If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

System,

KittyKat,

KittyKat,

System,

Yes when we are dead and gone some pie in the sky is gonna review our life and being the middle man that he/she is will decide whats up next.

System,

I can't believe people actually believe in this shit lol

It's beyond your understanding yet you are willing to let it guide the only life that you know for sure that you have

Kittykat,

KK has ADMITTED that he believes something can come from nothing, uncaused.

I suppose we are seeing this quote in action

 Instead, their thinking became nonsense, and their senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools.... They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator.... And because they did not think it worthwhile to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is morally wrong

 

When I was in my teens and began to question everything such as God, religion, school, government etc.

The close-mindedness is astounding

Close minded to what? What do you mean?

System,1.5+1+0.8+0.5 = 4.1 billion
World population almost = 6 billion

No, your assumptions was erroneous.

And no, life is not a test. You will be judged for what you do, but that doesn't mean life is a test. Do you think crimes are tests, even though you get judged for them in a court of law? You're religion is an interesting one...

So you don't mean "baby" but you mean "people who have no knowledge". Then say that next time. Unless you are arguing that a baby cannot ever hold a belief, which is plain wrong in and of itself.

Rostos,

System,

(1) is the problem of Evil, and it's a faulty argument that been argued to death within theology (even notable atheists reject the argument). As you may have already noticed, I don't deal with simple premises thrown around like we're in some high school classroom. What you say needs to be stated within a logical argument, in a rational and coherent manner. You must provide your argument and prove it.

(2) I said that people are forgivable. Actions are just actions. They happen, they come and go. God neither forgives nor not-forgives actions. Forgiveness is regarding the people themselves.  And how can one forgive an action? It doesn't make sense. Can you forgive 'flying'? Can you forgive 'eating'? What does that even mean?

But people can be forgiven. For example, Murder will always be sin, and it will always remain that way. But the murderer, while he may have committed an action that is sin, can be forgiven. For each and every individual there is always hope.

However there is that one individual who will not be forgiven -- that is the one who makes the Christian God (who is defined as Goodness, Justice, Mercy, Life, Kindness, Power, Knowledge, etc.) as the Enemy. That individual, who sees something of God, like say, Goodness, and knowingly calls it something that should be attacked or destroyed, is one that will not be forgiven.

You, KittyKatz, have not done that. What you have shown was that you don't understand Christianity very well (which is the fault of many frail-faith, 'stupid', and hide-bound Christians, not your fault at all, bro). You haven't committed that sin, so you don't have to worry about never being forgiven. For one such as you, there is always hope, and always love. Christ died for you so that you may not perish into oblivion. Of course, the enemy will tell you otherwise. Either way, God makes room for your volition, you choose what you want. You are the master of your fate.

If anything, KittyKatz, please forgive any sense of hostility that you feel from my fellow posters -- It's not so much that they are so intent on calling you "fools", rather, it's that they are very much impassioned into defending their worldview.

I'm sure you can understand their frustration. I mean, you can even look at your own posts and see that you do quite the same thing (explicitly attacking the character of your fellow man in argument).

I hope that my posts provide a much more civilized and rational way of discussing things. I am not in this discussion to scream what I 'think' is right at you and curse your view in some pointless argument. I am in this discussion as a serious, and logical man trying to reason with you to a common, and valid solution. I hope that you will continue to reason with me as we reach that conclusion, and not to ignore me, or to devolve in a spat of cursing and ad hominem fallacy, like some of the other posters here have done.