With Rourke and Finn entering the portal, Ohio and Toledo are now the Running Dogs. Don't both of these teams have experienced backups??
Toledo seems to have a serviceable backup (TuckerGleason) and he had more playing time last year but when he came in this year did okay. At least he’s seen some action.
OU not really sure about this one lol. The back up isn’t playing either. 3rd string is a senior but looks like he just came in at the end of games his whole career.
Was looking at JMU earlier. I saw the long list of players out and hitting the transfer portal, and thinking to bet Air Force if the qb comes back. Then at the bottom of the source, it says all players for JMU in the transfer portal are expected to play….lol.
Tough navigating all the updates…
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
With Rourke and Finn entering the portal, Ohio and Toledo are now the Running Dogs. Don't both of these teams have experienced backups??
Toledo seems to have a serviceable backup (TuckerGleason) and he had more playing time last year but when he came in this year did okay. At least he’s seen some action.
OU not really sure about this one lol. The back up isn’t playing either. 3rd string is a senior but looks like he just came in at the end of games his whole career.
Was looking at JMU earlier. I saw the long list of players out and hitting the transfer portal, and thinking to bet Air Force if the qb comes back. Then at the bottom of the source, it says all players for JMU in the transfer portal are expected to play….lol.
Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: With Rourke and Finn entering the portal, Ohio and Toledo are now the Running Dogs. Don't both of these teams have experienced backups?? Toledo seems to have a serviceable backup (TuckerGleason) and he had more playing time last year but when he came in this year did okay. At least he’s seen some action. OU not really sure about this one lol. The back up isn’t playing either. 3rd string is a senior but looks like he just came in at the end of games his whole career. Was looking at JMU earlier. I saw the long list of players out and hitting the transfer portal, and thinking to bet Air Force if the qb comes back. Then at the bottom of the source, it says all players for JMU in the transfer portal are expected to play….lol. Tough navigating all the updates…
Yeah, I knew the Toledo backup was pretty experienced. Both Ohio and Toledo are now running dogs, but I haven't played them yet. Their opponent Wyoming has their HC resigning and coaching his last game. I guess he'll have to go out a loser. As for Ohio, they haven't been great on offense all season, so I'm not sure how much of a downgrade there will be from Rourke. Ohio has the HUGE defensive edge in that game. I just saw today where Ohio State is now technically a Running Dog. But here's the problem I have with the Buckeyes:
McCord QB: Portal
Harrison: NFL (likely sits out)
Egbuka: NFL (likely sits out)
Henderson RB: NFL (likely sits out)
Trayanum RB: Portal
Pryor RB: Portal
Fleming WR: Portal
Tuimoloau DE: NFL (likely sits out)
Hall: NFL (likely sits out)
Sawyer: NFL (likely sits out)
Burke CB: NFL (likely sits out)
Eichenberg LB: NFL (likely sits out)
Proctor S: NFL (likely sits out)
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Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo:
Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: With Rourke and Finn entering the portal, Ohio and Toledo are now the Running Dogs. Don't both of these teams have experienced backups?? Toledo seems to have a serviceable backup (TuckerGleason) and he had more playing time last year but when he came in this year did okay. At least he’s seen some action. OU not really sure about this one lol. The back up isn’t playing either. 3rd string is a senior but looks like he just came in at the end of games his whole career. Was looking at JMU earlier. I saw the long list of players out and hitting the transfer portal, and thinking to bet Air Force if the qb comes back. Then at the bottom of the source, it says all players for JMU in the transfer portal are expected to play….lol. Tough navigating all the updates…
Yeah, I knew the Toledo backup was pretty experienced. Both Ohio and Toledo are now running dogs, but I haven't played them yet. Their opponent Wyoming has their HC resigning and coaching his last game. I guess he'll have to go out a loser. As for Ohio, they haven't been great on offense all season, so I'm not sure how much of a downgrade there will be from Rourke. Ohio has the HUGE defensive edge in that game. I just saw today where Ohio State is now technically a Running Dog. But here's the problem I have with the Buckeyes:
Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo: Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: With Rourke and Finn entering the portal, Ohio and Toledo are now the Running Dogs. Don't both of these teams have experienced backups?? Toledo seems to have a serviceable backup (TuckerGleason) and he had more playing time last year but when he came in this year did okay. At least he’s seen some action. OU not really sure about this one lol. The back up isn’t playing either. 3rd string is a senior but looks like he just came in at the end of games his whole career. Was looking at JMU earlier. I saw the long list of players out and hitting the transfer portal, and thinking to bet Air Force if the qb comes back. Then at the bottom of the source, it says all players for JMU in the transfer portal are expected to play….lol. Tough navigating all the updates…Yeah, I knew the Toledo backup was pretty experienced. Both Ohio and Toledo are now running dogs, but I haven't played them yet. Their opponent Wyoming has their HC resigning and coaching his last game. I guess he'll have to go out a loser. As for Ohio, they haven't been great on offense all season, so I'm not sure how much of a downgrade there will be from Rourke. Ohio has the HUGE defensive edge in that game. I just saw today where Ohio State is now technically a Running Dog. But here's the problem I have with the Buckeyes: McCord QB: Portal Harrison: NFL (likely sits out) Egbuka: NFL (likely sits out) Henderson RB: NFL (likely sits out) Trayanum RB: Portal Pryor RB: Portal Fleming WR: Portal Tuimoloau DE: NFL (likely sits out) Hall: NFL (likely sits out) Sawyer: NFL (likely sits out) Burke CB: NFL (likely sits out) Eichenberg LB: NFL (likely sits out) Proctor S: NFL (likely sits out)
As Ohio State alumni I hate the fact OSU will not show up for a bowl game. With that said, I just bet Missouri lol. Hate getting the worst of the number but I like Missouri to win. The Buckeyes were real shaky at the beginning of the season with McCord adjusting, and at one point back up (Brown) was in the games competing for the job. Devin Brown did not look good. The whole offense will be out...Marvin Harrison, Ebuka (2nd best receiver), Fleming, and not to mention tight end Cade Stover going to the NFL. Star running back Henderson no way he plays because he was banged up all year. The back up running back hit the portal. The Missouri coach said that they have only one player not playing (injury). Maybe Missouri has a few guys not play after all, but the ones that do will be motivated to play in a big game and beat the Bucks. This will be a battle tested SEC team playing at full strength against a stripped down to nothing Buckeyes team...
Play the game. Don’t let the game play you.
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo: Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: With Rourke and Finn entering the portal, Ohio and Toledo are now the Running Dogs. Don't both of these teams have experienced backups?? Toledo seems to have a serviceable backup (TuckerGleason) and he had more playing time last year but when he came in this year did okay. At least he’s seen some action. OU not really sure about this one lol. The back up isn’t playing either. 3rd string is a senior but looks like he just came in at the end of games his whole career. Was looking at JMU earlier. I saw the long list of players out and hitting the transfer portal, and thinking to bet Air Force if the qb comes back. Then at the bottom of the source, it says all players for JMU in the transfer portal are expected to play….lol. Tough navigating all the updates…Yeah, I knew the Toledo backup was pretty experienced. Both Ohio and Toledo are now running dogs, but I haven't played them yet. Their opponent Wyoming has their HC resigning and coaching his last game. I guess he'll have to go out a loser. As for Ohio, they haven't been great on offense all season, so I'm not sure how much of a downgrade there will be from Rourke. Ohio has the HUGE defensive edge in that game. I just saw today where Ohio State is now technically a Running Dog. But here's the problem I have with the Buckeyes: McCord QB: Portal Harrison: NFL (likely sits out) Egbuka: NFL (likely sits out) Henderson RB: NFL (likely sits out) Trayanum RB: Portal Pryor RB: Portal Fleming WR: Portal Tuimoloau DE: NFL (likely sits out) Hall: NFL (likely sits out) Sawyer: NFL (likely sits out) Burke CB: NFL (likely sits out) Eichenberg LB: NFL (likely sits out) Proctor S: NFL (likely sits out)
As Ohio State alumni I hate the fact OSU will not show up for a bowl game. With that said, I just bet Missouri lol. Hate getting the worst of the number but I like Missouri to win. The Buckeyes were real shaky at the beginning of the season with McCord adjusting, and at one point back up (Brown) was in the games competing for the job. Devin Brown did not look good. The whole offense will be out...Marvin Harrison, Ebuka (2nd best receiver), Fleming, and not to mention tight end Cade Stover going to the NFL. Star running back Henderson no way he plays because he was banged up all year. The back up running back hit the portal. The Missouri coach said that they have only one player not playing (injury). Maybe Missouri has a few guys not play after all, but the ones that do will be motivated to play in a big game and beat the Bucks. This will be a battle tested SEC team playing at full strength against a stripped down to nothing Buckeyes team...
I'm kind of liking Mizzou too. I probably should have pulled the trigger on them when they opened at +6.5. But this portal stuff is messing with my head.
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@MrFreedo
I'm kind of liking Mizzou too. I probably should have pulled the trigger on them when they opened at +6.5. But this portal stuff is messing with my head.
Thanks Wolf. These running dogs were the only games I bet blindly when they opened pre-portal news. I wanted to make sure I got the good number with these teams because of how much many of these lines have historically changed during the bowls.
If you guys were wondering how the Running Dogs do in the bowls, in the 17 bowl seasons that we've been tracking them, they've had four losing seasons and three .500 seasons. Bowl games are tricky in any year, but this portal business is changing the way I handicap these games. We've now got so many bowls (some with losing teams) and opt outs, that more and more of these schools aren't taking these games serious. It's tough trying to cap a scrimmage.
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@wolfeman3
Thanks Wolf. These running dogs were the only games I bet blindly when they opened pre-portal news. I wanted to make sure I got the good number with these teams because of how much many of these lines have historically changed during the bowls.
If you guys were wondering how the Running Dogs do in the bowls, in the 17 bowl seasons that we've been tracking them, they've had four losing seasons and three .500 seasons. Bowl games are tricky in any year, but this portal business is changing the way I handicap these games. We've now got so many bowls (some with losing teams) and opt outs, that more and more of these schools aren't taking these games serious. It's tough trying to cap a scrimmage.
Given all the tOSU opts out, I would lean Mizzou -2.5. But I'm sticking with the under while I can still get it at a key number (49). The only thing that bugs me about the spread is I've always had a handicapping rule not to take teams favored over teams with more overall talent. Arizona falls into that same category against OU. Of course there are always mitigating circumstances like the Buckeyes losing half of their starters. I think the key for them is can Ryan Day mold a half a dozen 4 star backups into a competitive team in the 3 weeks. That's where the guessing part comes in. The Buckeyes are a deep team on defense. I don't think will get as bad on that side of the ball. Thus the under.
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Ohio State/Mizzou under 49
Given all the tOSU opts out, I would lean Mizzou -2.5. But I'm sticking with the under while I can still get it at a key number (49). The only thing that bugs me about the spread is I've always had a handicapping rule not to take teams favored over teams with more overall talent. Arizona falls into that same category against OU. Of course there are always mitigating circumstances like the Buckeyes losing half of their starters. I think the key for them is can Ryan Day mold a half a dozen 4 star backups into a competitive team in the 3 weeks. That's where the guessing part comes in. The Buckeyes are a deep team on defense. I don't think will get as bad on that side of the ball. Thus the under.
Gabriel out for Oklahoma.....pretty sure that line opened at OU -3.....so you're system woulda been on it.....
I was hearing this afternoon that they aren't completely ruling out Dillon Gabriel playing in the Alamo Bowl. He said he would make his decision somewhere down the line. Hopefully soon.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Gabriel out for Oklahoma.....pretty sure that line opened at OU -3.....so you're system woulda been on it.....
I was hearing this afternoon that they aren't completely ruling out Dillon Gabriel playing in the Alamo Bowl. He said he would make his decision somewhere down the line. Hopefully soon.
GS just flipped (depending on the book) and is now a Running Dog. Looks like their leading rusher Marcus Carroll entered the portal, but QB Grainger still there. I still expect them to have plenty of success against Utah State's rush defense that gives up 200 ypg (4.9 ypc).
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Georgia State +1.5
GS just flipped (depending on the book) and is now a Running Dog. Looks like their leading rusher Marcus Carroll entered the portal, but QB Grainger still there. I still expect them to have plenty of success against Utah State's rush defense that gives up 200 ypg (4.9 ypc).
Good work Doc! I love your Running Dogs Paradigm... Trying to cap this bowl season sucks...With the Tr Portal, there is a new dynamic to cap...I don't even think the sharps have a clue...And perhaps that creates opportunities for the rest of us...GL
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Good work Doc! I love your Running Dogs Paradigm... Trying to cap this bowl season sucks...With the Tr Portal, there is a new dynamic to cap...I don't even think the sharps have a clue...And perhaps that creates opportunities for the rest of us...GL
Good work Doc! I love your Running Dogs Paradigm... Trying to cap this bowl season sucks...With the Tr Portal, there is a new dynamic to cap...I don't even think the sharps have a clue...And perhaps that creates opportunities for the rest of us...GL
It sucks because the portal is becoming the wild wild west. It's even worse this season because so many G5 players are trying the portal waters. It's getting to the point where college football is just a game of "ringers" with players no longer having any loyalty to their alma mater. The good old days are gone. I just wish for the sake of us poor handicappers, they would keep the portal closed until after the bowls.
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
Good work Doc! I love your Running Dogs Paradigm... Trying to cap this bowl season sucks...With the Tr Portal, there is a new dynamic to cap...I don't even think the sharps have a clue...And perhaps that creates opportunities for the rest of us...GL
It sucks because the portal is becoming the wild wild west. It's even worse this season because so many G5 players are trying the portal waters. It's getting to the point where college football is just a game of "ringers" with players no longer having any loyalty to their alma mater. The good old days are gone. I just wish for the sake of us poor handicappers, they would keep the portal closed until after the bowls.
Boise has been a hot team down the stretch and this is a tight line, but I don't see any real advantage for them in this game. They play good defense (allows 4 ypc), but the Bruins play it better (2.4 ypc). Boise is a very good running team (5 ypc), but the Bruins are just behind them at 4.8 ypc against better competition. The Bruins haven't won a bowl game since 2014, and have never won one under Chip Kelly. I'm betting Chipper is a little hungry to get this win, especially since it's the first G5 opponent that he's faced in a bowl game. A couple of opt outs on D for the Bruins, but they still have a great defense. And it's offset by a couple opt outs from Boise including QB Green. So in my opinion it's a wash.
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UCLA -2
Boise has been a hot team down the stretch and this is a tight line, but I don't see any real advantage for them in this game. They play good defense (allows 4 ypc), but the Bruins play it better (2.4 ypc). Boise is a very good running team (5 ypc), but the Bruins are just behind them at 4.8 ypc against better competition. The Bruins haven't won a bowl game since 2014, and have never won one under Chip Kelly. I'm betting Chipper is a little hungry to get this win, especially since it's the first G5 opponent that he's faced in a bowl game. A couple of opt outs on D for the Bruins, but they still have a great defense. And it's offset by a couple opt outs from Boise including QB Green. So in my opinion it's a wash.
UCLA -2 Boise has been a hot team down the stretch and this is a tight line, but I don't see any real advantage for them in this game. They play good defense (allows 4 ypc), but the Bruins play it better (2.4 ypc). Boise is a very good running team (5 ypc), but the Bruins are just behind them at 4.8 ypc against better competition. The Bruins haven't won a bowl game since 2014, and have never won one under Chip Kelly. I'm betting Chipper is a little hungry to get this win, especially since it's the first G5 opponent that he's faced in a bowl game. A couple of opt outs on D for the Bruins, but they still have a great defense. And it's offset by a couple opt outs from Boise including QB Green. So in my opinion it's a wash.
Doc, Didn't USC steal UCLA's Defensive Coordinator last week ?
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
UCLA -2 Boise has been a hot team down the stretch and this is a tight line, but I don't see any real advantage for them in this game. They play good defense (allows 4 ypc), but the Bruins play it better (2.4 ypc). Boise is a very good running team (5 ypc), but the Bruins are just behind them at 4.8 ypc against better competition. The Bruins haven't won a bowl game since 2014, and have never won one under Chip Kelly. I'm betting Chipper is a little hungry to get this win, especially since it's the first G5 opponent that he's faced in a bowl game. A couple of opt outs on D for the Bruins, but they still have a great defense. And it's offset by a couple opt outs from Boise including QB Green. So in my opinion it's a wash.
Doc, Didn't USC steal UCLA's Defensive Coordinator last week ?
For me, losing one coordinator doesn't change my thought process at all for these bowls. Now if both coordinators left, or the HC who is also their playcaller like Chip, that would be like losing two coaches and would be a different story.
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@WISEGUY36
For me, losing one coordinator doesn't change my thought process at all for these bowls. Now if both coordinators left, or the HC who is also their playcaller like Chip, that would be like losing two coaches and would be a different story.
Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57.
My bad. Thank you for taking the time to do the research.
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57.
My bad. Thank you for taking the time to do the research.
Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57.
Trying to decide on the OVER or the Cal TT OVER. Wondering if it will be below 28. Maybe 27.5…
Play the game. Don’t let the game play you.
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57.
Trying to decide on the OVER or the Cal TT OVER. Wondering if it will be below 28. Maybe 27.5…
Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57.
Trying to decide on the OVER or the Cal TT OVER. Wondering if it will be below 28. Maybe 27.5…
Play the game. Don’t let the game play you.
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57.
Trying to decide on the OVER or the Cal TT OVER. Wondering if it will be below 28. Maybe 27.5…
Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57. Trying to decide on the OVER or the Cal TT OVER. Wondering if it will be below 28. Maybe 27.5…
This is one of those rare games that you could probably play the OVER on about everything (Team Total, Game etc). Although I've always preferred the game total in bowls in case one team decides not to show up. Both teams missing some key players on defense, especially Cal who is missing their top 2 or 3 tacklers. And I believe TTU is missing a very good defensive back among others who have hit the portal. But they still have QB Morton, who I think is an underrated QB when he's healthy like he is now. Both teams run the ball well, although Cal runs the ball a little better and has a better run D. The only thing I don't like about the game is I haven't won one bet on Cal this season. Even when I thought they were in their best possible situational play (their clusterfuk Oregon St game was the last straw!). Anyway, the Bears aren't one of my favorite running dogs, but I do like the OVER. They used to have a great defense, but when Justin Wilcox went to the uptempo offense this year it changed the whole identity of the team, and their defense was the biggest victim of the change. It should be ripe for a high scoring game with the game being played in Shreveport with more than likely beingn conditions.
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Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo:
Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: Quote Originally Posted by boro33: Would California be a running dog?Yes, Cal is a running dog. They are on my Running Dog list (post #2). I also lean the OVER 57. Trying to decide on the OVER or the Cal TT OVER. Wondering if it will be below 28. Maybe 27.5…
This is one of those rare games that you could probably play the OVER on about everything (Team Total, Game etc). Although I've always preferred the game total in bowls in case one team decides not to show up. Both teams missing some key players on defense, especially Cal who is missing their top 2 or 3 tacklers. And I believe TTU is missing a very good defensive back among others who have hit the portal. But they still have QB Morton, who I think is an underrated QB when he's healthy like he is now. Both teams run the ball well, although Cal runs the ball a little better and has a better run D. The only thing I don't like about the game is I haven't won one bet on Cal this season. Even when I thought they were in their best possible situational play (their clusterfuk Oregon St game was the last straw!). Anyway, the Bears aren't one of my favorite running dogs, but I do like the OVER. They used to have a great defense, but when Justin Wilcox went to the uptempo offense this year it changed the whole identity of the team, and their defense was the biggest victim of the change. It should be ripe for a high scoring game with the game being played in Shreveport with more than likely beingn conditions.
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