Is this really happening?

No, he's saying in 4 years the specific group he was addressing won't have to vote again because he would've addressed all of the issues. He was speaking off the cuff. He rambles on and says random shit. This is the way he talks. He doesn't struggle to read a prepared speech off of a teleprompter. He freestyles.

And I don't know how many times I have to tell you, i'm not a "maga". I don't worship anyone but my wife. The only Jesus I believe in was a brown middle eastern dude that lived 2000 years ago, and died on the cross, not a pasty Scotch-German guy from Queens.

I have never idolized a politician either. I detest just about all of them, save for maybe Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. However, I don't extrapolate fantasy narratives from off cuff comments, just to trigger myself. I don't run around talking about a guy is crowning himself emperor based on riffing a speech, when i'm fully aware of the type of stuff he says on the fly. And I pick my candidates based one agenda, not tabloid fodder, not hot mic moments, not adherence to a bullshit party in a bullshit two-party system. I don't stand lockstep with Trump on every issue but I stand with him on border security, and foreign policy. And that's what i'm voting on. I'd rather the guy calling illegal immigrants "bad hombres", slightly racist or not, rather than the guy who refers to them as illegals, then backtracks and apologized, because he has no backbone. Frankly, even if they have the best intentions, if they're here illegally, they're already criminals. If you want to cast your vote based on trans inclusion, or something if that nature, go right ahead. If you believe in Biden's infrastructure plans, then by all means, vote for the guy, but when i'm in San Francisco, and all the fentanyl dealers look like 15 year old Hondurans and Salvadorians, who I know are here illegally, that's what i'm voting on. When I know Biden's agenda is funding proxy wars in Ukraine, and literal genocides in Gaza, that's what i'm voting on.

Democrats point to Putin as some monster, even though his agenda has nothing to with, and posed no threat to the US. Trump approaches the issue with diplomacy and liberals say he's kissing up to a dictator. Biden funds the Ukraine in a proxy war that we helped start, a war that they can't win, simply to pump billions into the pockets of defense contractors.

And then what happens? China and Russia click up and fly bombers into our air space. What's the news cycle? "Trump says seniors won't have to vote again! What does it all mean?"

All of our rivals are clicking up. Chinese spy balloons criss-crossing the country. Russian spy ships off the coast of Hawaii. A Russian flotilla off the coast of Cuba. RUSSIAN AND CHINESE BOMBERS OFF THE COAST OF ALASKA!

Nothing to see here, folks. Actually, Donald Trump is the biggest threat to America. He wants to be a dictator! -

Liberals

@joe pockets

 I disagree completely.  I understand people's 'frustration' -- but that is not the answer.

Excellent posts Stu . Well said and thought out . No easy roads taken with those explanations . Let’s see if there are any rebuttals .

and my own personal take to a point that you made :

when liberals here in this forum meet any opposition whatsoever , they cling to the strategy of calling the person opposing them a “ Trump lover “ or “ GOP “ or “ MAGA “ …..

because first and foremost it is a last ditch desperation ploy when having to answer to shit that they don’t want to hear or talk about…..

and secondly , because the moderator of this forum allows it , and even partakes in it , even though you tell them/him that you are independent and not GOP/In love with Trump/MAGA etc ……

you Steph Curry swished the 3 . There is no rebound because you didn’t miss . 

@StumpTownStu

 Well your friends gave you a high five but I am not going to do that because when you reply based on the concept of liberals being the problem then you do not understand the real problem yourself.

Liberals and their issues about funding wars is not the real culprit and the purpose for my reply is only to say that you are 100% fooling yourself to think that magic Trump dust comes in and we stop funding foreign wars or even worse foreign interference. Trump is not strong enough to block our alliance with Israel and the only reason why it didnt happen to this degree during his term is that Bibi was on hiatus and was not politically active during that time...and that has nothing to do with Biden or Trump, he was ousted via the people there and he got back in control and here we are. The issue isnt LIBERALS with regards to foreign involvement it is that we have allegiances to Israel and lots of political and media influence in this country with ties there. You are completely fooling yourself to suggest Trump would do anything different, he would not. When was the last POTUS that stood up and gave a slap down to Israel? I dont recall it in my entire life, in fact if you watch John Oliver last week broadcast it is completely about the West Bank and how ultra conservative Christian groups fund and support Bibi and most anything that Israel forwards, so for me there is ZERO chance if Trump wins that Bibi gets shut down, but he should and we are at fault for allowing the atrocities there for DECADES and both parties.

If you are angry at Ukraine and Israel funding, you are not going to find solace in voting for Trump...that dope has no power to stop our ties and allegiances in this regard. Now if you want to say you are going to angry anti-vote liberals, THAT I will believe, that is what all the silly goofs on Trump's side will say even when you smack them across the face with their reasons as being false, they STILL will vote for him. That is blind pied piper stuff right there and you fall into this yourself.

this is why some people should not be allowed to vote

Our founders had it right when they limited who could vote and instead had a representative from a jurisdiction that voted on behalf of its citizens, thus why the electoral votes was enacted....it's the only way electoral votes would work because having the ability for every citizen to vote is so slanted....

@wallstreetcappers

 I said I was voting on Trump based on border security. That is my number one issue. So try again. The stuff about funding proxy wars, and regime change wars, is valid. You're right, chances are against us ceasing to fund Israel under Trump, b/c we have always funded Israel. However, this American backed, Ukrainian suicide War is at Biden's feet. It was on his watch. It didn't happen under Trump. And funding Israel to this extent, with what they are engaged in, is also at Biden's feet.

@wallstreetcappers

 Oh, and the only person who "angry anti-votes" anyone are liberals. Ask anyone why they are backing the conservative candidate, they typically give you a policy issue. Ask a democrat why they are backing a candidate, they will tell you Trump is an evil dictator so, you know, anyone but him.

Putin is a threat to the world, but magas like you cant see it or dont want to see it.  All of you only believe what your orange idol tells you what to believe.  The magas love a guy who before 2016 was a democrat his whole entire life and only changed parties because he couldnt win an election as a democrat and then found out how easily it was to get magas to believe all of his bullshit.  Thats why the guy has always said he loves stupid people, lmfaoooo.  Keep sending the grifter your hard earned cash and buying all the trump gear.  A fool and their money is soon parted

I sure hope you magas dont have lots of grand kids and great grand kids, cause your love for a wanna be dictator is gonna be paid by them, while trump laughs at all of you on his way to the bank

@cd329

 You're unhinged, misinformed, and clearly uneducated. Nobody gives credence to anything you say. I have never sent a dime to Trump, nor purchased any of his merch. My hard earned cash goes to killing Palestinians, providing the Ukraine with advanced weapons systems for them to still be decimated by Russia, all just to give the Raytheons of the country a few extra bucks, and feeding, housing, and providing healthcare for illegals.

@StumpTownStu

 You are smarter than to blame the border on a political party, that is as silly as blaming Biden for Bibi or Putin's actions and thus our reaction. The border crap reminds me of the number 2 GOP ploy which is inflation...so laws of reality and reason just fly out the window and blanket blame gets used to lure voters into falling for this scheme. The border has been a GOP scheme for decades, I remember moving down here around 2002 and that scheme was in full display and used by GOP candidates in most every capacity because you know liberals LIKE the Mexican vote because that is their vote base so liberals turn a blind eye to crime and to their fellow immigrants because skin color means you throw out all logic and morals, that is the scheme...so down here the terror vote is hispanics vote for DEMS and hispanics are the new influx of LIB voting base and on and on and on. What a load of horse crap.

The border isnt about a vote grab it is about feasibility, plausibility and a lack of reality. We have done hours of conversation about the border and your side just fails to understand anything but their narrow mindset and perspective...that border is easy to put up, is not expensive, it does not require a lifetime of upkeep and monitoring and the national guard will take care of the rest. That is your groups mindset and it is baffling and kind of obtuse to me. 

I see the border as a battle we are already behind on even before we start or after we finish. The US government has no capacity to build or maintain a border that meets or exceeds needs, its like the example I have used about freeway construction, it is like never that the needs are met or for very long and that is due to cost and time. So the border even if you had Bewitched snap fingers and it is built does not solve the problem and not for very long and not at ZERO cost. The monitoring and immediate response costs required are enormous and a multiple of the cost of the build and it never ends the costs never go down. The worst part is the people you really want out are not the average citizen or the normal educated and simple person, the people you want out are funded and motivated and more skilled than WE are...so a wall is not a solution, the solution is a comprehensive extremely expensive and aggressive approach to border security and that comes at a massive ongoing cost and a commitment to thousands of miles of area and technology required to even remotely think we have a shot at solving the problem.

Trump's solution is to rile you guys up, get him in and then sit on the problem for two years...which is exactly what he did last time, there will be no repeat or improvement of the situation with him in office, the length of time this solution or his solution would be is a decade or longer IF you really are serious about a solution and not just seeking a validation of your partisan vote choice.

@wallstreetcappers

  You can't whitewash Biden's failures by going back a couple decades. Interviews of BP agents/officials reveal the reality of the situation over the L5 years. Biden's spiteful actions on day 1 seriously disturbed what was at least a somewhat stable situation, despite what the media & WH pundits tried to tell you. The numbers don't lie.

 Exact and spot on. I believe this is derived from media. People really need to turn off media and "nEwS". 95% of news is paid shills that have an agenda.  When you ask them why they do not like Trump, it's the same narrative over and over and they struggle to give prime examples behind their reasoning. 

@wallstreetcappers

 I believe you are only fooling yourself. Of course you can blame the man who belongs to a political party that said in his political party debate that if I become president, migrants should "immediately surge the border". 

You can also blame dems for financing Hamas through UNRWA even though Congress was warned by two watchdog groups in early 2021 that Hamas was in UNRWA.

You can also blame dems for taking Houthis off the terror list and funding Yemen.

You can also blame dems for giving frozen assests to Iran and less than 4 weeks later they assist Hamas in a horrible attack on Israel

You can also blame dems for thinking Venezuela was going to have fair elections and loosening the oil sanctions. 

@THEMUGG

 You act like this border situation is new and due to Biden. This is a GOP narrative used to get YOU to vote a certain way, same scheme is used down here every single major election cycle. Arpaio used this for DECADES to walk into his job and it worked, but when you look at the totality of the situation and duration you cannot ignore that the border is a total GOP scheme and nothing more.

Trump used the scheme to get in and it didnt work because he got in not due to the popular vote or due to Arizona or California the spooky lock your doors the Mexico cartel are going to kill you ploy, he lost in both of those states..its a sucker lousy scheme that is actually quite offensive and racist. Hispanics are not flooding the country and they are not robbing anglo white citizens, the element you want OUT from the border is not the element you are targeting with these hate/scare schemes. The element you want out has LAPPED you and has dozens of schemes to accomplish their goal of drugs and violence and money. The crime element is not the high majority of immigrants, the crime element is the cartels and drugs...we will have drugs in this country and crime in this country no matter how tall you build the wall.

BUT...in the end if you really want to secure the border then do it...commit to it and do it right with endless funding and costs and arm the border security with skilled, equipped and supported people, not some idiotic national guard crappy lazy solution. If security to the border is the goal then DO IT....Trump has absolutely no plans to secure the border, he has plans to get you to vote for him using this scheme and then blame the DEMS or the deep state or whatever other nonsense as to why he couldnt do it YET AGAIN. He failed the first time, he has no intentions to do anything different. The border problem does not flow well on his golf schedule or his twitter rant time so why would you think someone who had the seat and failed would be any different a second time?

Wise up...

@wallstreetcappers

 The border crisis is not nearly as multifaceted as the economy and inflation. It's like comparing apples to socket wrenches. I will say I find it interesting that even amongst economic subjects as they relate to politics, when it's a win, it's all, "Look how great Biden is." When it's a loss, it's, "Well, you know, the president actually has bery little to do with the economy." I do find it interesting that we saw little inflation under Trump, and the cost of commerce was pretty stagnant during a flipping pandemic, then under Biden prices skyrocketed. However, again, economics are far more complicated than that. And the things we see when the rubber meets the road can hardly be traced to one politician or policy. Personally,  I have always been of the believe that at the root of inflation, when you drill down, is always, to some extend, corporate greed and profits. It doesn't negate the fact that we have a thread that says, Economist say inflation under Trump, blah, blah, blah..." when under Biden, there are things at the grocer that have literally doubled and tripled in price. Everything is up a minimum of 25%. Some stuff is literally up 200%-300%.

Neither here nor there though. I don't believe in laissez-faire capitolism, I don't believe in trickle down economic tax breaks, and I don't believe in bank deregulation. So i'm not a staunch supporter of all Republican economic policy. However, to compare the border crisis to the complexity of economics is ridiculous. Numbers don't lie. Illegal immigration was down under Trump, and not only during his covid era policies. It has soared under Biden. Full stop.

@UNIMAN

 All of your blame commentary are the groups in the region who are at odds with Israel, where is the blame for Israel and Bibi here? Go watch the John Oliver segment about the West Bank and come back and tell me that Israel is the group who is being harmed and is innocent.

If anything that region has been wrecked for 3000 years and Israel is as much or more to blame than Hamas or Iran. Israel has the backing of massive weapons and cash and support from their allies, the others in the conflict do not...who has the advantage and who was given land not theirs and who was stripped of land that was theirs?

The reasons for the decisions on rating terror groups is definitely 3-D chess than you claim, we have regional objectives that are not about Biden or DEMS there...we are fighting several battles and have large reaching objectives and one of them is to change the dynamic and TRY to slow down the development of nuclear weapons because while those do not directly harm the US, they DO harm all of our friends in Europe and the UK and millions of our allies living there.

Funny how Israel can do pretty much any crappy thing they want without limits or recourse and NO administration OR the UN stops them, to me THAT is the root of our problem.

@StumpTownStu

 Im saying the comparison is about a PLOY...it is a scheme to tick you off and fool you to vote a certain way. Inflation is the same it is a complex and deep problem that is glossed over and used as a scheme to blame Biden and the DNC. Schemes are used every cycle, this cycle it is good ole border security, inflation and a sprinkle of LGBT over reach fear along with the usual gun grab tool that never fails.

If you want border security Trump is not going to provide it, he will provide you with lots of twitter blame ranting and lots of golfing and lots of finger pointing and saying the reason why he CANT do something is due to someone else, that you can guarantee.

Dont fall for media based political schemes, its a trojan horse to get in power and we are all being played by these idiots.

Once joe got elected , putin sent soldiers along parts of the Ukrainian border, thousands of them.  Putin then sent mobile hospital .  Biden's response... " a minor incursion is ok ", giving putin greenlight to proceed. 

Border... it got disgustingly worse under joe.  

Spock.. you have a way with words!!!

@wallstreetcappers

Remember when Biden said inflation is a great asset and we need more of it? Because inflation is a tax on the public and we all know dems love more taxes because they love wasting other peoples money. 

Incase you forgot, here is a video.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWrhRgkfwHA

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fSDdzhiPJgs

@StumpTownStu

My hard earned cash goes to killing Palestinians, providing the Ukraine with advanced weapons systems for them to still be decimated by Russia, all just to give the Raytheons of the country a few extra bucks, and feeding, housing, and providing healthcare for illegals.

One would be hard pressed to find a more truthful and accurate parody statement in the land.... well done sir, well done.... 

@Raiders22

@StumpTownStu

It's funny how republicans only vote based on emotion, on membership in cults, and on belief in ploys, according to democrats. They say we vote based on fear tactics while literally trumpeting comic book narratives about dictatorship. And I say "we" loosely, as I am not the most devout republican. Some of my stances would see me labeled a socialist. This is an elitist democratic ploy. "Either you agree with me, or you are just uneducated."

I sit here and say I choose my candidate based on policy. Illegal immigration directly affects the states, counties, towns, and cities in which I make my homes. Numbers don't lie. We have a president who apologized for referring to illegals as illegals, who would've been within his power to make Trump's covid era polices permanent but chose not to. Who has hamstrung state governors when they have taken extreme measures to combat the problem. I'm voting against a policy that falls in line with Democrat mayors and governors classifying themselves as sanctuary cities and states. This is my number one issue in this election. It's not a ploy. It's not a scheme. It's not a ploy. It's not a scare tactic. It's one of the few issues that is can be traced directly back to presidential policy.

Meanwhile we have 55 year old, post menopausal women and incel men claiming abortion is the biggest issue of this election. From what I can gather from real world interaction, I don't see a bunch of child bearing age woman who are terribly worried about abortion. It is 2024, not 1994. Young people are having sex less in general. They are having less unprotected sex.The modern woman realizes that she has the power to manage her own sex life. The modern woman is least likely to get knocked up by some rando at a party. The modern woman is more worried about real issues.

@BigGame90

 That inflation comment was the same thought that the FED shared for 15 years...that we NEEDED inflation, they did massive QE for over a decade and the inflation needle did not move..then BOOM Joe Biden comes in and he is more effective at inflation than 3 FED chairs and multiple treasury secretaries.

You are being cute here in saying that right?