Covid-19 Good And Bad

Dr Lucy McBride — Princeton, Harvard Medical, Cambridge University. Trained in internal medicine at John Hopkins. 

“My tripled vax'd, COVID-recovered, PCR-tested, masked son in college w/ a 99% vax rate got to see the inside of the University's dining hall for 1st time in *2 yrs* last week.

Today? It closed again. Student dining is back to *outside* only - or alone. Socializing limited… 

My son has been loathe to speak out, worried abt being shamed for not caring abt other ppl (this kid has a heart of gold - a lover not a fighter) or being labeled anti- x, y, z. But watching his friends suffer from anxiety, depression, substance use issues, he spoke out tonight

My son is an old soul. Wise, empathetic, kind. (Not that I'm biased.) He's had struggles. He has made lemonade out of lemons. He has tolerated the loss of normalcy w grace & maturity. Not a complainer. But enough is enough. How safe is safe? When have I done enough, mom?

He just got an email from the college. They admit no one is that sick, the campus is fully vax'd/boosted, yet tonight they needed to add restrictions because of...safety.

My heart aches. Not just for him but for all of the college kids who don't have a mom to talk to.

and who don't have the resources or support to ask for help. He is resilient. Most kids are. But not indefinitely.

Someone, please, make this make sense. The kids are not alright. The risk of hospitalization from COVID in a teen is one in 1 MILLION.

Health is about more than the absence of COVID-19.

Getting back to normal won't be a quick fix for two years of life interrupted for young ppl, but it's a start. And that's when the *real* work begins.“ 

Democrats overplayed their hand again. 

Red wave incoming … followed by a DeSantis presidency. 

Bet. 

How many times can I say it? Liberalism is a mental disorder! Prove me wrong.

Over the next 2 years we’ll learn how devastating the lockdowns and mandates were on children. 

And we’ll have 2 options … DeSantis … or some Democrat that continuously pushed for lockdowns and mandates. 

DeSantis covered all of this early on in the pandemic and stuck to his beliefs when the entire country was coming after him. 

He was right. Democrats were wrong. 

God forbid if people had accurate info. The link is from Public Health Scotland. I promise you this will not stop the die off. When are insurance companies going to come to the forefront on the 'death by vaccination' issue?

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Public health Scotland isn't releasing information about vaccine adverse effects because of misuse by anti-vaxxers to discourage people from getting vaccinated.  US VAERS has the same problem as other countries.  No evidence supports conspiracy theory that vaccines cause increase in deaths identified by insurance company One America according to  Facebook, Reuters, USA today, Associated press and Politifact.   American council of life insurers say insurance isn't denied to people vaccinated.

Public Health Scotland pulled their data because it shows the vaccinated are getting covid MORE per 100,000 vaccinated than the unvaccinated. Iceland data, NOT PULLED YET, shows the same thing. https://www.covid.is/data

Vaccinated children and adults have higher case rates than the unvaccinated.

So now the excuse is they have overcounted the unvaccinated!! Many must have left the country but didn't tell them. 

"The vaccinated are more likely to report an infection." That's funny our own CDC said in August in the Kentucky study; "Second, persons who have been vaccinated are possibly less likely to get tested." 

SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS INCONVENIENT.

The vaccines have outlived their usefulness. The virus has done what viruses do, it adapted, to both masks and the vaccine. Nothing more than an immune booster for the sickly.

Look at the hospitalization rate for those tripled vaxed in Iceland link, going straight up!!! 

Yet Canada's leadership continues to punish the truckers. Unbelievable idiots!!

It has been this way since day one, our CDC and "government health experts" are soooooo slow to react, always a mile behind. Sorta like the DMV, another govt. provided service.

Why do you think Governors Cuomo and Whitmer put covid patients in nursing homes? Because the govt health experts playbook said so!! The last major virus spared the old and attacked the young, so with blinders on, ignoring all the elderly dying in Italy early on, they did it!! That playbook written under the Obama administration. 

From THE SCOTSMAN;

The report published on Wednesday will be the last weekly publication to include the data which includes information on Covid-19 infection rates among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, as well as hospitalisation and death rates, broken down by the number of doses received

Will not be surprised if US states like Minnesota drop all their " vaccinated vs unvaccinated" data gathering and reporting. Sort-of like CNN taking down the onscreen death counter after Biden was elected. 

As larger share of population is vaccinated, it is expected that a larger share of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among vaccinated population.  So if 100% of population is vaccinated, 100% of cases, hospitalizations and deaths should occur in the vaccinated.  Since older people are more likely to be vaccinated than young people, that may explain why a high number of deaths occur among the unvaccinated.  But age adjusted risk of covid death is 32 times higher in unvaccinated people compared to the fully vaccinated according to Office of national statistics.  In Scotland and Iceland, most important is that vaccines work well in reducing severe illness despite high number of infections. 

Really a shame there are so many idiot anti-vaxxers out there, most of whom likely have theSmallPox,  Polio and Diptheria vaccines among others.

Donald trump the twice-impeached ex-president fully endorses the vaccine.

Bottom line; Scotland and Iceland data show shows covid infections now as high or higher in the vaccinated as in the unvaccinated per 100,000 of each group. 

So why do we have Democrat leaders requiring just proof of vaccination to enter an establishment? Makes no scientific sense at all. 

Minnesota data shows 1 in 4 deaths are the vaccinated. For every 217 vaccinated covid infections one will die, for every 177 unvaccinated infections, one will die. And now the vaccinated are getting infected as easily as the unvaccinated.

Yet these stupid passport rules and mandatory vaccination rules remain. Protesters trampled by horses and our government says nothing but RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA!

Found this BBC article from January 25th.

Before I quote the article a few reminders.

#1. Remember before the vaccines came out our CDC said the median age of a covid death was 78.4 years old.

#2. Since May 2nd, 2021, one in four covid deaths in Minnesota were the vaccinated, the youngest was 14. In the state of Washington since mid January, 2021,  one in five covid deaths were the vaccinated. 

The quotes; "A large portion of the dead are older than 65 years old or unvaccinated."

Statistics "SUGGEST", notice they don't claim it as fact! Statistics suggest no such thing.

This kind of misinformation propaganda goes on every day. For the greater good don't ya know. No, it's lying, pure and simple.

USA today rates false the claim that data shows vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than unvaccinated people.   The claim relies on cherry picked data and misrepresentation of studies.  Iceland chief epidemiologist says it isn't possible to make that claim because data has not been adjusted for age, residency and underlying medical conditions.  Public health Scotland says the case rate for the unvaccinated is misleadingly low.  Although some countries report high infections in vaccinated people, that isn't evidence the vaccinated are more likely to be infected.  In countries where vast majority of population is vaccinated, reasonable to expect more vaccinated people to test positive for covid.  The unvaccinated is 3 to 5 times more likely to be infected according to  Center for disease control study based on 25 state health departments.

So how does a news outlet determine who is "actually" getting covid?? Are they the omnipotent one?

Like I said, THEIR data recently began showing the vaccinated having more cases per 100,000 of the vaccinated. Suddenly, ALL ALONG, their data has been flawed. Amazing! 

So you think Iceland has over counted unvaccinated children? Iceland has about 90,000 children total. How many of the unvaccinated children you suppose moved out of the country without them knowing it? Yet vaccinated children testing positive at higher rate than unvaccinated children.

Deny all you want, that is the current trend. 

I saw that same thing on USA TODAY.    Good article. 

State of Mississippi from Jan 12 to Feb 8th;

60.4% of covid deaths the unvaccinated.

39.5% of covid deaths the vaccinated

State was 50% vaccinated at the time.

Conculsion; 4 out of 10 deaths the vaccinated

I am posting this for those who seek the truth. Folks visiting this thread looking for real information, not the three amigo's thumbs up routine.

This article is a great example of how ignorant people believe misinformation; https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dying-covid-still-mainly-unvaccinated-090546286.html

Quotes; 

The vast majority of patients — anywhere from 75% and greater — we're seeing is primarily unvaccinated individuals who are getting COVID and wind up in the hospital severely ill and are currently dying," Dr. Mahdee Sobhanie, an assistant professor of internal medicine and an infectious diseases physician at The Ohio State University, told ABC News.

A small percentage of deaths are among fully vaccinated (and boosted) people who are either older or have preexisting conditions that increase their risk of dying.

Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that during the first week of December — when the omicron variant began taking hold — unvaccinated people were dying at a rate of 9 per 100,000.

By comparison, fully vaccinated people were dying at a rate of 0.4 per 100,000, meaning unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to die of the virus, according to an ABC News analysis. State-level data, from California to Mississippi, shows similar results.

The article backs up these statements with bar graphs. Take a look at the Mississippi bar graph. The unvaccinated are lumped into one group at 60.4% of deaths. Then they cleverly breakdown the vaccinated into three groups making the unvaccinated stand out. Reality is the death rate is 60/40 in a state only 50% vaccinated. 

If your ignorant or skim like most folks you digest the misinformation with truth right there in front of you.

Tomorrow Minnesota updates their Breakthrough Covid Cases page, let us see what the ratio will be for the updated week. 

Again, I am not anti-vaccine, it has saved thousands of lives I'm sure. If you have any comorbidity you should get it, IMO. 

Received an email this morning that my 4 free government issued Covid test kits will arrive this Friday February 25th.

I ordered them online on January 18th which was 5 weeks ago. I also ordered a set for my 80 year old pony playing neighbor & she got hers 2 weeks ago. She lives on the same block as us.

Go figure, huh.

Makes logical sense.  Thank you, Thirdperson 

@UNIMAN

You're pro vaccine but don't encourage people to take it.

You obviously didn't read my post.

Seems like there is a real problem with our world today. A mentality that your either WITH US WITHOUT QUESTION  or AGAINST US ON ALL FRONTS. 

TOO BAD.

law of averages r  hard to deny