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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Deezy - what has the current democratic party done to help the President of the United States - NAME ONE?????????????? That is not the topic we are focused on at the moment. Keep up. The support should be reciprocal. The President shows no support for any Dems in office or "Democratic" states, so why should they show him love? All he does is attack the blue states, and claim he shouldn't support Democratic governors. You think that is leadership? He is the President of all states, not just Republican ones. By the way I am still waiting on the name of one signature economic policy from Trump, and not a single one of the Trumpers can name one. Hilarious. 1)Renegotiated NAFTA- 2)Energy independence. 3)Funded a depleted military 4) Immediate health care for vets 5)Brought back manufacturing jobs. Change your smartass attitude if you think you can be respectful to others who don't agree with you. Says  alot about a man's character wouldn't you agree! Again these aren't signature policies. Thanks though. Presidents are supposed to negotiate foreign policy deals as heads of foreign policy. Again not signature policies. Trump did not create the original NAFTA deal, and his renegotiating that deal, which seeks to snuff our friendly allies in the North (Canada) who have been tremendous trade partners is not exactly beneficial in my eyes. Depleted military??? Funny Obama and Trump's spending on military on an annual basis is extremely similar. $600 billion to around $700 billion. So is his budget more, yes. But the military was not "depleted" in any sense. That is pure nonsense. Sounds like you buy into a lot of the rhetoric. Anyway. Have a great day sunshine!  https://theconversation.com/trumps-planned-military-buildup-is-based-on-faulty-claims-not-good-strategy-73883     My attitude is my business thanks. Thanks for proving my point about character! Pretty ironic stressing character in posts defending Trump. you care about character in a free message board but not from your President??? Interesting. He is never an immoral, smart a$&”, who insults anyone that disagrees with him! Too funny. Show me one post where I defend trumps character. You simply keep spewing the hate and refuse to give him zero credit for anything. YET, YOU NEVER state how worthless your side has been . THAT I find ironic. Where is your party in defending the police? What has your party done to squash the looting and burning (Even minority owned businesses)? What has your party done to squash the mob mentality? You simply bash the shit out of trump while your party sits back and watch the country go to shit. But hey it's trump fault. What say you about your party's let's do what we always do - NOTHING! Tell me how wonderful your party is ? NOW  you answer a question for a change hero! The point is you are acting like character matters, and yet have undying support for Trump, who has some of the lowest character and morality of any human being on Earth, which is pretty darn ironic.
Pay attention - I have never said anything

about Trump's character - NOW answer the question hero!

 
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Snorkel. I suggest you tap out of this discussion. I have. 

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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Deezy - what has the current democratic party done to help the President of the United States - NAME ONE?????????????? That is not the topic we are focused on at the moment. Keep up. The support should be reciprocal. The President shows no support for any Dems in office or "Democratic" states, so why should they show him love? All he does is attack the blue states, and claim he shouldn't support Democratic governors. You think that is leadership? He is the President of all states, not just Republican ones. By the way I am still waiting on the name of one signature economic policy from Trump, and not a single one of the Trumpers can name one. Hilarious. 1)Renegotiated NAFTA- 2)Energy independence. 3)Funded a depleted military 4) Immediate health care for vets 5)Brought back manufacturing jobs. Change your smartass attitude if you think you can be respectful to others who don't agree with you. Says  alot about a man's character wouldn't you agree! Again these aren't signature policies. Thanks though. Presidents are supposed to negotiate foreign policy deals as heads of foreign policy. Again not signature policies. Trump did not create the original NAFTA deal, and his renegotiating that deal, which seeks to snuff our friendly allies in the North (Canada) who have been tremendous trade partners is not exactly beneficial in my eyes. Depleted military??? Funny Obama and Trump's spending on military on an annual basis is extremely similar. $600 billion to around $700 billion. So is his budget more, yes. But the military was not "depleted" in any sense. That is pure nonsense. Sounds like you buy into a lot of the rhetoric. Anyway. Have a great day sunshine!  https://theconversation.com/trumps-planned-military-buildup-is-based-on-faulty-claims-not-good-strategy-73883     My attitude is my business thanks. Thanks for proving my point about character! Pretty ironic stressing character in posts defending Trump. you care about character in a free message board but not from your President??? Interesting. He is never an immoral, smart a$&”, who insults anyone that disagrees with him! Too funny. Show me one post where I defend trumps character. You simply keep spewing the hate and refuse to give him zero credit for anything. YET, YOU NEVER state how worthless your side has been . THAT I find ironic. Where is your party in defending the police? What has your party done to squash the looting and burning (Even minority owned businesses)? What has your party done to squash the mob mentality? You simply bash the shit out of trump while your party sits back and watch the country go to shit. But hey it's trump fault. What say you about your party's let's do what we always do - NOTHING! Tell me how wonderful your party is ? NOW  you answer a question for a change hero! The point is you are acting like character matters, and yet have undying support for Trump, who has some of the lowest character and morality of any human being on Earth, which is pretty darn ironic. Pay attention - I have never said anything about Trump's character - NOW answer the question hero!

Oh my keep up. I know that is my point, you are criticizing my character, yet looking the other way on Trump's lack of character and morality. Do you not see the double standard and hypocrisy there? 

 
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Posted: #329

Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

Snorkel. I suggest you tap out of this discussion. I have.

Yeah..because Deezy and fubah bitch slapped you with facts.

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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

 

You simply keep spewing the hate and refuse to give him zero credit for anything...

You simply bash the shit out of trump while your party sits back and
watch the country go to shit. But hey it's trump fault.

What say you about your party's let's do what we always do - NOTHING!

Tell me how wonderful your party is ?

Not sure how others will respond. Not even sure Dee is a Democrat, ftm.
He's no trump-enabler that's for sure; nor am I.
A lot of people DESPISE trump now, and for almost incalcuable good reasons,
but that doesn't mean they are Democrats. You know that, right?
Just ask Kellyanne's hubby and daughter. And Mary Trump.

But as an objective man - a moderate and Independent - although trump
has caused me to hate his guts the last 3 years, YES, he has done a few
decent things that us MODERATES can acknowledge.
1/ He entered the game at the opponent's 7 yard line where Obama left it
and he gained the final 7 yards to cross the goal line. Yaay trumpy!
2/ Nafta renegotiation - finally signed this summer (year 4)
3/ He called out China on information/patent theft
4/ He called out NATO nations for failing THEIR pledges to contribute
5/ He nailed a very high ranking member of IRAN's forces
6/ He tightened up southern border security
7/ He gave us a new word "cofefe"
8/ He has raised watching the news & politics to a whole new level

That's as far as I can recall that he has done well FOR EVERY AMERICAN --
not just pleasing those of his base -- like deregulation, and tax cuts for
the rich, and bashing honored GENERALS who disagree with him, and
He has done a *LOT* of stuff pleasing ONLY to his base, sure. Like being a
true champion AGAINST BLM by defending the racist symbols and statues
of traitors who actually fought AGAINST the USA, killing hundreds of thousands
of US soldiers.
But overwhelming the things he has done is a net NEGATIVE -- and polls
are revealing this daily. The people simply don't agree with the minority
who are trump-lovers. THAT is the bottom line.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

National Association of Police Organizations endorses Trump

So does the KKK

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

  The point is you are acting like character matters, and yet have undying support for Trump,

who has some of the lowest character and morality of any human being on Earth,

which is pretty darn ironic.

Plenty of empirical evidence to support that he is of very low character & morality

Hundreds of polls the past 3 years are fairly consistent in that regard.

But in truth I don't think it matters to him.  His niece has written as much in her

#1 BEST SELLING new expose on the trump fraud.

trump is like an arsonist.  He sets an apartment on fire and watches people burn. ....then he goes and lites another...

 
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Fubah,

Thanks for bringing that up. All these Trumpers just assuming I am a Democrat because I point out Trump is an awful human, who claims too much credit for everything. It's funny, I am actually a registered Independent in Arizona, and cannot vote in any primaries because of it. I have voted for candidates from both parties through the years. But again, most Trumpers are illogical and do not understand you do not need to be Democrat to dislike Trump. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Rush...tell us why you support a man who stole money from a charity for kids with cancer.

Where is your credible source  ? Otherwise,  this is just jibberish.... 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

  Well he never said it ended in 2008. It technically began in late 2007 under our last *REPUBLICAN* administration; the bulk of the disaster though was in 2008 (mostly) and into 2009.......   But THANKS for pointing out that the devastating recession which started during our last *REPUBLICAN* administration, was "ENDED on Obama's watch!"   Way to go Obama !!!    Meanwhile, here we are in the midst of ANOTHER failing *REPUBLICAN* administration, and what  do we have... ?    yet another clusterph**k

"and mostly lasted through 2008 " is what was posted ..and not ...was in 2008 (mostly)..

......mostly lasted ..means for the most part ,but not the whole part.. indicating it did not last the whole year..

..and I did not say when the recession started, that was your blanket buddy..

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

and mostly lasted through 2008 " is what was posted ..and not ...was in 2008 (mostly).. ......mostly lasted ..means for the most part ,but not the whole part.. indicating it did not last the whole year.. ..and I did not say when the recession started, that was your blanket buddy..

Ok

 

 

But THANKS for pointing out that the devastating recession which started

during our last *REPUBLICAN* administration,

was "ENDED on Obama's watch!"   Way to go Obama !!!  jumpy

 

Meanwhile,

here we are in the midst of ANOTHER failing *REPUBLICAN* administration,

and what  do we have... ?  an_beatup  yet another clusterph**k

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Deezy......Am I to believe your "Pew Research Center" source or the "Wall Street Journal ??"  You are not building a very good case for your argument.     The facts are irrefutable..  but continue to plug your ears, cover your mouth, and cover your eyes (insert emoji here. Lol) You should believe the Wall Street Journal considering your were praising it 2 days ago and it is a conservative source.... Conservative Source ?  It presents "factual data" on the topic we are discussing ?   Unlike your favorite sites Vox.com, politico, and msnbc, which are light on facts and heavy on political politicking commentary.  No Thanks. Yes. Your lack of overall knowledge is baffling. I will not be responding to you further. You do not even realize that the Wall Street Journal is a conservative leaning publication? Must be new to politics and reading in general. Have you heard of the Murdoch Family? They happen to own the Wall Street Journal and your favorite new source Fox News??? Not conservative leaning. Geezus you are clueless. My articles are not from Vox, Politico, and MSNBC. Last ones I just posted are from NPR and Forbes with actually numerical facts and data, unlike anything you ever post. In fact you do not even post sources, simply jibberish and claims with no factual support. Have a good life and keep your head in the clouds.   Translation:  I don't have anything intelligent to respond with !  I am defeated ! Ooohhh. Got me. Why don't you post that same WSJ opinion piece from two years ago that was debunked 5 times that you posted 4 times already???? Tell me more.... Rush have you see this one? www.wsj.com/articles/low-income-workers-see-long-awaited-wage-gains-1538771475 It's an opinion piece on blue collar worker wages rising faster than high income earners, which didn't happen. Let me know what you think?

You cannot refute the data, unless you believe they used incorrect numbers,  which is silly.

BUT, ...... no worries,  I just found another source that substantiates the WSJ's reporting.   It's even from a user friendly USA Today source,  that you will comforting, like a little pillow for you. Lol. 

www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue-collar-workers-wages-rising-inequality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Well he never said it ended in 2008. It technically began in late 2007 under our last *REPUBLICAN* administration; the bulk of the disaster though was in 2008 (mostly) and into 2009.......   But THANKS for pointing out that the devastating recession which started during our last *REPUBLICAN* administration, was "ENDED on Obama's watch!"   Way to go Obama !!!    Meanwhile, here we are in the midst of ANOTHER failing *REPUBLICAN* administration, and what  do we have... ?    yet another clusterph**k "and mostly lasted through 2008 " is what was posted ..and not ...was in 2008 (mostly).. ......mostly lasted ..means for the most part ,but not the whole part.. indicating it did not last the whole year.. ..and I did not say when the recession started, that was your blanket buddy..

Are you this slow? Mostly lasted through 2008 infers the worst of it was in 2008, which is accurate. You stated "Obama's" recession indicating he was solely responsible for it. Perhaps you should have said Bush' recession. It certainly was not Obama's recession. Nice effort in deflecting. He ended it, if that is what you meant by Obama's recession, but I highly doubt that. At least be honest about it. You Trumper's blame Obama for everything. Noone except clueless Trumpers label the Great Recession 2008, "Obama's" recession. Funny stuff, but yet so lame. an_cheers

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Deezy......Am I to believe your "Pew Research Center" source or the "Wall Street Journal ??"  You are not building a very good case for your argument.     The facts are irrefutable..  but continue to plug your ears, cover your mouth, and cover your eyes (insert emoji here. Lol) You should believe the Wall Street Journal considering your were praising it 2 days ago and it is a conservative source.... Conservative Source ?  It presents "factual data" on the topic we are discussing ?   Unlike your favorite sites Vox.com, politico, and msnbc, which are light on facts and heavy on political politicking commentary.  No Thanks. Yes. Your lack of overall knowledge is baffling. I will not be responding to you further. You do not even realize that the Wall Street Journal is a conservative leaning publication? Must be new to politics and reading in general. Have you heard of the Murdoch Family? They happen to own the Wall Street Journal and your favorite new source Fox News??? Not conservative leaning. Geezus you are clueless. My articles are not from Vox, Politico, and MSNBC. Last ones I just posted are from NPR and Forbes with actually numerical facts and data, unlike anything you ever post. In fact you do not even post sources, simply jibberish and claims with no factual support. Have a good life and keep your head in the clouds.   Translation:  I don't have anything intelligent to respond with !  I am defeated ! Ooohhh. Got me. Why don't you post that same WSJ opinion piece from two years ago that was debunked 5 times that you posted 4 times already???? Tell me more.... Rush have you see this one? www.wsj.com/articles/low-income-workers-see-long-awaited-wage-gains-1538771475 It's an opinion piece on blue collar worker wages rising faster than high income earners, which didn't happen. Let me know what you think? You cannot refute the data, unless you believe they used incorrect numbers,  which is silly. BUT, ...... no worries,  I just found another source that substantiates the WSJ's reporting.   It's even from a user friendly USA Today source,  that you will comforting, like a little pillow for you. Lol.  www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue-collar-workers-wages-rising-inequality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001

Let me pull a you. Why should I believe your source??? an_cheers

Fubah,

Can you teach this guy for the 10th time what rising income and wealth inequality means? It is clear he has no concept of either term, despite us both showing him numerous articles that shows a modest rise in blue collar wages is not closing income or wealth inequality. Income and/or wealth inequality continue to rise to the highest point in 70 years, which does not show that the "wage gap" is shrinking. You clearly lack critical thinking skills. Your source and article are weak and prove nothing. A rise in blue collar wages for 2 months does nothing to close the income (wages), or wealth disparities in this country. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: To further my point, I wonder how many $4,000 per month health insurance premium checks you had to write in the years immediately following the passage of the ACA? Many of my friends and their families were faced with the harsh reality that they either pony up the 4K a month or suffer the consequences of an illness bankrupting their future.  So...how many monthly 4k checks did you have to write?  To my eyes, it seems so much easier to support destructive economic policies when you are on the receiving end.  So....how many monthly checks?  I'm waiting. I have a family of 4 and never had to dole out 4k a month during Obama's time, so I have no idea what kind of coverage they required or their health backgrounds. Sounds like they must have had some serious health concerns. So, some of your friends had to pay high costs, so you hate the ACA?? Nice argument. Didn't impact you in any way? Love the friends argument. Talk about weak. Deezy. This is where your mind is disconnected from what was happening in the real world. Obviously, we all have different families and friends and we all live in different financial and economic circles. I can assure you, as I am sure Rush can chime in on, that people were getting hosed by the ACA. I'm surprised you are oblivious to the fact, but this is where you and I have a tremendous disconnect.  Rush...please chime in with some of the experiences you witnessed so Deezy can wake up and smell the coffee.

I, like most people, had to pay more in healthcare at my employer..    That simple.  Like I said earlier,  I shouldn't have to subsidize someone else's healthcare,  but DEMS don't believe in personal responsibility. 

I think it was Patrick Henry that said  "" Give me Liberty And Healthcare, or give me Death !!""

... not to be outdone,  Thomas Jefferson stated that  we are all granted  certain unalienable rights,  from our creator.... 

"" Life , Liberty, the pursuit of Happiness,  and Healthcare !!!! 

 

Right MIDNIGHT,  right Fubah, right deezy ?!  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: To further my point, I wonder how many $4,000 per month health insurance premium checks you had to write in the years immediately following the passage of the ACA? Many of my friends and their families were faced with the harsh reality that they either pony up the 4K a month or suffer the consequences of an illness bankrupting their future.  So...how many monthly 4k checks did you have to write?  To my eyes, it seems so much easier to support destructive economic policies when you are on the receiving end.  So....how many monthly checks?  I'm waiting. I have a family of 4 and never had to dole out 4k a month during Obama's time, so I have no idea what kind of coverage they required or their health backgrounds. Sounds like they must have had some serious health concerns. So, some of your friends had to pay high costs, so you hate the ACA?? Nice argument. Didn't impact you in any way? Love the friends argument. Talk about weak. Deezy. This is where your mind is disconnected from what was happening in the real world. Obviously, we all have different families and friends and we all live in different financial and economic circles. I can assure you, as I am sure Rush can chime in on, that people were getting hosed by the ACA. I'm surprised you are oblivious to the fact, but this is where you and I have a tremendous disconnect.  Rush...please chime in with some of the experiences you witnessed so Deezy can wake up and smell the coffee. I, like most people, had to pay more in healthcare at my employer..    That simple.  Like I said earlier,  I shouldn't have to subsidize someone else's healthcare,  but DEMS don't believe in personal responsibility.  I think it was Patrick Henry that said  "" Give me Liberty And Healthcare, or give me Death !!"" ... not to be outdone,  Thomas Jefferson stated that  we are all granted  certain unalienable rights,  from our creator....  "" Life , Liberty, the pursuit of Happiness,  and Healthcare !!!!    Right MIDNIGHT,  right Fubah, right deezy ?!

Yeah Dems are such POS'. That is why they live in the highest earning cities, with the highest wages, and pay more in taxes. I'm sure those rural Republicans are so tired of carrying the economy on their backs for the rest of the country. Those Dems display no responsibility, so lazyyy. So truee. an_roll_laugh

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:  

 

Fubah, Can you teach this guy for the 10th time what rising income and wealth inequality means? It is clear he has no concept of either term, despite us both showing him numerous articles that shows a modest rise in blue collar wages is not closing income or wealth inequality. Income and/or wealth inequality continue to rise to the highest point in 70 years, which does not show that the "wage gap" is shrinking. You clearly lack critical thinking skills. Your source and article are weak and prove nothing. A rise in blue collar wages for 2 months does nothing to close the income (wages), or wealth disparities in this country.

You did a really good job but OK.  Who you talkn'bout ? ................Ohh.........It's MUSH .............oy vey!  I dunno man. When it comes to ignoring facts, refusing to acknowledge truth, and avoiding anything resembling solid logic -- his kung-fu is very strong......so I really don't think anything will get through to him. His bubble has fortified shielding.

Like most stubborn adolf-fart-lovers they have their minds made up BEFORE the facts are presented.... then they just flail away and hope to outlast you in a war of attrition so they can proclaim themselves victorious.  I mean, their guy is a bonafide LOSER so that's pretty much all they can do...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

Yet another drag on the American economy is ObamaCare, his signature legislation and crowning achievement. Remember when Obama repeatedly told you that under his plan you could keep your doctor, you keep your plan and that that it would drive down overall health costs to the point the average family would save $2,500 a year? And how ObamaCare would actually reduce the deficit?

 

Well said, chadebennett.

I am sure Deezy and Fubar will ask you to find a link for them... maybe even MIDNIGHT,  too. Lol.

The lovable losing trio  !   It has a ring to it !!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett: Yet another drag on the American economy is ObamaCare, his signature legislation and crowning achievement. Remember when Obama repeatedly told you that under his plan you could keep your doctor, you keep your plan and that that it would drive down overall health costs to the point the average family would save $2,500 a year? And how ObamaCare would actually reduce the deficit?   Well said, chadebennett. I am sure Deezy and Fubar will ask you to find a link for them... maybe even MIDNIGHT,  too. Lol. The lovable losing trio  !   It has a ring to it !!

Chadbennett=Kayeleigh McEnany

No sources. No facts. All nonsense, similar to you. Match made in heaven. an_cheers

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: I don't have anything intelligent to respond with !  I am defeated !   well that's different

Your copy/cut skills are incredible  !!!

Here's your reward!!win

 
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Quote Originally Posted by mush51:

Like I said earlier,  I shouldn't have to subsidize someone else's healthcare,  but DEMS don't believe in personal responsibility.  I think it was Patrick Henry that said  "" Give me Liberty And Healthcare, or give me Death !!"" ... not to be outdone,  Thomas Jefferson stated that  we are all granted  certain unalienable rights,  from our creator....  "" Life , Liberty, the pursuit of Happiness,  and Healthcare !!!!    Right MIDNIGHT,  right Fubah, right deezy ?!

And yet THAT'S THE LAW.

 

I suppose that logic follows that all singles and couple WITHOUT children should NOT have to pay more in taxes just for other people to have kids in a publicly funded school.

I shouldn't have to pay more in taxes because some fat narcissist wants to GOLF.

I/we shouldn't have to pay such high health premiums to begin with since it's all based on data from other people getting sick, Type 1 diabetes, asthma, birth defects, sports & other injuries, victims of gunshot, victims of drunk-driving & manslaughter, victims of a deadly contagion TRUMP allowed to proliferate in our country, etc, etc.

It's all the same argument, whether it's specifically about insurance or not.

But the usual comeback from adolf-lovers is to "blame the victims" for higher base costs.

And this from the same "mush" whose logic is to send his kids out to play in the hot sun for HOURS, *without* sunscreen, and when they get sunburt and in agony, BLAME THE SUN

 

 
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Even Fox News anchors realize Trump lies about Obama's record.... Hilarious. From today. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-host-neil-cavuto-cuts-away-from-trump-speech-to-note-it-mischaracterized-obamas-record

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If you are asking Rush to chime in, you have already lost the discussion gamble.  Many of us in here have owned our own business & if you are now bitching about your medical cost, you should never have retired. Like others I have no problem paying a little more for my fellow Americans. Exactly, the guy claims to be so wealthy and rich, and yet is complaining about the costs of healthcare insurance, which proves that he is neither. The truly rich and wealthy do not complain about healthcare insurance costs or taxes.

There are ""Uber wealthy"" people  that wish for the Government to tax them more... these are your Warren buffet,  Jeff Bezos,  Bill Gates type people.... most hard working entrepreneurs WOULD complain about rising healthcare insurance and taxes.

I even found a link for you,  which you will find useful ;

www.COMMONSENSE.com

 

an_roll_laugh

 

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Even Fox News anchors realize Trump lies about Obama's record.... Hilarious. From today.  https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-host-neil-cavuto-cuts-away-from-trump-speech-to-note-it-mischaracterized-obamas-record

AWESOME!

from your source:


Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto

 cut into a White House speech by President Donald Trump on Thursday
to once again correct some mischaracterizations the president made,
specifically over former President Barack Obama’s economic record,
which Cavuto noted was very solid.

“I do want to clarify a couple of things he said, that
'no president in history has cut regulations as much as he has.'
That is true,” he noted, adding: “I think [Trump] might have
mischaracterized the regulations that were added under Barack Obama.”

Cavuto added we “might recall we had this little thing called
the financial meltdown” and that many of the regulations were
put in place to prevent banks from selling risky mortgage securities,
which helped cause the financial crisis.

The veteran Fox anchor then dispelled the notion that the
post-meltdown regulations damaged the economy under Obama.

“The unemployment rate did, under Barack Obama, go down from a
high of 10 percent to around 4.7 percent,” Cavuto stated.

Additionally, the Fox host said,
“it was not a disaster under Barack Obama,”
pointing out that the Dow Jones tripled during the 44th president’s
tenure and that companies did “very well.”

“Americans did very, very well,” he concluded.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If you are asking Rush to chime in, you have already lost the discussion gamble.  Many of us in here have owned our own business & if you are now bitching about your medical cost, you should never have retired. Like others I have no problem paying a little more for my fellow Americans. Exactly, the guy claims to be so wealthy and rich, and yet is complaining about the costs of healthcare insurance, which proves that he is neither. The truly rich and wealthy do not complain about healthcare insurance costs or taxes. There are ""Uber wealthy"" people  that wish for the Government to tax them more... these are your Warren buffet,  Jeff Bezos,  Bill Gates type people.... most hard working entrepreneurs WOULD complain about rising healthcare insurance and taxes. I even found a link for you,  which you will find useful ; www.COMMONSENSE.com

Rich and wealthy entrepreneurs do not complain and whine on message boards about paying more for their premiums. Your boy Gambleaholic was claiming how rich and successful he is, yet crying about paying more for healthcare costs. Something doesn't add up. an_roll_laugh

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