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    If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

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    sparty444
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 8:43 PM ET #2251

    Only one religion can be correct... the rest would be wrong and all before it would be wrong. If Christianity is false... it does mean the others are right either

    Question:

    How were people before the coming of Christ suppose to know their way? Were they just throw aways? God wanted to make sure hell was stocked before the real game began?

    The council of naecae is maybe the post important part of post Jesus Christianity. Do you think every gospel or account made the Bible? You don't think a level of censorship and compromise occured?

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    Only one religion can be correct... the rest would be wrong and all before it would be wrong. If Christianity is false... it does mean the others are right either

    Question:

    How were people before the coming of Christ suppose to know their way? Were they just throw aways? God wanted to make sure hell was stocked before the real game began?

    The council of naecae is maybe the post important part of post Jesus Christianity. Do you think every gospel or account made the Bible? You don't think a level of censorship and compromise occured?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 8:59 PM ET #2252

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Either Christianity is correct and all other religions are false or Christianity is false and other religions are correct but not exclusively.

    There is very good evidence to show that Christianity is true.

    The historicity of Christ is one.


    Oh stop, Christ was just a magician lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Either Christianity is correct and all other religions are false or Christianity is false and other religions are correct but not exclusively.

    There is very good evidence to show that Christianity is true.

    The historicity of Christ is one.


    Oh stop, Christ was just a magician lol
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:11 PM ET #2253

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Rostos gives you guys a logical scientific hypothesis but instead of you dealing directly with that question you simply dismiss because you're afraid of where that will lead you thus this is why I keep calling you guys COWARDS. Because you simply can't handle or don't want to deal with the TRUTH. But instead hide behind your lies and false teachings. You can't outthink God boys. You can keep trying to delude yourselfs with your constant questioning but in the end you still end up being right back where you started. Confused, scared and clueless. 
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    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Rostos gives you guys a logical scientific hypothesis but instead of you dealing directly with that question you simply dismiss because you're afraid of where that will lead you thus this is why I keep calling you guys COWARDS. Because you simply can't handle or don't want to deal with the TRUTH. But instead hide behind your lies and false teachings. You can't outthink God boys. You can keep trying to delude yourselfs with your constant questioning but in the end you still end up being right back where you started. Confused, scared and clueless. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:15 PM ET #2254

    You're right. We shouldn't question things. We should just accept things at face value. That's a good quality for humans to have. Don't try and get smarter. Just accept. Rostos has given a scientific hypothesis and we have acknowledged it and offered a competing one. What is the problem with this? Your inability to realize this shows your lack of intelligence. But it's ok. There are plenty of dumb people in the world so you fit right in. I can certainly handle the truth. ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU STUPID FUCK (sorry for the expletives but otherwise you would just ignore it)

    What is more difficult to "handle?"

    A. When you die you will be in heaven for all eternity.
    B. When you die nothing will happen.

    You call us cowards because you are the one afraid of death and don't know how to cope with it. It's okay. You won't feel anything. I promise. You won't even know you're dead!
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    You're right. We shouldn't question things. We should just accept things at face value. That's a good quality for humans to have. Don't try and get smarter. Just accept. Rostos has given a scientific hypothesis and we have acknowledged it and offered a competing one. What is the problem with this? Your inability to realize this shows your lack of intelligence. But it's ok. There are plenty of dumb people in the world so you fit right in. I can certainly handle the truth. ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU STUPID FUCK (sorry for the expletives but otherwise you would just ignore it)

    What is more difficult to "handle?"

    A. When you die you will be in heaven for all eternity.
    B. When you die nothing will happen.

    You call us cowards because you are the one afraid of death and don't know how to cope with it. It's okay. You won't feel anything. I promise. You won't even know you're dead!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:18 PM ET #2255

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Please stop telling us god exists because you believe it.  There can't be an argument worse than that.  You say you don't need any evidence, fine.  That is just such a stupid way to live.  I don't go and believe in claims that have no merit because I'm not stupid.  I want a god to exist, but I hope it's not the christian god, because he is an asshole.  I can't fathom an all loving and forgiving god sending me to hell for using the logical brain he gave me.  If he would send me to hell for that then good.  Fuck him, I don't wanna be around an asshole like that.  Satan is probably cooler anyway...
    Mikniks you have such a dark heart. What is it that you're so afraid of? Do you have a family? Does your wife know that you have such disdain for God. Will you teach your children this empty belief that you have. Do your parents know that you're a reprobate? It's not to late for you Mikniks. Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Please stop telling us god exists because you believe it.  There can't be an argument worse than that.  You say you don't need any evidence, fine.  That is just such a stupid way to live.  I don't go and believe in claims that have no merit because I'm not stupid.  I want a god to exist, but I hope it's not the christian god, because he is an asshole.  I can't fathom an all loving and forgiving god sending me to hell for using the logical brain he gave me.  If he would send me to hell for that then good.  Fuck him, I don't wanna be around an asshole like that.  Satan is probably cooler anyway...
    Mikniks you have such a dark heart. What is it that you're so afraid of? Do you have a family? Does your wife know that you have such disdain for God. Will you teach your children this empty belief that you have. Do your parents know that you're a reprobate? It's not to late for you Mikniks. Really.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:23 PM ET #2256

    Anyone who cares about their kids would not intentionally instill lies in them. I will leave it at that.
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    Anyone who cares about their kids would not intentionally instill lies in them. I will leave it at that.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:24 PM ET #2257

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You're right. We shouldn't question things. We should just accept things at face value. That's a good quality for humans to have. Don't try and get smarter. Just accept. Rostos has given a scientific hypothesis and we have acknowledged it and offered a competing one. What is the problem with this? Your inability to realize this shows your lack of intelligence. But it's ok. There are plenty of dumb people in the world so you fit right in. I can certainly handle the truth. ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU STUPID FUCK (sorry for the expletives but otherwise you would just ignore it)

    I can tell the conversation is getting to you kittykat. You come me stupid but you sound like some ignorant street punk. So basically when the going gets tough you resort to personal putdowns to make yourself feel better. So tell us what is wrong with your life. If this atheist thing is working so well why are you so angry all the time. You have an angry spirit. Oh I'm sorry you don't believe you have a spirit. You think you're so smart but you have nothing my friend. For what good is it for a man to profit from the whole world and give up his soul in the process. Oh I'm sorry you don't believe you have a soul either. Who is talking scared? You don't fool me kittykat bar. You're nothing but a scared little boy hiding behind words. But unfortunately those words expose you for what you really are. A scared little pathetic boy. Be a man and realize what you have turned your life into. One Big lie! You live a lie kitkat bar you live a lie!

    What is more difficult to "handle?"

    A. When you die you will be in heaven for all eternity.
    B. When you die nothing will happen.

    You call us cowards because you are the one afraid of death and don't know how to cope with it. It's okay. You won't feel anything. I promise. You won't even know you're dead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You're right. We shouldn't question things. We should just accept things at face value. That's a good quality for humans to have. Don't try and get smarter. Just accept. Rostos has given a scientific hypothesis and we have acknowledged it and offered a competing one. What is the problem with this? Your inability to realize this shows your lack of intelligence. But it's ok. There are plenty of dumb people in the world so you fit right in. I can certainly handle the truth. ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU STUPID FUCK (sorry for the expletives but otherwise you would just ignore it)

    I can tell the conversation is getting to you kittykat. You come me stupid but you sound like some ignorant street punk. So basically when the going gets tough you resort to personal putdowns to make yourself feel better. So tell us what is wrong with your life. If this atheist thing is working so well why are you so angry all the time. You have an angry spirit. Oh I'm sorry you don't believe you have a spirit. You think you're so smart but you have nothing my friend. For what good is it for a man to profit from the whole world and give up his soul in the process. Oh I'm sorry you don't believe you have a soul either. Who is talking scared? You don't fool me kittykat bar. You're nothing but a scared little boy hiding behind words. But unfortunately those words expose you for what you really are. A scared little pathetic boy. Be a man and realize what you have turned your life into. One Big lie! You live a lie kitkat bar you live a lie!

    What is more difficult to "handle?"

    A. When you die you will be in heaven for all eternity.
    B. When you die nothing will happen.

    You call us cowards because you are the one afraid of death and don't know how to cope with it. It's okay. You won't feel anything. I promise. You won't even know you're dead!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:26 PM ET #2258

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Rostos gives you guys a logical scientific hypothesis but instead of you dealing directly with that question you simply dismiss because you're afraid of where that will lead you thus this is why I keep calling you guys COWARDS. Because you simply can't handle or don't want to deal with the TRUTH. But instead hide behind your lies and false teachings. You can't outthink God boys. You can keep trying to delude yourselfs with your constant questioning but in the end you still end up being right back where you started. Confused, scared and clueless. 

    Where in the post i quoted was there a scientific explanation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Rostos gives you guys a logical scientific hypothesis but instead of you dealing directly with that question you simply dismiss because you're afraid of where that will lead you thus this is why I keep calling you guys COWARDS. Because you simply can't handle or don't want to deal with the TRUTH. But instead hide behind your lies and false teachings. You can't outthink God boys. You can keep trying to delude yourselfs with your constant questioning but in the end you still end up being right back where you started. Confused, scared and clueless. 

    Where in the post i quoted was there a scientific explanation?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:29 PM ET #2259

    Smoothd - typical COWARD not answering the question
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    Smoothd - typical COWARD not answering the question
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:36 PM ET #2260

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:


    Dealing with your stupidity (as well as others) can be very frustrating
    I believe this is why KK is getting upset
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:


    Dealing with your stupidity (as well as others) can be very frustrating
    I believe this is why KK is getting upset
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:41 PM ET #2261

    Anyone that cares about their kids would give them a spiritual foundation and something for them to hold onto that will give them security and well being for life on this planet. To teach a child that God doesn't exist is setting that child up for a life of eternal searching.
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    Anyone that cares about their kids would give them a spiritual foundation and something for them to hold onto that will give them security and well being for life on this planet. To teach a child that God doesn't exist is setting that child up for a life of eternal searching.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:55 PM ET #2262

    System - isn't it interesting how smoothd refuses to answer my question, yet claims to know all the answers?
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    System - isn't it interesting how smoothd refuses to answer my question, yet claims to know all the answers?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 9:58 PM ET #2263

    What do you smart atheist do when life gets tough and you just need to have introspective. Do you go to your science books in search of evidence and proof to find a way out of your misery. How about during natural disasters. Do you open your books and pray to the science book for proof and evidence. I would love to see your pathetic butts in a situation where your science books couldn't help you. Yeah you would believe in God then I bet. 
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    What do you smart atheist do when life gets tough and you just need to have introspective. Do you go to your science books in search of evidence and proof to find a way out of your misery. How about during natural disasters. Do you open your books and pray to the science book for proof and evidence. I would love to see your pathetic butts in a situation where your science books couldn't help you. Yeah you would believe in God then I bet. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:02 PM ET #2264

    Smoothd still refusing to answer my question. What a coward. Keep making unsubstantiated claims. That'll get you far in life. Rostos and SJD, I promise I will never EVER again call either of you the dumbest person I've spoken to.
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    Smoothd still refusing to answer my question. What a coward. Keep making unsubstantiated claims. That'll get you far in life. Rostos and SJD, I promise I will never EVER again call either of you the dumbest person I've spoken to.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:03 PM ET #2265

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    Anyone who cares about their kids would not intentionally instill lies in them. I will leave it at that.

    we don't think it's lies 

    if you tell you kids this place was all an acident and it turns out you are wrong than you were mistakin but not a liar.

    I do not lie to my kids about santa/easter bunny and stuff

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    Anyone who cares about their kids would not intentionally instill lies in them. I will leave it at that.

    we don't think it's lies 

    if you tell you kids this place was all an acident and it turns out you are wrong than you were mistakin but not a liar.

    I do not lie to my kids about santa/easter bunny and stuff

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:10 PM ET #2266

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    System - isn't it interesting how smoothd refuses to answer my question, yet claims to know all the answers?

    I have read your posts kittykat. You haven't answered a single question posed to you. All you have done is ask more questions or dismiss the question that was asked. So when you start answering serious questions then maybe people will take you seriously. Until then you're simply a joke. Any man that thinks this complex Universe is the result of some accident a Billion years ago is a joke. That my friend is the unadulterated TRUTH!  And no I don't claim to have all the answers whatsoever. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    System - isn't it interesting how smoothd refuses to answer my question, yet claims to know all the answers?

    I have read your posts kittykat. You haven't answered a single question posed to you. All you have done is ask more questions or dismiss the question that was asked. So when you start answering serious questions then maybe people will take you seriously. Until then you're simply a joke. Any man that thinks this complex Universe is the result of some accident a Billion years ago is a joke. That my friend is the unadulterated TRUTH!  And no I don't claim to have all the answers whatsoever. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:15 PM ET #2267

    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Only one religion can be correct... the rest would be wrong and all before it would be wrong. If Christianity is false... it does mean the others are right either

    That is what i was trying to say, however, If Christianity is true, then the others are false.....but if it is false, it doesnt mean any of the others are correct.

    Question:

    How were people before the coming of Christ suppose to know their way? Were they just throw aways? God wanted to make sure hell was stocked before the real game began?

    They followed the law of the Old Testament and there hopes rested on the coming of the messiah (Christ) which was phrophecised in the Old Testament.

    The council of naecae is maybe the post important part of post Jesus Christianity. Do you think every gospel or account made the Bible? You don't think a level of censorship and compromise occured?

    No, i dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Only one religion can be correct... the rest would be wrong and all before it would be wrong. If Christianity is false... it does mean the others are right either

    That is what i was trying to say, however, If Christianity is true, then the others are false.....but if it is false, it doesnt mean any of the others are correct.

    Question:

    How were people before the coming of Christ suppose to know their way? Were they just throw aways? God wanted to make sure hell was stocked before the real game began?

    They followed the law of the Old Testament and there hopes rested on the coming of the messiah (Christ) which was phrophecised in the Old Testament.

    The council of naecae is maybe the post important part of post Jesus Christianity. Do you think every gospel or account made the Bible? You don't think a level of censorship and compromise occured?

    No, i dont.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:16 PM ET #2268

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    What do you smart atheist do when life gets tough and you just need to have introspective. Do you go to your science books in search of evidence and proof to find a way out of your misery. How about during natural disasters. Do you open your books and pray to the science book for proof and evidence. I would love to see your pathetic butts in a situation where your science books couldn't help you. Yeah you would believe in God then I bet. 

    Oh, but you are so wrong, I would just go to the flying spaghetti monster, and everything would be alright again  seriously though, I would talk to friends and family and they would help me through (things that are REAL)

    Like I've said in the past, praying and believing in an afterlife  just helps to make people feel better, but it isn't reality

    smoothd20 example #1 
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    What do you smart atheist do when life gets tough and you just need to have introspective. Do you go to your science books in search of evidence and proof to find a way out of your misery. How about during natural disasters. Do you open your books and pray to the science book for proof and evidence. I would love to see your pathetic butts in a situation where your science books couldn't help you. Yeah you would believe in God then I bet. 

    Oh, but you are so wrong, I would just go to the flying spaghetti monster, and everything would be alright again  seriously though, I would talk to friends and family and they would help me through (things that are REAL)

    Like I've said in the past, praying and believing in an afterlife  just helps to make people feel better, but it isn't reality

    smoothd20 example #1 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:18 PM ET #2269

    Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

    did, we find the bacteria or not, this guy says no, I'm not saying he is right but read it and post your links

    anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

    did, we find the bacteria or not, this guy says no, I'm not saying he is right but read it and post your links

    anyone?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:23 PM ET #2270

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:


    I have read your posts kittykat. You haven't answered a single question posed to you. All you have done is ask more questions or dismiss the question that was asked. So when you start answering serious questions then maybe people will take you seriously. Until then you're simply a joke. Any man that thinks this complex Universe is the result of some accident a Billion years ago is a joke. That my friend is the unadulterated TRUTH!  And no I don't claim to have all the answers whatsoever. 

    You are aware that claiming things as TRUTH doesn't make them true lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:


    I have read your posts kittykat. You haven't answered a single question posed to you. All you have done is ask more questions or dismiss the question that was asked. So when you start answering serious questions then maybe people will take you seriously. Until then you're simply a joke. Any man that thinks this complex Universe is the result of some accident a Billion years ago is a joke. That my friend is the unadulterated TRUTH!  And no I don't claim to have all the answers whatsoever. 

    You are aware that claiming things as TRUTH doesn't make them true lmao
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:31 PM ET #2271

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    You are aware that claiming things as TRUTH doesn't make them true lmao

    Dude your only hope is years of therapy. Hopefully from a scientist with a nice rack and a nice butt. That will set you straight for sure. She will have you believing for real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    You are aware that claiming things as TRUTH doesn't make them true lmao

    Dude your only hope is years of therapy. Hopefully from a scientist with a nice rack and a nice butt. That will set you straight for sure. She will have you believing for real.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:32 PM ET #2272

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You're right. We shouldn't question things. We should just accept things at face value. That's a good quality for humans to have. Don't try and get smarter. Just accept. Rostos has given a scientific hypothesis and we have acknowledged it and offered a competing one. What is the problem with this? Your inability to realize this shows your lack of intelligence. But it's ok. There are plenty of dumb people in the world so you fit right in. I can certainly handle the truth. ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU STUPID FUCK (sorry for the expletives but otherwise you would just ignore it)

    What is more difficult to "handle?"

    A. When you die you will be in heaven for all eternity.
    B. When you die nothing will happen.

    You call us cowards because you are the one afraid of death and don't know how to cope with it. It's okay. You won't feel anything. I promise. You won't even know you're dead!

    And what is that competing hypothesis that you have offered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You're right. We shouldn't question things. We should just accept things at face value. That's a good quality for humans to have. Don't try and get smarter. Just accept. Rostos has given a scientific hypothesis and we have acknowledged it and offered a competing one. What is the problem with this? Your inability to realize this shows your lack of intelligence. But it's ok. There are plenty of dumb people in the world so you fit right in. I can certainly handle the truth. ANSWER THIS QUESTION YOU STUPID FUCK (sorry for the expletives but otherwise you would just ignore it)

    What is more difficult to "handle?"

    A. When you die you will be in heaven for all eternity.
    B. When you die nothing will happen.

    You call us cowards because you are the one afraid of death and don't know how to cope with it. It's okay. You won't feel anything. I promise. You won't even know you're dead!

    And what is that competing hypothesis that you have offered?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:34 PM ET #2273

    The multiverse theory
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    The multiverse theory
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    The multiverse theory

    There is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsovever about a multi verse.....

    The scientific theory that the universe began to exist is far far stronger than the multiverse theory, not even close....

    In any regards, a multi verse theory does not render an absolute beginning to be false.

    The only implications a multi verse has is on the fine tuning argument.......

    Just like ALL atheists, you cant ignore my hypothesis and jump to a new one without attempting to break it down....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    The multiverse theory

    There is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsovever about a multi verse.....

    The scientific theory that the universe began to exist is far far stronger than the multiverse theory, not even close....

    In any regards, a multi verse theory does not render an absolute beginning to be false.

    The only implications a multi verse has is on the fine tuning argument.......

    Just like ALL atheists, you cant ignore my hypothesis and jump to a new one without attempting to break it down....

     

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 10:45 PM ET #2275

    Well, since Rostos is off making amazing scientific discoveries using his imagination and not backing it up with tangible research that states how his 2nd law of thermodynamics and the idea that the universe is not eternal is proving god's existence, why don't we all discuss how

    A) the story of Jesus was plagiarized

    https://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm (scroll down to the chart)

    B) the Bible was edited and prospective books were removed

    https://gbgm-umc.org/umw/bible/outside.stm

    And now for all the cultists (Rostos, Smoothd, SJD, even Boberts) to glaze over this and move on to making the same illogical and unsubstantial claims


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    Well, since Rostos is off making amazing scientific discoveries using his imagination and not backing it up with tangible research that states how his 2nd law of thermodynamics and the idea that the universe is not eternal is proving god's existence, why don't we all discuss how

    A) the story of Jesus was plagiarized

    https://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm (scroll down to the chart)

    B) the Bible was edited and prospective books were removed

    https://gbgm-umc.org/umw/bible/outside.stm

    And now for all the cultists (Rostos, Smoothd, SJD, even Boberts) to glaze over this and move on to making the same illogical and unsubstantial claims


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