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oh when the saints...............
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lookingtowin | 54 |
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OH YEAH AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE SAINTS CAN WIN IS AN OBVIOUS YES.
LETS JUST HOPE THEY DO |
lookingtowin | 54 |
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Most of this is meaningless drivel. This is the S.B. not the playoffs, not week 3 in a rainstorm v.s. who fucking cares. It is the only game all year that really matters to them.
The point is this who has the better team TONIGHT! IMHO SAINTS+5 @ BODOG (I KNOW THEY (BODOG) R GAY BUT POINTS R POINTS! ) They are not playing 3 games they are playing ONE. FORGET ABOUT WHO PLAYED WHOM AND WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 62' OR EVEN TWO WEEKS AGO. USELESS INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT PUT MORE ON THIS GAME THAN I DO ON ANY OTHER. MY PICK FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH AND MY LOGIC IF IN FACT I HAVE ANY AFTER MY LATEST TRIP TO THE E.R. (2+ FUCKING WEEKS IN THE HOSPITAL :( ) SAINTS+5 REASON: Indy has a high powered offense that is going up against a defense that gets no respect because the offense scores so much. The saints D will be out to prove that they CAN SHUT DOWN one of the best currently playing the game against Peyton. Caveat: Indy has a better D on paper but I think the offense of the Saints will mitigate that enough to make up for it and the D will show up and confuse Peyton by emulating the other NFL DEF packages that he is known to have trouble with. Does not mean I am right and I am not copping a plea I played Saints+5. I just don't see how what happened back in 1648 has a damn thing to do with what will happen now unless someone was hurt back then and still can't play......lmao B.O.L. TO ALL HOPE YOU ALL HAVE AN ENJOYABLE NIGHT |
lookingtowin | 54 |
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UM INTERESTING IF I AM CORRECT U R 6 FOR 6 SO FAR WITH THOSE PLAYS. LETS SEE IF PHOENIX NOW UP 2-0 CAN HANG ON AND LET YOU RUN THE TABLE.
BOL 6 FOR 6 |
renroh123 | 15 |
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My local uses Bodog lines at times and that is what they had it at
I despise Bodog but the line was good so I got it |
hard8 | 323 |
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MIAMI+5 1Q
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hard8 | 323 |
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Quote Originally Posted by scotty4luck: I agree with you. No chase system can work in the long run. |
3WIZARDOFODDS | 13 |
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When can we get his weekend football plays?
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MontanaMax | 343 |
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Here is another problem no one seems to be accounting for THE
PUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU BET 1700 (3 PT TAX) on the first game and then you bet 3900 (2000+1400 3PT TAX+500 to make a profit) and it losses you are now DOWN 5600 . SO IF THE C GAME PUSHES THEN THE SERIES IS A LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE STILL DOWN $5600 now multiply this by the 7 or 8 pushes a year and you are down either $39200 or 44800. I use 1000 a unit for effect. So if you get $1000 per series and your system has 1 loss and 8 pushes you r in an even worse position because you lose the C-bet money as well which would be an additional series loss of $6600 1700+3400+500(profit bet)+5600+(1000 to make up the last 500 profit bet that lost + 500) for a grand total of 11200 Just for THAT SERIES+39200 or 44800 depending on 7 or 8 pushes. This is a total of 11200+39200 or at worst + 44800=$50400 or $56000 If you make 1000 a bet you have to win 57 series without a push or a loss or YOU LOSE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A PUSH IS A LOSS WHEN YOU ARE CHASING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL IT DOES IS SAVE YOUR ASS FOR THE LAST CHASE BET BUT IT DOES NOT WIN BACK THE A & B BET LOSSES!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SYSTEM IS TRASH UNLESS YOU MITIGATE THIS BY ONLY PLAYING GAMES WITH A HOOK AND EVEN THEN ONCE YOU PLAY HIS SYSTEM YOU WILL GET DIFFERENT LINES FROM EVERYONE ELSE AS THE BOOKS ALL EITHER ARE "WORKING" WITH JM AND THUS MARK YOUR ACCOUNT. THEREBY MAKING YOU PAY ESSENTIALLY 70 JUICE JUST TO GET THE GAME BACK AT THE REAL LINE OR +1 OR THEY LIMIT YOU AND YOU GET KILLED. THE LINES FOR YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE HIGHER ONCE THEY REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. SO YOU ARE PAYING FOR POINTS THAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING BECAUSE YOUR LINE IS DIFFERENT FROM MY LINE. (BECAUSE) I DON'T PLAY THAT SYSTEM SO I GET BETTER LINES THAN YOU. STOP BEING SO DAMN OBVIOUS WITH YOUR SYSTEMS AND TRY HANDICAPPING A LITTLE AND YOU WILL PROFIT. USING A SYSTEM AND THEN PUTTING YOUR MONEY IN AN OFFSHORE ACCOUNT WITH A SPECIAL "JM PROMO CODE" IS JUST FUCKING STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF THEY HAVE A CODE FOR HIS GUYS AND GALS THEN THEY KNOW WHAT HE DOES AND HOW TO BEAT IT. YOU ARE THE SUCKERS. HE IS RICH AND GETTING PAID WHILE THEY LINE FUCK YOU TO MAKE HIS SYSTEM UNPLAYABLE FOR YOU. HE GETS A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR LOSSES AND DEPOSITS. TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS! CAVEAT EMPTOR JM+PROMO CODE+OFFSHORE OR JM+OFFSHORE+V.1/2/OR3= 4U AND 4 JM!!!!!!!!!!! |
3WIZARDOFODDS | 13 |
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Quote Originally Posted by jerblack: jm system is a scam...............is anyone betting big money on these chases, if so stop. As soon as you buy 3 points it puts a redflag up on your account, all the books know this system. Once you start a chase with big money, the book will let it pass a few times, but oneday they'll cap your bet max. halfway through a chase and then you'll be screwed. Here is another problem no one seems to be accounting for THE PUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU BET 1700 (3 PT TAX) on the first game and then you bet 3900 (2000+1400 3PT TAX+500 to make a profit) and it losses you are now DOWN 5600 . SO IF THE C GAME PUSHES THEN THE SERIES IS A LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE STILL DOWN $5600 now multiply this by the 7 or 8 pushes a year and you are down either $39200 or 44800. I use 1000 a unit for effect. So if you get $1000 per series and your system has 1 loss and 8 pushes you r in an even worse position because you lose the C-bet money as well which would be an additional series loss of $6600 1700+3400+500(profit bet)+5600+(1000 to make up the last 500 profit bet that lost + 500) for a grand total of 11200 Just for THAT SERIES+39200 or 44800 depending on 7 or 8 pushes. This is a total of 11200+39200 or at worst + 44800=$50400 or $56000 If you make 1000 a bet you have to win 57 series without a push or a loss or YOU LOSE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A PUSH IS A LOSS WHEN YOU ARE CHASING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL IT DOES IS SAVE YOUR ASS FOR THE LAST CHASE BET BUT IT DOES NOT WIN BACK THE A & B BET LOSSES!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SYSTEM IS TRASH UNLESS YOU MITIGATE THIS BY ONLY PLAYING GAMES WITH A HOOK AND EVEN THEN ONCE YOU PLAY HIS SYSTEM YOU WILL GET DIFFERENT LINES FROM EVERYONE ELSE AS THE BOOKS ALL EITHER ARE "WORKING" WITH JM AND THUS MARK YOUR ACCOUNT. THEREBY MAKING YOU PAY ESSENTIALLY 70 JUICE JUST TO GET THE GAME BACK AT THE REAL LINE OR +1 OR THEY LIMIT YOU AND YOU GET KILLED. THE LINES FOR YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE HIGHER ONCE THEY REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. SO YOU ARE PAYING FOR POINTS THAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING BECAUSE YOUR LINE IS DIFFERENT FROM MY LINE. (BECAUSE) I DON'T PLAY THAT SYSTEM SO I GET BETTER LINES THAN YOU. STOP BEING SO DAMN OBVIOUS WITH YOUR SYSTEMS AND TRY HANDICAPPING A LITTLE AND YOU WILL PROFIT. USING A SYSTEM AND THEN PUTTING YOUR MONEY IN AN OFFSHORE ACCOUNT WITH A SPECIAL "JM PROMO CODE" IS JUST FUCKING STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF THEY HAVE A CODE FOR HIS GUYS AND GALS THEN THEY KNOW WHAT HE DOES AND HOW TO BEAT IT. YOU ARE THE SUCKERS. HE IS RICH AND GETTING PAID WHILE THEY LINE FUCK YOU TO MAKE HIS SYSTEM UNPLAYABLE FOR YOU. HE GETS A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR LOSSES AND DEPOSITS. TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS! CAVEAT EMPTOR JM+PROMO CODE+OFFSHORE OR JM+OFFSHORE+V.1/2/OR3= 4U AND 4 JM!!!!!!!!!!! |
HotShotPicks | 593 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_Willis:
really dont see that line being more than a pick or -1 on a neutral field. |
UKIRONMAN | 26 |
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Question? Why do people dedicate threads to losing picks?
WE ALL LOSE. Seriously who cares? You lost I won. Today I may tank my UNC -2 pick and you will win, but what does this solve? Just because I posted a thread about the Saints and they won does not necessarily imply that my logic is why they won. I could have just been lucky in my perception of things. My point is that unless you use a system that is know to work on a consistent basis, all of this flaming/bashing/TOUTING (It is what it is) is useless! Instead of wasting time bragging and crying maybe we would be better off if people responded with insight at a post instead of just bashing someone because you have a different take on things. @REN. Dude seriously it isn't like you "TOUTED" the pick for money and burned all of your clients. Let it go and move on!!!! By half-time I was already looking at the halftime lines and the NCAABB for the next day. I took Saints -1/ $500 win Saints+3 $100 and Over 28 $100 during the half 1-1. We all lose it is what we learn from it and how we prepare for what comes next that makes or breaks us. ACKNOWLEDGE AND MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOL2ALL |
renroh123 | 103 |
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Quote Originally Posted by 3WIZARDOFODDS:
The problem I have is A: The ONLY team that the Pats have beaten on the road this year is the Tampa Bay Bucs. No I don't want to hear about the Indy game because if Brady had made it you would all think Belichick a genius albeit lucky. The bottom line is when it mattered on the road against a Top Tier team (Indy that is decimated on defense with injuries and Pop Warner Play at times.) the Pats could not get 1 yard, nor could they stop Indy from scoring. That one play exposed the N.E. offense on the road and the subsequent plays exposed the defense. Saints win by 1 yard. GL to all |
3WIZARDOFODDS | 1 |
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The problem I have is A: The ONLY team that the Pats have beaten on the road this year is the Tampa Bay Bucs.
No I don't want to hear about the Indy game because if Brady had made it you would all think Belichick a genius albeit lucky. The bottom line is when it mattered on the road against a Top Tier team (Indy that is decimated on defense with injuries and Pop Warner Play at times.) the Pats could not get 1 yard, nor could they stop Indy from scoring. That one play exposed the N.E. offense on the road and the subsequent plays exposed the defense. Saints win by 1 yard. GL to all |
WiseGuys-R-Us | 19 |
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@ renroh123. You bring up some valid points HOWEVER According to your own numbers the Pats have faced 4 teams with a defensive ranking under 20 and they are 2-3 v.s. them. indy/nyj (2x)/den/bal. Furthermore the only team the Pats have beaten this year on the road is Tampa Bay.
The Saints have beaten everyone they faced and are 5-0 v.s. teams with a defensive ranking of 20 or lower. As this game is a pick or -1 I can't see even by your numbers an advantage for N.E. here. I find your method interesting but I am not sure how you account for the variables. N.O. will be up for this game. If their opponent was a lower tier opponent then maybe it could be a trap. In my humble opinion those numbers mean nothing as they can be read both ways. Again I am not bashing your method I just don't see why it works, as it appears to be all as to how you read the results. GL BUT I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THIS ONE |
renroh123 | 44 |
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CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PLAY!
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andrewt76 | 24 |
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Actually the game is a coin toss and you should leave it alone.
That said I took the 49ers. LMAO But only for 50. I also took K.C ARI AND CHI UPDATE: 49ers 10 Jak 0 2nd Quarter :) gl and ignore the bs |
chungnuoc | 28 |
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I know of a guy that uses a progressive system and he had only one loss in baseball last year and he has not lost in the nfl in 3 years. Same with NBA.
I saw the results with the losses included and the baseball loss was BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!! 27,500 ON THE C GAME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However I can at least respect this guy. As for Morrison. WHO CARES if you you him CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!! If not then can we get to something productive such as does his system or another work, and if so how come there are no posters who will put up all of his plays or explain the WHOLE SYSTEM FILTERS INCLUDED SO WE ALL CAN PUT THIS TO REST. I WAS CONTACTED BY "JOHN" AND THAT'S WHY I AM POSTING BECAUSE I DID NOT BELIEVE HIS CLAIMS. HOWEVER I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO BE WRONG SO.... SORRY FOR THE YELLING DIDN'T NOTICE THE CAPS LOCK. |
bungho | 33 |
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