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    fubah2
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2020 - 10:27 PM ET #151

    Different from post above this one is from,

                      RealClearPolitics polls monitoring site
    https://tinyurl.com/yczb9dbm


    *These figures are 2 week "rolling" averages"
    and subject to modest changes every week.

     

    **Note: Biden needs only to win any 3 of these.
    ...or only 2 states if one of them is Florida.

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN  SIX  of these at least!

     

    +1.3 trump, Georgia

    +0.7 Biden, N.Carolina
    +1.6 Biden, Florida
    +2.0 Biden, OHIO
    +4.2 Biden, Michigan (elected DEM Governor in 2018)
    +4.3 Biden, Pennsylvania (has DEM Governor)
    +4.5 Biden, Arizona
    +6.0 Biden, Wisconsin (elected DEM Governor in 2018)

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN SIX of these at least !

    Reply

    Different from post above this one is from,

                      RealClearPolitics polls monitoring site
    https://tinyurl.com/yczb9dbm


    *These figures are 2 week "rolling" averages"
    and subject to modest changes every week.

     

    **Note: Biden needs only to win any 3 of these.
    ...or only 2 states if one of them is Florida.

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN  SIX  of these at least!

     

    +1.3 trump, Georgia

    +0.7 Biden, N.Carolina
    +1.6 Biden, Florida
    +2.0 Biden, OHIO
    +4.2 Biden, Michigan (elected DEM Governor in 2018)
    +4.3 Biden, Pennsylvania (has DEM Governor)
    +4.5 Biden, Arizona
    +6.0 Biden, Wisconsin (elected DEM Governor in 2018)

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN SIX of these at least !

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2020 - 6:53 PM ET #152

    The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites.
    This is a common occurance to almost every election.
    It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise"
    Nothing surprising or unexpected here.

    +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states.

     

     

    Reply

    The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites.
    This is a common occurance to almost every election.
    It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise"
    Nothing surprising or unexpected here.

    +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 5:47 PM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    September 16:

    The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites.
    This is a common occurance to almost every election.
    It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise"
    Nothing surprising or unexpected here.

    +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states.

    September 18"

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly

    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    September 16:

    The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites.
    This is a common occurance to almost every election.
    It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise"
    Nothing surprising or unexpected here.

    +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states.

    September 18"

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly

    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 5:57 PM ET #154

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: September 16: The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites. This is a common occurance to almost every election.It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise" Nothing surprising or unexpected here. +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states. September 18" Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     

    What are the poll numbers from Gateway Pundit? an_roll_laugh

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: September 16: The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites. This is a common occurance to almost every election.It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise" Nothing surprising or unexpected here. +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states. September 18" Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     

    What are the poll numbers from Gateway Pundit? an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 6:55 PM ET #155

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: September 16: The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites. This is a common occurance to almost every election.It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise" Nothing surprising or unexpected here. +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states. September 18" Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight  

     

    What are the poll numbers from Gateway Pundit?

    Ahh that infamous bastion of "alternative facts" believed by extremist right-wing kool-aid drinkers" :

    apparently they believe trump is winning nationally by +7.2 .. a total landslide!

    FOX News hosts believe trump is leading nationally by only +7.1

    reallyhappy

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: September 16: The National Polling has narrowed Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites. This is a common occurance to almost every election.It may narrow even further pending the anticipated "October Surprise" Nothing surprising or unexpected here. +5.9  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+5.4  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.9  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight National polling is important, but the key is always the swing states. September 18" Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics+6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin+6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight  

     

    What are the poll numbers from Gateway Pundit?

    Ahh that infamous bastion of "alternative facts" believed by extremist right-wing kool-aid drinkers" :

    apparently they believe trump is winning nationally by +7.2 .. a total landslide!

    FOX News hosts believe trump is leading nationally by only +7.1

    reallyhappy

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2020 - 10:26 PM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly

    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    thumbs_up

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly

    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    thumbs_up

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 3:58 AM ET #157

    RealClearPolitics polls monitoring site
    https://tinyurl.com/yczb9dbm


    *These figures are 2 week "rolling" averages"
    and subject to modest changes every week.

     

    **Note: Biden needs only to win any 3 of these,
    ...or only 2 states if one of them is Florida.

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN  SIX  of these at least!


    +1.3 trump, Georgia

    +0.7 Biden, N.Carolina
    +1.6 Biden, Florida
    +2.0 Biden, OHIO
    +4.3 Biden, Michigan (elected DEM Governor in 2018)
    +4.3 Biden, Pennsylvania
    +4.5 Biden, AZ
    +6.2 Biden, Wisconsin (elected DEM Governor in 2018)

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN SIX of these at least !

    Reply

    RealClearPolitics polls monitoring site
    https://tinyurl.com/yczb9dbm


    *These figures are 2 week "rolling" averages"
    and subject to modest changes every week.

     

    **Note: Biden needs only to win any 3 of these,
    ...or only 2 states if one of them is Florida.

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN  SIX  of these at least!


    +1.3 trump, Georgia

    +0.7 Biden, N.Carolina
    +1.6 Biden, Florida
    +2.0 Biden, OHIO
    +4.3 Biden, Michigan (elected DEM Governor in 2018)
    +4.3 Biden, Pennsylvania
    +4.5 Biden, AZ
    +6.2 Biden, Wisconsin (elected DEM Governor in 2018)

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN SIX of these at least !

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 10:25 AM ET #158

    which six of those states will  rump  win ? i see two as likely tho not guaranteed     

    maybe 3      new polls show an increase of support for biden in last 4 listed

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    which six of those states will  rump  win ? i see two as likely tho not guaranteed     

    maybe 3      new polls show an increase of support for biden in last 4 listed

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2020 - 3:38 PM ET #159

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    RealClearPolitics polls monitoring site
    https://tinyurl.com/yczb9dbm


    *These figures are 2 week "rolling" averages"
    and subject to modest changes every week.

     

    **Note: Biden needs only to win any 3 of these,
    ...or only 2 states if one of them is Florida.

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN  SIX  of these at least!


    +1.3 trump, Georgia

    +0.7 Biden, N.Carolina
    +1.6 Biden, Florida
    +2.0 Biden, OHIO
    +4.3 Biden, Michigan (elected DEM Governor in 2018)
    +4.3 Biden, Pennsylvania
    +4.5 Biden, AZ
    +6.2 Biden, Wisconsin (elected DEM Governor in 2018)

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN SIX of these at least !

     

    hard to see rump winning 6 of those

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    RealClearPolitics polls monitoring site
    https://tinyurl.com/yczb9dbm


    *These figures are 2 week "rolling" averages"
    and subject to modest changes every week.

     

    **Note: Biden needs only to win any 3 of these,
    ...or only 2 states if one of them is Florida.

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN  SIX  of these at least!


    +1.3 trump, Georgia

    +0.7 Biden, N.Carolina
    +1.6 Biden, Florida
    +2.0 Biden, OHIO
    +4.3 Biden, Michigan (elected DEM Governor in 2018)
    +4.3 Biden, Pennsylvania
    +4.5 Biden, AZ
    +6.2 Biden, Wisconsin (elected DEM Governor in 2018)

     

    TRUMP MUST WIN SIX of these at least !

     

    hard to see rump winning 6 of those

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 1:38 AM ET #160

    from 270towin polls monitoring site

    (different source from post above)

     

    +1.0 trump, Georgia

    *TIED*, OHIO
    +2.0 Biden, N.Carolina
    +2.0 Biden, Florida
    +5.0 Biden, Pennsylvania
    +6.0 Biden, AZ
    +6.0 Biden, Wisconsin
    +7.0 Biden, Michigan

    adolf must win 6 of these states or Biden wins!

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    from 270towin polls monitoring site

    (different source from post above)

     

    +1.0 trump, Georgia

    *TIED*, OHIO
    +2.0 Biden, N.Carolina
    +2.0 Biden, Florida
    +5.0 Biden, Pennsylvania
    +6.0 Biden, AZ
    +6.0 Biden, Wisconsin
    +7.0 Biden, Michigan

    adolf must win 6 of these states or Biden wins!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 2:03 PM ET #161

     

    September 22, mid-day:

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly ... again

    +6.5 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.2 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.8 ...was +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     

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    September 22, mid-day:

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly ... again

    +6.5 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.2 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.8 ...was +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     

     
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    Such a dumb thread.  Only final week the polls are accurate as that is what they are judged by.  5-10% Trump voters lie to deceive the polls.  Trump I’m a landslide.

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    Such a dumb thread.  Only final week the polls are accurate as that is what they are judged by.  5-10% Trump voters lie to deceive the polls.  Trump I’m a landslide.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 3:41 PM ET #163

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Such a dumb thread.  Only final week the polls are accurate as that is what they are judged by.  5-10% Trump voters lie to deceive the polls.  Trump I’m a landslide.

     

    165yds Trump voters aren't lying ..there just unwilling to admit their support for the president to pollsters..an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Such a dumb thread.  Only final week the polls are accurate as that is what they are judged by.  5-10% Trump voters lie to deceive the polls.  Trump I’m a landslide.

     

    165yds Trump voters aren't lying ..there just unwilling to admit their support for the president to pollsters..an_wink

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 8:07 PM ET #164

    For the nth time - And I'll keep posting this as many time s as the South Kores is next to China post - 222 national post for president in2016 -

    213 OF THEM WERE WRONG. but keep believing cause you got nothin else.

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    For the nth time - And I'll keep posting this as many time s as the South Kores is next to China post - 222 national post for president in2016 -

    213 OF THEM WERE WRONG. but keep believing cause you got nothin else.

     
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    Sorry, 209 OF THEM WERE WRONG

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    Sorry, 209 OF THEM WERE WRONG

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2020 - 1:26 AM ET #166

    Ms. Cindy McCain, the widow of late Sen. John McCain, endorses Joe Biden today. She calls Biden a good and honest man. 

    "There's only one candidate in this race who stands up for our values"--Cindy McCain

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cindy-mccain-endorses-joe-biden-for-president-2020-09-22/

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    Ms. Cindy McCain, the widow of late Sen. John McCain, endorses Joe Biden today. She calls Biden a good and honest man. 

    "There's only one candidate in this race who stands up for our values"--Cindy McCain

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cindy-mccain-endorses-joe-biden-for-president-2020-09-22/

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2020 - 1:53 AM ET #167

    Is that the same Cindy McCain that was looking forward to a position in the Trump administration and didn't get it ?

    If it was I see why she endorse Joe Biden..

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    Is that the same Cindy McCain that was looking forward to a position in the Trump administration and didn't get it ?

    If it was I see why she endorse Joe Biden..

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2020 - 1:59 AM ET #168

    The thing is, Joe Biden expands the tent and gets one more vote from a Republican. 

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    The thing is, Joe Biden expands the tent and gets one more vote from a Republican. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2020 - 7:38 AM ET #169

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    September 22, mid-day:

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly ... again

    +6.5 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.2 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.8 ...was +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    September 23, end of day:

    Biden's lead  increased slightly ... again !

    +6.6 ...was +6.5  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.5 ...was +6.2  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +7.0 ...was +6.8  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    September 22, mid-day:

    Biden's lead at three poll monitoring sites has increased slightly ... again

    +6.5 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.2 ...was +6.0  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +6.8 ...was +6.7  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

    September 23, end of day:

    Biden's lead  increased slightly ... again !

    +6.6 ...was +6.5  Biden/Harris   at RealClearPolitics
    +6.5 ...was +6.2  Biden/Harris   at 270towin
    +7.0 ...was +6.8  Biden/Harris   at FiveThirtyEight

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2020 - 8:15 PM ET #170

    Trump’s Ohio suburb slide
    could signal peril in Michigan,
    Pennsylvania and Wisconsin!

     

    The Associated Press, Sep 21
    COLUMBUS, Ohio – Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio,
    doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for President
    Donald Trump in her suburban Dayton district:

    "It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed," said Lehner,
    who is not seeking reelection in the district of working-class and
    white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago.

    "He is really doing poorly among INDEPENDENTS!"

    Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing
    research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals
    across EVERY suburban region of the state!

    Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House
    without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system,
    and no Democrat has since 1960.

    Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities
    in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several
    mid-size metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives
    tracking races across Ohio say.
    Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y3g56r5a

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    Trump’s Ohio suburb slide
    could signal peril in Michigan,
    Pennsylvania and Wisconsin!

     

    The Associated Press, Sep 21
    COLUMBUS, Ohio – Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio,
    doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for President
    Donald Trump in her suburban Dayton district:

    "It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed," said Lehner,
    who is not seeking reelection in the district of working-class and
    white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago.

    "He is really doing poorly among INDEPENDENTS!"

    Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing
    research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals
    across EVERY suburban region of the state!

    Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House
    without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system,
    and no Democrat has since 1960.

    Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities
    in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several
    mid-size metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives
    tracking races across Ohio say.
    Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y3g56r5a

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump’s Ohio suburb slide could signal peril in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin!   The Associated Press, Sep 21COLUMBUS, Ohio – Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio, doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for PresidentDonald Trump in her suburban Dayton district: "It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed," said Lehner, who is not seeking reelection in the district of working-class and white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago. "He is really doing poorly among INDEPENDENTS!" Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals across EVERY suburban region of the state! Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system, and no Democrat has since 1960. Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several mid-size metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives tracking races across Ohio say.Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y3g56r5a

     

    ok let me get this straight

    that source is citing REPUBLICANS who agree rump is tanking badly in suburbs ??

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump’s Ohio suburb slide could signal peril in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin!   The Associated Press, Sep 21COLUMBUS, Ohio – Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio, doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for PresidentDonald Trump in her suburban Dayton district: "It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed," said Lehner, who is not seeking reelection in the district of working-class and white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago. "He is really doing poorly among INDEPENDENTS!" Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals across EVERY suburban region of the state! Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system, and no Democrat has since 1960. Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several mid-size metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives tracking races across Ohio say.Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y3g56r5a

     

    ok let me get this straight

    that source is citing REPUBLICANS who agree rump is tanking badly in suburbs ??

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2020 - 10:59 PM ET #172

    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

      

    ok let me get this straight that source is citing REPUBLICANS who agree rump is tanking badly in suburbs ??

    Yes.

    REPUBLICAN officials are expressing very real concerns!

    There is debate among state Republican strategists about how many
    new voters there are left to lift Trump in rural and small town Ohio.

    Former Ohio Republican Party Chairman Kevin DeWine, a second-cousin
    to Gov. Mike DeWine, said, "I just don’t see him getting more votes."

    There is less debate in other states. Pennsylvania Republicans say across
    the longtime GOP stronghold of Chester County west of Philadelphia, for
    instance, Trump has slipped as far as he has in Ohio’s suburbs, though in
    more populous towns and in a state he carried by fewer than 45,000 votes.

    Former Pennsylvania Rep. Ryan Costello, a Republican, said that the
    suburban electorate is rapidly diversifying in ways that hurt Trump,
    especially among young families and among those concerned about
    the coronavirus.
    "I think that there is a higher likelihood at this moment in time that
    Trump performs worse in the suburbs," Costello said. "It’s his tone.
    It’s the chaos. Perhaps a combination. But certainly the pandemic,
    the mismanagement of the pandemic."

    "Trump is leading in some areas but no where near by the percentage
    he won them by in 2016," said Madonna, who has conducted polls in
    the state for more than three decades.

    Republicans have similar concerns about suburbs in Michigan

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    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

      

    ok let me get this straight that source is citing REPUBLICANS who agree rump is tanking badly in suburbs ??

    Yes.

    REPUBLICAN officials are expressing very real concerns!

    There is debate among state Republican strategists about how many
    new voters there are left to lift Trump in rural and small town Ohio.

    Former Ohio Republican Party Chairman Kevin DeWine, a second-cousin
    to Gov. Mike DeWine, said, "I just don’t see him getting more votes."

    There is less debate in other states. Pennsylvania Republicans say across
    the longtime GOP stronghold of Chester County west of Philadelphia, for
    instance, Trump has slipped as far as he has in Ohio’s suburbs, though in
    more populous towns and in a state he carried by fewer than 45,000 votes.

    Former Pennsylvania Rep. Ryan Costello, a Republican, said that the
    suburban electorate is rapidly diversifying in ways that hurt Trump,
    especially among young families and among those concerned about
    the coronavirus.
    "I think that there is a higher likelihood at this moment in time that
    Trump performs worse in the suburbs," Costello said. "It’s his tone.
    It’s the chaos. Perhaps a combination. But certainly the pandemic,
    the mismanagement of the pandemic."

    "Trump is leading in some areas but no where near by the percentage
    he won them by in 2016," said Madonna, who has conducted polls in
    the state for more than three decades.

    Republicans have similar concerns about suburbs in Michigan

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2020 - 12:56 AM ET #173

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump’s Ohio suburb slide could signal peril in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin!   The Associated Press, Sep 21COLUMBUS, Ohio – Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio, doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for PresidentDonald Trump in her suburban Dayton district: "It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed," said Lehner, who is not seeking reelection in the district of working-class and white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago. "He is really doing poorly among INDEPENDENTS!" Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals across EVERY suburban region of the state! Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system, and no Democrat has since 1960. Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several mid-size metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives tracking races across Ohio say.Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y3g56r5a

     

    "Republicans should be worried because President Trump
    is currently under-performing in the districts," according to
    GOP website rightwisconsin.com.


    While GOP strategists say Trump can make up the suburban losses
    with new voters, Marquette University’s polling director Charles Franklin
    sees no evidence in research tracking Trump’s support this year
    to suggest new voters are choosing him.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump’s Ohio suburb slide could signal peril in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin!   The Associated Press, Sep 21COLUMBUS, Ohio – Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio, doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for PresidentDonald Trump in her suburban Dayton district: "It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed," said Lehner, who is not seeking reelection in the district of working-class and white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago. "He is really doing poorly among INDEPENDENTS!" Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals across EVERY suburban region of the state! Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system, and no Democrat has since 1960. Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several mid-size metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives tracking races across Ohio say.Source:  https://tinyurl.com/y3g56r5a

     

    "Republicans should be worried because President Trump
    is currently under-performing in the districts," according to
    GOP website rightwisconsin.com.


    While GOP strategists say Trump can make up the suburban losses
    with new voters, Marquette University’s polling director Charles Franklin
    sees no evidence in research tracking Trump’s support this year
    to suggest new voters are choosing him.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2020 - 8:28 PM ET #174

    FOX NEWS poll

    for Swing States, released Sept 24

     +5  Biden OHIO
     +7  Biden Pennsylvania
    +11 Biden Nevada (GOP think they have a shot here)

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    FOX NEWS poll

    for Swing States, released Sept 24

     +5  Biden OHIO
     +7  Biden Pennsylvania
    +11 Biden Nevada (GOP think they have a shot here)

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2020 - 12:37 AM ET #175

    Taking a look at the Senate races to Sept 25:

     

    The good guys are 3 net seats short of a 50/50 split in the Senate
    which they would effectively control with tie votes cast by Kamala Harris.
    Dems likely lose a seat in ruby-red Alabama to popular Tuberville.
    Thus, DEMS must win 4 others.

    Here's how those other key SENATE races are shaping up:

    +8.0 ...no change COLORADO - Gov. Hickenlooper (D) over *Gardner

    +6.0 ...was +5.2 MAINE - Sara Gideon (D) over outdated *Susan Collins

    +5.5 ...was +6.7 ARIZONA - Mark Kelly (D) over loser *Martha McSally

    +4.2 ...was +3.6 N.CAROLINA - Cunningham (D) over *Tillis

    +2.0 ...was *TIED* IOWA - Greenfield (D) vs *Joni Ernst

    - 0.5  S.Carolina - Jaime Harrison (D) vs Lindsey Graham ** NEWLY ADDED an_light
    - 1.6  MONTANA - Governor Bullock (D) vs *Daines
    - 1.0  KANSAS - Bollier (D) vs Marshall (R)

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    Taking a look at the Senate races to Sept 25:

     

    The good guys are 3 net seats short of a 50/50 split in the Senate
    which they would effectively control with tie votes cast by Kamala Harris.
    Dems likely lose a seat in ruby-red Alabama to popular Tuberville.
    Thus, DEMS must win 4 others.

    Here's how those other key SENATE races are shaping up:

    +8.0 ...no change COLORADO - Gov. Hickenlooper (D) over *Gardner

    +6.0 ...was +5.2 MAINE - Sara Gideon (D) over outdated *Susan Collins

    +5.5 ...was +6.7 ARIZONA - Mark Kelly (D) over loser *Martha McSally

    +4.2 ...was +3.6 N.CAROLINA - Cunningham (D) over *Tillis

    +2.0 ...was *TIED* IOWA - Greenfield (D) vs *Joni Ernst

    - 0.5  S.Carolina - Jaime Harrison (D) vs Lindsey Graham ** NEWLY ADDED an_light
    - 1.6  MONTANA - Governor Bullock (D) vs *Daines
    - 1.0  KANSAS - Bollier (D) vs Marshall (R)

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