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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 7:58 PM ET #1

    A brilliant independent thinker she felt deeply for.womens rights the second confirmed to the supreme court. 

    God removed and voice.of thought friend of scalia. May they reside in the house of most holy.

    God.Bless America with her time here.

    May we all take a moment of silence as we remember. 

    Where we are she once was and where she is we hope to be. She has passed but will never be forgotten.

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    A brilliant independent thinker she felt deeply for.womens rights the second confirmed to the supreme court. 

    God removed and voice.of thought friend of scalia. May they reside in the house of most holy.

    God.Bless America with her time here.

    May we all take a moment of silence as we remember. 

    Where we are she once was and where she is we hope to be. She has passed but will never be forgotten.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:22 PM ET #2

    Has President Trump sent the name of Amy Coney Barrett to Mitch yet? If not. Let's make it happen and start the grueling political process of replacing RBG asap.

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    Has President Trump sent the name of Amy Coney Barrett to Mitch yet? If not. Let's make it happen and start the grueling political process of replacing RBG asap.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:39 PM ET #3

    Damn sundance....how about a little respect before partisan bullshit.

    The country lost a true patriot.

    peace

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    Damn sundance....how about a little respect before partisan bullshit.

    The country lost a true patriot.

    peace

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:44 PM ET #4

    You're right Midnight1! I am in a hurry to pay the Dems back for their despicable behavior during the Cavanaugh hearings.

    I can wait till RBG is respectfully laid to rest.

    peace

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    You're right Midnight1! I am in a hurry to pay the Dems back for their despicable behavior during the Cavanaugh hearings.

    I can wait till RBG is respectfully laid to rest.

    peace

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:45 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Damn sundance....how about a little respect before partisan bullshit. The country lost a true patriot.

    ya  thumbs_down

    what kinda  @#$%&  would start with the lets make it happen BS before the corpse is even cold

    despicable even for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Damn sundance....how about a little respect before partisan bullshit. The country lost a true patriot.

    ya  thumbs_down

    what kinda  @#$%&  would start with the lets make it happen BS before the corpse is even cold

    despicable even for him

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:56 PM ET #6

    A flurry of activity at The Gateway Pundit regarding the passing of RBG. Dems are basically begging not to start the process of replacing RBG till we have a new President.

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    A flurry of activity at The Gateway Pundit regarding the passing of RBG. Dems are basically begging not to start the process of replacing RBG till we have a new President.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 11:21 PM ET #7

    She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016.

    Just a clown... doing clown things
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    She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 12:04 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You're right Midnight1! I am in a hurry to pay the Dems back for their despicable behavior during the Cavanaugh hearings. I can wait till RBG is respectfully laid to rest.

    Does the name Merrick Garland mean anything to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You're right Midnight1! I am in a hurry to pay the Dems back for their despicable behavior during the Cavanaugh hearings. I can wait till RBG is respectfully laid to rest.

    Does the name Merrick Garland mean anything to you?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 12:11 AM ET #9

    Yes it does Stu. O's pick to replace Scalia if my memory serves me correctly that never went through the process on the Senate floor because of an upcoming election. 

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    Yes it does Stu. O's pick to replace Scalia if my memory serves me correctly that never went through the process on the Senate floor because of an upcoming election. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 12:26 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Damn sundance....how about a little respect before partisan bullshit. The country lost a true patriot. ya  what kinda  @#$%&  would start with the lets make it happen BS before the corpse is even cold despicable even for him

    Ranks right up there with calling fallen US Marines "losers" and "suckers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Damn sundance....how about a little respect before partisan bullshit. The country lost a true patriot. ya  what kinda  @#$%&  would start with the lets make it happen BS before the corpse is even cold despicable even for him

    Ranks right up there with calling fallen US Marines "losers" and "suckers"

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 1:43 AM ET #11

    NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

    Reps will want immediate replacement of RBG.

    Dems will want to wait until Presidential Election complete.

    Mitch McConnell: "I promise a new confirmation ASAP"

    Joe Biden: "RGB wishes were to wait until after the election for a new confirmation"

    NOTHING NEW HERE !!!

     

     

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    NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

    Reps will want immediate replacement of RBG.

    Dems will want to wait until Presidential Election complete.

    Mitch McConnell: "I promise a new confirmation ASAP"

    Joe Biden: "RGB wishes were to wait until after the election for a new confirmation"

    NOTHING NEW HERE !!!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 1:47 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016.

    I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html

    6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016.

    I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html

    6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM.

    Well, yes and no.

    If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM.

    Well, yes and no.

    If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. Well, yes and no. If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12.

    First thing first, buddy, Dems has to sweep in Nov. 3. Secondary, Dems has to make the size of SCOTUS to 12 just to to get even, 11 seems not enough with 6-5 still in favor of GOP. Besides 12 is an even number, so not likely it will set well for the number of Justices to rule an opinion, I suppose. So, it would need to expand the number to 13 Justices in SCOTUS, in that 7-6 will favor the Dems.    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. Well, yes and no. If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12.

    First thing first, buddy, Dems has to sweep in Nov. 3. Secondary, Dems has to make the size of SCOTUS to 12 just to to get even, 11 seems not enough with 6-5 still in favor of GOP. Besides 12 is an even number, so not likely it will set well for the number of Justices to rule an opinion, I suppose. So, it would need to expand the number to 13 Justices in SCOTUS, in that 7-6 will favor the Dems.    

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. Well, yes and no. If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12. First thing first, buddy, Dems has to sweep in Nov. 3. Secondary, Dems has to make the size of SCOTUS to 12 just to to get even, 11 seems not enough with 6-5 still in favor of GOP. Besides 12 is an even number, so not likely it will set well for the number of Justices to rule an opinion, I suppose. So, it would need to expand the number to 13 Justices in SCOTUS, in that 7-6 will favor the Dems.

    Well in theory yes, though as an Independent/Moderate, personally I am OK with the current status quo if there was a Liberal to replace RBG.  But since it will be a Conservative, then SCOTUS needs to increase by 2 Liberals after Biden is sworn in to achieve the same status quo we have today - which has been surprisingly FAIR in recent judgements, imo.

    But sure they could stack it further.

    Dems are currently in decent position to win back the Senate majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. Well, yes and no. If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12. First thing first, buddy, Dems has to sweep in Nov. 3. Secondary, Dems has to make the size of SCOTUS to 12 just to to get even, 11 seems not enough with 6-5 still in favor of GOP. Besides 12 is an even number, so not likely it will set well for the number of Justices to rule an opinion, I suppose. So, it would need to expand the number to 13 Justices in SCOTUS, in that 7-6 will favor the Dems.

    Well in theory yes, though as an Independent/Moderate, personally I am OK with the current status quo if there was a Liberal to replace RBG.  But since it will be a Conservative, then SCOTUS needs to increase by 2 Liberals after Biden is sworn in to achieve the same status quo we have today - which has been surprisingly FAIR in recent judgements, imo.

    But sure they could stack it further.

    Dems are currently in decent position to win back the Senate majority.

     
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    No significant change overall since August 13:

    The good guys are 3 net seats short of a 50/50 split in the Senate
    which they would effectively control with tie votes cast by Kamala Harris.
    Dems likely lose a seat in ruby-red Alabama to popular Tuberville.
    So DEMS must win 4 others.
    Here's how those other key SENATE races are shaping up:

    +6.7 ARIZONA - Mark Kelly (D) over loser *Martha McSally
    +3.6 N.CAROLINA - Cunningham (D) over *Tillis
    +5.2 MAINE - Sara Gideon (D) over outdated *Susan Collins
    +8.0 COLORADO - Gov. Hickenlooper (D) over *Gardner

    +0.2 IOWA - Greenfield (D) vs *Joni Ernst

    - 2 MONTANA - Governor Bullock (D) vs *Daines
    - 1 KANSAS - Bollier (D) vs Marshall (R)

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    No significant change overall since August 13:

    The good guys are 3 net seats short of a 50/50 split in the Senate
    which they would effectively control with tie votes cast by Kamala Harris.
    Dems likely lose a seat in ruby-red Alabama to popular Tuberville.
    So DEMS must win 4 others.
    Here's how those other key SENATE races are shaping up:

    +6.7 ARIZONA - Mark Kelly (D) over loser *Martha McSally
    +3.6 N.CAROLINA - Cunningham (D) over *Tillis
    +5.2 MAINE - Sara Gideon (D) over outdated *Susan Collins
    +8.0 COLORADO - Gov. Hickenlooper (D) over *Gardner

    +0.2 IOWA - Greenfield (D) vs *Joni Ernst

    - 2 MONTANA - Governor Bullock (D) vs *Daines
    - 1 KANSAS - Bollier (D) vs Marshall (R)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. Well, yes and no. If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12. First thing first, buddy, Dems has to sweep in Nov. 3. Secondary, Dems has to make the size of SCOTUS to 12 just to to get even, 11 seems not enough with 6-5 still in favor of GOP. Besides 12 is an even number, so not likely it will set well for the number of Justices to rule an opinion, I suppose. So, it would need to expand the number to 13 Justices in SCOTUS, in that 7-6 will favor the Dems. Well in theory yes, though as an Independent/Moderate, personally I am OK with the current status quo if there was a Liberal to replace RBG.  But since it will be a Conservative, then SCOTUS needs to increase by 2 Liberals after Biden is sworn in to achieve the same status quo we have today - which has been surprisingly FAIR in recent judgements, imo. But sure they could stack it further. Dems are currently in decent position to win back the Senate majority.

    That's the first thing first, but we will witness Grim Reaper jamming in a GOP SCOTUS nominee ASAP. Well, it's hard for Amy McGrath to unseat Grim Reaper but Dems need to get Grim Reaper off as the Senate majority leader in Nov. 3.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: She will not be replaced until after the election.  It's too close to an election for vulnerable Republicans to make a move like this considering what happened in 2016. I am not sure about that, Mitch McConnell said in a statement in Friday that he will hold a vote on Pres. Trump's nominee to replace late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Not likely it will happen before Nov. 3, but McConnell can jam the replacement in if GOP gets a nominee. GOP gets the upper hand, 53-47 in the Senate, it's just a plain shoe-in.   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/18/trump-nominee-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-on-supreme-court-will-get-senate-vote-mcconnell-says.html 6:3 in favor of GOP in the SCOTUS? It appears game over for the Democrats in many decades to come, welcome to the land of the RIGHT and CONSERVATISM. Well, yes and no. If the Dems get the senate back in November or in 2022, they can INCREASE the size of SCOTUS likely from from 9 to 11 or 12. First thing first, buddy, Dems has to sweep in Nov. 3. Secondary, Dems has to make the size of SCOTUS to 12 just to to get even, 11 seems not enough with 6-5 still in favor of GOP. Besides 12 is an even number, so not likely it will set well for the number of Justices to rule an opinion, I suppose. So, it would need to expand the number to 13 Justices in SCOTUS, in that 7-6 will favor the Dems. Well in theory yes, though as an Independent/Moderate, personally I am OK with the current status quo if there was a Liberal to replace RBG.  But since it will be a Conservative, then SCOTUS needs to increase by 2 Liberals after Biden is sworn in to achieve the same status quo we have today - which has been surprisingly FAIR in recent judgements, imo. But sure they could stack it further. Dems are currently in decent position to win back the Senate majority.

    That's the first thing first, but we will witness Grim Reaper jamming in a GOP SCOTUS nominee ASAP. Well, it's hard for Amy McGrath to unseat Grim Reaper but Dems need to get Grim Reaper off as the Senate majority leader in Nov. 3.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Yes it does Stu. O's pick to replace Scalia if my memory serves me correctly that never went through the process on the Senate floor because of an upcoming election.

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    Yes it does Stu. O's pick to replace Scalia if my memory serves me correctly that never went through the process on the Senate floor because of an upcoming election.

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    #remember in November.  Time democrats enciromentalists and liberal.mineded citizens come together and embrace Biden Harris ticket.

    Yes the Republican lead Senate will be in a rush to runner stamp what ever the drone Trump puts in office. Over night Gideon gained 3 points here in Maine.  

    Collins will be defeated here in Maine. The court may appear to become more conservative for the moment but a switch in time saved the nine when democrats take.conyrol of.both houses and the presidency a conservative court will be all that is left to have any balance in washington.

    I can live with this 20 year reign of democrats in legislature and presidency and a 15 year reign of conservative principled court.

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    #remember in November.  Time democrats enciromentalists and liberal.mineded citizens come together and embrace Biden Harris ticket.

    Yes the Republican lead Senate will be in a rush to runner stamp what ever the drone Trump puts in office. Over night Gideon gained 3 points here in Maine.  

    Collins will be defeated here in Maine. The court may appear to become more conservative for the moment but a switch in time saved the nine when democrats take.conyrol of.both houses and the presidency a conservative court will be all that is left to have any balance in washington.

    I can live with this 20 year reign of democrats in legislature and presidency and a 15 year reign of conservative principled court.

     
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    Today, our Nation mourns the loss of a titan of the law. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg served more than 27 years as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States—notably just the second woman to be appointed to the Court. She was a loving wife to her late husband, Martin, and a dedicated mother to her two children.

    Renowned for her brilliant mind and her powerful dissents at the Supreme Court, Justice Ginsburg demonstrated that one can disagree without being disagreeable toward one’s colleagues or different points of view. Her opinions, including well-known decisions regarding the legal equality of women and the disabled, have inspired all Americans, and generations of great legal minds.

    A fighter to the end, Justice Ginsburg battled cancer, and other very long odds, throughout her remarkable life. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Ginsburg family and their loved ones during this difficult time. May her memory be a great and magnificent blessing to the world.”

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    Today, our Nation mourns the loss of a titan of the law. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg served more than 27 years as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States—notably just the second woman to be appointed to the Court. She was a loving wife to her late husband, Martin, and a dedicated mother to her two children.

    Renowned for her brilliant mind and her powerful dissents at the Supreme Court, Justice Ginsburg demonstrated that one can disagree without being disagreeable toward one’s colleagues or different points of view. Her opinions, including well-known decisions regarding the legal equality of women and the disabled, have inspired all Americans, and generations of great legal minds.

    A fighter to the end, Justice Ginsburg battled cancer, and other very long odds, throughout her remarkable life. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Ginsburg family and their loved ones during this difficult time. May her memory be a great and magnificent blessing to the world.”

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    Relationship between Scalia and Ginsburg.

    June 22nd 2015.

    Los Angeles Times. 

    David Savage writer.

    Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia seem unlikely friends.

    Though both grew up in New York City and graduated from Ivy League law schools, Scalia went on to become a lawyer in the Nixon administration and a founder of the conservative Federalist Society, and Ginsburg led the women’s rights project at the American Civil Liberties Union

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    He’s brash and burly and believes in strict adherence to the Constitution’s original text. She’s soft-spoken and slight and believes in a “living Constitution” that can change with the times. On controversial cases, they are often the most likely of any pairing of the nine Supreme Court justices to disagree.

    Despite their standing as the intellectual lions of the left and right, Ginsburg and Scalia have forged an uncommon bond on a court where close friendships outside of chambers are rare

    Their areas of agreement may be few — which is likely to be the case this month when the justices decide whether gay and lesbian couples have a right to marry — but they maintain a tone of respect.

    Scalia, 79, and Ginsburg, 82, frequently dine and vacation together. Every Dec. 31, they ring in the new year together. Their relationship has even inspired an opera, set to debut this summer.

    In joint appearances, their mutual affinity and gentle joshing delight audiences, particularly at a time of bitter partisan differences that have made friendships across the aisle difficult.

    “Call us the odd couple,” Scalia said this year at a George Washington University event with Ginsburg. “She likes opera, and she’s a very nice person. What’s not to like?” he said dryly. “Except her views on the law.”

    Seated next to Ginsburg on the stage, Scalia teased her about the minor uproar that occurred after they were photographed together on an elephant during a trip to India in 1994. “Her feminist friends” were upset, Scalia said, that “she rode behind me.

    Ginsburg didn’t let him have the last word, noting that the elephant driver had said their placement was “a matter of distribution of weight.” The audience, including Scalia, roared with laughter.

    She describes her fondness for “Nino” by recalling the time she first heard him speak at a law conference, before they became judges. “I disagreed with most of what he said, but I loved the way he said it,” Ginsburg recounted.

    The pair met in the early 1980s as judges on the U.S. appeals court in Washington; Scalia joined the Supreme Court in 1986 and Ginsburg followed in 1993.

    He may have even played a small role in her appointment.

    With President Clinton pondering his first nomination to the high court, Democrats were anxious to find someone who could do battle on equal terms with the court’s dominant conservatives.

    A story went around Washington legal circles that Scalia’s clerks had asked him at lunch: “If you had to spend the rest of your days arguing with Mario Cuomo or Laurence Tribe, who would you choose?” The New York governor and the Harvard law professor were being talked about as leading candidates.

    Scalia supposedly replied, “Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

     

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    June 22nd 2015.

    Los Angeles Times. 

    David Savage writer.

    Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia seem unlikely friends.

    Though both grew up in New York City and graduated from Ivy League law schools, Scalia went on to become a lawyer in the Nixon administration and a founder of the conservative Federalist Society, and Ginsburg led the women’s rights project at the American Civil Liberties Union

    .

    He’s brash and burly and believes in strict adherence to the Constitution’s original text. She’s soft-spoken and slight and believes in a “living Constitution” that can change with the times. On controversial cases, they are often the most likely of any pairing of the nine Supreme Court justices to disagree.

    Despite their standing as the intellectual lions of the left and right, Ginsburg and Scalia have forged an uncommon bond on a court where close friendships outside of chambers are rare

    Their areas of agreement may be few — which is likely to be the case this month when the justices decide whether gay and lesbian couples have a right to marry — but they maintain a tone of respect.

    Scalia, 79, and Ginsburg, 82, frequently dine and vacation together. Every Dec. 31, they ring in the new year together. Their relationship has even inspired an opera, set to debut this summer.

    In joint appearances, their mutual affinity and gentle joshing delight audiences, particularly at a time of bitter partisan differences that have made friendships across the aisle difficult.

    “Call us the odd couple,” Scalia said this year at a George Washington University event with Ginsburg. “She likes opera, and she’s a very nice person. What’s not to like?” he said dryly. “Except her views on the law.”

    Seated next to Ginsburg on the stage, Scalia teased her about the minor uproar that occurred after they were photographed together on an elephant during a trip to India in 1994. “Her feminist friends” were upset, Scalia said, that “she rode behind me.

    Ginsburg didn’t let him have the last word, noting that the elephant driver had said their placement was “a matter of distribution of weight.” The audience, including Scalia, roared with laughter.

    She describes her fondness for “Nino” by recalling the time she first heard him speak at a law conference, before they became judges. “I disagreed with most of what he said, but I loved the way he said it,” Ginsburg recounted.

    The pair met in the early 1980s as judges on the U.S. appeals court in Washington; Scalia joined the Supreme Court in 1986 and Ginsburg followed in 1993.

    He may have even played a small role in her appointment.

    With President Clinton pondering his first nomination to the high court, Democrats were anxious to find someone who could do battle on equal terms with the court’s dominant conservatives.

    A story went around Washington legal circles that Scalia’s clerks had asked him at lunch: “If you had to spend the rest of your days arguing with Mario Cuomo or Laurence Tribe, who would you choose?” The New York governor and the Harvard law professor were being talked about as leading candidates.

    Scalia supposedly replied, “Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

     

     
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    A few weeks later, the president announced her as his choice.

    Lisa Blatt, a lawyer who argues regularly before the high court, said the judges had been close back when she clerked for Ginsburg in 1990. When Ginsburg’s husband, Martin, and several clerks arranged a small party to celebrate her 10th year on the appeals court, only one justice came by: Scalia.

    Their friendship, Blatt said, is based on mutual respect and common interests that transcend their ideological differences.

    “I don’t think they even try to influence each other,” Blatt said. “Both of them simply have huge personalities, love the arts, like to laugh and are brilliant.”

    Ideology aside, Scalia has said he and Ginsburg are “legal academics” who appreciate good writing and well-reasoned arguments. He once recalled that as a new appellate judge, he sometimes sent colleagues memos critiquing their reasoning in a particular opinion. Most often, he said, his missives were not appreciated.

    But Ginsburg, who had taught at Columbia University before joining the District of Columbia Circuit, was glad to debate and welcomed his comments.

    Their off-the-bench friendship grew over time, aided by Ginsburg’s husband. By day he was a Georgetown law professor and one of the nation’s foremost experts on tax law. But, outgoing and funny, he also was an extraordinary self-taught chef. When Scalia and his wife, Maureen, came for dinner at the Ginsburgs’ Watergate apartment, part of the attraction was the meal Marty prepared.

    Shortly after her husband died of cancer in June 2010, Justice Ginsburg came to the court to deliver an opinion. As she spoke, Scalia sat a few feet away, wiping tears.

    Other justices do socialize after hours: Justice Elena Kagan has gone hunting with Scalia and to the theater with Ginsburg, and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Anthony M. Kennedy have been seen together at Washington Nationals games. But the Ginsburg-Scalia bond is special.

    “She has very warm feelings” for him, said Samuel Bagenstos, a University of Michigan law professor who clerked for Ginsburg. “There is a personal connection with him unlike any of the other justices.”

    That friendship has done little to shade or soften their legal views. Scalia has never mocked her opinions in the way that he wrote dismissively of, for example, former Justice Sandra Day O’Connor or Kennedy. But their areas of agreement are few

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    A few weeks later, the president announced her as his choice.

    Lisa Blatt, a lawyer who argues regularly before the high court, said the judges had been close back when she clerked for Ginsburg in 1990. When Ginsburg’s husband, Martin, and several clerks arranged a small party to celebrate her 10th year on the appeals court, only one justice came by: Scalia.

    Their friendship, Blatt said, is based on mutual respect and common interests that transcend their ideological differences.

    “I don’t think they even try to influence each other,” Blatt said. “Both of them simply have huge personalities, love the arts, like to laugh and are brilliant.”

    Ideology aside, Scalia has said he and Ginsburg are “legal academics” who appreciate good writing and well-reasoned arguments. He once recalled that as a new appellate judge, he sometimes sent colleagues memos critiquing their reasoning in a particular opinion. Most often, he said, his missives were not appreciated.

    But Ginsburg, who had taught at Columbia University before joining the District of Columbia Circuit, was glad to debate and welcomed his comments.

    Their off-the-bench friendship grew over time, aided by Ginsburg’s husband. By day he was a Georgetown law professor and one of the nation’s foremost experts on tax law. But, outgoing and funny, he also was an extraordinary self-taught chef. When Scalia and his wife, Maureen, came for dinner at the Ginsburgs’ Watergate apartment, part of the attraction was the meal Marty prepared.

    Shortly after her husband died of cancer in June 2010, Justice Ginsburg came to the court to deliver an opinion. As she spoke, Scalia sat a few feet away, wiping tears.

    Other justices do socialize after hours: Justice Elena Kagan has gone hunting with Scalia and to the theater with Ginsburg, and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Anthony M. Kennedy have been seen together at Washington Nationals games. But the Ginsburg-Scalia bond is special.

    “She has very warm feelings” for him, said Samuel Bagenstos, a University of Michigan law professor who clerked for Ginsburg. “There is a personal connection with him unlike any of the other justices.”

    That friendship has done little to shade or soften their legal views. Scalia has never mocked her opinions in the way that he wrote dismissively of, for example, former Justice Sandra Day O’Connor or Kennedy. But their areas of agreement are few

     
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    Though all the justices typically agree in about three-fourths of cases involving issues like bankruptcy, patents or legal procedure, Scalia and Ginsburg regularly are on opposite sides in matters that divide the nation — including abortion, affirmative action, campaign funding, the death penalty, the environment, gay rights and gun rights.

    In summer 2012, when the court ended with a close split on President Obama’s healthcare law and Arizona’s strict immigration law, Scalia and Ginsburg had agreed in 56% of the term’s cases — the lowest rate of any two justices. When only the 5-4 decisions were included, they agreed just 7% of the time.

    Ginsburg believes the Constitution’s guarantee of “equal protection” of the laws must evolve with society. In the 1970s, that meant an end to gender discrimination. And this term, she is almost certain to vote in favor of an equal right to marry for gay and lesbian couples

    Scalia insists the Constitution should be interpreted the way its original writers would have understood it. By that standard, he says, no one would say the 14th Amendment in 1868 was adopted to forbid discrimination against gays.

    “They have a very different vision of the Constitution and its protection for liberty and equality,” said Duke law professor Neil Siegel. “If Justice Scalia had his way, he would go a long way to destroying her life’s work in sexual equality, abortion, pregnancy discrimination.”

    When Ginsburg in 1996 wrote her first major opinion and ruled that the Virginia Military Institute and other all-male public colleges must open their doors to qualified women, Scalia wrote the lone dissent.

    And even today, he insists he was right. He told the George Washington University audience that the military service academies have lost their luster as training grounds for “warriors” now that women are enrolled.

    “That argument won’t work, Nino,” Ginsburg said, noting that most VMI graduates did not join the military.

    Later, when Ginsburg insisted the court’s constitutional decisions should reflect changing social attitudes, Scalia objected. “We’re not going to agree on this, Ruth,” he said.

    After the court adjourns for the summer, the pair’s unusual friendship will be on display in a comic opera called “Scalia/Ginsburg: A (Gentle) Parody of Operatic Proportions.” Its composer, Derrick Wang, said he discovered a truly operatic character when he read Scalia’s dissents as a law student at the University of Maryland.

    “Whenever I encountered the phrase — ‘Scalia J., dissenting’ — I would hear in my head a rage aria. That’s a type of aria where the character is incensed and expresses anger. It’s a fitting way to introduce Justice Scalia as passionate, disgruntled and rooted in the 18th century,” Wang said.

    The opera will premiere July 11 at the Castleton Festival in northern Virginia. It opens with the Scalia character singing, “The justices are blind. The Constitution says nothing about this!” But when he is imprisoned for “excessive dissenting,” help arrives in the form of Ginsburg — breaking through a glass ceiling to rescue him.

    Ginsburg plans to attend the premiere. It is “for me a dream come true. If I could choose the talent I would most like to have, it would be a glorious voice. I would be a great diva, perhaps Renata Tebaldi or Beverly Sills,” she wrote in a foreword to the opera. “But my grade school music teacher, with brutal honesty, rated me a sparrow, not a robin.”

    As usual, Scalia sees it a bit differently. “I could have been a contendah — for a divus, or whatever a male diva is called,” he wrote in response. He said he has sung in choral groups and once “joined the two tenors from the Washington Opera singing various songs at the piano.... I suppose, however, it would be too much to expect the author of ‘Scalia/Ginsburg’ to allow me to play (sing) myself. Even so, it may be a good show.”

     

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    Though all the justices typically agree in about three-fourths of cases involving issues like bankruptcy, patents or legal procedure, Scalia and Ginsburg regularly are on opposite sides in matters that divide the nation — including abortion, affirmative action, campaign funding, the death penalty, the environment, gay rights and gun rights.

    In summer 2012, when the court ended with a close split on President Obama’s healthcare law and Arizona’s strict immigration law, Scalia and Ginsburg had agreed in 56% of the term’s cases — the lowest rate of any two justices. When only the 5-4 decisions were included, they agreed just 7% of the time.

    Ginsburg believes the Constitution’s guarantee of “equal protection” of the laws must evolve with society. In the 1970s, that meant an end to gender discrimination. And this term, she is almost certain to vote in favor of an equal right to marry for gay and lesbian couples

    Scalia insists the Constitution should be interpreted the way its original writers would have understood it. By that standard, he says, no one would say the 14th Amendment in 1868 was adopted to forbid discrimination against gays.

    “They have a very different vision of the Constitution and its protection for liberty and equality,” said Duke law professor Neil Siegel. “If Justice Scalia had his way, he would go a long way to destroying her life’s work in sexual equality, abortion, pregnancy discrimination.”

    When Ginsburg in 1996 wrote her first major opinion and ruled that the Virginia Military Institute and other all-male public colleges must open their doors to qualified women, Scalia wrote the lone dissent.

    And even today, he insists he was right. He told the George Washington University audience that the military service academies have lost their luster as training grounds for “warriors” now that women are enrolled.

    “That argument won’t work, Nino,” Ginsburg said, noting that most VMI graduates did not join the military.

    Later, when Ginsburg insisted the court’s constitutional decisions should reflect changing social attitudes, Scalia objected. “We’re not going to agree on this, Ruth,” he said.

    After the court adjourns for the summer, the pair’s unusual friendship will be on display in a comic opera called “Scalia/Ginsburg: A (Gentle) Parody of Operatic Proportions.” Its composer, Derrick Wang, said he discovered a truly operatic character when he read Scalia’s dissents as a law student at the University of Maryland.

    “Whenever I encountered the phrase — ‘Scalia J., dissenting’ — I would hear in my head a rage aria. That’s a type of aria where the character is incensed and expresses anger. It’s a fitting way to introduce Justice Scalia as passionate, disgruntled and rooted in the 18th century,” Wang said.

    The opera will premiere July 11 at the Castleton Festival in northern Virginia. It opens with the Scalia character singing, “The justices are blind. The Constitution says nothing about this!” But when he is imprisoned for “excessive dissenting,” help arrives in the form of Ginsburg — breaking through a glass ceiling to rescue him.

    Ginsburg plans to attend the premiere. It is “for me a dream come true. If I could choose the talent I would most like to have, it would be a glorious voice. I would be a great diva, perhaps Renata Tebaldi or Beverly Sills,” she wrote in a foreword to the opera. “But my grade school music teacher, with brutal honesty, rated me a sparrow, not a robin.”

    As usual, Scalia sees it a bit differently. “I could have been a contendah — for a divus, or whatever a male diva is called,” he wrote in response. He said he has sung in choral groups and once “joined the two tenors from the Washington Opera singing various songs at the piano.... I suppose, however, it would be too much to expect the author of ‘Scalia/Ginsburg’ to allow me to play (sing) myself. Even so, it may be a good show.”

     

     
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    Scalia died Feb 2016.

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