[Quote: Originally Posted by thirdperson]To fix immigration system, American immigration council recommends long term investing in asylum processing and increasing legal immigration pathways. Aggressive deterrence policies by past administrations have failed to reduce the number of people seeking asylum.[/Quote]
ASYLUM; the protection granted by a nation to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee.
And how many of these border crossers are "political refugees"?
Who do you think your fooling?
And we are not united because the Left choose that path. One bullshit attack after another. Two can play that game and here we are.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by thirdperson]To fix immigration system, American immigration council recommends long term investing in asylum processing and increasing legal immigration pathways. Aggressive deterrence policies by past administrations have failed to reduce the number of people seeking asylum.[/Quote]
ASYLUM; the protection granted by a nation to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee.
And how many of these border crossers are "political refugees"?
Who do you think your fooling?
And we are not united because the Left choose that path. One bullshit attack after another. Two can play that game and here we are.
Might help if the other side gave a crap about it. Mexico does nothing to be involved with their border, they just let all the responsibility be on the US and the US taxpayer. I find it comical that the right side is pounding the table on this but when their leadership is in control the issue did not and does not get resolved. There is no answer which has financial reality to fix the border issue, we cant pour endless funds into something and expect the problem to go away when the other side of the border does not care and the incentive of the person/people desiring to cross is greater than ANY wall could be, let alone one that has the proper monitoring...its impossible and for sure not about Biden or the DEMS. Do we as a country want to REALLY commit to stopping the problem? Are we ready to fund it and keep it up or is it going to be a patriotic bottle rocket and then we shuffle off to the next partisan complaint?
Wall, what a bunch of crap.. you should know better that when you tell Mexico that they won't get the carrot if they don't stop the influx of Central Americans coming from their southern border, they will change their behavior... AND THEY DID !!
So, why do you continue w your senseless rhetoric ??? Where were you just a couple of years ago ??
I know you're one of those that suffer from TDS, but we had a handle on the border... so , just stop w your broad brush arguments that fall flat on their face when backed up w facts.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Might help if the other side gave a crap about it. Mexico does nothing to be involved with their border, they just let all the responsibility be on the US and the US taxpayer. I find it comical that the right side is pounding the table on this but when their leadership is in control the issue did not and does not get resolved. There is no answer which has financial reality to fix the border issue, we cant pour endless funds into something and expect the problem to go away when the other side of the border does not care and the incentive of the person/people desiring to cross is greater than ANY wall could be, let alone one that has the proper monitoring...its impossible and for sure not about Biden or the DEMS. Do we as a country want to REALLY commit to stopping the problem? Are we ready to fund it and keep it up or is it going to be a patriotic bottle rocket and then we shuffle off to the next partisan complaint?
Wall, what a bunch of crap.. you should know better that when you tell Mexico that they won't get the carrot if they don't stop the influx of Central Americans coming from their southern border, they will change their behavior... AND THEY DID !!
So, why do you continue w your senseless rhetoric ??? Where were you just a couple of years ago ??
I know you're one of those that suffer from TDS, but we had a handle on the border... so , just stop w your broad brush arguments that fall flat on their face when backed up w facts.
I cannot believe the idiocy from the left.. like protecting our southern border is just too tough and would involve too much money. ( I'm talking to you WALL)
Well, let me tell you lefties..... the # 1 priority of the federal government is to protect its citizens.. and we do that by having the best military in the world, AND BY PROTECTING OUR BORDERS.
That is all. You do what is necessary to achieve those goals....
But no, lefties have a a different ambition to bring as many future Democrat voters to this country... that is their ambition anyway....
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I cannot believe the idiocy from the left.. like protecting our southern border is just too tough and would involve too much money. ( I'm talking to you WALL)
Well, let me tell you lefties..... the # 1 priority of the federal government is to protect its citizens.. and we do that by having the best military in the world, AND BY PROTECTING OUR BORDERS.
That is all. You do what is necessary to achieve those goals....
But no, lefties have a a different ambition to bring as many future Democrat voters to this country... that is their ambition anyway....
@DoYouMind69 So stating reality is cheering the demise of the republic huh? Interesting. This forum and most of the country are focused on which party is to blame for all the woes of society and how they can elevate their POV and thus be right, or that the other side is wrong, corrupt, fake, controlled etc. The demise of the republic starts with how our leaders poison the public and how corps take the middle and lower class to the poorhouse. If you follow ALL of my messages, they are all the same. If we want to build the republic it wont be from extremist political idiots, the republic rises when the PUBLIC is united, we are not united and we are not considering what is best for society and our neighbor, we are too busy putting massive Trump flags on our car and trying to offend our neighbor. Get it straight...
Let's start working on solutions instead of pointing fingers on who's to blame ??
I think this is what differentiates DEMS from REPUBLICANS. The left is always looking for a scapegoat, when they should be focusing their attention on fixing the problem.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@DoYouMind69 So stating reality is cheering the demise of the republic huh? Interesting. This forum and most of the country are focused on which party is to blame for all the woes of society and how they can elevate their POV and thus be right, or that the other side is wrong, corrupt, fake, controlled etc. The demise of the republic starts with how our leaders poison the public and how corps take the middle and lower class to the poorhouse. If you follow ALL of my messages, they are all the same. If we want to build the republic it wont be from extremist political idiots, the republic rises when the PUBLIC is united, we are not united and we are not considering what is best for society and our neighbor, we are too busy putting massive Trump flags on our car and trying to offend our neighbor. Get it straight...
Let's start working on solutions instead of pointing fingers on who's to blame ??
I think this is what differentiates DEMS from REPUBLICANS. The left is always looking for a scapegoat, when they should be focusing their attention on fixing the problem.
You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
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@Rush51
Listen to yourself for a second...
You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
Rush you cannot make a reply like that when you are one of the worst at the offense. Look at the replies you made and the insults you threw out and the partisan throw up that comes from so so many messages you make.
What I am saying is NOT partisan, my partisan remarks are due to the excessive stupidity here and out in the general public that everything is one side vs another and what does that accomplish? You cant just finger point as a narrative and say that if your side were in FULL control that the issue is solved, that is so absurd its like listening to Trump generalize and speak nonsense.
The cost of this endeavor would be TRILLIONS and would never end, the building part is the EASY part, thats the weak bottle rocket I mentioned, its the token rah rah get the GOP elected act tough crap like Arpaio did for so long down here, its treating the public like they are idiots and brainwashed. The reality is the border is not a quick fix even with a wall 3x the size your boy wants to build. The devil is in the monitoring and observation...you are speaking of how many miles that need 24/7 policing and IMMEDIATE response times? Are you going to laughingly throw down the national guard as the monitoring force now??? lol what a joke.
We are not committed to what it takes to make the wall work, but crap you know it is election time when the GOP starts throwing out the border as vote bait.
I would appreciate you not saying I have a disorder, that accomplishes nothing and I wont tolerate it.
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@Rush51
Rush you cannot make a reply like that when you are one of the worst at the offense. Look at the replies you made and the insults you threw out and the partisan throw up that comes from so so many messages you make.
What I am saying is NOT partisan, my partisan remarks are due to the excessive stupidity here and out in the general public that everything is one side vs another and what does that accomplish? You cant just finger point as a narrative and say that if your side were in FULL control that the issue is solved, that is so absurd its like listening to Trump generalize and speak nonsense.
The cost of this endeavor would be TRILLIONS and would never end, the building part is the EASY part, thats the weak bottle rocket I mentioned, its the token rah rah get the GOP elected act tough crap like Arpaio did for so long down here, its treating the public like they are idiots and brainwashed. The reality is the border is not a quick fix even with a wall 3x the size your boy wants to build. The devil is in the monitoring and observation...you are speaking of how many miles that need 24/7 policing and IMMEDIATE response times? Are you going to laughingly throw down the national guard as the monitoring force now??? lol what a joke.
We are not committed to what it takes to make the wall work, but crap you know it is election time when the GOP starts throwing out the border as vote bait.
I would appreciate you not saying I have a disorder, that accomplishes nothing and I wont tolerate it.
The GOP is smuggling dotards across the border to replace us all. That’s why they never passed any definitive legislation to protect our borders when they had multiple majorities in the last 25 years, their endgame is to smuggle in dotards who will undermine our elections and replace us all!
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The GOP is smuggling dotards across the border to replace us all. That’s why they never passed any definitive legislation to protect our borders when they had multiple majorities in the last 25 years, their endgame is to smuggle in dotards who will undermine our elections and replace us all!
Wall, you do not know what the hell you are talking about! You are the biggest partisan on this board. You seem to be an expert on every subject . Why don!tyou come down to this southern border and fix everything. Your hatred of Pres.Trump has you completely brainwashed, along with all of the other lefties on this site.
You have bashed every cons. Person with name calling with your fav. Word DOPE.
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@wallstreetcappers
Wall, you do not know what the hell you are talking about! You are the biggest partisan on this board. You seem to be an expert on every subject . Why don!tyou come down to this southern border and fix everything. Your hatred of Pres.Trump has you completely brainwashed, along with all of the other lefties on this site.
You have bashed every cons. Person with name calling with your fav. Word DOPE.
@Rush51 Listen to yourself for a second... You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
@Midnight1
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@Rush51 Listen to yourself for a second... You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
@Rush51 Listen to yourself for a second... You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
Let's start w the border, shall we ?
Joe and his ban of idiots blame Trump for the mess on the border.... but , its interesting that we had a good handle on the border, opioid deaths actually declined , ... and then you and millions of others thought it would be a better choice to annoint a socialist... so, how has that worked for the country... a disastrous exit from Afghanistan,.... war in Ukraine,.... war in Israel.
Seriously, do you think any of this happens under Trump ???? Maybe you suffer from TDS , too.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@Rush51 Listen to yourself for a second... You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
Let's start w the border, shall we ?
Joe and his ban of idiots blame Trump for the mess on the border.... but , its interesting that we had a good handle on the border, opioid deaths actually declined , ... and then you and millions of others thought it would be a better choice to annoint a socialist... so, how has that worked for the country... a disastrous exit from Afghanistan,.... war in Ukraine,.... war in Israel.
Seriously, do you think any of this happens under Trump ???? Maybe you suffer from TDS , too.
@Rush51 Listen to yourself for a second... You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
What's ironic is that I don't blame DEMS for anything in my statement. but, rather that THEY are the ones who are looking to lay blame...
FIND SOLUTIONS, stop pointing fingers at others !!
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@Rush51 Listen to yourself for a second... You state it's time to stop looking to blame. Yet in the next sentence, you blame the DEMS for not wanting to fix problems by looking for scapegoats. With that type of characterization, who would want to work with you to fix anything?
What's ironic is that I don't blame DEMS for anything in my statement. but, rather that THEY are the ones who are looking to lay blame...
FIND SOLUTIONS, stop pointing fingers at others !!
@Rush51 Rush you cannot make a reply like that when you are one of the worst at the offense. Look at the replies you made and the insults you threw out and the partisan throw up that comes from so so many messages you make. What I am saying is NOT partisan, my partisan remarks are due to the excessive stupidity here and out in the general public that everything is one side vs another and what does that accomplish? You cant just finger point as a narrative and say that if your side were in FULL control that the issue is solved, that is so absurd its like listening to Trump generalize and speak nonsense. The cost of this endeavor would be TRILLIONS and would never end, the building part is the EASY part, thats the weak bottle rocket I mentioned, its the token rah rah get the GOP elected act tough crap like Arpaio did for so long down here, its treating the public like they are idiots and brainwashed. The reality is the border is not a quick fix even with a wall 3x the size your boy wants to build. The devil is in the monitoring and observation...you are speaking of how many miles that need 24/7 policing and IMMEDIATE response times? Are you going to laughingly throw down the national guard as the monitoring force now??? lol what a joke. We are not committed to what it takes to make the wall work, but crap you know it is election time when the GOP starts throwing out the border as vote bait. I would appreciate you not saying I have a disorder, that accomplishes nothing and I wont tolerate it.
My previous post is basically what one would expect to defense one's country..... yet you find in your insane way that it is partisan.
I ask a different question. Do you love this country, or not.. because you do not question our resolve to protect our people via a fine military and protected border.
That is all....
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@Rush51 Rush you cannot make a reply like that when you are one of the worst at the offense. Look at the replies you made and the insults you threw out and the partisan throw up that comes from so so many messages you make. What I am saying is NOT partisan, my partisan remarks are due to the excessive stupidity here and out in the general public that everything is one side vs another and what does that accomplish? You cant just finger point as a narrative and say that if your side were in FULL control that the issue is solved, that is so absurd its like listening to Trump generalize and speak nonsense. The cost of this endeavor would be TRILLIONS and would never end, the building part is the EASY part, thats the weak bottle rocket I mentioned, its the token rah rah get the GOP elected act tough crap like Arpaio did for so long down here, its treating the public like they are idiots and brainwashed. The reality is the border is not a quick fix even with a wall 3x the size your boy wants to build. The devil is in the monitoring and observation...you are speaking of how many miles that need 24/7 policing and IMMEDIATE response times? Are you going to laughingly throw down the national guard as the monitoring force now??? lol what a joke. We are not committed to what it takes to make the wall work, but crap you know it is election time when the GOP starts throwing out the border as vote bait. I would appreciate you not saying I have a disorder, that accomplishes nothing and I wont tolerate it.
My previous post is basically what one would expect to defense one's country..... yet you find in your insane way that it is partisan.
I ask a different question. Do you love this country, or not.. because you do not question our resolve to protect our people via a fine military and protected border.
I live in Arizona big guy so my perspective on the border is probably better than most. Super contribution, you fit right in with the other GOP doobs here, hurl insults and not know what the crap you are debating about.
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@texjake
How cute.
I live in Arizona big guy so my perspective on the border is probably better than most. Super contribution, you fit right in with the other GOP doobs here, hurl insults and not know what the crap you are debating about.
The uncoordinated, disjointed National Guard is not prepared for this type of endeavor, what are you even thinking if this is what you are suggesting? How many miles are we talking here and that is a 24/7 immediate demand need monitoring.
Me saying truth and reality has ZERO to do with my love of the country. I state 100% fact and if that offends you I cant help that. My point keeps being that we are not committed to this at all to make it work. This is the usual election time rabble rousing to get the GOP to the polls but what you WONT see is the GOP putting pen to paper and stating TRUTH about the reality of this wall and how much it will cost and continue to cost and what that means either via taxes or reduced social programs, military programs, roads, grid, whatever that we will be spending EVERY single year without any reprieve and costs will only go up up up.
That is stating fact big guy, nothing partisan or unpatriotic about financial fact and truth.
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@Rush51
The uncoordinated, disjointed National Guard is not prepared for this type of endeavor, what are you even thinking if this is what you are suggesting? How many miles are we talking here and that is a 24/7 immediate demand need monitoring.
Me saying truth and reality has ZERO to do with my love of the country. I state 100% fact and if that offends you I cant help that. My point keeps being that we are not committed to this at all to make it work. This is the usual election time rabble rousing to get the GOP to the polls but what you WONT see is the GOP putting pen to paper and stating TRUTH about the reality of this wall and how much it will cost and continue to cost and what that means either via taxes or reduced social programs, military programs, roads, grid, whatever that we will be spending EVERY single year without any reprieve and costs will only go up up up.
That is stating fact big guy, nothing partisan or unpatriotic about financial fact and truth.
@wallstreetcappers Wall, you do not know what the hell you are talking about! You are the biggest partisan on this board. You seem to be an expert on every subject . Why don!tyou come down to this southern border and fix everything. Your hatred of Pres.Trump has you completely brainwashed, along with all of the other lefties on this site. You have bashed every cons. Person with name calling with your fav. Word DOPE.
strange
this obvious alias "texjake" just spontaneously appears out of nowhere
on a sports gambling site that he hasnt posted to in 15 years !
comes directly to the politics forum
and very specifically heads straight to a thread where a back&forth is going on between our respected moderator wsc and maga trump supporter fush51 which wally is winning hands down
and this texjake guy rudely bashes wsc in support of rush51
no other posts in 15 years !!!!!!!!!!
if it looks like a duck, walks & flies like a duck and quacks like a duck
nope nothing suspicious here
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by texjake:
@wallstreetcappers Wall, you do not know what the hell you are talking about! You are the biggest partisan on this board. You seem to be an expert on every subject . Why don!tyou come down to this southern border and fix everything. Your hatred of Pres.Trump has you completely brainwashed, along with all of the other lefties on this site. You have bashed every cons. Person with name calling with your fav. Word DOPE.
strange
this obvious alias "texjake" just spontaneously appears out of nowhere
on a sports gambling site that he hasnt posted to in 15 years !
comes directly to the politics forum
and very specifically heads straight to a thread where a back&forth is going on between our respected moderator wsc and maga trump supporter fush51 which wally is winning hands down
and this texjake guy rudely bashes wsc in support of rush51
no other posts in 15 years !!!!!!!!!!
if it looks like a duck, walks & flies like a duck and quacks like a duck
Why not try this instead...debate CONTENT, not more of the same lame dem vs repub yucck, we already have tons of that. If your approach is going to be attack the member and insult I expect you are not going to last too long. I hope you can add discussion, debate, content instead of what you have chosen after your 15 yr return of absence.
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@texjake
Dope is what you have as a means of attack?
Why not try this instead...debate CONTENT, not more of the same lame dem vs repub yucck, we already have tons of that. If your approach is going to be attack the member and insult I expect you are not going to last too long. I hope you can add discussion, debate, content instead of what you have chosen after your 15 yr return of absence.
@wallstreetcappers Wall, you do not know what the hell you are talking about! You are the biggest partisan on this board. You seem to be an expert on every subject . Why don!tyou come down to this southern border and fix everything. Your hatred of Pres.Trump has you completely brainwashed, along with all of the other lefties on this site. You have bashed every cons. Person with name calling with your fav. Word DOPE.
WOW!
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Quote Originally Posted by texjake:
@wallstreetcappers Wall, you do not know what the hell you are talking about! You are the biggest partisan on this board. You seem to be an expert on every subject . Why don!tyou come down to this southern border and fix everything. Your hatred of Pres.Trump has you completely brainwashed, along with all of the other lefties on this site. You have bashed every cons. Person with name calling with your fav. Word DOPE.
@texjake @Rush51 Keep up your good posts @ ignore WSC and Midnite, the trash talking lib.
this obvious alias "texjake" just spontaneously appears out of nowhere
on a sports gambling site that he hasnt posted to in 15 years !
comes directly to the politics forum
and very specifically heads straight to a thread where a back&forth is going on between our respected moderator wsc and maga trump supporter fush51 which wally is winning hands down
and this texjake guy rudely bashes wsc in support of rush51
no other posts in 15 years !!!!!!!!!!
if it looks like a duck, walks & flies like a duck and quacks like a duck
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by texjake:
@texjake @Rush51 Keep up your good posts @ ignore WSC and Midnite, the trash talking lib.
this obvious alias "texjake" just spontaneously appears out of nowhere
on a sports gambling site that he hasnt posted to in 15 years !
comes directly to the politics forum
and very specifically heads straight to a thread where a back&forth is going on between our respected moderator wsc and maga trump supporter fush51 which wally is winning hands down
and this texjake guy rudely bashes wsc in support of rush51
no other posts in 15 years !!!!!!!!!!
if it looks like a duck, walks & flies like a duck and quacks like a duck
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