virus. So once that portion of the virus has mutated sufficiently, the vaccine no longer is effective.

    And real world data (not big Pharma fake news) shows that most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases since June. Plus the CDC admits that 12k people have died after getting the shots in the last 8 months alone, which is double the amount of deaths recorded following ALL vaccinations for the past 30 years. So the real world evidence confirms that our worst fears that the Covid vaccines cause more harm than good has become true, and that they may actually even accelerate the spread of the virus.

    This is why vaccine mandates are fascism. There's nothing to fear but the fear mongers and their snake oil that's being used to reduce the liberties of citizens through medical tyranny.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 6:00 PM ET #3054

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.


    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

    Great news, thirdperson!  thumbs_up

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.


    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

    Great news, thirdperson!  thumbs_up

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 6:10 PM ET #3055

     

    Trump was booed at his own rally
    for praising the covid vaccines
    that he takes credit for

     

        "I believe totally in your freedoms, I do.
         But I recommend that you take the vaccines,"
          - Trump said, as the crowd began to boo.

        "But I recommend: take the vaccines.
         I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."

     

     

     

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    Trump was booed at his own rally
    for praising the covid vaccines
    that he takes credit for

     

        "I believe totally in your freedoms, I do.
         But I recommend that you take the vaccines,"
          - Trump said, as the crowd began to boo.

        "But I recommend: take the vaccines.
         I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 7:44 PM ET #3056

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older. This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy. Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic. Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July. Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.   Great news, thirdperson!

    Yea, buddy. Here's some more "great news" for someone with a deranged mind.

    "Graphene Oxide confirmed main ingredient in Covid shots."    https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/08/09/confirmed-graphene-oxide-main-ingredient-in-covid-shots/

    Karen Kingston PFIZER whistleblower confirms Covid injections are poisonous bio-weapons.

    "A former PFIZER employee and current analyst for the Pharma and medical device industries, came forward with indisputable documentation proving graphene-oxide nanoparticles is the key ingredient in biotechs covid19 serum."

    "This means that an unapproved industrial poison is being dishonestly marketed as a vaccine and injected into children's veins."

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older. This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy. Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic. Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July. Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.   Great news, thirdperson!

    Yea, buddy. Here's some more "great news" for someone with a deranged mind.

    "Graphene Oxide confirmed main ingredient in Covid shots."    https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/08/09/confirmed-graphene-oxide-main-ingredient-in-covid-shots/

    Karen Kingston PFIZER whistleblower confirms Covid injections are poisonous bio-weapons.

    "A former PFIZER employee and current analyst for the Pharma and medical device industries, came forward with indisputable documentation proving graphene-oxide nanoparticles is the key ingredient in biotechs covid19 serum."

    "This means that an unapproved industrial poison is being dishonestly marketed as a vaccine and injected into children's veins."

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 11:02 PM ET #3057

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

     

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

     

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

     

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 11:05 PM ET #3058

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

     

     

    Now that the companies' detailed, so-called biologics license application
    has been granted, it's likely that vaccination will be required by many
    companies, schools and other entities.

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

     

     

    Now that the companies' detailed, so-called biologics license application
    has been granted, it's likely that vaccination will be required by many
    companies, schools and other entities.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 11:12 PM ET #3059

    We will need a parallel economy for people who do not want spike proteins and prions running throughout  their body! Insanity! Enjoy the poison in your booster!

    Reply

    We will need a parallel economy for people who do not want spike proteins and prions running throughout  their body! Insanity! Enjoy the poison in your booster!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2021 - 11:22 PM ET #3060

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

    Now that the companies' detailed, so-called biologics license application
    has been granted, it's likely that vaccination will be required by many
    companies, schools and other entities.

    Monday, President Joe Biden called on companies, nonprofit groups,
    government agencies and schools to "step up vaccine requirements
    that will reach millions more people."

    Vaccinations allowed people in this country to stop worrying about
    diseases such as smallpox, polio, measles, mumps and rubella, he said,
    and vaccines can help do the same for COVID-19.

    "It only makes sense to require a vaccine to stop the spread of COVID-19,"
    Biden said at a midday news conference.
    "With today's FDA full approval, there's another good reason to get vaccinated."

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

    Now that the companies' detailed, so-called biologics license application
    has been granted, it's likely that vaccination will be required by many
    companies, schools and other entities.

    Monday, President Joe Biden called on companies, nonprofit groups,
    government agencies and schools to "step up vaccine requirements
    that will reach millions more people."

    Vaccinations allowed people in this country to stop worrying about
    diseases such as smallpox, polio, measles, mumps and rubella, he said,
    and vaccines can help do the same for COVID-19.

    "It only makes sense to require a vaccine to stop the spread of COVID-19,"
    Biden said at a midday news conference.
    "With today's FDA full approval, there's another good reason to get vaccinated."

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    We will need a parallel economy for people who do not want spike proteins and prions running throughout  their body! Insanity! Enjoy the poison in your booster!

     

     

        "I believe totally in your freedoms, I do.
         But I recommend that you take the vaccines,"
                                            - Donald Trump said

        "But I recommend: take the vaccines.
         I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    We will need a parallel economy for people who do not want spike proteins and prions running throughout  their body! Insanity! Enjoy the poison in your booster!

     

     

        "I believe totally in your freedoms, I do.
         But I recommend that you take the vaccines,"
                                            - Donald Trump said

        "But I recommend: take the vaccines.
         I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases.

    99% survival rate is misleading because it suggests coronavirus is harmless.  Downplaying of over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.

    VAERS disclaimer warns that reports of adverse events are unreliable and unverified. Deaths are over reported by anyone (relatives or lawyers) even if actual cause of death is unrelated to vaccination such as car accident or underlying medical condition.  Investigations reveal no causal link between vaccines and deaths. 

    Natural infection isn't better than vaccines.  Risks of death, serious illness and long term consequences outweigh any benefit from natural immunity.  Vaccines are far safer and provides more consistent protection to larger population in less time. 

    Surges in covid infections and hospitalizations are mostly driven by unvaccinated population.  Unvaccinated people are far more likely to be infected and to infect others.  Breakthrough infections are rare among fully vaccinated people who recover faster and avoid serious illness.  Vast majority of covid hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population. 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases.

    99% survival rate is misleading because it suggests coronavirus is harmless.  Downplaying of over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.

    VAERS disclaimer warns that reports of adverse events are unreliable and unverified. Deaths are over reported by anyone (relatives or lawyers) even if actual cause of death is unrelated to vaccination such as car accident or underlying medical condition.  Investigations reveal no causal link between vaccines and deaths. 

    Natural infection isn't better than vaccines.  Risks of death, serious illness and long term consequences outweigh any benefit from natural immunity.  Vaccines are far safer and provides more consistent protection to larger population in less time. 

    Surges in covid infections and hospitalizations are mostly driven by unvaccinated population.  Unvaccinated people are far more likely to be infected and to infect others.  Breakthrough infections are rare among fully vaccinated people who recover faster and avoid serious illness.  Vast majority of covid hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    "Graphene Oxide confirmed main ingredient in Covid shots."    Karen Kingston PFIZER whistleblower confirms Covid injections are poisonous bio-weapons. "A former PFIZER employee and current analyst for the Pharma and medical device industries, came forward with indisputable documentation proving graphene-oxide nanoparticles is the key ingredient in biotechs covid19 serum."

    Covid vaccines don't contain graphene oxide according to fact checks by Reuters, snopes and Associated press.   Lead stories check found Karen Kingston didn't work for pfizer in development of vaccine.  Food drug adminstration doesn't list graphene oxide as one of the ingredients.  According to American chemical society, graphene contains carbon and appears dark even if in just 1% of ingredients.  However vaccine liquid is transparent.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    "Graphene Oxide confirmed main ingredient in Covid shots."    Karen Kingston PFIZER whistleblower confirms Covid injections are poisonous bio-weapons. "A former PFIZER employee and current analyst for the Pharma and medical device industries, came forward with indisputable documentation proving graphene-oxide nanoparticles is the key ingredient in biotechs covid19 serum."

    Covid vaccines don't contain graphene oxide according to fact checks by Reuters, snopes and Associated press.   Lead stories check found Karen Kingston didn't work for pfizer in development of vaccine.  Food drug adminstration doesn't list graphene oxide as one of the ingredients.  According to American chemical society, graphene contains carbon and appears dark even if in just 1% of ingredients.  However vaccine liquid is transparent.

     
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    We shut down the country when the average age of corona death is 78.6 There  is very little threat to human life if you are under 60. 

    My lefty/communist leaning brother at age 60 could not wait to get the shot. 2 months later he can not work as a pipe fitter. He is completely out of breath after minimal activity. Likely caused by the spike proteins which lead to micro clots. He finally somewhat admits the shot might have caused his health issues.

    Reply

    We shut down the country when the average age of corona death is 78.6 There  is very little threat to human life if you are under 60. 

    My lefty/communist leaning brother at age 60 could not wait to get the shot. 2 months later he can not work as a pipe fitter. He is completely out of breath after minimal activity. Likely caused by the spike proteins which lead to micro clots. He finally somewhat admits the shot might have caused his health issues.

     
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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32076622/buffalo-bills-wrs-cole-beasley-gabriel-davis-quarantine-being-considered-close-contacts

     

    BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Buffalo Bills wide receivers Cole Beasley and Gabriel Davis will miss the next five days of practice after being deemed close contacts of a team trainer who tested positive for COVID-19, a league source confirmed Tuesday. Defensive tackle Star Lotulelei is also in quarantine, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

    All three tested negative for the virus Tuesday morning but must miss practice anyway, per the NFL's COVID-19 policy. The trainer is fully vaccinated, a source told Schefter.

    NOTHING TO SEE HERE....

    Reply

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32076622/buffalo-bills-wrs-cole-beasley-gabriel-davis-quarantine-being-considered-close-contacts

     

    BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Buffalo Bills wide receivers Cole Beasley and Gabriel Davis will miss the next five days of practice after being deemed close contacts of a team trainer who tested positive for COVID-19, a league source confirmed Tuesday. Defensive tackle Star Lotulelei is also in quarantine, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

    All three tested negative for the virus Tuesday morning but must miss practice anyway, per the NFL's COVID-19 policy. The trainer is fully vaccinated, a source told Schefter.

    NOTHING TO SEE HERE....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases. 99% survival rate is misleading because it suggests coronavirus is harmless.  Downplaying of over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US. VAERS disclaimer warns that reports of adverse events are unreliable and unverified. Deaths are over reported by anyone (relatives or lawyers) even if actual cause of death is unrelated to vaccination such as car accident or underlying medical condition.  Investigations reveal no causal link between vaccines and deaths.  Natural infection isn't better than vaccines.  Risks of death, serious illness and long term consequences outweigh any benefit from natural immunity.  Vaccines are far safer and provides more consistent protection to larger population in less time.  Surges in covid infections and hospitalizations are mostly driven by unvaccinated population.  Unvaccinated people are far more likely to be infected and to infect others.  Breakthrough infections are rare among fully vaccinated people who recover faster and avoid serious illness.  Vast majority of covid hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population.

    Pack of lies and government propaganda as usual. The weak and corrupted government trolls have NO credibility and ALL of your Fake fact checkers have long been exposed as paid Frauds. Democide promoters should be banned from a sports betting site as a matter of good business practices.

    Ages: 0-17 = 99.998% survival rate

    Ages: 18-49 = 99.95% survival rate

    Ages: 50-64 = 99.4% survival rate

    Ages: 65+ = 91% survival rate

    So, it's easy to see that the Covid Con is old people (baby boomers) who account for 16% of the population, but 80% of "Covid19" deaths in the U.S. 

    It's also easy to see that the survival figures indicate there is and never was a pandemic. So, without those phony old people numbers, the whole scamdemic is exposed. Also the total number of deaths in 2020 remained normal. You can't have a pandemic unless all cause mortality increases in the general public. Not to mention that the PCR test has been proven to be a total fraud.

    The vaccines have caused more deaths than Covid would have caused during the same period and have now killed more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. The fake big fraud Pharma "cure" is far and away more dangerous than the disease.

    It's obvious that ALL of your posts are pandemic theater productions produced by a big pharma + government = fascist troll.  peace_5

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases. 99% survival rate is misleading because it suggests coronavirus is harmless.  Downplaying of over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US. VAERS disclaimer warns that reports of adverse events are unreliable and unverified. Deaths are over reported by anyone (relatives or lawyers) even if actual cause of death is unrelated to vaccination such as car accident or underlying medical condition.  Investigations reveal no causal link between vaccines and deaths.  Natural infection isn't better than vaccines.  Risks of death, serious illness and long term consequences outweigh any benefit from natural immunity.  Vaccines are far safer and provides more consistent protection to larger population in less time.  Surges in covid infections and hospitalizations are mostly driven by unvaccinated population.  Unvaccinated people are far more likely to be infected and to infect others.  Breakthrough infections are rare among fully vaccinated people who recover faster and avoid serious illness.  Vast majority of covid hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population.

    Pack of lies and government propaganda as usual. The weak and corrupted government trolls have NO credibility and ALL of your Fake fact checkers have long been exposed as paid Frauds. Democide promoters should be banned from a sports betting site as a matter of good business practices.

    Ages: 0-17 = 99.998% survival rate

    Ages: 18-49 = 99.95% survival rate

    Ages: 50-64 = 99.4% survival rate

    Ages: 65+ = 91% survival rate

    So, it's easy to see that the Covid Con is old people (baby boomers) who account for 16% of the population, but 80% of "Covid19" deaths in the U.S. 

    It's also easy to see that the survival figures indicate there is and never was a pandemic. So, without those phony old people numbers, the whole scamdemic is exposed. Also the total number of deaths in 2020 remained normal. You can't have a pandemic unless all cause mortality increases in the general public. Not to mention that the PCR test has been proven to be a total fraud.

    The vaccines have caused more deaths than Covid would have caused during the same period and have now killed more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. The fake big fraud Pharma "cure" is far and away more dangerous than the disease.

    It's obvious that ALL of your posts are pandemic theater productions produced by a big pharma + government = fascist troll.  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 5:21 PM ET #3067

    Oxford University study finds fully vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times viral load compared to the unvaccinated, proving the Covid19 jabs make you worse.

    This groundbreaking paper published Aug. 10 in the Lancet, "includes alarming findings devastating to the Covid19 rollout. The papers authors demonstrated widespread failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown situation."

    "Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new Covid surges. Continued vaccinations will only make this problem worse."

    Also: Soaring: "European Union reports 1.9 million vaccination injuries, 20,595 deaths.

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Oxford University study finds fully vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times viral load compared to the unvaccinated, proving the Covid19 jabs make you worse.

    This groundbreaking paper published Aug. 10 in the Lancet, "includes alarming findings devastating to the Covid19 rollout. The papers authors demonstrated widespread failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown situation."

    "Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new Covid surges. Continued vaccinations will only make this problem worse."

    Also: Soaring: "European Union reports 1.9 million vaccination injuries, 20,595 deaths.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 6:41 PM ET #3068

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

     

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

    rump-vaccine gets full stamp of approval  thumbs_up

    one of the only things rump actually did right

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

     

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

    rump-vaccine gets full stamp of approval  thumbs_up

    one of the only things rump actually did right

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2021 - 6:42 PM ET #3069

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Finally, Food drug administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older.  This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy.  Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic. 

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.  Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

    keep these facts coming ,thirdperson !  thumbs_up

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Finally, Food drug administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 years or older.  This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and fight vaccine hesitancy.  Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic. 

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.  Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

    keep these facts coming ,thirdperson !  thumbs_up

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

     

     

     

     

    Now that the companies' detailed, so-called biologics license application
    has been granted, it's likely that vaccination will be required by many
    companies, schools and other entities.

    i agree  and this is very important

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
    Finally, Food Drug Administration grants full approval for Pfizer vaccine
    for people age 16 years or older.

    This is expected to open the door to more vaccine mandates and
    fight vaccine hesitancy.
    Previously, vaccines are authorized for emergency use due to seriousness of the pandemic.

    Kaiser family foundation reveals unvaccinated people
    costs US healthcare system over $2.3 billion in June and July.
    Average cost of $20,000 per patient which is preventable by cheap vaccination.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

     

     

     

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    becomes first to win FDA's full approval,
    paving way for boosters, mandates

    USA TODAY
    Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
    for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration
    issued its full stamp of approval.

     

     

     

     

    Now that the companies' detailed, so-called biologics license application
    has been granted, it's likely that vaccination will be required by many
    companies, schools and other entities.

    i agree  and this is very important

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    the total number of deaths in 2020 remained normal.  Not to mention that the PCR test has been proven to be a total fraud. The vaccines have caused more deaths than Covid would have caused during the same period and have now killed more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

    2020 is the deadliest year on record in the US. Over 522,000 more deaths than expected from comparing 5 previous years according to Virginia commonwealth university study.  Excess deaths can only be explained by pandemic.  Actually, covid deaths are under counted because many people are never tested.

    PCR tests are considered the gold standard for diagnosis by US center for disease control.  National institute of health study found PCR tests correctly diagnosed coronavirus in 97% of cases when properly used.

    No proof covid vaccines actually cause any more deaths than normally expected after investigations of VAERS reports.  Statistically inevitable that some people die for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Association isn't causation.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    the total number of deaths in 2020 remained normal.  Not to mention that the PCR test has been proven to be a total fraud. The vaccines have caused more deaths than Covid would have caused during the same period and have now killed more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

    2020 is the deadliest year on record in the US. Over 522,000 more deaths than expected from comparing 5 previous years according to Virginia commonwealth university study.  Excess deaths can only be explained by pandemic.  Actually, covid deaths are under counted because many people are never tested.

    PCR tests are considered the gold standard for diagnosis by US center for disease control.  National institute of health study found PCR tests correctly diagnosed coronavirus in 97% of cases when properly used.

    No proof covid vaccines actually cause any more deaths than normally expected after investigations of VAERS reports.  Statistically inevitable that some people die for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Association isn't causation.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: the total number of deaths in 2020 remained normal.  Not to mention that the PCR test has been proven to be a total fraud. The vaccines have caused more deaths than Covid would have caused during the same period and have now killed more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. 2020 is the deadliest year on record in the US. Over 522,000 more deaths than expected from comparing 5 previous years according to Virginia commonwealth university study.  Excess deaths can only be explained by pandemic.  Actually, covid deaths are under counted because many people are never tested. PCR tests are considered the gold standard for diagnosis by US center for disease control.  National institute of health study found PCR tests correctly diagnosed coronavirus in 97% of cases when properly used. No proof covid vaccines actually cause any more deaths than normally expected after investigations of VAERS reports.  Statistically inevitable that some people die for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Association isn't causation.

    Thanks for the fake news.

    In real news: Fauci and the WHO admit PCR tests don't work. The PCR tests do not detect Sars-Cov2 particles, but particles from any number of viruses you might have contracted in the past. So they don't work to diagnose active infection with covid19. The pandemic is only as real as the test, and the test is fake just like you. Also the CDC admits they have no Delta variant test. So, once the test has been proven to be a fraud, everything you have to say after that is just fake news by a paid government troll. peace_5

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: the total number of deaths in 2020 remained normal.  Not to mention that the PCR test has been proven to be a total fraud. The vaccines have caused more deaths than Covid would have caused during the same period and have now killed more people than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. 2020 is the deadliest year on record in the US. Over 522,000 more deaths than expected from comparing 5 previous years according to Virginia commonwealth university study.  Excess deaths can only be explained by pandemic.  Actually, covid deaths are under counted because many people are never tested. PCR tests are considered the gold standard for diagnosis by US center for disease control.  National institute of health study found PCR tests correctly diagnosed coronavirus in 97% of cases when properly used. No proof covid vaccines actually cause any more deaths than normally expected after investigations of VAERS reports.  Statistically inevitable that some people die for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Association isn't causation.

    Thanks for the fake news.

    In real news: Fauci and the WHO admit PCR tests don't work. The PCR tests do not detect Sars-Cov2 particles, but particles from any number of viruses you might have contracted in the past. So they don't work to diagnose active infection with covid19. The pandemic is only as real as the test, and the test is fake just like you. Also the CDC admits they have no Delta variant test. So, once the test has been proven to be a fraud, everything you have to say after that is just fake news by a paid government troll. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases.

     

    99% survival rate is misleading because it suggests coronavirus is harmless.  Downplaying of over 620,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.

    VAERS disclaimer warns that reports of adverse events are unreliable and unverified. Deaths are over reported by anyone (relatives or lawyers) even if actual cause of death is unrelated to vaccination such as car accident or underlying medical condition.  Investigations reveal no causal link between vaccines and deaths. 

    .

    not to forget millions more who got awful sick , missed paycheques as a result , forced to isolate then pay others to look after children , lost their jobs due to extended illness , huge medical costs for many , unexpected funeral costs for loved ones which is huge burden on lower income families , and continuing documentation of 'long covid' - suffering lingering and debilitating after effects of covid

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity. most of the infected now are fully vaccinated. Even a CDC study (of cases in Cape Cod) admitted that three quarters of new cases are in vaccinated people. That negates the argument that unvaxxed Americans are responsible for any rise in cases.

     

    99% survival rate is misleading because it suggests coronavirus is harmless.  Downplaying of over 620,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.

    VAERS disclaimer warns that reports of adverse events are unreliable and unverified. Deaths are over reported by anyone (relatives or lawyers) even if actual cause of death is unrelated to vaccination such as car accident or underlying medical condition.  Investigations reveal no causal link between vaccines and deaths. 

    .

    not to forget millions more who got awful sick , missed paycheques as a result , forced to isolate then pay others to look after children , lost their jobs due to extended illness , huge medical costs for many , unexpected funeral costs for loved ones which is huge burden on lower income families , and continuing documentation of 'long covid' - suffering lingering and debilitating after effects of covid

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity.

     

     

    Natural infection isn't better than vaccines.

    Risks of death, serious illness and long term consequences outweigh any benefit from natural immunity.

    Vaccines are far safer and provides more consistent protection to larger population in less time.

     

     

    thirdperson is right      as usual   peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: the "cure" is worse than the disease that has a 99.7% survival rate. .  official government reporting system -  list a total of 20,144 deaths and 2,644,488 adverse reactions following Pfizers injections. And these numbers are severely under reported as doctors and other medical personnel are pressured to NOT link these deaths and injuries to the Covid19 shots.  Natural immunity is all you need because it's far superior to vaccine induced immunity.

     

     

    Natural infection isn't better than vaccines.

    Risks of death, serious illness and long term consequences outweigh any benefit from natural immunity.

    Vaccines are far safer and provides more consistent protection to larger population in less time.

     

     

    thirdperson is right      as usual   peace_5

     

     

     

     
     
    KellyM_1964
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to journal Health affairs, Indiana university study found US early vaccination prevents nearly 140,000 deaths and 3 million cases in first 5 months of 2021. 

    Economic value of lives saved amounts to between $625 billion to $1.4 trillion. 

    Thus far, vaccination has been the most reliable means to check the pandemic.

     

    hard to accurately judge the economic value of lives saved but that seems like a fair estimate

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to journal Health affairs, Indiana university study found US early vaccination prevents nearly 140,000 deaths and 3 million cases in first 5 months of 2021. 

    Economic value of lives saved amounts to between $625 billion to $1.4 trillion. 

    Thus far, vaccination has been the most reliable means to check the pandemic.

     

    hard to accurately judge the economic value of lives saved but that seems like a fair estimate

     

     

     

     

     

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