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Also, in all fairness, comparing todays superbowl to those of days past is ridiculous. As the superbowls add up, there will be tons of new stats to exploit.
If theres anything that all this Goodell and Safety media has done, its show the world that this game is changing. Were in a transition period. The game is getting "Safer," and younger. This game will confirm it.
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collectNOW | 4 |
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i mean line
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lefty84hz | 30 |
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I just sang it to myself at a rather average pace (according to me), and got 1 minute and 12 seconds.
The big thing is the gap after the word "Wave," and the elongation of the final verse.
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lefty84hz | 30 |
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From Charlotte. Looks like the NC crew is going with SF.
The only areas head to head where the Ravens might be better are at WR and experience. However, the receiving core for Baltimore isn't anywhere near the levels of Green Bay and definitely not Atlanta. Nor is Flacco on the level of Matt Ryan or Rodgers. The Ravens experience means nothing if they can't plan for CK, who has very limited film. The Ravens barely got by the Broncos. And yes, the 49ers barely got by the Falcons, but that point is moot because both of them would get my pick against the Ravens. |
1919 | 14 |
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Not to mention they stretch the Defense.
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degengambler34 | 4 |
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Moss MVP -33/1
Vernon Davis MVP -14/1 Reasoning: They are both extremely capable of being called upon in the redzone, and will have a huge argument if one gets 2 TDs. Its a longshot, obviously, but those odds are pretty good.
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degengambler34 | 4 |
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Quote Originally Posted by brnada109: Matt Ravens win it too many people on the 9ers.....everyone I know thinks 9ers win it !!!!!!!! RAVENNATION BABYYYYYYYY I'll gladly eat my crow if the 49ers lose this. However, I have only read 3 posts from Raven's backers: and one called CK a rookie, one discredited my entire reasonable post and said to back the Ravens and not these "butt clowns," and then this guy who trashes rule #1 of bankroll management. the 4th is you, who claims the 49ers are the public favorite.
I know the experts are on the Ravens too, which is legitimate. The Ravens have their arguments, but the fact that the majority of these people are on the Ravens leads me to believe that Vegas has a big clue on what they are doing. |
brnada109 | 17 |
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Quote Originally Posted by samiam21: i like the 49ers as well, i think the line is 4 for a reason. in kinda thinking the over as well though, i see a 28 to 21 kinda game. i see randy moss having a big game esp after all the talking he has done If both offenses come to play this has the potential to be probably the highest scoring superbowl. But I just think Flacco becomes overwhelmed and back to ordinary Joe, and the Ravens are forced to be one dimensional, while the new school 49ers offense confuses the Ravens D just enough.
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OUfanAP12 | 14 |
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In addition, I cannot stand the use of trends comparing this game to superbowls of years past.
If there is anything that is apparent from all this Goodell and safety media, its that this game is changing, and you are COMPLETELY selling yourself short if you take those things with anything more than a grain of salt.
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OUfanAP12 | 14 |
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Kaepernick is in his 2nd year. Brady/Warner did something very similar to what CK can do.
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irage | 19 |
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It just seems perfect. It fades the public. It fades the experts, and in an essence, that's how its done.
I can understand why you would pick the Ravens. They have been playing great and are riding high off of some great wins against the class of the AFC. They have a great defense, a great running game and as far as experience goes, they have the advantage. I'm fading the Ravens because the teams they played in the playoffs haven't really been challenged this year. New England is a great team, but they have obviously been on the decline. Not to mention, they better go 12-4 with that offense while playing the Jets, Phins, and Bills twice a year. Their pass d is horrific and we saw that against the Ravens. The Broncos ended the season great winning 11 straight. 5 of them were against their own division, 3 against NFC South teams not named Atlanta, and Cincinnati, Cleveland, and the Ravens(The only win they had that was really worth a damn) The Ravens beating them both is great, but the NFC is better. The 49ers would have demolished the Pats had that game been in San Francisco. The first area where the 49ers might be outmatched is by the Ravens passing game, but Flacco is not Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan, and Boldin/Smith do not play with the physicality of Jones/White/Gonzales, or the cohesion of the Packers receiving core(Or Atlanta's). The second is by the experience of the Ravens defense. They played some high power offenses these playoffs, but how many times have they played a dual threat qb? Ill tell you. Twice. At Philly, and at Washington. How many times have they played Kaepernick? Never. How much game film? Limited. You can't say that with Brady or Manning. Did you see what happened with Cam and RGIII when no one knew just how they would be entering the NFL? Defenses were absolutely blindsided. The Ravens experience doesn't mean anything if they cannot collectively plan for something. And the 49ers defense played the Ravens last year. They lost, but they held them to 16 points, not to mention that the 49ers assumed the role of a top tier team in the NFL AFTER that game. So there is my take on it. Four points just seems like the perfect line to get everybody to jump on the Ravens. The game has an OBVIOUSLY high chance of being close, but everybody and their mom can put 2+2 together with the reasoning of the Ravens defensive experience + Kaepernicks inexperience. The 49ers have seen it all. The Ravens beat overrated, albeit great teams on the downfall, and are now facing a great team that is STILL on the rise. Randy Moss -4 and the Under 49ers 24 ravens 14 Tail or Fade, those are my picks. OUfanAP12 - Good luck everyone
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OUfanAP12 | 14 |
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I was just thinking that until the Brewer came in.
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jmj8829 | 3 |
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I mean we've been waiting a while right? Just doesn't look like its going to happen. The over looked so promising in the 3rd.
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OUfanAP12 | 1 |
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Bengals @ Jacksonville O43.5
...I don't trust Blaine Gabbert, but I trust him more then ever at home against a depleted Bengals defense. MJD will get his yards and hopefully there will be many completed drives by both teams. I don't expect a shootout, but I don't expect many punts. Maybe a few busted runs by MJD and bombs to AJ Green. Dalton is legit and the Bengals offense will definitely get some points...I think this game will exceed 50 Raiders @ Broncos U49 ...Denver has played 3 great offenses (Pitt/Atl/Hou) and is still 14th in drush ypg and 15th in pass yards. They let up a lot of points, but they're at home and against a division rival will help the D step up. Oakland is without Heyward-Bay, and McFadden and Goodson are a little banged up. Manning will control the offense, hopefully limit turnovers...27 10 Broncos Giants @ Eagles NYG+1 (+100) To be quite honest...this is a bit of a homer pick. I'm a Panthers fan, and the way the Giants played last Thursday was pretty amazing. I just believe the value here is too good to pass up...especially against a struggling Philly offense Seahawks @ Rams STL +3 (-115) ...Coming off that handed win last week, I still don't trust the Seahawks. The defense is great, and will keep them in the game, but Bradford has played well this year minus the Chicago game. I think this trend continues and if he doesn't turn the ball over, I think they'll sneak this one. Their defense can definitely contain Russell Wilson. However, I still think the Rams pull this one in the weeks most boring game. Best of Luck
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OUfanAP12 | 1 |
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Heres my take on the Panthers as a Panthers fan...take it for what its worth.
I'm going to assume that the majority of people here expect the Panthers to suck or shine, and considering that this is a team with many pros and cons, its pretty easy to see why. The good came with the bad. Its just that the good had a bunch of fancy highlight reel plays that could kind of overshadow just how bad the panthers D was last year. I won't say that the Panthers will put up the same numbers as last year, but they should be a lot more efficient. I believe Newton's #s were blown up from his first 2 games. I believe ~3600 yards with an improved completion percentage, ~3-5:1 Touchdown/INT ratio, and similar rushing stats as last year would be good #s to expect if he continues at his rate. Is Cam Newton on the same level as Rodgers, Brady, etc? No. Not until he proves it this year. However, is the rest of the Panthers offense on par with other top offenses? For the most part yes. The Oline is decent and will be really good if Bell works out, and Steve Smith, Olsen, DeAngelo, and Stewart are great at what they do. The group is just as cohesive as the other top offensive units in the game. I mean, they have to be if they weathered the disaster that was 2 years ago. The key parts of that offense got through that and now have a team that can do things this year. The cohesiveness and talent from the rest of the offense will help Newton continue to prosper. That and...despite all the Cam Newton shots that are taken about his big head and cocky attitude...I'm not gonna talk about his morality...I'm not too sure about that..but he comes to work everyday and is driven to prove doubters wrong. He work ethic is relentless. That being said, the offense is what I expect the true Pro that this team has. I expect maybe less numbers, but expect the Panthers to still have that homerun threat on every play and to be miles more efficient. The Con is the defense, and the reason why I'm not too quick to declare the playoffs or even the over on this to be honest. Here are the teams the Panthers will play (In no order): Tampa Bay x 2, New Orleans x 2, Atlanta x 2, Seattle, Chicago, NYG, Dallas, Philly, Washington, Denver, KC, San Diego, Oakland. Each one of those teams has multiple players on their offense that can give the Panthers D problems. I expect Beason, Edwards, Davis, and Keuchly to be impacts on the run game, and for those problems to be somewhat lessened. The pass D is bad though. Gamble is decent, and the rest are bad. Every quarterback is able to pick apart that D. In a dreamworld, the run D improves, and a more efficient panthers offense just keeps the other offense on the bench, and hopefully that'll cure a lot of the secondary holes. However, you just can't say that. If the Panthers offense proves to be for real and the D issues are lessened for the most part, I can see the Panthers going as good as 11-5, maybe even 12-4. However 6-10, 7-9 is completely possible if the D isn't fixed. Especially with the offenses in their division. However...the Panthers play a lot of their bigger games at home, and Charlotte is going to be a tough place to play in this year. The city is fired up. Weeks 2/3 against the Saints and Giants will be huge, and if they pull both(Or win w1 @Tampa and against NYG), that could just be the boost they need to be a winning team for the rest of the season. The other big games at home include Dallas, Denver, New Orleans, and Atlanta. I think 9-7 is what I would go with, but I'm not too sure if that will be good enough for the playoffs in the NFC
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andarmac99 | 64 |
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: He had a good year last year and a great playoff game vs NO in 2010. If 4.2 ypc is good then sure. That playoff game...or touchdown run for that matter is the only reason Lynch is even considered a threat. His numbers are always sub-par for what his hype is.
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raffchfd | 15 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Niners13: Their season was over anyway plus Lynch is overrated. Really hard to find a back that averages 4 yards a carry.... this. Beast Mode is beyond overrated
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raffchfd | 15 |
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Quote Originally Posted by OUfanAP12: Considering that the Bucs got shat on by Cam both times last year, I hope the reason you're picking the Bucs ML is strictly ML and the hope that they catch the Panthers off guard lol. GL though strictly revenge that is
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henrydaman | 7 |
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Considering that the Bucs got shat on by Cam both times last year, I hope the reason you're picking the Bucs ML is strictly ML and the hope that they catch the Panthers off guard lol.
GL though
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henrydaman | 7 |
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I'm a Panthers fan, and although I love what happened last year, our draft, and even with Kalil, I won't be happy until it actually happens.
I will say that as far as bold statements go, I think the Colts have a huge shot at being that surprise team. 7 of the Colts 14 losses were by a TD or less. If Luck can be even 75% of what Newton was last year(He definitely can), then I think the Colts are a Darkhorse playoff contender. Reason 1...4 games against the Jags and Titans. Reason 2...Here are the Colts first 8 games 1) At Chicago 2) Home vs. Minnesota 3) Home vs. Jax 4) Home vs Green Bay 5) At the Jets 6) Home vs. Cleveland 7) @ Tennessee 8) Home v Miami With a bad start and an obvious rookie/rebuilding situation, the Colts could EASILY start 1-7/2-6. However, if Luck shows flashes of brilliance much like Cam, the team starts to believe in him(Which they already do), and the Defense follows suit, they could easily start this season anywhere from 4-4 to 6-2. Once again this is purely speculative. However, if Luck pans out well, the soft schedule could really help the Colts and their confidence out. |
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