Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: I am much more concerned that a growing number of hospitals are being swamped with covid patients of all ages all around the world including here. i agree , baish europe is getting gut punched right now vaccinations r helping to save hundreds of thousands here and europe but the sheer speed at which omicron spreads - even though slightly milder overall compared to previous strains - is still causing major problems for health care systems
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections!
WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: I am much more concerned that a growing number of hospitals are being swamped with covid patients of all ages all around the world including here. i agree , baish europe is getting gut punched right now vaccinations r helping to save hundreds of thousands here and europe but the sheer speed at which omicron spreads - even though slightly milder overall compared to previous strains - is still causing major problems for health care systems
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections!
WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
And what they go through means it's coming here too.
Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US,
and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
And what they go through means it's coming here too.
Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US,
and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months And what they go through means it's coming here too. Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US, and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
Once the current surge abates, countries can expect to see “far fewer cases” through the rest of 2022, Gates wrote on Tuesday during a Twitter Q&A with Devi Sridhar, chair of global public health at the University of Edinburgh. Once that happens, Gates continued, Covid can most likely “be treated more like seasonal flu.”
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months And what they go through means it's coming here too. Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US, and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
Once the current surge abates, countries can expect to see “far fewer cases” through the rest of 2022, Gates wrote on Tuesday during a Twitter Q&A with Devi Sridhar, chair of global public health at the University of Edinburgh. Once that happens, Gates continued, Covid can most likely “be treated more like seasonal flu.”
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
And what they go through means it's coming here too.
Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US,
and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
unvaccinated r almost 20 times more likely to die than vaccinated
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
And what they go through means it's coming here too.
Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US,
and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
unvaccinated r almost 20 times more likely to die than vaccinated
And what they go through means it's coming here too. Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US, and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
Europe is suffering big time right now. Make no mistake.
There's a lot of speculation about when omicron will fizzle out. Optimism is wonderful but reality is more important. The virus is mutating right now as we speak.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
And what they go through means it's coming here too. Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US, and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
Europe is suffering big time right now. Make no mistake.
There's a lot of speculation about when omicron will fizzle out. Optimism is wonderful but reality is more important. The virus is mutating right now as we speak.
If you've been paying any attention, the Israeli's have been ahead of the rest of the world this entire time...first to vaxx, first to double, first to triple....and just recently first to quadruple dose....
Professor Cyrille Cohen is head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government. In a wide-ranging and forthright interview, the Professor tells Freddie Sayers:
The Green Pass / vaccine passport concept is no longer relevant in the Omicron era and should be phased out (he expects it to be in short order in Israel)
He and his colleagues were surprised and disappointed that the vaccines did not prevent transmission, as they had originally hoped
The biggest mistake of the pandemic in Israel was closing schools and education
Widespread infection is now an inevitable part of future immunity — otherwise known as herd immunity
Omicron has accelerated the pandemic into the endemic phase, in which Covid will be “like flu”
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If you've been paying any attention, the Israeli's have been ahead of the rest of the world this entire time...first to vaxx, first to double, first to triple....and just recently first to quadruple dose....
Professor Cyrille Cohen is head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government. In a wide-ranging and forthright interview, the Professor tells Freddie Sayers:
The Green Pass / vaccine passport concept is no longer relevant in the Omicron era and should be phased out (he expects it to be in short order in Israel)
He and his colleagues were surprised and disappointed that the vaccines did not prevent transmission, as they had originally hoped
The biggest mistake of the pandemic in Israel was closing schools and education
Widespread infection is now an inevitable part of future immunity — otherwise known as herd immunity
Omicron has accelerated the pandemic into the endemic phase, in which Covid will be “like flu”
Especially with Omicron, where we don’t see virtually any difference, there is a very narrow gap between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with a virus, more or less at the same pace.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:
You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the risks and rewards of herd immunity:
Herd immunity is a consequence for me. It’s not an objective, it’s not a goal. There is a thin nuance here, if I may say, that people have to grasp. I’m not saying to people go and get infected, I don’t think that this is a model that we need to adopt.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On Israeli school closures:
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the acceleration from pandemic to endemic:
I think it’s going to be like flu, I think there is going to be bad waves and better waves, with a better immunity at the level of the population, with better vaccines with better treatment. In that sense, and I’m extremely cautious, there is a possibility that Omicron will accelerate that transition.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On vaccine mandates:
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
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Especially with Omicron, where we don’t see virtually any difference, there is a very narrow gap between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with a virus, more or less at the same pace.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:
You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the risks and rewards of herd immunity:
Herd immunity is a consequence for me. It’s not an objective, it’s not a goal. There is a thin nuance here, if I may say, that people have to grasp. I’m not saying to people go and get infected, I don’t think that this is a model that we need to adopt.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On Israeli school closures:
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the acceleration from pandemic to endemic:
I think it’s going to be like flu, I think there is going to be bad waves and better waves, with a better immunity at the level of the population, with better vaccines with better treatment. In that sense, and I’m extremely cautious, there is a possibility that Omicron will accelerate that transition.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On vaccine mandates:
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: I am much more concerned that a growing number of hospitals are being swamped with covid patients of all ages all around the world including here. i agree , baish europe is getting gut punched right now vaccinations r helping to save hundreds of thousands here and europe but the sheer speed at which omicron spreads - even though slightly milder overall compared to previous strains - is still causing major problems for health care systems
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
double gut punches and a drop kick
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: I am much more concerned that a growing number of hospitals are being swamped with covid patients of all ages all around the world including here. i agree , baish europe is getting gut punched right now vaccinations r helping to save hundreds of thousands here and europe but the sheer speed at which omicron spreads - even though slightly milder overall compared to previous strains - is still causing major problems for health care systems
ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months And what they go through means it's coming here too. Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US, and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
unvaccinated r almost 20 times more likely to die than vaccinated
That stat seems to have changed a few times but the point is still more or less the same.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: ABC news is reporting today Europe is facing a "tidal wave" of omicron infections! WHO is predicting that half of all europe could be infected with omicron over the next couple of months And what they go through means it's coming here too. Johns Hopkins data shows a 7 day rolling average of 1,715 covid deaths PER DAY in the US, and almost 750,000 new omicron infections every single day.
unvaccinated r almost 20 times more likely to die than vaccinated
That stat seems to have changed a few times but the point is still more or less the same.
Covid-19 hospitalizations are dropping in the Northeast. In other parts of the country, they're rising.
CNN - Covid-19 hospitalizations in the Northeast are down by about 11% after reaching a peak about a week ago and have also dropped slightly -- about 6% -- in the Midwest region, according to data from the Department of Health and Human Services. But in other parts of the country, a different picture. Covid-19 hospitalization numbers were up about 15% over the past week in the West and up by about 6% in the South -- with many hospitals stretched thin from the surge in patients and the severe staffing shortages.
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Covid-19 hospitalizations are dropping in the Northeast. In other parts of the country, they're rising.
CNN - Covid-19 hospitalizations in the Northeast are down by about 11% after reaching a peak about a week ago and have also dropped slightly -- about 6% -- in the Midwest region, according to data from the Department of Health and Human Services. But in other parts of the country, a different picture. Covid-19 hospitalization numbers were up about 15% over the past week in the West and up by about 6% in the South -- with many hospitals stretched thin from the surge in patients and the severe staffing shortages.
They are starting trials now for a hopeful vaccine directed specifically at omicron. Have to wait and see. But I am skeptical that any positive results would arrive in time well before the next variant
Someone finally talking sense to the 3 stooges....
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
They are starting trials now for a hopeful vaccine directed specifically at omicron. Have to wait and see. But I am skeptical that any positive results would arrive in time well before the next variant
Someone finally talking sense to the 3 stooges....
Child infections are now leading the way. Iceland charts 14-day incidence per 100,000 of any given category such as vaxed, unvaxed, boostered, etc.
Unvaccinated children have skyrocketed to 8000 per 100,000 for 14-day incidences. Right behind are vaccinated children at 6820 cases per 100,000, then fully vaccinated adults at 5954 per 100,000 followed by adults not fully vaccinated at 4403. The boostered are at 2547 per 100,000.
Incidences of hospitalizations are higher for the boostered than the fully vaccinated adults. Guess that makes sense as most with boosters are the higher risk group like the elderly.
Unvaccinated have more hospitalizations at 53 per 100,000 followed by boostered at 19 per 100,000 and then fully vaxed adults at 15 per 100,000.
Not the "17", "23", times we keep hearing from our CDC. Maybe 2.5? Hmmm.
And no category for children in the hospital !!!! A good thing!
Child infections are now leading the way. Iceland charts 14-day incidence per 100,000 of any given category such as vaxed, unvaxed, boostered, etc.
Unvaccinated children have skyrocketed to 8000 per 100,000 for 14-day incidences. Right behind are vaccinated children at 6820 cases per 100,000, then fully vaccinated adults at 5954 per 100,000 followed by adults not fully vaccinated at 4403. The boostered are at 2547 per 100,000.
Incidences of hospitalizations are higher for the boostered than the fully vaccinated adults. Guess that makes sense as most with boosters are the higher risk group like the elderly.
Unvaccinated have more hospitalizations at 53 per 100,000 followed by boostered at 19 per 100,000 and then fully vaxed adults at 15 per 100,000.
Not the "17", "23", times we keep hearing from our CDC. Maybe 2.5? Hmmm.
And no category for children in the hospital !!!! A good thing!
Covid-19 hospitalizations are dropping in the Northeast. In other parts of the country, they're rising. CNN -Covid-19 hospitalizations in the Northeast are down by about 11% after reaching a peak about a week ago and have also dropped slightly -- about 6% -- in the Midwest region, according to data from the Department of Health and Human Services. But in other parts of the country, a different picture. Covid-19 hospitalization numbers were up about 15% over the past week in the West and up by about 6% in the South -- with many hospitals stretched thin from the surge in patients and the severe staffing shortages.
there is no doubt that hospitals in many areas r being swamped with unvaccinsted covid patients
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Covid-19 hospitalizations are dropping in the Northeast. In other parts of the country, they're rising. CNN -Covid-19 hospitalizations in the Northeast are down by about 11% after reaching a peak about a week ago and have also dropped slightly -- about 6% -- in the Midwest region, according to data from the Department of Health and Human Services. But in other parts of the country, a different picture. Covid-19 hospitalization numbers were up about 15% over the past week in the West and up by about 6% in the South -- with many hospitals stretched thin from the surge in patients and the severe staffing shortages.
there is no doubt that hospitals in many areas r being swamped with unvaccinsted covid patients
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