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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 12:48 AM ET #176

    2 of the 3 wives of djt are immigrants,proof that we need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans won’t.

    cool

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    2 of the 3 wives of djt are immigrants,proof that we need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans won’t.

    cool

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 1:43 AM ET #177

    @soup-can

     Oh I know exactly why you didn't answer,and it's got nothing to do with you not wanting to go down that shit show road that I call my mind (whatever the fuck that mumbo jumbo means).It's because you know that nobody would sit there for 7 minutes if their family was being attacked,unless they were a complete coward.And you know you can't possibly try and convince me that you would,without being called a complete coward by everyone on this site.And you also know George shouldn't have done it either.But you just don't have the balls to admit it,so you keep jumping through hoops trying to make excuses for him.

    So you are saying what happened on Jan 6th is ok,because some KIDS did something like it at Woodstock?And do point out to me where I have said that any riots,looting,or burning of cities is ok in my woke eyes.I'd really like you to find that statement that I supposedly said.Two things you are right about though is that when I give out comparison's I do like to sound smart,and I do think some of your comparison's are nonsense.You say that "The riots and fires at Woodstock were from the crowd pissed off from being taken advantage of by the powers that be and revolted.Same story line with Jan 6th except that involved law makers instead of concert promoters.Same could be said with the riots/looting/burning the city of Minneapolis down after George Floyd.The crowd was sick of the shit and revolted,but that's ok in your woke eyes".Since you are talking about it,and haven't said anything negative about either of the 3 scenarios.I kinda gotta assume that you are totally ok with it in your woke eyes,since I haven't heard anything different from you.You seem to be excusing and making excuses for everybody that was involved in all 3 cases.So in your eyes nobody was wrong on Jan 6th,or the kids weren't wrong at Woodstock for rioting and starting fires,and nobody was wrong during the George Floyd riots/looting/burning down of cities.Just as long as they were sick of shit and revolting,you are ok with what all of them did?

    No the misspelling of my state didn't really bother me,I could care less if you can spell.I wouldn't of even commented on your post if that's all there was.You lying about people being forced to do something when I knew it wasn't true,is the only reason I commented on your post at all.You definitely can't reason with crazy people,they do and I do have hate and anger issues when it comes to certain things.You are better off just walking away,cause you ain't gonna win an argument against people like that.You think maybe it's a good guess that I'm a radical teacher?Just so you know,you couldn't be any further from the truth on that one.

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     Oh I know exactly why you didn't answer,and it's got nothing to do with you not wanting to go down that shit show road that I call my mind (whatever the fuck that mumbo jumbo means).It's because you know that nobody would sit there for 7 minutes if their family was being attacked,unless they were a complete coward.And you know you can't possibly try and convince me that you would,without being called a complete coward by everyone on this site.And you also know George shouldn't have done it either.But you just don't have the balls to admit it,so you keep jumping through hoops trying to make excuses for him.

    So you are saying what happened on Jan 6th is ok,because some KIDS did something like it at Woodstock?And do point out to me where I have said that any riots,looting,or burning of cities is ok in my woke eyes.I'd really like you to find that statement that I supposedly said.Two things you are right about though is that when I give out comparison's I do like to sound smart,and I do think some of your comparison's are nonsense.You say that "The riots and fires at Woodstock were from the crowd pissed off from being taken advantage of by the powers that be and revolted.Same story line with Jan 6th except that involved law makers instead of concert promoters.Same could be said with the riots/looting/burning the city of Minneapolis down after George Floyd.The crowd was sick of the shit and revolted,but that's ok in your woke eyes".Since you are talking about it,and haven't said anything negative about either of the 3 scenarios.I kinda gotta assume that you are totally ok with it in your woke eyes,since I haven't heard anything different from you.You seem to be excusing and making excuses for everybody that was involved in all 3 cases.So in your eyes nobody was wrong on Jan 6th,or the kids weren't wrong at Woodstock for rioting and starting fires,and nobody was wrong during the George Floyd riots/looting/burning down of cities.Just as long as they were sick of shit and revolting,you are ok with what all of them did?

    No the misspelling of my state didn't really bother me,I could care less if you can spell.I wouldn't of even commented on your post if that's all there was.You lying about people being forced to do something when I knew it wasn't true,is the only reason I commented on your post at all.You definitely can't reason with crazy people,they do and I do have hate and anger issues when it comes to certain things.You are better off just walking away,cause you ain't gonna win an argument against people like that.You think maybe it's a good guess that I'm a radical teacher?Just so you know,you couldn't be any further from the truth on that one.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 1:57 AM ET #178

    @Rush51

     You don't think I could kill you with a flagpole or fire extinguisher,or even a campaign sign?

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    @Rush51

     You don't think I could kill you with a flagpole or fire extinguisher,or even a campaign sign?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 2:01 AM ET #179

    @Rush51

     Not that I would,but you don't think somebody could use deadly force with any of those objects you mentioned?

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     Not that I would,but you don't think somebody could use deadly force with any of those objects you mentioned?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 2:08 AM ET #180

    @MrWhatsItToYa

     well, the truth is, all you are doing is just copy/paste my text and spinning it to your nonsense.  You want to talk about a timeline, let's use Sleepy Joes current fumble.

    The attack on Jordan happened early Sunday morning, Jan 28th.  Joe said on Tuesday 2 days later!!!  He has decided what his response will be.  More than 20 injured BUT 3 dead soldiers all from Georgia, the names were released on radio on Monday afternoon.  So Our Commander in Chief should've had those names long before his afternoon nap on Monday afternoon.

    He waited till Tuesday morning to call the families of the fallen, and he STILL has yet to REPOND.  So lets see that timeline again...

    GWB was 7 minutes you claim

    DJT was 3 hours, again your rant numbers

    FJB is now on DAY 3 with NO RESPONSE YET and waited 48 hours to phone the families of the fallen.   I guess he thought it was a telegram from back in the old days of wwII until someone reminded his he had to make 3 phone calls.

    Ironically Hezbollah said they are halting attacks against the US after the strike, too little too late guys.  Lets just see how weak Joe is, he has no problem with a proxy war with Putin but doesn't even flinch when our own go down.

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    @MrWhatsItToYa

     well, the truth is, all you are doing is just copy/paste my text and spinning it to your nonsense.  You want to talk about a timeline, let's use Sleepy Joes current fumble.

    The attack on Jordan happened early Sunday morning, Jan 28th.  Joe said on Tuesday 2 days later!!!  He has decided what his response will be.  More than 20 injured BUT 3 dead soldiers all from Georgia, the names were released on radio on Monday afternoon.  So Our Commander in Chief should've had those names long before his afternoon nap on Monday afternoon.

    He waited till Tuesday morning to call the families of the fallen, and he STILL has yet to REPOND.  So lets see that timeline again...

    GWB was 7 minutes you claim

    DJT was 3 hours, again your rant numbers

    FJB is now on DAY 3 with NO RESPONSE YET and waited 48 hours to phone the families of the fallen.   I guess he thought it was a telegram from back in the old days of wwII until someone reminded his he had to make 3 phone calls.

    Ironically Hezbollah said they are halting attacks against the US after the strike, too little too late guys.  Lets just see how weak Joe is, he has no problem with a proxy war with Putin but doesn't even flinch when our own go down.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 2:16 AM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.  

    Sanctuary is a myth.  Illegal immigrants aren't protected against deportation in sanctuary cities.  Police can also arrest them if they commit local crimes.  Police just aren't legally obligated to help federal law enforcement because that isn't their responsibility.  But ugly political stunt for Texas to ship people to cities that haven't agreed to accept them.  Better solutions are more government aid for cities and immigration reforms to fix broken system.  Experts say expanding legal immigration is the most effective solution that doesn't involve crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.  

    Sanctuary is a myth.  Illegal immigrants aren't protected against deportation in sanctuary cities.  Police can also arrest them if they commit local crimes.  Police just aren't legally obligated to help federal law enforcement because that isn't their responsibility.  But ugly political stunt for Texas to ship people to cities that haven't agreed to accept them.  Better solutions are more government aid for cities and immigration reforms to fix broken system.  Experts say expanding legal immigration is the most effective solution that doesn't involve crimes against humanity.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 2:44 AM ET #182

    So the reason for this insanity is because I used the word "forced"

    one word set you off on a tantrum, and you feel like that is ok just because it's an online forum.  Now I wonder why the word forced set you off.  Was it you were forced to do stuff you never wanted to do?  Or where you the enforcer, maybe you were charged with forcible "whatever"?  This one makes sense.

    like Bill Clinton with Monica... It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is?

    Come on spill it keyboard warrior, what's your deal with that word that set you off?  It's not that you wanted to prove me wrong, this goes way beyond that.  You 

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    So the reason for this insanity is because I used the word "forced"

    one word set you off on a tantrum, and you feel like that is ok just because it's an online forum.  Now I wonder why the word forced set you off.  Was it you were forced to do stuff you never wanted to do?  Or where you the enforcer, maybe you were charged with forcible "whatever"?  This one makes sense.

    like Bill Clinton with Monica... It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is?

    Come on spill it keyboard warrior, what's your deal with that word that set you off?  It's not that you wanted to prove me wrong, this goes way beyond that.  You 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 3:39 AM ET #183

    @soup-can

     I must think copy and paste means something completely different.Where have I even copied and pasted one single thing from you,or to you in my responses,let me know the post number I supposedly did that in.All I'm going on is things you have stated in your responses.

    Ok lets use Joe's current fumble.Let's compare that to trump and 4 soldiers getting killed in Niger Africa under trumps watch.It took trump 12 days from the death of the 4 soldiers and trumps 1st public acknowledgement of them,and he only did so after being questioned by a reporter.You said Biden had decided 2 days later what his response would be.It's been over 7 years from the Niger incident for trump,and he's never responded or retaliated for the 4 soldiers deaths once.So much for you guys claiming trump is so tough that other countries fear him and wouldn't do anything to our country militarily because of the fear they have of him.Someone ambushed and killed 4 of our service men and trump did absolutely nothing,mmm sounds just like Jan 6th and his doing nothing about us being attacked.Talk about nobody even flinching when our own go down. 

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     I must think copy and paste means something completely different.Where have I even copied and pasted one single thing from you,or to you in my responses,let me know the post number I supposedly did that in.All I'm going on is things you have stated in your responses.

    Ok lets use Joe's current fumble.Let's compare that to trump and 4 soldiers getting killed in Niger Africa under trumps watch.It took trump 12 days from the death of the 4 soldiers and trumps 1st public acknowledgement of them,and he only did so after being questioned by a reporter.You said Biden had decided 2 days later what his response would be.It's been over 7 years from the Niger incident for trump,and he's never responded or retaliated for the 4 soldiers deaths once.So much for you guys claiming trump is so tough that other countries fear him and wouldn't do anything to our country militarily because of the fear they have of him.Someone ambushed and killed 4 of our service men and trump did absolutely nothing,mmm sounds just like Jan 6th and his doing nothing about us being attacked.Talk about nobody even flinching when our own go down. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2024 - 4:05 AM ET #184

    So now you spin it, first it was 3 hours trump but because of this new debacle for Joe you throw out something that hasn't been discussed yet.  Thats called deflecting, and you haven't yet offered your opinion on these 3 soldiers either.  Show some sympathy for the fallen.

    side note, you really should put two spaces after a period.  I don't want to be like you, but your punctuation has been less than 8th grade workan_timeout

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    So now you spin it, first it was 3 hours trump but because of this new debacle for Joe you throw out something that hasn't been discussed yet.  Thats called deflecting, and you haven't yet offered your opinion on these 3 soldiers either.  Show some sympathy for the fallen.

    side note, you really should put two spaces after a period.  I don't want to be like you, but your punctuation has been less than 8th grade workan_timeout

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    So the reason for this insanity is because I used the word "forced" one word set you off on a tantrum, and you feel like that is ok just because it's an online forum.  Now I wonder why the word forced set you off.  Was it you were forced to do stuff you never wanted to do?  Or where you the enforcer, maybe you were charged with forcible "whatever"?  This one makes sense. like Bill Clinton with Monica... It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is? Come on spill it keyboard warrior, what's your deal with that word that set you off?  It's not that you wanted to prove me wrong, this goes way beyond that.  You
    Tantrum,you are the one crying about what I'm saying,and questioning why I'm so mean to say it to you.Ok keyboard Karen I'll spill why i have a problem with the word force.The reason the word "forced" set me off (as you say),is because it was used in a lie you stated and is complete bull shit.Remember your comment that "Illinos is floating around a policy FORCING residents to sponsor said immigrants in their homes".And your only comments backing that lie were that some guys WANTS residents to do it,or is waiting for people to sign up and participate.No where in your come backs do you even try and say it's forced,but you keep doubling down on it being forced to the residents of Illinos.But can never come up with any proof or backing to what you say.I don't have to prove you wrong,you never coming up with anything saying the state was going to force residents to do it,is proof enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    So the reason for this insanity is because I used the word "forced" one word set you off on a tantrum, and you feel like that is ok just because it's an online forum.  Now I wonder why the word forced set you off.  Was it you were forced to do stuff you never wanted to do?  Or where you the enforcer, maybe you were charged with forcible "whatever"?  This one makes sense. like Bill Clinton with Monica... It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is? Come on spill it keyboard warrior, what's your deal with that word that set you off?  It's not that you wanted to prove me wrong, this goes way beyond that.  You
    Tantrum,you are the one crying about what I'm saying,and questioning why I'm so mean to say it to you.Ok keyboard Karen I'll spill why i have a problem with the word force.The reason the word "forced" set me off (as you say),is because it was used in a lie you stated and is complete bull shit.Remember your comment that "Illinos is floating around a policy FORCING residents to sponsor said immigrants in their homes".And your only comments backing that lie were that some guys WANTS residents to do it,or is waiting for people to sign up and participate.No where in your come backs do you even try and say it's forced,but you keep doubling down on it being forced to the residents of Illinos.But can never come up with any proof or backing to what you say.I don't have to prove you wrong,you never coming up with anything saying the state was going to force residents to do it,is proof enough.

     
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    That Tongo Tongo was special forces, that's CIA stuff.  Trump couldn't comment on that in the timely manner unlike Joe to this Jordan attack.   The CIA exists so the executive branch has no knowledge of anything they do.  Thats why US has really good intel

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    That Tongo Tongo was special forces, that's CIA stuff.  Trump couldn't comment on that in the timely manner unlike Joe to this Jordan attack.   The CIA exists so the executive branch has no knowledge of anything they do.  Thats why US has really good intel

     
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    give it time spoiled child, now the adults want to get back to the topic of Immigration, go sit at the little table over there next to the boy with orange hair

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    give it time spoiled child, now the adults want to get back to the topic of Immigration, go sit at the little table over there next to the boy with orange hair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @UNIMAN  And then Texas sends them to other states and cities.So then Texas shouldn't have any problem if these cities empty their own prisons and send them all to Texas.What's the phrase,what's good for the goose,is good for the gander? I don't know what all the military was doing,and neither do you.If the military had the chance to do anything about the plane that hit the pentagon,or the one that crashed in PA.Or if other planes were in the air and them not knowing how many,or what they were supposed to fly the plane into.They would need the president to give orders on what to do.Or are you saying some private or some military air traffic controller is gonna give out the orders? Could those 7 minutes have changed anything,we'll never know.Cause George DID sit there for 7 minutes listening to children's stories,and did nothing. Are you trying to say trump shouldn't have stopped the protest gone bad,he was right in just sitting there for 3 hours as our countries capitol building was being attacked?If somebody was attacking the WH where he was,or attacking his family,would he sit there for three hours doing nothing?I don't give a fuck what Ray Epps said or did,or what he got.Probation is more then trump or any other republican leader has gotten so far,for what they did.Ya post a video or transcript of trump saying that,just let the video go all the way to the point he also says "Because you'll never take our country with weakness,you have to show strength,and you have to be strong.We have come to demand that congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated (but trump wasn't wanting to use the electors that were lawfully slated,he wanted to use the fake electors that the republicans had put in place in the swing states he lost).And we fight.We fight like hell.And if you don't fight like hell,you're not going to have a country anymore".Ya,post that video or transcript.Do tell me how they were gonna "Stop the Steal" (Why would they name it Stop the Steal if they were just there to march patriotic and peacefully)by marching patriotically and peacefully and cheer on our Congressmen and Senators? Texas has never agreed to support taking in prisoners. But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.   Seems to make perfect sense, no ?
    Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,but nice try.So according to your logic why wouldn't Illinois send their prisoners to Texas again,seems to make perfect sense,no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @UNIMAN  And then Texas sends them to other states and cities.So then Texas shouldn't have any problem if these cities empty their own prisons and send them all to Texas.What's the phrase,what's good for the goose,is good for the gander? I don't know what all the military was doing,and neither do you.If the military had the chance to do anything about the plane that hit the pentagon,or the one that crashed in PA.Or if other planes were in the air and them not knowing how many,or what they were supposed to fly the plane into.They would need the president to give orders on what to do.Or are you saying some private or some military air traffic controller is gonna give out the orders? Could those 7 minutes have changed anything,we'll never know.Cause George DID sit there for 7 minutes listening to children's stories,and did nothing. Are you trying to say trump shouldn't have stopped the protest gone bad,he was right in just sitting there for 3 hours as our countries capitol building was being attacked?If somebody was attacking the WH where he was,or attacking his family,would he sit there for three hours doing nothing?I don't give a fuck what Ray Epps said or did,or what he got.Probation is more then trump or any other republican leader has gotten so far,for what they did.Ya post a video or transcript of trump saying that,just let the video go all the way to the point he also says "Because you'll never take our country with weakness,you have to show strength,and you have to be strong.We have come to demand that congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated (but trump wasn't wanting to use the electors that were lawfully slated,he wanted to use the fake electors that the republicans had put in place in the swing states he lost).And we fight.We fight like hell.And if you don't fight like hell,you're not going to have a country anymore".Ya,post that video or transcript.Do tell me how they were gonna "Stop the Steal" (Why would they name it Stop the Steal if they were just there to march patriotic and peacefully)by marching patriotically and peacefully and cheer on our Congressmen and Senators? Texas has never agreed to support taking in prisoners. But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.   Seems to make perfect sense, no ?
    Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,but nice try.So according to your logic why wouldn't Illinois send their prisoners to Texas again,seems to make perfect sense,no?

     
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    Is it just me or is this how Chat gpt works, only AI would type out sentence after sentence with no spaces.  Just generated responses to whatever was asked, i could see wallstreet going this low.  Lippsman would be not having this.  

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    Is it just me or is this how Chat gpt works, only AI would type out sentence after sentence with no spaces.  Just generated responses to whatever was asked, i could see wallstreet going this low.  Lippsman would be not having this.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    So now you spin it, first it was 3 hours trump but because of this new debacle for Joe you throw out something that hasn't been discussed yet.  Thats called deflecting, and you haven't yet offered your opinion on these 3 soldiers either.  Show some sympathy for the fallen. side note, you really should put two spaces after a period.  I don't want to be like you, but your punctuation has been less than 8th grade work
    Oh I'm sorry you can't discuss more then 1 thing at a time.Then wouldn't you throwing out originally about what Biden did in your post #180 be a deflection also,since it hasn't been discussed yet?So anything you throw out there is fine no matter if it's been discussed before.But when I do it,you cry it's deflecting,you really are a Karen keyboard warrior.

    My opinion on these 3 soldiers is it's a terrible thing.It's always a terrible tragedy when anyone in our military is harmed,let alone killed.Even when 1 of our military is captured in war,they are not losers because they were captured,like some traitors in this country seem to think.My grandfather was killed in World War 2,I of course never got to meet him.My mother only got to meet him 1 time was she was about 3 months old,of course she don't remember it.And only knows she met him because she was told that information by her mother.I can only imagine how her life would of been different and much better had he not been killed in that war.Don't tell me when I should show sympathy for a fallen soldier,I don't have to prove anything to you,you are nothing to me.The clown who doesn't capitalize "side note" when crying about putting 2 spaces after a period.And spells a states name Illinos,is preaching about someone doing 8th grade work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    So now you spin it, first it was 3 hours trump but because of this new debacle for Joe you throw out something that hasn't been discussed yet.  Thats called deflecting, and you haven't yet offered your opinion on these 3 soldiers either.  Show some sympathy for the fallen. side note, you really should put two spaces after a period.  I don't want to be like you, but your punctuation has been less than 8th grade work
    Oh I'm sorry you can't discuss more then 1 thing at a time.Then wouldn't you throwing out originally about what Biden did in your post #180 be a deflection also,since it hasn't been discussed yet?So anything you throw out there is fine no matter if it's been discussed before.But when I do it,you cry it's deflecting,you really are a Karen keyboard warrior.

    My opinion on these 3 soldiers is it's a terrible thing.It's always a terrible tragedy when anyone in our military is harmed,let alone killed.Even when 1 of our military is captured in war,they are not losers because they were captured,like some traitors in this country seem to think.My grandfather was killed in World War 2,I of course never got to meet him.My mother only got to meet him 1 time was she was about 3 months old,of course she don't remember it.And only knows she met him because she was told that information by her mother.I can only imagine how her life would of been different and much better had he not been killed in that war.Don't tell me when I should show sympathy for a fallen soldier,I don't have to prove anything to you,you are nothing to me.The clown who doesn't capitalize "side note" when crying about putting 2 spaces after a period.And spells a states name Illinos,is preaching about someone doing 8th grade work.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    That Tongo Tongo was special forces, that's CIA stuff.  Trump couldn't comment on that in the timely manner unlike Joe to this Jordan attack.   The CIA exists so the executive branch has no knowledge of anything they do.  Thats why US has really good intel
    Wrong again,2 days after it happened the pentagon confirmed that the U.S. soldiers were killed in an attack.Again nice try to give an excuse for trump not mentioning it for 12 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    That Tongo Tongo was special forces, that's CIA stuff.  Trump couldn't comment on that in the timely manner unlike Joe to this Jordan attack.   The CIA exists so the executive branch has no knowledge of anything they do.  Thats why US has really good intel
    Wrong again,2 days after it happened the pentagon confirmed that the U.S. soldiers were killed in an attack.Again nice try to give an excuse for trump not mentioning it for 12 days.

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by soup-can]give it time spoiled child, now the adults want to get back to the topic of Immigration, go sit at the little table over there next to the boy with orange hair

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by soup-can]give it time spoiled child, now the adults want to get back to the topic of Immigration, go sit at the little table over there next to the boy with orange hair

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    give it time spoiled child, now the adults want to get back to the topic of Immigration, go sit at the little table over there next to the boy with orange hair
    Ok and while you are getting back to the topic of immigration,don't forget to tell the adults about your bull shit comment that Illinos was forcing residents to take migrants into their homes.And also don't forget to bring up Woodstock and The Red Hot Chili Peppers,and FDR marrying his 5th cousin while talking about immigration.Then after that you and the adults can discuss the riveting topic of whether or not you think incest is worse then being a dumb ass.Oh and one more thing,don't forget to start crying if someone brings up something that hasn't been discussed before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    give it time spoiled child, now the adults want to get back to the topic of Immigration, go sit at the little table over there next to the boy with orange hair
    Ok and while you are getting back to the topic of immigration,don't forget to tell the adults about your bull shit comment that Illinos was forcing residents to take migrants into their homes.And also don't forget to bring up Woodstock and The Red Hot Chili Peppers,and FDR marrying his 5th cousin while talking about immigration.Then after that you and the adults can discuss the riveting topic of whether or not you think incest is worse then being a dumb ass.Oh and one more thing,don't forget to start crying if someone brings up something that hasn't been discussed before.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.   Sanctuary is a myth.  Illegal immigrants aren't protected against deportation in sanctuary cities.  Police can also arrest them if they commit local crimes.  Police just aren't legally obligated to help federal law enforcement because that isn't their responsibility.  But ugly political stunt for Texas to ship people to cities that haven't agreed to accept them.  Better solutions are more government aid for cities and immigration reforms to fix broken system.  Experts say expanding legal immigration is the most effective solution that doesn't involve crimes against humanity.

    new_laugh_cry 

    Ugly political stunt to flood them into Texas, send FBI after Henry Cuellar, cohearse El Paso not to declare an emergency right before 2022 midterms, cleaning the migrants out of El Paso while the President visits all the while saying there is no border crisis, send FBI after NY City Mayor Adams after he gets too vocal (notice how he shutup).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.   Sanctuary is a myth.  Illegal immigrants aren't protected against deportation in sanctuary cities.  Police can also arrest them if they commit local crimes.  Police just aren't legally obligated to help federal law enforcement because that isn't their responsibility.  But ugly political stunt for Texas to ship people to cities that haven't agreed to accept them.  Better solutions are more government aid for cities and immigration reforms to fix broken system.  Experts say expanding legal immigration is the most effective solution that doesn't involve crimes against humanity.

    new_laugh_cry 

    Ugly political stunt to flood them into Texas, send FBI after Henry Cuellar, cohearse El Paso not to declare an emergency right before 2022 midterms, cleaning the migrants out of El Paso while the President visits all the while saying there is no border crisis, send FBI after NY City Mayor Adams after he gets too vocal (notice how he shutup).

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @MrWhatsItToYa   Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: In the three years President Biden has been in office, illegal immigration from Venezuela has increased by an astounding 7,300 percent. Admittedly, the economic and political situation in Venezuela is bad, but it’s not 7,300 percent worse than it was in 2020.The evidence suggests that the surge of Venezuelan illegal immigration has almost nothing to do with conditions in Venezuela. About 84 percent of the 7.7 million Venezuelans who left Venezuela since 2014 first settled in neighboring Latin American nations. Many would uproot their lives again once the allure of higher American wages was paired with policies that made illegal immigration easy. The fact that many of these migrants, who had already settled safely elsewhere in South America, are making the dangerous trek north indicates that the vast majority of Venezuelan migrants are economic migrants rather than bona fide asylum seekers.It's stunning how many posters here try to find ANY way they can to justify all this.Kinda like the other guys in here justifying a president crying that he needs "absolute immunity" for his 91 indictments,while still trying to find a reason to impeach Biden for his so-called crimes. How is this a good comparison to the illegal immigration issue.   Not even close to a good analogy!It definitely isn't a good comparison to the illegal immigration issue.That's cause I wasn't trying to compare it to the illegal immigrant issue.I was commenting on Mugg's statement about how some posters try to find any way they can to justify something.And as an example of that,I brought up somebody trying to justify that a president should have "absolute immunity" in his 91 indictments,while still trying to find a reason to impeach Biden for his so-called crimes.

    He WAS commenting on them justifying the immigration issue -- not, 'any way to justify something' for one person.  This is an issue about something nearly all on the Left attempt to justify; you tried to compare it to one individual's issue -- that one radical segment tries to 'justify'.  Not even close to a good comparison is all I was saying.  Pick another issue that affects folk's everyday lives instead of one person's personal issue to compare.  That would be a better comparison, otherwise, it simply looks like the normal deflection the Left uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @MrWhatsItToYa   Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: In the three years President Biden has been in office, illegal immigration from Venezuela has increased by an astounding 7,300 percent. Admittedly, the economic and political situation in Venezuela is bad, but it’s not 7,300 percent worse than it was in 2020.The evidence suggests that the surge of Venezuelan illegal immigration has almost nothing to do with conditions in Venezuela. About 84 percent of the 7.7 million Venezuelans who left Venezuela since 2014 first settled in neighboring Latin American nations. Many would uproot their lives again once the allure of higher American wages was paired with policies that made illegal immigration easy. The fact that many of these migrants, who had already settled safely elsewhere in South America, are making the dangerous trek north indicates that the vast majority of Venezuelan migrants are economic migrants rather than bona fide asylum seekers.It's stunning how many posters here try to find ANY way they can to justify all this.Kinda like the other guys in here justifying a president crying that he needs "absolute immunity" for his 91 indictments,while still trying to find a reason to impeach Biden for his so-called crimes. How is this a good comparison to the illegal immigration issue.   Not even close to a good analogy!It definitely isn't a good comparison to the illegal immigration issue.That's cause I wasn't trying to compare it to the illegal immigrant issue.I was commenting on Mugg's statement about how some posters try to find any way they can to justify something.And as an example of that,I brought up somebody trying to justify that a president should have "absolute immunity" in his 91 indictments,while still trying to find a reason to impeach Biden for his so-called crimes.

    He WAS commenting on them justifying the immigration issue -- not, 'any way to justify something' for one person.  This is an issue about something nearly all on the Left attempt to justify; you tried to compare it to one individual's issue -- that one radical segment tries to 'justify'.  Not even close to a good comparison is all I was saying.  Pick another issue that affects folk's everyday lives instead of one person's personal issue to compare.  That would be a better comparison, otherwise, it simply looks like the normal deflection the Left uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.   Sanctuary is a myth.  Illegal immigrants aren't protected against deportation in sanctuary cities.  Police can also arrest them if they commit local crimes.  Police just aren't legally obligated to help federal law enforcement because that isn't their responsibility.  But ugly political stunt for Texas to ship people to cities that haven't agreed to accept them.  Better solutions are more government aid for cities and immigration reforms to fix broken system.  Experts say expanding legal immigration is the most effective solution that doesn't involve crimes against humanity.

    Myth is that you understand the definition of 'sanctuary city' or the definition of 'illegal' immigration.  Just 'expanding' it to 'legal' immigration being 'effective solution' about humanity and 'crimes' does nothing to stop the problem.  In fact, it simply exacerbates the problem by allowing them in under this excuse instead of keeping them out.  

    The term “sanctuary city” is a broad term applied to jurisdictions that have policies in place designed to limit cooperation with or involvement in federal immigration enforcement actions. Cities, counties and some states have a range of informal policies as well as actual laws that qualify as “sanctuary” positions.

    Most of the policies center around not cooperating with federal law enforcement on immigration policies. Many of the largest cities in the country have forms of such policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: But "sanctuary cities "  have agreed to support illegal aliens, to the point these cities will protect them from ICE.... so , why wouldn't Gov. Abbott ship these people to those cities that support illegal aliens.   Sanctuary is a myth.  Illegal immigrants aren't protected against deportation in sanctuary cities.  Police can also arrest them if they commit local crimes.  Police just aren't legally obligated to help federal law enforcement because that isn't their responsibility.  But ugly political stunt for Texas to ship people to cities that haven't agreed to accept them.  Better solutions are more government aid for cities and immigration reforms to fix broken system.  Experts say expanding legal immigration is the most effective solution that doesn't involve crimes against humanity.

    Myth is that you understand the definition of 'sanctuary city' or the definition of 'illegal' immigration.  Just 'expanding' it to 'legal' immigration being 'effective solution' about humanity and 'crimes' does nothing to stop the problem.  In fact, it simply exacerbates the problem by allowing them in under this excuse instead of keeping them out.  

    The term “sanctuary city” is a broad term applied to jurisdictions that have policies in place designed to limit cooperation with or involvement in federal immigration enforcement actions. Cities, counties and some states have a range of informal policies as well as actual laws that qualify as “sanctuary” positions.

    Most of the policies center around not cooperating with federal law enforcement on immigration policies. Many of the largest cities in the country have forms of such policies.

     
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     Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,but nice try.So according to your logic why wouldn't Illinois send their prisoners to Texas again,seems to make perfect sense,no?

    Obviously, this is proved wrong by the CNN definition I posted above:

    The term “sanctuary city” is a broad term applied to jurisdictions that have policies in place designed to limit cooperation with or involvement in federal immigration enforcement actions. Cities, counties and some states have a range of informal policies as well as actual laws that qualify as “sanctuary” positions.

    Most of the policies center around not cooperating with federal law enforcement on immigration policies. Many of the largest cities in the country have forms of such policies.

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     Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,but nice try.So according to your logic why wouldn't Illinois send their prisoners to Texas again,seems to make perfect sense,no?

    Obviously, this is proved wrong by the CNN definition I posted above:

    The term “sanctuary city” is a broad term applied to jurisdictions that have policies in place designed to limit cooperation with or involvement in federal immigration enforcement actions. Cities, counties and some states have a range of informal policies as well as actual laws that qualify as “sanctuary” positions.

    Most of the policies center around not cooperating with federal law enforcement on immigration policies. Many of the largest cities in the country have forms of such policies.

     
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    Creep with me as I ball mythical through the hood ,

    making these cynical maniacs and pitiful lunatics that are as crooked as some hooks about as straight as the edges of a crystal or the skyline in the horizon when it aligns exquisite for a look …..

    Yeah and it don’t stop …….

    cuz it’s 1 , 8 , 7 , on these nothings that bust some slop ……

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Creep with me as I ball mythical through the hood ,

    making these cynical maniacs and pitiful lunatics that are as crooked as some hooks about as straight as the edges of a crystal or the skyline in the horizon when it aligns exquisite for a look …..

    Yeah and it don’t stop …….

    cuz it’s 1 , 8 , 7 , on these nothings that bust some slop ……

     
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    Under the law, presidents cannot shut entire border without a national emergency.  Trump failed to shut down south border because courts overruled him.  It was only during the pandemic that Trump was able to shut down the border.  House republicans automatic rejection of bipartisan senate bill shows they don't actually care about border security.  They rather keep complaining and refuse to fix problems.  By choosing politics over country, they lose all credibility in holding democrats responsible.

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    Under the law, presidents cannot shut entire border without a national emergency.  Trump failed to shut down south border because courts overruled him.  It was only during the pandemic that Trump was able to shut down the border.  House republicans automatic rejection of bipartisan senate bill shows they don't actually care about border security.  They rather keep complaining and refuse to fix problems.  By choosing politics over country, they lose all credibility in holding democrats responsible.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Under the law, presidents cannot shut entire border without a national emergency.  Trump failed to shut down south border because courts overruled him.  It was only during the pandemic that Trump was able to shut down the border.  House republicans automatic rejection of bipartisan senate bill shows they don't actually care about border security.  They rather keep complaining and refuse to fix problems.  By choosing politics over country, they lose all credibility in holding democrats responsible.

     

    Exactamundos! This should be obvious even to those MAGAs around the country and abroad who permanently wear their MAGA partisan blinders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Under the law, presidents cannot shut entire border without a national emergency.  Trump failed to shut down south border because courts overruled him.  It was only during the pandemic that Trump was able to shut down the border.  House republicans automatic rejection of bipartisan senate bill shows they don't actually care about border security.  They rather keep complaining and refuse to fix problems.  By choosing politics over country, they lose all credibility in holding democrats responsible.

     

    Exactamundos! This should be obvious even to those MAGAs around the country and abroad who permanently wear their MAGA partisan blinders.

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