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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 11:05 AM ET #3801

    The odds that the US doesn’t know where this came from is … 

    0%. 

     

    Why don’t we (the public) know? 

    I know why we don’t know, do you? 

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    The odds that the US doesn’t know where this came from is … 

    0%. 

     

    Why don’t we (the public) know? 

    I know why we don’t know, do you? 

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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 11:11 AM ET #3802

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox

     Quoting your source. You love to cherry pick as usual & when called out you revert back to your whiney Trump playbook.

     

    yep     that is also what i have witnessed the past 20 months

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox

     Quoting your source. You love to cherry pick as usual & when called out you revert back to your whiney Trump playbook.

     

    yep     that is also what i have witnessed the past 20 months

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 11:47 AM ET #3803

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg  The covid reporting from Day1 has been horrendous & there isn't a mechanism/process to change it.

    Oh there is a mechanism/process, it called C-O-O-R-D-I-N-A-T-I-O-N. 

    The problem with that is a thing called FOIA. 

    No way to CONTROL what gets out. an_lightData might make you look bad! HAVE TO CONTROL AND MANIPULATE if needed. Can make statements that cannot be checked;

    "You are 21 times more likely to be hospitalized if unvaccinated!!"   

    Note: 1/3 of Minnesota deaths last six months are the vaccinated, 56% of that state was vaccinated over that time period. So if there are 21 unvaxed in the hospital for every one vaxed yet 1/3 of the deaths are vaxed. Conculsion; Damn, don't go to hospital if your vaxed!!!!! Of course the "21times" needs to be seriously questioned here.

    So, FROM DAY 1 count EVERY death WITH covid as A covid death...........Oh Shit, Omicron is flowing through the vaccinated, CHANGE THAT, starting now recognize those in the hospital and/or dying who HAVE covid but didn't really die of covid. 

    There, that looks better. And shutup and stop your whiny Trump talk!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg  The covid reporting from Day1 has been horrendous & there isn't a mechanism/process to change it.

    Oh there is a mechanism/process, it called C-O-O-R-D-I-N-A-T-I-O-N. 

    The problem with that is a thing called FOIA. 

    No way to CONTROL what gets out. an_lightData might make you look bad! HAVE TO CONTROL AND MANIPULATE if needed. Can make statements that cannot be checked;

    "You are 21 times more likely to be hospitalized if unvaccinated!!"   

    Note: 1/3 of Minnesota deaths last six months are the vaccinated, 56% of that state was vaccinated over that time period. So if there are 21 unvaxed in the hospital for every one vaxed yet 1/3 of the deaths are vaxed. Conculsion; Damn, don't go to hospital if your vaxed!!!!! Of course the "21times" needs to be seriously questioned here.

    So, FROM DAY 1 count EVERY death WITH covid as A covid death...........Oh Shit, Omicron is flowing through the vaccinated, CHANGE THAT, starting now recognize those in the hospital and/or dying who HAVE covid but didn't really die of covid. 

    There, that looks better. And shutup and stop your whiny Trump talk!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 12:00 PM ET #3804

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: In a recent gallup poll — ‘what are the chances that someone who gets covid ends up in the hospital?’ 41% of Democrats thought it was over 50% Why are Democrats so misinformed on this issue? Are their news sources lying to them?

     

     

    In 2020, there is less known about the pandemic.  People are influenced by their news sources.  Democrats over estimate risk of hospitalization for unvaccinated people.  But republicans under estimate risk of covid and over estimate risk of vaccines.

    It shouldn't be politically divided, but unfortunately over the past 5 years, that is what it has come to.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: In a recent gallup poll — ‘what are the chances that someone who gets covid ends up in the hospital?’ 41% of Democrats thought it was over 50% Why are Democrats so misinformed on this issue? Are their news sources lying to them?

     

     

    In 2020, there is less known about the pandemic.  People are influenced by their news sources.  Democrats over estimate risk of hospitalization for unvaccinated people.  But republicans under estimate risk of covid and over estimate risk of vaccines.

    It shouldn't be politically divided, but unfortunately over the past 5 years, that is what it has come to.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 8:35 PM ET #3805

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdEye4747:

    The CDC director was on tv saying  over 75% of covid deaths were from people with 4 or more comorbidities.

    4 or more? That’s people with some serious health issues. So why are they telling all these healthy people to get the jab again?

    This is lunacy  an_roll_laugh

     

    FACT CHECK:

    This is both false and misleading when the full interview/statement is included with context. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdEye4747:

    The CDC director was on tv saying  over 75% of covid deaths were from people with 4 or more comorbidities.

    4 or more? That’s people with some serious health issues. So why are they telling all these healthy people to get the jab again?

    This is lunacy  an_roll_laugh

     

    FACT CHECK:

    This is both false and misleading when the full interview/statement is included with context. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 9:37 PM ET #3806

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     I see the full interview, going to watch now 

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     I see the full interview, going to watch now 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 9:51 PM ET #3807

    @fubah2

     Thanks for the update. Guess it was a study of 1.2 million vacks people. I dont watch the news and just saw the clip on ig. I was wondering why she would have said that even if it was true. Now it makes sense 

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     Thanks for the update. Guess it was a study of 1.2 million vacks people. I dont watch the news and just saw the clip on ig. I was wondering why she would have said that even if it was true. Now it makes sense 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 10:38 PM ET #3808

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "You are 21 times more likely to be hospitalized if unvaccinated!!"  So if there are 21 unvaxed in the hospital for every one vaxed yet 1/3 of the deaths are vaxed. 

    Public health experts use proper analysis to avoid statistical errors.  Recently, Politifact rates true Center for disease control claim that the unvaccinated is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated.  This is confirmed by data showing unvaccinated hospitalization at rate of 67 per 100,000.  By comparison, hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated is 4 per 100,000.  Evidences that the unvaccinated is far more likely to be hospitalized have been found in UK, Canada and other countries too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "You are 21 times more likely to be hospitalized if unvaccinated!!"  So if there are 21 unvaxed in the hospital for every one vaxed yet 1/3 of the deaths are vaxed. 

    Public health experts use proper analysis to avoid statistical errors.  Recently, Politifact rates true Center for disease control claim that the unvaccinated is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated.  This is confirmed by data showing unvaccinated hospitalization at rate of 67 per 100,000.  By comparison, hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated is 4 per 100,000.  Evidences that the unvaccinated is far more likely to be hospitalized have been found in UK, Canada and other countries too.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 10:18 AM ET #3809

    In senate, republican Romney defends doctor Fauci and labels Rand Paul's attacks as political.  Apparent motives for Paul's attacks appear to be to score political points and to raise campaign donations.  Sad that a national hero and family face unjustified death threats because people are lying about him.  For decades, Fauci has saved countless lives worldwide.  He has served several presidents and is probably the most honored doctor in US history.

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    In senate, republican Romney defends doctor Fauci and labels Rand Paul's attacks as political.  Apparent motives for Paul's attacks appear to be to score political points and to raise campaign donations.  Sad that a national hero and family face unjustified death threats because people are lying about him.  For decades, Fauci has saved countless lives worldwide.  He has served several presidents and is probably the most honored doctor in US history.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 10:33 AM ET #3810

    No single person is more responsible for the Covid outbreak than Fauci  

    Fauci knew the Wuhan institute of virology had shit tier safety in place yet NIH kept granting exemptions to fund gain-of-function research there… all directly approved by Fauci 

    China knows the true origin of the virus as does Fauci and the US but nobody wants to own it because both China, Fauci and US are liable 

    How about the Senate and the FBI investigate that instead of alt-right Viking man what a bunch of fucking frauds in the US government  

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    No single person is more responsible for the Covid outbreak than Fauci  

    Fauci knew the Wuhan institute of virology had shit tier safety in place yet NIH kept granting exemptions to fund gain-of-function research there… all directly approved by Fauci 

    China knows the true origin of the virus as does Fauci and the US but nobody wants to own it because both China, Fauci and US are liable 

    How about the Senate and the FBI investigate that instead of alt-right Viking man what a bunch of fucking frauds in the US government  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 10:51 AM ET #3811

    Score political points and raise donations? That was the basis for 99% of the attacks from Democrats on Trump 

    Who cares what Fauci, his $450,000 salary and his family want? You idiots think Fauci is above being questioned? 

    You brain dead muppets just parrot whatever the morons in the media tell you. As soon as the media puts out a narrative youre parroting it in here as if you’re in the know. What a bunch of fucking idiots that lack the ability of critical thinking holy fucking shitballs are you people dumb. 

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    Score political points and raise donations? That was the basis for 99% of the attacks from Democrats on Trump 

    Who cares what Fauci, his $450,000 salary and his family want? You idiots think Fauci is above being questioned? 

    You brain dead muppets just parrot whatever the morons in the media tell you. As soon as the media puts out a narrative youre parroting it in here as if you’re in the know. What a bunch of fucking idiots that lack the ability of critical thinking holy fucking shitballs are you people dumb. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 10:54 AM ET #3812

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      Recently, Politifact rates true Center for disease control claim that the unvaccinated is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated.  This is confirmed by data showing unvaccinated hospitalization at rate of 67 per 100,000.  By comparison, hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated is 4 per 100,000.  Evidences that the unvaccinated is far more likely to be hospitalized have been found in UK, Canada and other countries too.

    thx for keeping us update to date with the relevent facts  thumbs_up

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      Recently, Politifact rates true Center for disease control claim that the unvaccinated is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated.  This is confirmed by data showing unvaccinated hospitalization at rate of 67 per 100,000.  By comparison, hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated is 4 per 100,000.  Evidences that the unvaccinated is far more likely to be hospitalized have been found in UK, Canada and other countries too.

    thx for keeping us update to date with the relevent facts  thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 10:58 AM ET #3813

    This is what the Senate should be asking and the FBI should be investigating. 

    DID FAUCI KNOW THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY HAD AWFUL SAFETY CONTROLS IN PLACE AND DID FAUCI CONTINUE TO FUND GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH THERE AS PART OF A FAILED ATTEMPT TO CREATE A SARS VACCINE? 

    The answer is yes Fauci knew and yes Fauci continued to fund after knowing. 

    I would also like to see all of Fauci’s financial records and the financial records of the people close to him. 

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    This is what the Senate should be asking and the FBI should be investigating. 

    DID FAUCI KNOW THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY HAD AWFUL SAFETY CONTROLS IN PLACE AND DID FAUCI CONTINUE TO FUND GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH THERE AS PART OF A FAILED ATTEMPT TO CREATE A SARS VACCINE? 

    The answer is yes Fauci knew and yes Fauci continued to fund after knowing. 

    I would also like to see all of Fauci’s financial records and the financial records of the people close to him. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:03 AM ET #3814

    It’s not public what stocks and bonds Dr. Fauci bought and sold in 2020 or 2021, as he influenced Covid policies. It’s not public what Fauci received – or didn’t receive – in royalties. (There are up to 1,000 current and former NIH scientists receiving royalties.) Each payment could be a potential conflict of interest. Yes, all of this information resides with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), but isn’t “public knowledge,” despite Dr. Fauci’s claims otherwise in his sworn U.S. Senate testimony yesterday.

    Do we have the right to know? 

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    It’s not public what stocks and bonds Dr. Fauci bought and sold in 2020 or 2021, as he influenced Covid policies. It’s not public what Fauci received – or didn’t receive – in royalties. (There are up to 1,000 current and former NIH scientists receiving royalties.) Each payment could be a potential conflict of interest. Yes, all of this information resides with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), but isn’t “public knowledge,” despite Dr. Fauci’s claims otherwise in his sworn U.S. Senate testimony yesterday.

    Do we have the right to know? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:04 AM ET #3815

    I rate Fauci’s claim under sworn testimony that it is all public knowledge four Pinocchio’s 

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    I rate Fauci’s claim under sworn testimony that it is all public knowledge four Pinocchio’s 

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:12 AM ET #3816

    NIH admits it holds approximately 1,200 pages relating to Fauci’s financial information and conflict of interest disclosures.

    There's a memo (to justify paying Fauci more than any of the other 4.3 million federal employees) from 2004 that revealed for the first time that Fauci was paid to prevent the next pandemic.

    A person is paid more than any other federal employee (President, generals, etc) and his job is to prevent the next pandemic … a massive pandemic hits and people think he shouldn’t be questioned? 

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    NIH admits it holds approximately 1,200 pages relating to Fauci’s financial information and conflict of interest disclosures.

    There's a memo (to justify paying Fauci more than any of the other 4.3 million federal employees) from 2004 that revealed for the first time that Fauci was paid to prevent the next pandemic.

    A person is paid more than any other federal employee (President, generals, etc) and his job is to prevent the next pandemic … a massive pandemic hits and people think he shouldn’t be questioned? 

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:32 AM ET #3817

    Fauci partially liquidated his account between early Nov 2019 and late Dec 2019 

    Why did he do that? 

    Does Fauci receive royalties? If so, from whom? Big pharma? Since 2005, NIH was supposed to post a database of all scientists receiving royalties on its website. However, the database doesn’t exist. Why doesn’t it exist? 

    It’s an understatement to say that Fauci’s disclosures are in the public interest. Yet he is constantly being protected by politicians and the government. Why? 

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    Fauci partially liquidated his account between early Nov 2019 and late Dec 2019 

    Why did he do that? 

    Does Fauci receive royalties? If so, from whom? Big pharma? Since 2005, NIH was supposed to post a database of all scientists receiving royalties on its website. However, the database doesn’t exist. Why doesn’t it exist? 

    It’s an understatement to say that Fauci’s disclosures are in the public interest. Yet he is constantly being protected by politicians and the government. Why? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:38 AM ET #3818

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: "You are 21 times more likely to be hospitalized if unvaccinated!!"  So if there are 21 unvaxed in the hospital for every one vaxed yet 1/3 of the deaths are vaxed.  Public health experts use proper analysis to avoid statistical errors.  Recently, Politifact rates true Center for disease control claim that the unvaccinated is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated.  This is confirmed by data showing unvaccinated hospitalization at rate of 67 per 100,000.  By comparison, hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated is 4 per 100,000.  Evidences that the unvaccinated is far more likely to be hospitalized have been found in UK, Canada and other countries too.

    FROM WHEN TO WHEN?  STARTING LAST JANUARY 1 WHEN ALMOST NO ONE VAXED? bigsmile Most likely the case. 

    SHOW THE DATA. How about last 90 days?

    How many FOR covid and how many WITH covid? Only after Omicron rips through the vaccinated do they even consider this fact.

    Why in the hell would anyone believe Politifact?

    Yes, I agree the vaccines help prevent serious illness and deaths. Not at the bullshit levels they keep spewing. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: "You are 21 times more likely to be hospitalized if unvaccinated!!"  So if there are 21 unvaxed in the hospital for every one vaxed yet 1/3 of the deaths are vaxed.  Public health experts use proper analysis to avoid statistical errors.  Recently, Politifact rates true Center for disease control claim that the unvaccinated is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated.  This is confirmed by data showing unvaccinated hospitalization at rate of 67 per 100,000.  By comparison, hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated is 4 per 100,000.  Evidences that the unvaccinated is far more likely to be hospitalized have been found in UK, Canada and other countries too.

    FROM WHEN TO WHEN?  STARTING LAST JANUARY 1 WHEN ALMOST NO ONE VAXED? bigsmile Most likely the case. 

    SHOW THE DATA. How about last 90 days?

    How many FOR covid and how many WITH covid? Only after Omicron rips through the vaccinated do they even consider this fact.

    Why in the hell would anyone believe Politifact?

    Yes, I agree the vaccines help prevent serious illness and deaths. Not at the bullshit levels they keep spewing. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:40 AM ET #3819

    Please show me an example of what you consider an attack from Rand Paul on Fauci 

    The transcripts are available online 

    Copy and paste the “attack” 

    You won’t because you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about 

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    Please show me an example of what you consider an attack from Rand Paul on Fauci 

    The transcripts are available online 

    Copy and paste the “attack” 

    You won’t because you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 11:44 AM ET #3820

    Oregon State University researchers say Hemp acids prevent coronvirus spike protein from attaching to human cells. 

     

    https://www.mlive.com/news/2022/01/cannabis-compounds-may-prevent-covid-19-infection-study-suggests.html

     

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    Oregon State University researchers say Hemp acids prevent coronvirus spike protein from attaching to human cells. 

     

    https://www.mlive.com/news/2022/01/cannabis-compounds-may-prevent-covid-19-infection-study-suggests.html

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 10:26 PM ET #3821

    Tough guy Glenn Beck, who states he is unvaccinated, is whining on the air that he has contracted covid for the 2nd time & it's spread to his lungs.

    Beck is so sick he can't even piss in a cup & drink it to cure himself. 

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    Tough guy Glenn Beck, who states he is unvaccinated, is whining on the air that he has contracted covid for the 2nd time & it's spread to his lungs.

    Beck is so sick he can't even piss in a cup & drink it to cure himself. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Tough guy Glenn Beck, who states he is unvaccinated, is whining on the air that he has contracted covid for the 2nd time & it's spread to his lungs.

    Beck is so sick he can't even piss in a cup & drink it to cure himself. 

    That's a shame.  Because that method is definitely a cure for covid among all trump-worshippers. 

    And we know for a *FACT* that the cure works

    because Q-Anon said so....

    ....and the "Demon Sperm" doctor

    ....and Dr. Malone on the Rogan show

    ...and that convicted felon in Arizona that the Cyber Ninjas hired for the AZ fraudit because he says he can "time travel"  and his "future self" came back and told him it DOES work for all trump-lovers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Tough guy Glenn Beck, who states he is unvaccinated, is whining on the air that he has contracted covid for the 2nd time & it's spread to his lungs.

    Beck is so sick he can't even piss in a cup & drink it to cure himself. 

    That's a shame.  Because that method is definitely a cure for covid among all trump-worshippers. 

    And we know for a *FACT* that the cure works

    because Q-Anon said so....

    ....and the "Demon Sperm" doctor

    ....and Dr. Malone on the Rogan show

    ...and that convicted felon in Arizona that the Cyber Ninjas hired for the AZ fraudit because he says he can "time travel"  and his "future self" came back and told him it DOES work for all trump-lovers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 6:28 AM ET #3823

    Hospitalization by vaccination status in Ontario, Canada 

    Fully vaccinated — 1,884 

    Partially vaccinated — 179 

    Unvaccinated — 698 

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    Hospitalization by vaccination status in Ontario, Canada 

    Fully vaccinated — 1,884 

    Partially vaccinated — 179 

    Unvaccinated — 698 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 6:49 AM ET #3824

    77% of people in Ontario are vaccinated 

    74% of the people hospitalized with Covid in Ontario are vaccinated 

    Thirdperson claims that you’re 17 times more likely to be hospitalized if you’re unvaccinated 

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    77% of people in Ontario are vaccinated 

    74% of the people hospitalized with Covid in Ontario are vaccinated 

    Thirdperson claims that you’re 17 times more likely to be hospitalized if you’re unvaccinated 

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 7:51 AM ET #3825

    Pharmaceutical stocks down after Biden’s vaccine mandate failed 

    NOVAVAX -10.1%,

    MODERNA -4.1%

    PFIZER -1.2%,

    U.S.-LISTED BIONTECH -3.8%

    Fauci’s handlers not happy 

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    Pharmaceutical stocks down after Biden’s vaccine mandate failed 

    NOVAVAX -10.1%,

    MODERNA -4.1%

    PFIZER -1.2%,

    U.S.-LISTED BIONTECH -3.8%

    Fauci’s handlers not happy 

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