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How much hours HAVE YOU ALL spent on "political party" or "war" forums arguing with pro war people?

How many?

ZERO.

Oh thats right, it is more important to spent most of my time arguing day and night about people who put a few signs up about person sexuality than for your govt to go and drop bombs on innocent babies and rape 15 year old girls.......

COVERS FRAUDS EXPOSED.......

 
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So now you are agreeing that a supernatural world exists?


no, he's pointing out how stupid your argument is...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

The burden of proof is on the theist.  You must prove god exists.  Nice try though.

I already answered this invalid statement from you back on pg. 69 #1717. Are you running out on things to say or ask? The sooner you and others are done with your questions the sooner this thread will end...you get it?...lol Anyway below is my response to your invalid statement.

No, you have to prove that He doesn't exist because if He does exist, you will go to hell for rejecting His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior while we believers will go to heaven for accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord Savior.

And at Judgment Day you can't tell Him you believed in Him and lie to Him because He is omniscient which means He has infinite knowledge and knows who are the believers and who are the non-believers and besides He can come to this thread and point out all the posts you made claiming you don't believe in Him.

You got your work cut for you son!

So what evidence do you have that He doesn't exist?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

How much hours HAVE YOU ALL spent on "political party" or "war" forums arguing with pro war people?

How many?

ZERO.

Oh thats right, it is more important to spent most of my time arguing day and night about people who put a few signs up about person sexuality than for your govt to go and drop bombs on innocent babies and rape 15 year old girls.......

COVERS FRAUDS EXPOSED.......

FRAUDS

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

I already answered this invalid statement from you back on pg. 69 #1717. Are you running out on things to say or ask? The sooner you and others are done with your questions the sooner this thread will end...you get it?...lol Anyway below is my response to your invalid statement.

No, you have to prove that He doesn't exist because if He does exist, you will go to hell for rejecting His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior while we believers will go to heaven for accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord Savior.

And at Judgment Day you can't tell Him you believed in Him and lie to Him because He is omniscient which means He has infinite knowledge and knows who are the believers and who are the non-believers and besides He can come to this thread and point out all the posts you made claiming you don't believe in Him.

You got your work cut for you son!

So what evidence do you have that He doesn't exist?

So if a person makes a ridiculous claim, it is considered fact until proven otherwise?  No dummy, the person making the ridiculous claim must prove it.  The burden of proof is on YOU.  I know this is hard for you to understand.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

I already answered this invalid statement from you back on pg. 69 #1717. Are you running out on things to say or ask? The sooner you and others are done with your questions the sooner this thread will end...you get it?...lol Anyway below is my response to your invalid statement.

No, you have to prove that He doesn't exist because if He does exist, you will go to hell for rejecting His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior while we believers will go to heaven for accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord Savior.

And at Judgment Day you can't tell Him you believed in Him and lie to Him because He is omniscient which means He has infinite knowledge and knows who are the believers and who are the non-believers and besides He can come to this thread and point out all the posts you made claiming you don't believe in Him.

You got your work cut for you son!

So what evidence do you have that He doesn't exist?

That is completely irrelevant. I don't even know how your brain formulates this as an argument. Here is why you have the burden of proof:

Right now, in this world, is there a god. Clearly, the answer is no because as Rostos said, if god exists, he exists in a supernatural world. So in order to establish that something exists beyond this world, YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT.

We don't have to disprove it because the natural belief is that nothing supernatural exists (hence the term: supernatural).

We can claim that anything exists beyond this world, not just god. If it can't be proven, should we presume it exists and place the burden on everyone else to disprove it? Surely not rational mind would say we should.

Examples: the flying spaghetti monster, harry potter, the celestial teapot, any and everything you could conceive that you can claim does not exist in this world

Should we presume all these things exist? Of course not. We should presume the flying spaghetti monster, harry potter, and celestial teapot exist until you prove me wrong? That's obviously an insane position to hold.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


So if a person makes a ridiculous claim, it is considered fact until proven otherwise?  No dummy, the person making the ridiculous claim must prove it.  The burden of proof is on YOU.  I know this is hard for you to understand.

Ridiculous claim to you but rational claim by me and little over 2 billion practicing Christians today. I (We) don't need to prove it to you or anyone else for that matter but I (We) at least made it aware to you and so I'm comfortable with that.

I can just see you at Judgment Day when the Lord looks down at you and say, "You denied Me time after time, SJD and others made you aware of Me and you still rejected Me time after time, well you are seeing Me right now, what do you have to say now? Then He does this to you

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

Ridiculous claim to you but rational claim by me and little over 2 billion practicing Christians today. I (We) don't need to prove it to you or anyone else for that matter but I (We) at least made it aware to you and so I'm comfortable with that.

I can just see you at Judgment Day when the Lord looks down at you and say, "You denied Me time after time, SJD and others made you aware of Me and you still rejected Me time after time, well you are seeing Me right now, what do you have to say now? Then He does this to you


Again you miss the point.  Whether it is ridiculous or not doesn't matter.  You must still prove your claim.  When I ask you to prove it, you know you can't, so you say, "I don't wanna!"  Good response...

And everyone knows if a lot of people believe something, it must be true.  Another good argument.  You're on a roll!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Dont you know SJD, this is how it happened.

One day there was nothing, nothing, i mean nothing.

Then all of a sudden, an explosion happened - FROM NOTHING, no one caused it, there was no "start button", it just happened by itself.

Then randomly from this explosion, laws started to form in the universe , for no reason at all, the law of gravity etc, just happened, no law giver, nothing - (when you go out in the street SJD, the rules and laws of society werent formed by an intelligent mind, they just happened, because that is how laws happen if you didnt know)

Then, one day on this earth, some lighting hit some water somewhere and there you have it, a cell was formed, even though this cell has complexity and design in it that is far more complex than anything we can imagine, it wasnt formed by a mind, but by some random ligthning hitting some pond somewhere.

The programme for internet explorer didnt have a programmer, there was an explosion at the print factory one day and it just happened by luck...

Then this cell split for no reason ,

Then some monkeys decided to go away for a walk and all off a sudden they became human.......

Thank God for the lightning......

Cool story Bro......

 But my favorite is this (Atheist: No magic. Everything happened naturally within the laws of physics. How it exactly started we do not yet know, but we have ideas. We know the big bang occurred. We aren't sure what caused it.)
 
That highlighted line about how "everything happened within the laws of physics" is a classic. Any reasonably intelligent person can only look at this comment made by this atheist and see that this person has serious mental deficiencies.  How come something supernatural happen naturally within the laws of physics. Then the line "We aren't sure what caused it" This is an admission basically of their own ignorance but they don't see that because their ego is so much in control that it has blinded them to their own stupidity.  

 
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Lemme clarify for SJD. You don't HAVE TO prove it to believe it. But if and ONLY if you wanna convince us to believe, you have to prove it as opposed to us having to disprove it.

Only consider the burden of proof in context. Clearly as with anyone's own personal beliefs, no one has to prove anything to themselves. It is only in interactions with others that a burden of proof is allocated.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


Again you miss the point.  Whether it is ridiculous or not doesn't matter.  You must still prove your claim.  When I ask you to prove it, you know you can't, so you say, "I don't wanna!"  Good response...

And everyone knows if a lot of people believe something, it must be true.  Another good argument.  You're on a roll!!

We are not here to prove but to make you aware. Where have I ever said I have proof? Show me? We have shown evidences but oh no it is like good enough for you...lol...this circular logic thing you spew out...lol

Do you want God to come visit you one night before you go to bed and have hot cocoa and oreo cookies and have Him show you a few miracles and then tell you about true past bibical stories from the Old Testament to get that proof you seek?...lol

So what evidence do you have that God doesn't exist?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

 But my favorite is this (Atheist: No magic. Everything happened naturally within the laws of physics. How it exactly started we do not yet know, but we have ideas. We know the big bang occurred. We aren't sure what caused it.)
 
That highlighted line about how "everything happened within the laws of physics" is a classic. Any reasonably intelligent person can only look at this comment made by this atheist and see that this person has serious mental deficiencies.  How come something supernatural happen naturally within the laws of physics. Then the line "We aren't sure what caused it" This is an admission basically of their own ignorance but they don't see that because their ego is so much in control that it has blinded them to their own stupidity.  


We don't know how it began so who's to say how it began violated the laws of physics if we don't know? It is laughable how incapable you are of understanding this and how you think inserting god as necessary. Just because you can't answer a question, doesn't mean it is magic. We have no mental deficiencies because we understand what we are saying the scope of our claims. Your inability to understand, well, anything, for that matter, is indicative of possible mental deficiencies on your part...but you won't understand any of this anyway.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

FRAUDS


Liars, Cowards, Reprobates and FRAUDS!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

We are not here to prove but to make you aware. Where have I ever said I have proof? Show me? We have shown evidences but oh no it is like good enough for you...lol...this circular logic thing you spew out...lol

Do you want God to come visit you one night before you go to bed and have hot cocoa and oreo cookies and have Him show you a few miracles and then tell you about true past bibical stories from the Old Testament to get that proof you seek?...lol

So what evidence do you have that God doesn't exist?


My evidence that god doesn't exist is that there is no evidence that one does exist.

You don't even understand logical fallacies because your brain can't grasp them.  Quite comical really...
 
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you really think it takes that much time to post on here? most people I know work around computers, and have iphones  

we don't need to disprove "god", you need to prove it

and you talk about what a good christian you are, yet you are on here, and you are wasting your time gambling instead of getting rid of all your worldly possessions and preaching the "word of god"

HYPOCRITE

like most, you don't even believe
We have nothing to prove. God is and that's it. You say he doesn't. Oh well. Goodbye Clowns! Guess what we're not in the proving business. We're in the smacking atheists with solid Truths business and business is booming my friend. Because you guys are the biggest collection of jokes I have seen in a long time.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

We have nothing to prove. God is and that's it. You say he doesn't. Oh well. Goodbye Clowns! Guess what we're not in the proving business. We're in the smacking atheists with solid Truths business and business is booming my friend. Because you guys are the biggest collection of jokes I have seen in a long time.

It's true because I say so!!  I love the logic.  If you can't prove it, you can't call it a truth.

You have yet to provide anything to this discussion.  You just keep telling us god is the truth because he just is.  A wonderful argument indeed.  You also don't know the meaning of the word coward.  You contribute nothing...

 
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Thank you SJD there is nothing to prove to these reprobates. I love it. Yeah that want God to come tuck them in at night and tell them everything will be alright. Then like the scared little cowards they are then and then will they believe. But because God didn't leaven any "proof" or "evidence" of his visit they won't tell their little atheist friends because they would be laughed at. Sound familiar atheist. This is why they discount other atheist who have become theists because they don't believe it's possible. But guess what you worthless Assclowns. More atheist get converted everyday by these miracles. This is why there are so few of you because even the lowest of the low KNOW that there is a God.
 
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Studies comparing religious belief and I.Q

In 2008, intelligence researcher Helmuth Nyborgexamined whether IQ relates to denomination andincome, using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth, which includes intelligence tests on a representative selection of white American youth, where they have also replied to questions about religious belief. His results, published in the scientific journal Intelligencedemonstrated that on average, Atheists scored 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions. [4]

The lower the percentage of people in a country that believe in god, the higher the average IQ is of that country. 

This is comical to me. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

Thank you SJD there is nothing to prove to these reprobates. I love it. Yeah that want God to come tuck them in at night and tell them everything will be alright. Then like the scared little cowards they are then and then will they believe. But because God didn't leaven any "proof" or "evidence" of his visit they won't tell their little atheist friends because they would be laughed at. Sound familiar atheist. This is why they discount other atheist who have become theists because they don't believe it's possible. But guess what you worthless Assclowns. More atheist get converted everyday by these miracles. This is why there are so few of you because even the lowest of the low KNOW that there is a God.

Is this English? lmao 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

Thank you SJD there is nothing to prove to these reprobates. I love it. Yeah that want God to come tuck them in at night and tell them everything will be alright. Then like the scared little cowards they are then and then will they believe. But because God didn't leaven any "proof" or "evidence" of his visit they won't tell their little atheist friends because they would be laughed at. Sound familiar atheist. This is why they discount other atheist who have become theists because they don't believe it's possible. But guess what you worthless Assclowns. More atheist get converted everyday by these miracles. This is why there are so few of you because even the lowest of the low KNOW that there is a God.

What are you talking about?  Atheism is growing...
 
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4000 posts.

No progress made.

Long story short sum up of this thread......Your a dummy! No, you're a dummy!



Average of 6 guys who take hours per day on this.



The thing you guys have taught me even is I will never comment in a thread that WILL NEVER GO AWAY again!

I am sick of seeing this damn thread at the top of my updates at my covers space.


See you dipshits at post 10,000
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


It's true because I say so!!  I love the logic.  If you can't prove it, you can't call it a truth.

You have yet to provide anything to this discussion.  You just keep telling us god is the truth because he just is.  A wonderful argument indeed.  You also don't know the meaning of the word coward.  You contribute nothing...

I would give you odds that you still live with Mommy and Daddy. Probably some Long Island brat. What happened to you? Daddy didn't give you enough in the Trust Fund? Is that why you're so screwed up in the head. Dude you have issues. You're 22 and you're already completely fucked up in the head. You have a good chance of being clinically insane by 30 at the rate you're going. You're so deep into this atheist crap you can't see your head because it's so far up your ass. Wake up!!! Is your life really that bad where you have turned your back on everything real in order to follow some crap that other jaded people have made up in order confuse and deceive you. Maybe your family disowned you and that's you're so messed up in the head.
 
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Question for you atheist: Are any of you pathetic guys married and have children? For the life of me I can't imagine any woman worth a grain of salt spending a life time with such morally and spiritually bankrupt people as this collection of atheist. At least Wiccans  believe in something. You poor souls are just confused coward conning people. Thats your new name like your brothers in the old Communist Soviet Union who officially were atheist we will call you CCCP (Confused Cowards Conning People)
 
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Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

I would give you odds that you still live with Mommy and Daddy. Probably some Long Island brat. What happened to you? Daddy didn't give you enough in the Trust Fund? Is that why you're so screwed up in the head. Dude you have issues. You're 22 and you're already completely fucked up in the head. You have a good chance of being clinically insane by 30 at the rate you're going. You're so deep into this atheist crap you can't see your head because it's so far up your ass. Wake up!!! Is your life really that bad where you have turned your back on everything real in order to follow some crap that other jaded people have made up in order confuse and deceive you. Maybe your family disowned you and that's you're so messed up in the head.


I have a great family.  I love my family, and wouldn't trade it for anything.  Thank you for caring though. 
 
 
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